Camping with Dietz Oil Buring Lanterns
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Thoughts on why I camp with oil burning lanterns and why you should check them out.
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Dietz #90 D-Lite Oil Burning Lantern - amzn.to/3n8fwIF
Dietz #1 Little Wizard Oil Lamp - amzn.to/3pLI7oO
Dietz #80 Blizzard Hurricane Oil Lamp - amzn.to/3rKkzTj
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Once in a while I turn all the lights out in my house, light up my little wizard on a table, then have snacks and beer while staring at the flame. Brings back memories of my childhood when power wasn't reliable back then.
I do the same, such a nice light. I've also been interested in an Aladdin mantle oil lamp for a little more candlepower to read by. Sadly, when I was a kid my folks just used candles. Could of used a few BTUs in an all electric house!
I'm burning a 1941 Dietz #2 Blizzard at this moment.
I have a collection of oil lanterns and I use them daily.
The Feuerhand #276 is absolutely perfect and still in production. I have 3 Feurehand lanterns
Took a moment to look up your #276, nice little lantern. Impressive still made in Germany as well. Do you have the stamp on the upper part of the air tube to the right of the fuel cap on your #2?
@@CroakerOutdoors
Yes, I took a look at the patent numbers and production numbers this morning.
S-1-41
I run un-dyed kerosene in mine. I like the lanterns because they are so quiet and provide a soft light, unlike the Coleman supernova.
I’d use one even if I didn’t need too, specially whilst camping, they just have this simplistic warm quality like sitting around a cozy camp fire
100% agree. While it's simple but not the most convenient, it's for people that value the character of the flame and warm amber light. Even when they are off they look cool too. It's literally a piece of history. Enjoy =)
I like that they are silent unlike coleman gaslamps.
Very true, although I've grown to enjoy the hiss of my Coleman dual fuel!
@@CroakerOutdoors I'll never sell my coleman red lamp! Haha!
I was reading about antiques and art from days past.
The book recommends viewing art and antiques after dark with a flame light source that will be comparable to what our ancestors would have experienced
My grandma gave me her old one yesterday, hoping to restore it and start using it
Congrats and enjoy! Which model?
@@CroakerOutdoors im not sure which one is it because it is quite old . Some of the markings are unrecognizable already due to rust. I'll try to refurbish it and make it useable again
@@CroakerOutdoors So i cleaned it out today and it turns out it wasnt a dietz but a kwang hwa (光华） specifically a 235. Did some googling and found out that it was basically the biggest hurricane lamp dealers in the eastern community just like dietz is in the western community.
Sorry for the confusion if i caused any because i only realized it after i removed the gunk that covered the markings today (she hung it in a small storage hut where she grills meat next to it, so a lot of the grease like components were stuck on the surface. There were also a lot of lizard eggs in the fuel container.)
I'll keep updating here on my progress.
I can attest to the longevity of that oil. I have a bottle that was purchased back in the 90s that's still good, and we also have an oil lamp that was used so infrequently because it was missing a chimney. it hasn't needed to be filled since the mid 1980s and the oil in that is still just fine. I put a new chimney on it last year during a power outage and it worked fine.
Whoa! Appreciate you sharing your experience. That is really great to know.
I ran JP8 in Afghanistan, here in North America I get fondue fuel at the dollar store, and keep 2 gallons around. I also run a 8 wick cooking stove, similar to these.
That's a great tip, will have to see if there's any around here that carry the fuel. Thanks for watching!
The only thing I can add about oil lamps and lanterns is that you have to be very attentive if you have small children or pets around. As minimum can break the glasses
Very true! Thanks for adding to the conversation. Good lantern safety at home extends beyond CO2 buildup but positioning the lantern in a safe area. I have noted that there is very little heat radiating from the sides of the lantern so I use the fireplace mantle as one of my spots. This video was made before our little one was born so we are presently rethinking many objects and placements in our home!
Good day to you!
