Wow, great segment... i recently moved to a red state from blue. I can see the differences, in cist if living, the community, etc. Thank you guys for this! 😊❤
I have mixed feelings about this one. I left Orlando thinking Florida was horrible and then moved to San Francisco and regretted it. Turns out the grass was not greener on the other side I still had and have the same freedom to do or be whatever I wanted except I was paying more in taxes for it now. No one was out to get me or cared that I was gay. I then realized it had nothing to do with red or blue but rather the problem lies within the lgbt “community” itself. We want to integrate into society but we can’t even integrate amongst ourselves. You say anything against the status quo and you’re instantly lambasted and disowned. The community is filled with narcissism and entitlement and has mastered the art of hypocrisy. It’s like everyone wants to be victim. Forget logic and facts, you must stay chained to the rhythm. You want Christian’s and others to respect you and treat you kindly when you can’t even do the same to those on the same team as you. There’s no accountability. It’s like talking to children with fingers in their ears.
I lived in the Bay Area for 25 years. Thankfully, not in San Francisco proper. I 100% agree with what you've said here. Thank you for sharing. I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way! I made similar comments as yours, but you said it better!
YES!! I lived in Columbus Ohio for 8 years and had the BEST gay friends ever there (friends for life). Then I moved to Seattle for what I thought would be a good move, and encountered a gay community that was very full of itself and almost hostile to each other. I was shocked. If this is what “freedom” gets you, I’ll take a red state any day. Luckily, I met my husband of 10 years and we are thinking of moving to Boise, Idaho where he is originally from. We have gay friends there and they are so lovely. I think in cities like SF and Seattle gays tend to take themselves way too seriously. Just my experience of course, but I am looking forward to moving to a city where there seems to be a more intentional investment in relationships. I literally had a party once for some gay neighbors in my apartment building in Seattle that turned into snarky remarks about the wine I was serving and some of my decor. I showed up one time to another party in my Toyota and someone said to me “please tell me that is a rental car”. I am not kidding. We find that people are less like that in red states. And I’m a liberal, so this is odd for me to say, but it’s real.
@@FirstHillSeattle Loved your comment. It seems that urban gays believe being snarky is an entitlement. It's as if they all think they're guesting on celebrity roasts.
I love your channel! I'm gay and my husband and I have lived in Dallas for 18 years. Although we are essentially in a Blue bubble in a Red state, we moved here due to the cost of living at the time and how friendly people were. We don't live in the Gayborhood. We live in a primarily straight neighborhood but there are gay couples as well and we are embraced by everyone. We have a great life here. I had a friend who recently visited from Seattle and she was amazed at how much Dallas has to offer. We are actually considering Hendersonville, NC because it is a small town with mountain views and is close to Asheville. Another Blue Bubble in a Red state. It is very gay-friendly.
I'm retired and helping my 95 y.o. dad here in Florida but planning my life afterward. I'm finding that the community is too shallow & cliquish and the presence of a Gayborhood is rapidly becoming less of a factor. Grindr culture is not appealing.
I admit I don't have much backup information. I don't believe the red states except for some cities have good medical care for gays. From Charlotte NC I moved to a rural town. Had 1 dentist for many years. A doctor put on my medical records that I was gay. Now I can't get my teeth cleaned in that office. Through the internet records of many medical practices are shared. If I lived in a big city or a blue state I would think twice about moving to a rural red state even though the financial cost is lower, the overall costs might be higher.
Agreed that things are much more difficult in rural areas and smaller towns/cities. All the cities on this list are medium to large cities, which are blue bubbles if they’re in a red state.
This also points to a larger issue that is not talked about enough--the Orwellian state we live in where everything we say and do is tracked and monitored by the government, corporations, etc.
Oh my gosh, I needed these perspectives years ago. There's so much in that comment about how siblings figure you should naturally be the senior care provider if you didn't have kids. I'm not bitter, but I should have been better prepared financially to handle these responsibilities. My siblings and I all expected that we'd just be living our parents' quality of life as we got older. Now we're entering our 50s and we have their quality of life, but we're overspending to accommodate it (barely in the black each month). No real savings accumulating and no retirement pensions awaiting us in 15 years.
I don't think you have to justify why gay people live in red states My partner and I were born and have lived in them all our long lives. That being said, with Trump running again, we're done burning our votes, so we're heading to a blue state this next year to retire. I watched the episode out of curiosity, because it's not really new to us. Y'all are always worth the watch!
