What Separates Judaism From Christianity?
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- Опубліковано 1 гру 2018
- What's the difference between Judaism and Christianity? Pastor John MacArthur joins Ben Shapiro to break it down.
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What separates Christianity from Judaism? *Jesus Christ* which is the very foundation of our faith in whom we find salvation
MSNPC That’s it! Either you believe Jesus is the Messiah or you don’t.
Also, Jesus LITERALLY is the Word of God, the Law of God, in the flesh. So, to deny his divinity and messianic mission is to deny the Word through which all of the universe was created.
God bless you so much.
That's the only difference. Funnily enough.
And the rebellion of people to recieve the Lord Jesus Christ separates them from the Father.
Jesus did not come to change the Law but to fulfill it.
Dave R Matthew 5:17
If that's the case, he sure did mess up
@S H How do you know that? How is the prophecies of "world peace" etc fulfilled in our time?
Dave R
Yes the definition of fulfill is to magnify it and make it honorable. To expand it to its fullness.
It never says its abolished.
The law that was nailed to the cRoss, was the law of Sin and Death.
When you put your Faith in Jesus, His Blood ATONED for your sin and you NO longer have to die the second death because of your sin.
Jesus overcame death for us.
Not even the law of sin and death was abolished. But if you put your life in the Service of Yeshua, then that death penalty is
Nailed to the cross (Jesus was nailed to the cross).
We receive eternal life through Jesus.
No law was abolished, not one letter of one word. NONE of it. Not one word. Jesus was the living Word.
@@ruth7965No changes! what happened to the Shabbos. Kosher
Circumcision. Etc
Respect to both these dudes for knowing how to maintain a civil, mature conversation
Absolutely! I wonder what Shapiro responded after that final remark by the other guy.
Especially given Ben Shapiro's public statements about Jesus in the past. Jesus was a lamb for us all not a common Criminal
Jonathan Pierre because they’re both on the same team. Both religious.
Two unbelievers . An atheist and a blatant false teacher . They're conversation is woefully ugly and all wrong.
@@JustHereToHearthis should be the top comment. If I had have known it was going to end like this, I'd have not watched.
For a CHILD will be born to us, a SON will be given to us; And the government will rest on HIS shoulders; And HIS name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace
The son is the visible person of THE INVISIBLE GOD.... A SPIRIT... as Jesus said ... "" If you"ve seen me, you've seen the Father " - - there is ONE mediator between GOD & MAN..... the MAN CHRIST JESUS !"
PRINCE OF PEACE????WERE IS THE PEACE THAT YOU TALK IN A SICK WORLD, YOU IDIOT??????????????????????????
@Paula Wallace
free.messianicbible.com/
Ignorant
@@junevon1738 Not peace among men, peace with God and men.
Wow...John MacArthur and Ben Shapiro..
Yeah, isn't that something. Could listen to their conversation for hours. Solid , GOOD men
Pity John doesnt call him out on bens hypocracy covering up hate crimes against Christians 9/10 acts of religious persecution is against Christians. 90%
@tombasenjam5242
That’s the same as saying WOW satan and Ben.
Calvinism is from the pits of hell, saves no one. False works based religion, they don’t know the gospel or how to be saved.
I really admire how intently and respectfully Ben Shapiro was listening
No. Ben Shapiro hates Jesus. Stop giving money to Ben.
Why does Shapiro deny Jesus?
@@eltopo71 Because he’s an unrepentant blasphemer. If he doesn’t repent, then he will find himself in the lake of fire.
Of course he better not piss off his Christian base that gave him everything
#MeToo.
I am from Afghanistan and I was a muslim. Whenever I did something bad, the elders called me “O Yahood O nasara” meaning “O Jewish O Christian”. I was learnt to hate jewish and Christians. The Great “I AM” has set me free and I so love the jewish people. I have a very special love toward the people who The Great “I AM” choose to reveal himself. A son is given to us - Immanuel - in the cross of Jesus Christ - the Great “I AM” has shown His ultimate love - deep love - to mankind, not only to the Jewish. The Great “I AM” promised Abraham to be the father of many - He promised to bless Abraham and make him successful in life. He promised Abraham to bless the world through him. I think we have a ✅ on all that. Thousands year later, literally over 50% of people on the face of earth know the name of Abraham. He is the only person who become a nation hehe. ✅ on Abraham being successful and ✅ on The Great “I AM” being trustworthy. A son is given to us - and in the Logos we find this:
✅ sins being paid for.