I am a grandpa rider on HONDA motorcycle from Japan.
Enjoying camping ,touring and upload video.
Your lantern video is so nice!
Awesome!
Full supported !
Have a nice day my friend!
Hello Cubgsan, thank you very much for watching my video and the nice compliments! =) I checked out your channel and really like your motoring and camping videos. I have a Honda CBR 250R, but don't ride often because people here are not used to looking out for motorcycles and I've been driven into by other cars so many times. I camp mainly with my pickup truck that can hold a lot more stuff haha. Stay safe out there friend!
For many years, i use diesel! Cheaper, and no wick problems..
Cool! Do you find it burns as bright as lamp oil? Read that it produces more soot, so I am wondering if that is true too.
@@CroakerOutdoors no real difference seen , but all the soot..how high you turn it up.. Here in the Netherlands..diesel is not much cheaper as lamp oil. Kerosene for Zibro heaters ..almost double the price, and no gain..
Great video! Recently got into lanterns - bought the $25 Little Wizard from amazon. Been burning kerosene in it on the porch and can't really smell (get a whiff now and then) - inside it would be more obvious. Definitely a lot different than a propane lantern - like you said, obviously not as bright but much nicer to sit next too. Makes you feel like an old prospector. LOL
Haha I love your analogy, and congrats on the little wizard! $25 is a really great price. I've always used lamp oil from walmart since I like to like to enjoy the light in my tents and house. Appreciate the comment and view =) 73
They're great for heat alright. Right now is the miserable transition part when it's starting to get cold, but not cold enough that the floor heating's kicked in yet, and my metaloglobus 107 is keeping me warm. They're a lifesaver
Very interesting. Ive not noticed a temp change while inside but I’ll try to collect some data of my own next time. In the woods camping I don’t get a temp change due to the venting in the tent fabric. An insulated house provides a better situation for that. There is a model too that has a little cool cup on top of it that can boil some water albeit slowly so there is some true that they put off some heat.
@@CroakerOutdoors It may have been placebo or maybe it wasn't as cold as I thought then, but it definitely felt warmer at my desk which is where I spend most of my time, the effect on the rest of the room probably wasn't that significant
Lost power this AM still out. Just fired up my No 8, so nice. I might like a little more heat out of a lantern. Recommendations? Dietz of course. Good video btw, like the history.
Appreciate the kind words, thank you. Speaking of heat, Dietz does make the nifty #2000 with a little cooking pot that fits on top to make use of the heat output. Before I had a generator to keep the boiler and well going, we would break out the MrBuddy heater and LPG tank for heat. Especially, when we had an all electric rental house for a year! 🥶
Take out the glass, tilt the holder and twist the wick-regulator to the right, lift it a little and there you see the wicks hanging in the tank.
Brighter than candies, safer too. I use mine every time the power goes out.
“Oil” is short for “coal oil”, aka kerosene. The term lamp oil sounds more romantic than kerosene. So they relabel the K-1 kerosene as “lamp oil” and charge 3 times the price, and sell it in 1-gallon jugs.
Great tip!!! I 've never been around Kerosene before and always heard people complaining about it's smell. It never occurred to me that lantern oil is the same as kerosene, and the smell is no bother at all. Power going out or I light them just for the ambiance haha. You rock, thank you for the great tip! So it looks like I need to redo my calculations.
edit: from some time researching, lamp oil is reported to be refined K-1 taking out more impurities and produces less odor.
your close. lamp oil and kerosene are the same compound. they are both liquid parafin. however lamp oil differs from kerosene in that the lamp oil has been purified even further to get a cleaner burn so it doesnt let out nearly as much soot and carcinogens and all that bad smell stuff. cleaner burn and brighter burn. and doesnt put as much bad stuff into the air your breathing in your room befor ventilation became main stream and as good as it is today
@@baronvonkaiser9912 Apologies, I never got around to say thank you for your reply. I found it very interesting. I really don't mind the smell, in fact it's pleasant and reminds me of being outdoor when I am home. Agreed, definitely want to watch out for the hazardous side of burning oil indoors.