I heard 3 reasons out of 7 that all amounted to "financial factors," but thank you for articulating the aspects of it. I fit in some of the categories you spelled out for why someone stays in a red state. I am a gay 56 year old cis man itching to retire but certainly not able to financially yet, and when I do, given that my professional career has been entirely in Louisiana and Alabama and that my profession is as social worker, not a neurosurgeon, not a corporate lawyer, not a physician, etc., when I AM able to retire, my fixed income will never stand me in good financial stead to move to my original home state of Washington, let alone California or Massechussettes. Your podcast is helpful to remind me I am not " alone in being alone!" Oops, that's a "the Police/Message in a Bottle" lyric. Lol My remaining quibble is more with HRC's municipal equality index than with Queer Money. I still don't think blue cities in red states can legitimately be considered capable of scoring a 100 on the index. Those oppressive state laws and governments mean something real. 80, 85, sure, maybe. But 100 makes no sense to me. Finally, I would like to hear more about some of those locations that DON'T score a perfect 100. 80's and 90's need their day in the sun. 🌞
Glad to hear that. Not sure how you identify or where in these states you’re located but some folks are under attack and we need folks there to help and support them. 😉
People wanting land for horses make this choice often, away from population centers and other interests. Everything is a tradeoff with individual cost-benefit equations.
Exactly. We all have unique needs, wants and desires. We should respect the choices of others rather than demean them for a choice we know nothing about
Thank you for mentioning the housing issue in blue states. I don't know if I commented on it before on your channel, but it sure sounded like you were quoting something I said, LOL.
I live in Houston and I'm going to be honest - I haven't dealt with any severe homophobia since the early '10s. Legitimately, people are less "regressive" here than people assume.
My best friend is an American and analyst for the banks once have moved to red states when they did their cost, they were not thinking of employees. They have to have huge sign-on bonuses plus they do not stay long. They stay 2 to 5 years back to major cities with financial services they’re going to employees and that was one thing they were not expecting my friend who is an analyst warn them. This could happen. It was a prediction, when it has a half $1 billion and trying to find employees and not high employees sign on bonuses hiring agencies trying to train people within the state trying to get the college in the universities start do not last the rest of the world the banks are in the major cities. The US is trying this experiment and at the front end it looked great but it’s not turning out as good as they were expecting.
I came to look after sick parents and got stuck here, I hate this place and trying to get myself out of here. I live in Fayetteville NC. Problem is I can't sell this house for enough in the local economy to afford a house in a better state.
Yes, gay conservative Republican, and yes I live in a red state that many consider the most negative state of Florida. I honor the people who are looking to protect, children, and keep things focused on the average middle-class person. I came from NYC and I am much more comfortable living in Florida. I have never liked extremes of any type and I could never live in a gay ghetto, I enjoy living in a neighborhood where all people are welcome. It has become an issue for every American to be able to afford to have a life and not suffer from insane inflation... Why be forced to live in a blue state if you do not agree with the politics, and are suffering to afford any quality of life.
I have to say that I am enjoying your series(still going back to the older ones) and especially love the red state vids...make me think a bit differently about the red state i am in and what my choices are.
Great question. I think it would drastically change the global picture. The rest of the US would constantly be deep red and probably all states would lose LGBTQ rights. Many of us would suffer if we’re not financially privileged enough to move to CA or another country. Seems like it would be an incredibly selfish thing to do to so many other Americans. But that’s my opinion 🤷🏻♂️
So if 45 wins in November, then what. We all have to move to Canada or Europe? People talk the talk, just to hear themselves. You guys hit right on the head with many of you options. I am thinking of Ohio too....
Giod points. As for "sense of community," I think the phenomenon of Salt Lake City's queer scene. Surprisely powerful for such a conservative state, but likely it is that very conservatism that spurred the drive for queer community to coalesce.
I grew up in Arizona I'm 66 and still here,and lgbtq republican,I like lower taxes and I can carry a gun for protection,and have never had any problems and I'm an out lesbian,the garbage you here on the news is just not right
Plus most major cities in Maricopa county and tucson have gay protections. And there is even pride events in Flagstaff, Window Rock (indigenous people) and Payson. When I was raised in Phx, was republican. But changed after the reality fo their hate mongering. And the idea of less taxes is not true anymore. You cost is higher than many states. But to each their own, as long as your happy.