✅ receive The Holy Spirit who leads us to all truth. He who knows the heart of the Great “I AM”.
✅become a true son of God. A brother to Jesus. A member of the family- the family of the Great “I AM”.
✅eternal life. Salvation is a gift, received.
NB!!!!!!!!
there is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved.
Every Homo sapiens need Jesus Christ. There is not even one righteous - all has sinned - the writer of the psalms says; I was born a sinner.
EVERY HOMO SAPIENS NEED JESUS.
DESPERATELY!
apart from Jesus - Homo sapiens are in REAL danger of going to what we call hell- whatever it means - a baaad place- an ugly place - as ugly as the face of the Son on the Cross. People didn’t dare to watch Him - He was beaten for us - in His wounds have we found healing - healing of mind - healing of Heart - healing of love - healing of hope - He is the TRUE lamb of God - Thank You Jesus! Thank you 🙏 Thank You for giving your life for me. Knowing how loved I am in You - has healed many of my wounds. Thank you for eternal life. Thank you for making me strong to filter my thoughts - thank you for making me physically strong - thank you that I have always had the blessings in you. Thank you for choosing me before the creation to become like my buddy- Lord Jesus Christ. I love you man. I really want to love you. We can love him because He has FIRST loved us. I hope I one day meet Mr. Shapiro. You have been a great inspiration for me personally. You are one of my great Heros 😊. I love you. I love Joel Osteen. I love Mr. MacArthur. I love Rick Warren. I love Joseph Prince. I love David Wood. I love Andy Stanley. I love Joyce Meyer. I love oneforIsrael.org boys. I have learnt so much from you guys. Just remember; I can F*** you all in one to one fight - in many ways. Just warning hehe - I am 180cm, and 80kilo, strong as f***. - anyway Have a great day.
Have you received Jesus Christ?
I hope so. If not. Do you want to receive Him? If yes. Please say this prayer with me: Dear The Great “I AM”. I am small. You big. Your thoughts are not mind thoughts say. You the creator. Me the creation. Humble coming to you Jesus. Please bless me too with whatever you have blessed this Afghan guy. Amen. And I pray that the Great “I AM” bless you all with Ephesians 1:17 in Jesus Mighty Name🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
Jesus Christ was t final sacrifice, hallelujah!
John 1:29 The next day he saw Jesus coming to him and said, Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
Amen!! The last sacrifice indeed!
Jesus was the final sacrifice, which is why Christians actually are not allowed, by their faith, to circumcise their sons.
@Mad Dog Avraham Lol exactly that why He gave His commandments "Thou shalt not kill" and "Thou shill love the Lord your God with all your heart. with all your soul, with all your mind and with all your strength! For this is the greatest commendment." And thy shall love thy neighbor as I have love you; He was talking about man, that He created, killing one another, going to war against one another and saying they did it in the name of God, this is the sacrifice He was talking about, human beings killing other human beings and they say that they do it in the name of God as a sacrifice to God, that is defiling God's Holy nature! This is the reason Jesus came to be a pattern, mould, and a base, that He came as the sacrifice lamb of God, to show us mercy, and to teach us how to deny ourselves and to live to the ways of God! Which is to put on the humanity of Jesus by emptying ourselves out and having the mind that was in Jesus.That why Jesus said "Tell me what it means I prefer mercy and not sacrifices! So therefore Jesus was the perfect sacrifice of God!
amen
I truy admire Ben Shapiro and fundamentally agree with him on almost every aspect. That being said, I myself am a Christian and it is hard to watch him struggle with the concept of Christ Jesus.
I believe he is being too analytical. I also believe that he is doing the very thing that not only he is explaining in this video, but also what God foretold the Jews would do and struggle with in His word.
Pray for this man!
The way I see it, if you base your belief in Christ only after working out every little detail and concluding every argument, that's not the way it's meant to be. Jesus himself stated some very strange things, that threw those people off who relied on reasoning before they believed. John 6:30, they ask, what will You do to prove You are who You appear to be. He proceeds in a bit to explain that they must eat Him, because He is the Bread of Life. So, disconcerted, many left him, even people who claimed to be His disciples(other than the 12) (John 6:66). It's like whenever people wanted to reason their way into believing, Jesus gave their logic a blow, and shook them and most fell away, till what was left was only those who believed Him from their heart(think: child like faith). John 6:67-69 where Jesus asked if the 12 disciples wanted to leave, but Peter responds that they have no where to go because they believed they had found the Messiah.