@@CroakerOutdoors but yeah is expensive. ive been trying to add magnesium sulfate to make the flame burn white. ive had some success. copper sulfate also works to make the flame green. its pretty cool to show up with a green flame lantern
@@baronvonkaiser9912 What an awesome idea. Will have to give that a shot next time I have the chance. Appreciate the tip.
I love yer info but the thing that makes me uneasy about the purchase is where you mentioned that the seams leak. I definately dont want that to leak in my pack while I'm hiking to my destination.
I'm new to these lamps so maybe I'm an an idiot for thinking I'm gonna put this in my bag. I just bought a feuerhand baby lantern and am waiting for it to arrive. I really want that black and gold lantern you have and I got it on my Amazon cart lmfao! I'd rather have the light of fire than an LED. Peace brother and thank you for the vid. Imma get that black and gold lamp! Hahahahaha
See my new comment, happy hiking!
@@legod59 where? I dont see it
@@thecreeper6799 Take out the glass, tilt the holder and twist the wick-regulatorto the right, lift it a little and there you see the wicks hanging in the tank.
@@thecreeper6799 Select newest answers/ reactions.
Hope you've been enjoying your lantern! I've noticed the prices of Dietz lanterns have doubled since 2020 wow. Definitely agree on the light from a flame vs LED light. I've since picked up and repaired a vintage Coleman white gas lantern and have been looking at Aladdin mantle lamps for a while. Thanks for watching my vid and good luck collecting haha!
Thank you.
You're welcome!
Great video, thanks for taking the time to post.
Thank you for the kind comment. More camping related videos coming soon! edit: Let me know if there is anything you would want me to cover.
I wish they would give oz/hr and capacity. Faster to compare them and not have to keep notes
Interesting thought! Let me know if I can answer any you may have.
This is exactly what I was looking for. I have a beat up little wizard with the plastic red construction Lens and side clamp. I was thinking of getting the new one and moving the construction parts over, since the old one is unsafe.
How'd the search go? Glad the video was helpful :) I set a price watch app on the models I'm looking for to make sure I get a good deal.
Great video! I wouldn’t call them inexpensive though. I paid a little over $100.00 for two Dietz Jupiter 2500s. Love them! 😘🥰
Thank you! I believe it comes down to which model you purchase. The Little Wizard in the middle I believe I picked up new for approx $25. Those are great lanterns, congrats! The bigger sibling to my D-Lite, the fonts and burn times on those are massive, not to mention they were the biggest model Dietz made. Originally made to regulate the temperate in a green house during cold nights/months. Enjoy your lanterns, thanks for watching =)
Very sad thing, I just knew that Dietz based in Hong Kong is closed down forever 😞
Yes but Fuerhand makes only one small model dietz made many
From my research the administration is still done in Hong Kong, while as of 1988 manufacturing moved to mainland China. Can't be 100% sure now a days but I am happy they are still being produced and are available for sale for people to enjoy.
If you finish oil lamp and in a huracane you can put the cooking oil ???
Great question. This is something I haven’t tried personally since I always keep a gallon or two of oil in reserve. A quick search online reveals it will burn if the wick is soaked but that cooking oil is too thick to continue to climb a vertical wick, may cause faster deterioration of the wick, and will be smoky. In an emergency scenario it can be done but I don’t recommend it otherwise if just the power is out. Hope you are well and are not presently in a hurricane! Thank you for watching -CO
Hi, I’m leaning about lanterns so I can buy one. If I understood correctly, the main difference between the 3 is the lumens right? If you can buy only one which one of the 3 would you buy?
I want it for camping or emergencies in the case the power goes out. Thanks.