@@jacklong7048 And besides all that, I think this whole focus on just one set of protections is super narrow. When I lived in a blue city, I was more afraid of random drunk people hanging out on my front porch causing trouble than I was of being gay. Not to mention all the store closings in my neighborhood due to theft. Cops not allowed to enforce basic law and order because of local/state policies.
Love your podcast, but not a fan of your “financial privilege” comment. “Financial means” would have been much less triggering, and would not have implied that all those with money are just “privileged”.
@@mysticaltyger2009But everyone who attains a certain financial status is privileged. I don’t know why we are so scared of the word privilege in this country. Knowing it shows a self awareness that is admirable. There’s nothing wrong with privilege, but there used to be a time when the privileged citizens in our society felt a need to give back to their communities.
I Love Your video Hey Fellas i,m from Ohio and i have A True Love Story with a Sad Ending And a Request if a Open Gay Couple will help me i dated my Partner for 5 years we were inseperable we were very Sexually active Then one night while Cuddling he mention about have a Threesome I was very happy to spice things up but saddly he got killed in a car crash while he was in the Hospital before he Passed he told me to live on our Quest for a Threesome i dont want to strain any couples relation ship but if there is a Open gay Couple in Ohio who Will Accept this Request i,m in Northwest Ohio
Wow, great segment... i recently moved to a red state from blue. I can see the differences, in cist if living, the community, etc. Thank you guys for this! 😊❤
You bet. There are many reasons to live in or leave a state. We all have to find what works best for us
Queer people are family no matter why they choose to live.
Exactly. ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤🩵🤍🩷
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I have mixed feelings about this one. I left Orlando thinking Florida was horrible and then moved to San Francisco and regretted it. Turns out the grass was not greener on the other side I still had and have the same freedom to do or be whatever I wanted except I was paying more in taxes for it now. No one was out to get me or cared that I was gay. I then realized it had nothing to do with red or blue but rather the problem lies within the lgbt “community” itself. We want to integrate into society but we can’t even integrate amongst ourselves. You say anything against the status quo and you’re instantly lambasted and disowned. The community is filled with narcissism and entitlement and has mastered the art of hypocrisy. It’s like everyone wants to be victim. Forget logic and facts, you must stay chained to the rhythm. You want Christian’s and others to respect you and treat you kindly when you can’t even do the same to those on the same team as you. There’s no accountability. It’s like talking to children with fingers in their ears.
I lived in the Bay Area for 25 years. Thankfully, not in San Francisco proper. I 100% agree with what you've said here. Thank you for sharing. I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way! I made similar comments as yours, but you said it better!
YES!! I lived in Columbus Ohio for 8 years and had the BEST gay friends ever there (friends for life). Then I moved to Seattle for what I thought would be a good move, and encountered a gay community that was very full of itself and almost hostile to each other. I was shocked. If this is what “freedom” gets you, I’ll take a red state any day. Luckily, I met my husband of 10 years and we are thinking of moving to Boise, Idaho where he is originally from. We have gay friends there and they are so lovely. I think in cities like SF and Seattle gays tend to take themselves way too seriously. Just my experience of course, but I am looking forward to moving to a city where there seems to be a more intentional investment in relationships. I literally had a party once for some gay neighbors in my apartment building in Seattle that turned into snarky remarks about the wine I was serving and some of my decor. I showed up one time to another party in my Toyota and someone said to me “please tell me that is a rental car”. I am not kidding. We find that people are less like that in red states. And I’m a liberal, so this is odd for me to say, but it’s real.
@@FirstHillSeattle Loved your comment. It seems that urban gays believe being snarky is an entitlement. It's as if they all think they're guesting on celebrity roasts.
Turkeys really do vote for Christmas
Wait till you hear 'Queers for Palestine'
I love your channel! I'm gay and my husband and I have lived in Dallas for 18 years. Although we are essentially in a Blue bubble in a Red state, we moved here due to the cost of living at the time and how friendly people were. We don't live in the Gayborhood. We live in a primarily straight neighborhood but there are gay couples as well and we are embraced by everyone.
We have a great life here. I had a friend who recently visited from Seattle and she was amazed at how much Dallas has to offer. We are actually considering Hendersonville, NC because it is a small town with mountain views and is close to Asheville. Another Blue Bubble in a Red state. It is very gay-friendly.
I'm retired and helping my 95 y.o. dad here in Florida but planning my life afterward. I'm finding that the community is too shallow & cliquish and the presence of a Gayborhood is rapidly becoming less of a factor. Grindr culture is not appealing.