I like that.
MIAcane23 It’s not just that he is too analytical, many Jews do not believe that that Jesus is the Messiah. I once visited a Jewish synagogue and one individual who was kinda facilitating our visit explained what he (and others) believed and did not believe.
@ابو ليث الخطيب Do you even praise the Moon God?
"The French scholar Andre Dupont-Sommer, who was not a member of the scroll publication team, sought to draw a direct line between the Dead Sea Scrolls from Qumran and Christianity, arguing that Jesus was prefigured by a character in the scrolls known as the Teacher of Righteousness."
Source: www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/portrait/scrollmeaning.html
Shapiro is a brilliant researcher.
Unfortunately I feel that he would rather not look deeper into the matter of Judaism / Jesus.
Question for Shapiro:
Can we learn & grow to understand God exclusively by the Torah & Tanac , or is is the Talmud essential to understanding God ?
I hope Ben one day will see that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament.
@Alexander Cruz
Jesus is God, period.
_Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am._ - John 8:58
Absolute nonsense. Jesus was simply a Jewish radical; he made the mistake of arguing with my ancestors, the Sadducees.
@@Transpower Your ancestors made the mistake of cozying up to Babylon.
RyuSei00555
Amen! I love Ben and I pray He would begin to seek the truth of who Jesus Christ was AND IS! Jesus said, and IT IS FINISHED! Hallelujah!
Let's commit it to prayer that all Jews, all of mankind will repent and trust in Jesus. People just don't know the freedom of stopping the daily struggle to be "good" and stopping trusting in our own works to get us to heaven. Jesus is the only way.
Im with Ben on everything, except religion. I believe Jesus is the son of God
Arent we all the kids of god?
Why do you believe Jesus is the literal son of God?
@Eternal Justice He created us and something that created us no metter in what way is our parent
BookishAlarm11 You have every right to your beliefs man.
Mizan... Hi. Great question! What is your frame of thought, when asking this question? Did God literally conceive a child, or Did God make Jesus, like he did when creating Man in his image? Are you asking if God had a wife? If you are answering yes, then NO ONE, and NO religion knows THAT, in that perspective! If you are asking if Jesus is the Son of God, then the scriptures tell of such. Also, why do I believe it? I believe in truth, and facts. The Bible has already been proven, and we today, still HAVE those written manuscripts of the Bible that we can, and have examined. Personally, I have a connection with God, through prayer, what I ask about, and pray for, DOES happen! The Bible Lives! God Lives; Jesus Lives!
I love his answer to Ben Shapiros question, "what is the main difference between the Jewish and Chrsitian faith?"
Pastor John Macarthur's answer,
"What we do with JESUS CHRIST is the distinguishing factor."
Actually, the main difference in the story is because the Christians have their books translated, and we have the originals, but had lost some. Yehoshua Ben Yosef is part of the stuff that got misplaced...
John Smith no. The Christian Bible (not catholic - and disregarding some such as the message bible and the Jefferson bible) is infallible and does not contradict itself. There are thousands of manuscripts, including the Dead Sea scrolls that prove it. Translations may differ slightly as some are translated word by word and others thought by thought, but they match the original manuscripts
"What we do with Jesus" does not distinguish between the Jewish and Christian faith! It does distinguish between " Saved and Lost"! The distinguishing factor between the Jewish and Christian faith is simply that the Jews faith require "works" ( sacrifices) ; the Christian faith is based on just that: Faith and Faith alone! The work was done on the Cross of Calvary! Any Jew or Gentile can come to Jesus Christ just by faith on His finished work on the Cross! That is why He said 'It is finished'! He became our "rest"; no more works! As born again believers, we do not work to be saved, we work as led of the Holy Spirit! He is our righteousness! The blood was applied over the door post in the OT! Today when one becomes a "believer", the blood of Jesus is applied and the sins are covered! When God looks at me, He sees the blood of Jesus Christ because I have accepted His sacrifice on the Cross as payment for my sin debt! All to Him I owe! In honor for what He has already done, I want to live my life to please Him! The Holy Spirit that Jesus gave to me at my "New Birth"does all the work through me! That's why the Bible says" you have no need that man teach you"! The Holy Spirit is your teacher, your guide, your comforter, your everything!! He is all in all! When one realize the blessings of salvation, how can that one not accept Jesus Christ! A giving up of eternal damnation for eternal life! All because of God's Amazing Grace! That is why it is AMAZING!!! The Sacrifice has been made ONCE AND FOR ALL!