Hello and welcome to the world of lanterns! The D-Lite (black) and Blizard (red) each use a 7/8" wick while the Little Wizard (blue) uses a 5/8" wick. The wider the wick the more light the lantern can produce. To my eye the Little Wizard does not produce that much less light than the other two. What a difficult question! For me, the Blizzard edges out the D-Lite by just a small amount. I like the larger 6" high globe and feel the light is allowed to spread out upwards and out than the "Nu-Style" squatter globes. From my experience to help you choose: 1) The D-Lite has the easiest globe (the glass) to clean with the largest diameter openings and was the largest Dietz ever made. 2) A smaller lantern and smaller globe is a bit easier to pack out and keep protected while on a trip. Good luck and let me know which one you choose! -CO
@@CroakerOutdoors thank you for taking the time to respond 🙂
I’ve been watching a few videos today and I came across another brand. By any chance are you familiar with W.T Kirkman lanterns?
it’s expensive than Ditz but it’s American made, and the person that reviewed it said that it’s of a superior quality. Any thoughts on that?
By the way, thank you for making this video. It got me in the right direction. I knew nothing about lanterns 😆
@@marielagiordano8291 My pleasure, thank you for watching my video! Yes, I have been on their website and my father purchased two of their #2 lanterns in black with reflectors. They are clones of Dietz lanterns and as a matter of fact two of their three lanterns state, "Made in China using the original American Dietz Tooling." The American Made WTK #2 is a copy of the Dietz #80 Blizzard but is out of stock until they can bring production online again. It's kinda funny that the WTK website calls their product "premium grade" and Dietz "standard grade". There are maybe two or three small differences, but not enough to justify the premium especially when they are 98% copies. There was no apparent difference in how they burned vs my Blizzard. The biggest difference would be they offer some galvanized models, and so does one Dietz, but this wouldn't be an item I leave outside in when not in use and so far my Dietz are rust free. I did notice that all lanterns have significantly increased in price so I would put a price watch on Amazon for around $42 for a Blizzard.
@@CroakerOutdoors thank you ok so much! Yes, there are out of stock and the price difference is huge. I thought they were 100% American made, so if that was the case I was willing to pay more and wait to get in stock, but if they are not, I’ll definitely buy what’s more budget friendly.
I think I want a lantern that is galvanized, I like how it looks.
Thanks again for taking the time to respond! ❤️
@@marielagiordano8291 No problem at all! Yeah they do look pretty neat. I do like how Dietz offers different colors myself. Best of luck with your shopping =) Comment back sometime if you do pick one up!
Can someone please tell me where I can get a GOOD QUALITY 7/8" flat wick and not a FLATTENED HOLLOW TUBE of garbage?
So as we have horrible electricity costs in sweden right now, which will be worse when winter comes ("they" are currently telling people so keep around 5000 dollars to spare, so you can pay your electrical bill...) It's frikking awful, and it's all thanks to the EU.. I thought I might prep a bit and buy one of these. Do you think one would be able to heat up a small room a little aswell?
Look up kerosene heater
Also paraffin heater
@@FifiHiggs yeah I've been ruling it out bc people keep telling me the "leftover" that gets into the air will make you feel ill, or give you a headache. And it will burn too much oxygen too fast in a small room like ours... My fiance already gets weird as soon as we close the door for 20 min, and he needs air asap. Don't think it will work..
Oh gosh, yes me and the SO once rented an electric baseboard heat house and man was it expensive. We live in the last area of the US which still uses oil heat and I really dislike it, but the energy companies are not expanding natural gas. I would not count on a Dietz lantern for providing any noticeable difference in heating a room. I have noticed a slight change when using it in a tent, but as with burning any type of fuel, you need to be mindful of bringing in fresh air. Some people may be susceptible to fumes/particulates in the air from candles or burning wicks. I have been to houses that use kerosene heaters, if you don't mind the smell, this will produce carbon monoxide so it's also imperative to crack a window for some fresh air. Best investment would be some merino base layers and keep the house somewhat comfortable thereafter. Wishing you the best of luck =)
@@CroakerOutdoors Merino base layers! That's not a bad idea! We just hit our first frost but we still haven't turned on the heat in our house yet, and we rely on candles to heat up the small gaming room we keep ourselves in as soon as we get home (4 small ones at a time). My fiance can't even handle the loss of oxygen by those and he have to open the door after maybe 40min, and let the cold in before it even gets warm. So don't think any stronger "fire" will work for us. I installed new seals on our doors and windows, bought warm sweaters and socks, but I can't believe I haven't thought about merino layers yet 😂 I'll def go get some! Thank you so much for the tip!