I am in Tennessee and we need to absolutely embrace all. Except MAGAs
🤩🤩🤩 Yes, freedom for all doesn’t mean only for white Christofascists!
I admit I don't have much backup information. I don't believe the red states except for some cities have good medical care for gays. From Charlotte NC I moved to a rural town. Had 1 dentist for many years. A doctor put on my medical records that I was gay. Now I can't get my teeth cleaned in that office. Through the internet records of many medical practices are shared. If I lived in a big city or a blue state I would think twice about moving to a rural red state even though the financial cost is lower, the overall costs might be higher.
Agreed that things are much more difficult in rural areas and smaller towns/cities. All the cities on this list are medium to large cities, which are blue bubbles if they’re in a red state.
This also points to a larger issue that is not talked about enough--the Orwellian state we live in where everything we say and do is tracked and monitored by the government, corporations, etc.
It's a strange thought to think no gay people live anywhere. A man from Lebanon told me there were absolutely NO Gay people in Lebanon. I laughed.
Oh my gosh, I needed these perspectives years ago. There's so much in that comment about how siblings figure you should naturally be the senior care provider if you didn't have kids. I'm not bitter, but I should have been better prepared financially to handle these responsibilities. My siblings and I all expected that we'd just be living our parents' quality of life as we got older. Now we're entering our 50s and we have their quality of life, but we're overspending to accommodate it (barely in the black each month). No real savings accumulating and no retirement pensions awaiting us in 15 years.
There’s always time to make a few changes that could help you land a better retirement
Thank you for this video!
Moved to casa Grande Arizona in 09, for peace and tranquility. Now it's a big boom Town.
These days AZ is looking a bit more purple than red. 😃 let’s hope it stays that way or gets more blue 💙💙💙
@@queermoney amen
I don't think you have to justify why gay people live in red states
My partner and I were born and have lived in them all our long lives. That being said, with Trump running again, we're done burning our votes, so we're heading to a blue state this next year to retire. I watched the episode out of curiosity, because it's not really new to us. Y'all are always worth the watch!
Thanks for several reasons. 😍
We shouldn’t have to, but some folks just don’t want to believe there’s a reason to live in these states. 🤷🏻♂️
I'm gay and from Ohio but I live in a blue City in a blue County and I feel completely 100% safe in dayton ohio area.
I heard 3 reasons out of 7 that all amounted to "financial factors," but thank you for articulating the aspects of it.
I fit in some of the categories you spelled out for why someone stays in a red state. I am a gay 56 year old cis man itching to retire but certainly not able to financially yet, and when I do, given that my professional career has been entirely in Louisiana and Alabama and that my profession is as social worker, not a neurosurgeon, not a corporate lawyer, not a physician, etc., when I AM able to retire, my fixed income will never stand me in good financial stead to move to my original home state of Washington, let alone California or Massechussettes.
Your podcast is helpful to remind me I am not " alone in being alone!" Oops, that's a "the Police/Message in a Bottle" lyric. Lol
My remaining quibble is more with HRC's municipal equality index than with Queer Money. I still don't think blue cities in red states can legitimately be considered capable of scoring a 100 on the index. Those oppressive state laws and governments mean something real. 80, 85, sure, maybe. But 100 makes no sense to me.
Finally, I would like to hear more about some of those locations that DON'T score a perfect 100. 80's and 90's need their day in the sun. 🌞
Never had any issues living in red states. Will move to our 3rd red state in the coming years
Glad to hear that. Not sure how you identify or where in these states you’re located but some folks are under attack and we need folks there to help and support them. 😉
People wanting land for horses make this choice often, away from population centers and other interests. Everything is a tradeoff with individual cost-benefit equations.
Exactly. We all have unique needs, wants and desires. We should respect the choices of others rather than demean them for a choice we know nothing about
Thank you for mentioning the housing issue in blue states. I don't know if I commented on it before on your channel, but it sure sounded like you were quoting something I said, LOL.
My husband and I live in Florida, we hate it, but it is what it is 😢
From the tears it looks like North Florida.
It’s unfortunate how the state has shifted right because of a small minority
Why so bad?
Well heres a shocker for all the bedwetters out there about gays living in red states - I not only live in the biggest red state, I vote conservative.
I live in Houston and I'm going to be honest - I haven't dealt with any severe homophobia since the early '10s. Legitimately, people are less "regressive" here than people assume.
Diversity with limitations…I don’t get it.
Right?!?
This is great content for an independent gay person who leans more conservative on life issues/choices.