@@deneseshepherd9054 Amen
@@isabelamoore337 the catholic bible is the Christian Bible sinner
Father, please keep opening Ben Shapiro's eyes to the reality that Jesus IS the Messiah! Thank You for what you've already started in him. Your word says that You are the author and finisher of our faith 🙌🙌🙌
Paula Wallace Romans 10:9
that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
Philippians 2:9-11
For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
2 Corinthians 4:5
For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your bond-servants for Jesus' sake.
Amen.
@@mariahvilla2138why can’t you guys respect his religion when he respects yours??
Thank you Ben and Pastor John for having this dialogue! As a Christian, this excites me! May our God be glorified and may more and more eyes be opened to the Lord Jesus Christ!
Yvette Sterling nut
Except there's no such thing as god
Michael Roman
“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.”
John 6:44 NASB
“And He was saying, "For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father."”
John 6:65 NASB
Read all the chapters of John 5, John 6 & John 8. If you have time, read all of the book of John.
Autistic Anteater
“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.”
John 6:44 NASB
“And He was saying, "For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father."”
John 6:65 NASB
Read all the chapters of John 5, John 6, & John 8. If you have time, read all of the book of John.
I feel the same way Yvette. I’m proud to be a nut.
I’ve watched a number of Jews who investigated who Jesus was in Isaiah and other recognized Jewish scripture and came to the conclusion that Jesus fulfilled scripture and was exactly who He claimed to be. I balled my eyes out each time when they accepted Christ Jesus as their savior and I am not an outwardly emotional man. I pray that many Jews, Islamists, Hindus, Buddhist and luke warm Christians fully see as the veil is lifted and come to Christ Jesus. Amen
Thank you for sharing this. I come in agreement with your prayer
Where is peace on earth? No Jesus was not the messiah. He was a Jew, one of our tribe. A religious Jew and died a Jew.
@@Lagolop I think the peace is between God and man
Oh I know what you mean! It often makes me cry too, when I hear people start believing in Jesus. I don't even expect it, I smile… and smile... and then as soon as they say it - bam, I break down.
I had decided to move to Japan (not very soon though) to spread the Gospel there. At one point I started wondering if God was into it too, or if it was just my wish that I wove for myself. So I spend some time in prayer for that. During that period I watched this one video about Christians in Japan and what they felt before finding Christ and how they found Christ. Man, I was c r y i n g! I was crying so much I had to pause the video so my eyes clear up and I can continue watching, but as soon as I read a few more lines of the subtitles my crying intensified again and my vision was again too blury to read. So again I would pause, cry it out, press play, cry harder, press pause, etc. :D
You mean muslims right? Islamists are extremist muslims as far as the term islamist has been used so far.
I pray that the veil be lifted for Ben Shapiro........I absolutely love his videos and pray to call him my brother in Christ someday soon.........
Please take a moment and lovingly pray to Lord Jesus Christ that He purify Ben Shapiro and everyone he knows and help them be eternally devoted to Lord Jesus Christ. : )
The Pastor is talking utter nonsense, but its because of categorical ignorance. The verse in Genesis says 'let us make a man in our image', only fools interpret this to mean a physical form. What it really means is that in this context 'image' means 'in likeness', which means that God wanted to create humans that will be capable to do acts of kindness and benevolence. Just like God feeds the hungry, clothes the naked, and cares of the poor, so too man should be like God in this sense. Any attribution of physicality is blasphemous in Judaism as God had said it openly and clearly on Mount Sinai in the Ten Commandments:
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth: 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me; 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
If God was a physical image why should he command the Jews not to make an image out of him? Clearly, Christians have no idea what they are talking about. Its all wrong, they got everything wrong and mixed up. Also you have to understand one more important thing, the Jewish Bible is called Torah which in Hebrew means teaching. The entire Torah is there to teach us. What does the Torah teach us when it says 'Let us make a man in our image'? It doesnt mean that God is having a conversation with himself or his other parts. God has no parts. Only physical things have parts. It is a cardinal and categorical requirement the ABC of Judaism to believe that God is only one, and with no divisions. So when God says 'let us' he is teaching us a lesson that even the Great should at timesconsult and ask for advice from the lesser. In this context He was talking to the angels as if to teach us moral and ethical conduct, that even the wisest should consult. That it, God doesn't really need permission to do anything as it says in.Ecclesiastes 8:4 "inasmuch as a king’s command is authoritative, and none can say to him, “What are you doing?”. God does't need anyone's permission but he does teach us that even the Great should consult the lesser.