We don’t find these lanterns in Europe. There is Qvist Holland that it has but he doesn’t replay at the emails. Do you know something that sell them in China? I wrote to the factory but seems that they are closed. Thank you
Hello, thank you for watching my video. I am not familiar with Dietz sales in Europe. A quick google search turned up a few US based companies that ship internationally.
Search for Feuerhand. I think they are still made in Germany. Hard to believe.
@@jrgmty7685 Thank you, yes there are some other brands out there if you are looking for oil lanterns. Perhaps Feuerhand is easier to find in Europe!
@@CroakerOutdoors the hardest to find are the hot blast models. The exhaust returns to the flame and it's burned twice so it emits less exhaust. They are less bright but are safer indoors.
I finck you can put ți barn fat of an animal pig preferabil or ather animal in the woods If you forgat to bring at you gas lamp in a survivar situation
sub'd today So Jealous of ur fine collection. only got one & value it highly ! so wannna needa ur blue one rite size 4 my FisH Trips @ lake ! TY greaT intel
Haha thanks for the complement, watching my video, and the sub! The prices have gone up quite a bit since 2020 which is a shame but are still available for sale around the web. Definitely will last a long time and nothing beats an actual flame. Enjoy putting some hours out there on the lake with your lantern.
I'm curious about using them for heat in a small van and fitting a flum above like a wood burning stove. I've looked over the internet ut noone so far has done this properly but I think it could be a real possibility. A chimney above it could get rid of the poison monoxide issue,but do you think it could be warm enough. Thoughts?
Interesting idea! When burning fuel of any kind indoors it's recommended to crack a window to allow fresh air to enter. IMO the relatively small amount of heat generated by these lanterns would be negated by any cool/cold air entering into your van. The Dietz range from 900-1100 BTU/hr while the human body ranges from a quarter to third of that in heat output. Theoretically having three people in your van would have the same effect! Regarding any type of camping you need to first look at your clothing and layering system. Body heat retention is key. After that I am a fan of a quality diesel heater for convenience but the ambiance of a small wood burning stove can't be beat when done right. A Mr. Buddy heater is an inexpensive way to heat a small space again with a window cracked. For all of these situations, including my winter hot tent, I bring a CO alarm too. Thanks for watching!
'These 2 use a 7/8" wick [points at black and red] and this one uses a 5/8" wick [points at black and blue] "
What?
There was a weird issue when I combined the audio and video, the video was a little bit slower. It was more pronounced in the later parts of the video. To clarify It was three taps, black red black, for the 7/8” wick and “this” the blue little wizard, was 5/8”. It makes sense if you go by the audio. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@CroakerOutdoors Ah... ok. Thanks!
@@CroakerOutdoorsCould you possibly tell me where I can get a GOOD, QUALITY 7/8" wick and not a FLATTENED HOLLOW TUBE of useless garbage?
Are they still made and available ?
Yes, still being made! If you are in the US, I bought mine from Amazon.com brand new.
@@CroakerOutdoors OK. Thank you. Cheers.
How long does it last when it is full?
Do you recommend lighting it outside your house by a side walk, at night when you leave. So you can have it on when you come home?
The two lanterns on the sides in the video (D-Lite and Blizzard) will last for 26 hours and the middle lantern (Little Wizard) will burn for 45 hours. Walmart sells lamp oil for $7.88/64oz which I calculated these lanterns run at $0.10 per hour.