My best friend is an American and analyst for the banks once have moved to red states when they did their cost, they were not thinking of employees. They have to have huge sign-on bonuses plus they do not stay long. They stay 2 to 5 years back to major cities with financial services they’re going to employees and that was one thing they were not expecting my friend who is an analyst warn them. This could happen. It was a prediction, when it has a half $1 billion and trying to find employees and not high employees sign on bonuses hiring agencies trying to train people within the state trying to get the college in the universities start do not last the rest of the world the banks are in the major cities. The US is trying this experiment and at the front end it looked great but it’s not turning out as good as they were expecting.
I came to look after sick parents and got stuck here, I hate this place and trying to get myself out of here. I live in Fayetteville NC. Problem is I can't sell this house for enough in the local economy to afford a house in a better state.
Yes, gay conservative Republican, and yes I live in a red state that many consider the most negative state of Florida. I honor the people who are looking to protect, children, and keep things focused on the average middle-class person. I came from NYC and I am much more comfortable living in Florida. I have never liked extremes of any type and I could never live in a gay ghetto, I enjoy living in a neighborhood where all people are welcome. It has become an issue for every American to be able to afford to have a life and not suffer from insane inflation... Why be forced to live in a blue state if you do not agree with the politics, and are suffering to afford any quality of life.
I have to say that I am enjoying your series(still going back to the older ones) and especially love the red state vids...make me think a bit differently about the red state i am in and what my choices are.
Video suggestion: actual cost of home ownership, how to save for a house and how to deal with this housing market?
What happened in California broke away from the US and became itself country and you had to cross a border to get in would you go?
Great question. I think it would drastically change the global picture. The rest of the US would constantly be deep red and probably all states would lose LGBTQ rights. Many of us would suffer if we’re not financially privileged enough to move to CA or another country. Seems like it would be an incredibly selfish thing to do to so many other Americans. But that’s my opinion 🤷🏻♂️
@@queermoney Mexico awaits...
So if 45 wins in November, then what. We all have to move to Canada or Europe? People talk the talk, just to hear themselves. You guys hit right on the head with many of you options. I am thinking of Ohio too....
Giod points.
As for "sense of community," I think the phenomenon of Salt Lake City's queer scene. Surprisely powerful for such a conservative state, but likely it is that very conservatism that spurred the drive for queer community to coalesce.
LOL, I am only here for the comments !, However, keep up the good work .
I grew up in Arizona I'm 66 and still here,and lgbtq republican,I like lower taxes and I can carry a gun for protection,and have never had any problems and I'm an out lesbian,the garbage you here on the news is just not right
Plus most major cities in Maricopa county and tucson have gay protections. And there is even pride events in Flagstaff, Window Rock (indigenous people) and Payson. When I was raised in Phx, was republican. But changed after the reality fo their hate mongering. And the idea of less taxes is not true anymore. You cost is higher than many states. But to each their own, as long as your happy.
I mean, if the media covering up Biden's serious cognitive problems (ahem) doesn't open people's eyes, nothing will.
@@jacklong7048 And besides all that, I think this whole focus on just one set of protections is super narrow. When I lived in a blue city, I was more afraid of random drunk people hanging out on my front porch causing trouble than I was of being gay. Not to mention all the store closings in my neighborhood due to theft. Cops not allowed to enforce basic law and order because of local/state policies.
When the round you up after Trump wins, let me know how that decision turned out for you! 😉😛🤣
I ❤ this comment
Love your podcast, but not a fan of your “financial privilege” comment. “Financial means” would have been much less triggering, and would not have implied that all those with money are just “privileged”.
Good point. Not everyone who is in a good financial position came from a well off family.
@@mysticaltyger2009But everyone who attains a certain financial status is privileged. I don’t know why we are so scared of the word privilege in this country. Knowing it shows a self awareness that is admirable. There’s nothing wrong with privilege, but there used to be a time when the privileged citizens in our society felt a need to give back to their communities.
I Love Your video Hey Fellas i,m from Ohio and i have A True Love Story with a Sad Ending And a Request if a Open Gay Couple will help me i dated my Partner for 5 years we were inseperable we were very Sexually active Then one night while Cuddling he mention about have a Threesome I was very happy to spice things up but saddly he got killed in a car crash while he was in the Hospital before he Passed he told me to live on our Quest for a Threesome i dont want to strain any couples relation ship but if there is a Open gay Couple in Ohio who Will Accept this Request i,m in Northwest Ohio