As to the Christians 'inventing' the idea of 'The spirit of the Law', now that's a bunch of hogwash. I wonder where did they lose this teaching when they were butchering and pillaging round about at anywhere they set foot? raping, and pillaging anyone who simply didn't want to convert? Were they following 'The Spirit of the Law' when God said Thou Shall not Murder' when they left a trail of blood criss crossed on 3 continents , Asia, Europe and Africa for over a Thousand Years?
Where was Christianity's so called 'Spirit of the Law' when over 10,000 Jewish Sacred Writings where gathered in the Notre Damm Cathedral and burnt publicly in 1242?
This arrogant pastor calling the High Priest who served in the Temple on Yom Kippur a butcher. He has the audacity to call God's chosen High Priest, who has done his will and followed his holy commandments of performing the sacred rituals in the Holy of Holies, a Butcher. Yet he calls his Christian murderers, rapists, thieves, arsonists, conquerers and oppressors as following the 'Spirit of the Law'... can you get the picture now of how much perversion of reality this idiotic priest is spewing?
God had said in the Jewish Bible several times that he not a man but the Christian fools simply refuse to listen and believe God when he says that He is not a man:
1. God is not a man, so he does not lie. He is not human, so he does not change his mind. Has he ever spoken and failed to act? Has he ever promised and not carried it through Numbers 23:19
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2. And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he is not a man, that he should repent. Samuel 15:29
3. He forbids to turn Him into a physical form: Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth. The Ten Commandments.
Christianity and Islam both are human made religions, and have no divinity and are both total and categorical lies.
Only the Jews who were chosen by God in front of the entire world and who received the Oracles of Faith have the truth, all other 10,000 world religions are false.
"But you are my witnesses, O Israel!” says the LORD. “You are my servant. You have been chosen to know me, believe in me, and understand that I alone am God. There is no other God- there never has been, and there never will be". Isaiah 43:10
Amennn!
Shapiro knows the truth - Jesus is NOT God. The veil is the one over the Christian's eyes which I pray God removes.
@@musician6655 Here are some examples of what I believe to be Jesus from the Old Testament, friend. I only got these from the 4 Gospels and the book of Hebrews.
John the Baptist:
Matthew 3:3; Mark 1:3; Luke 3:4; John 1:23-Isaiah 40:3 VOICE CRYING IN THE WILDERNESS
11:10; Mark 1:2; Luke 7:27-Malachi 3:1 BEHOLD, I SEND MY MESSENGER WHO WILL PREPARE THE WAY
MESSIAH:
Matthew 1:23-Isaiah 7:14 VIRGIN BIRTH/IMMANUEL
Matthew 2:6-Micah 5:2 FROM BETHLEHEM WILL COME A RULER FOR ISRAEL
Matthew 2:15-Hosea 11:1 OUT OF EGYPT I CALLED MY SON
Matthew 2:18-Jeremiah 31:15 IN RAMAH, RACHEL WEEPING FOR HER CHILDREN (Herod’s baby-killing)
Matthew 9:13;12:7-Hosea 6:6 I DESIRE MERCY, AND NOT SACRIFICE I came not to call the righteous, but sinners AND if you knew what this means, you wouldn’t have condemned the guiltless-For the Son of Man is lord of the Sabbath
Matthew 12:17-Isaiah 42:1-3 BEHOLD MY SERVANT, MY CHOSEN/BELOVED
Matthew 13:14; Luke 8:10; John 12:38-Isaiah 6:9,10 HEAR BUT DO NOT UNDERSTAND, SEE BUT DO NOT PERCEIVE
Matthew 13:35-Psalm 78:2 I WILL OPEN MY MOUTH IN PARABLE
Matthew 21:4; John 12:14-Zechariah 9:9 BEHOLD, YOUR KING IS COMING ON A DONKEY
Matthew 21:16-Psalm 8:2 OUT OF THE MOUTHS OF INFANTS & BABIES YOU’VE PREPARED PRAISE
Matthew 21:42; Mark 12:10; Luke 20:17-Psalm 118:22,23 THE REJECTED STONE HAS BECOME THE CORNERSTONE
Matthew 22:43; Mark 12:35; Luke 20:41-Psalm 110:1 SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND UNTIL I MAKE YOUR ENEMIES YOUR FOOTSTOOL
Matthew 23:39; Luke 13:35-Psalm 118:26 BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD
Matthew 26:31; Mark 14:27-Zechariah 13:7 I WILL STRIKE THE SHEPHERD & THE SHEEP WILL BE SCATTERED
Matthew 27:9-Zechariah 11:13 WHAT HAD BEEN SPOKEN BY JEREMIAH? 30 PIECES OF SILVER FOR THE POTTERS FIELD (Judas)
Matthew 27:46; Mark 15:34-Psalm 22:1 my God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Luke 4:18-Isaiah 61:1,2 THE YEAR OF THE LORD’S FAVOR
Luke 22:37-Isaiah 53:12 AND HE WAS NUMBERED WITH TRANSGRESSORS
John 2:17-Psalm 69:9 ZEAL FOR YOUR HOUSE HAS CONSUMED ME
John 6:44-Isaiah 54:13 AND THEY SHALL BE TAUGHT BY THE LORD
John 12:38-Isaiah 53:1 WHO HAS BELIEVED WHAT HE HAS HEARD FROM US?