Where these lanterns excel is as a beacon and lighting up a close up or interior space. At night when I leave my campsite I leave the lantern on and it marks my spot for when I return from the bath house or walk and I can recognize the light because all sites begin to look the same. Especially sites far in from the road, I leave it a little ways in on the gravel drive and it it's stolen it's not that expensive. For lighting an interior room if the power goes out the warm glow emanating and bouncing off the walls is the perfect amount. Having dinner at night at the campsite, this is a really nice light for the table because it does not burn your eyes out like a Coleman white gas lantern and has more character than a LED light not to mention a better color temperature. For your purposes, you totally could leave it by your house as a beacon but you are not going to have the equivalency of an flood light. These tools came from a time before bright electricity and people only knew the light of small fuel burning flames when the sun went down.
@@CroakerOutdoors thank you very much for your explanation. It was very helpful.
@@miketorre16 My pleasure, drop a reply if you ever have any other questions.
@@CroakerOutdoors sure will, thanks
Telling people that when the outerrim of the base gets rusted and may leak oil is not true. These lanterns have an inner container and if not shaken violently there should be no oil touching the outerrim of the base.
I will double check your statement when I get home but I am fairly certain there is one single wall in the fount. They are very simple devices and I do not see the reasoning to design an interior container that you speak of.
@@CroakerOutdoors My Dietz Wizzard no. 1 is very old an propably made in Hong Kong 'cause there's no N.Y. stamp on it. Could be that your series are made in China or the tank is so small, they don't need double walls... Forgive me if I'm wrong. I'm very curious though.. :)
You should check the middle where the wicks enter, If it is all closed, than there is no airflow from beneath the wick or there is but the air goes over the fuel...
Mine looks the same as your blue one.
Following up, I removed the burners from all three (Blizz, Lil Wiz, & D-Lite) and inserted a borescope. It's really just a single wall as I originally said. I have the blue Little Wizard in front of me right now and when I touch the seam between the bottom plate and upper fount there is lamp oil on my finger. Where one may think there is a inner container is when the fount meets the lower cold blast assembly. This is where the fresh air tubes route air below the burner and channel it through the burner and to the flame). Dietz does a good job of mating the two and creating a visually seamless connection over which is painted.
Can this lantern use Coleman camping fuel?
Definitely not. Lantern oil or kerosene only. From what I read, using gasoline/white gas/camping fuel can cause explosions. On a full font, the lantern will last a long trip burning many hours each night. I save the camping fuel for the dual fuel lantern and stove.
You purposely mentioned they were American founded in Brooklyn New York, but it seems you purposely failed to mention where they are built now.
I'll give you 3 guesses, the first 2 don't count.
Sorry you feel that way, but “purposefully left out”? That is incorrect.
24-26, Wing Hong Street, Cheung Sha Wan, Kowloon, Hong Kong
22°20'21.7"N 114°08'57.8"E
How’d I do?
Where to buy?
Please see the video description for the links! Thank you, -CO
They’re available at several places online. Do a search. You can save money
I hate to rain on your parade sir, but if those are from the years you say they are from, why are the globes not engraved on them as they were back when they were made? Please tell me you knew this and had to replace them?
These are modern imprints you can buy off the shelf right now from Dietz. The dates stated are when the model was first released. Aside from the just about pristine condition, the hologram sticker of authenticity would be another indicator they are not 70-100 years old themselves. Thank you for your comment.
He was talking about when those models were introduced, not when his actual lanterns were made.
@@totallyfrozen Yes. I understood that. Only because I already knew the history though.
Unfortunately they are now made in China and the quality reflects this in a negative way!
@@garvinshands2135 can’t say I have any experience with any pre China units to compare. What would you say the changes have been from the move in production locations?
If you want a quality lantern, buy a feuerhand German made lantern , the dietz are now low quality Chinese crap.
Care to share how they are better?