John 13:18-Psalm 41:9 EVEN MY CLOSE FRIEND HAS LIFTED HIS HEEL AGAINST ME
John 15:25-Psalm 35:19 OR 69:4 THEY HATED ME WITHOUT A CAUSE
John 19:24-Psalm 22:18 THEY DIVIDE MY GARMENTS AND CAST LOTS FOR MY CLOTHES
John 19:28 DOESNT SAY, “I thirst” looks like PSALM 69:21 OR 22:15
John 19:36-Exodus 12:46/Numbers 9:12 (i think it’s Psalm 22) NOT ONE OF HIS BONES WILL BE BROKEN
John 19:37-Zechariah 12:10 THEY WILL LOOK ON HIM WHOM THEY HAVE PIERCED
(Messiah in Hebrews):
1:5 & 5:5 Psalm 2:7 YOU ARE MY SON, TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU
1:5 2 Sam 7:14 I’LL BE TO HIM A FATHER AND HE’LL BE TO ME A SON
1:6 Deut. 32:43 BOW DOWN TO HIM, ALL GODS “Let all God’s angels worship him.”
1:8 Psalm 45:6,7 YOUR GOD HAS ANOINTED YOU WITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS
1:10 Psalm 102:25-27 YOU LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH…
2:6 Psalm 8:4-6 YOU MADE HIM FOR A LITTLE WHILE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS
2:11 Psalm 22:22 I WILL TELL OF YOUR NAME TO MY BROTHERS
2:13 Isaiah 8:18 BEHOLD I & THE CHILDREN GOD HAS GIVEN ME
5:6, 7:17, 7:21 Psalm 110:4 YOU’RE A PRIEST FOREVER, AFTER THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK
8:8, 10:15, 10:17 Jeremiah 31:31-34 I’LL ESTABLISH A NEW COVENANT WITH ISRAEL & JUDAH I’LL REMEMBER THEIR SIN NO MORE
10:37 Habakkuk 2:3,4 THE COMING ONE WILL COME & WON’T DELAY; MY RIGHTEOUS ONE SHALL LIVE BY FAITH incomplete
11:17 Genesis 21:12 THROUGH ISAAC SHALL YOUR OFFSPRING BE NAMED (old & new covenants)
This is why I respect Ben Shapiro, because he shows how respectfuly he can talk, to people he disagrees with
I'm a Christian and I have nothing but love and respect for the Jews and the daily wire
According to the gospel and the spirit we are family. I wonder if Ben thinks we are?
I doubt the chosen feel the same towards you. You're a useful idiot
@Scratching Beyond The Surface: My love and admiration of you and your faith are without hesitation. As a member of the Jewish faith, but more importantly as an American, I'm thankful that my family came more than a century ago to this Christian majority nation, where Judeo-Christian principles provide the backbone for a just and civil society, yet still provide the flexibility for greatness to have blossomed.
Haha. Look at history. Jews hate us. And we hate them
How do jews view the Talmud? Is it a book to live by? Because to me thats the only thing I have a problem on first glance... You know, the zionist side of it.
All who are believers - let’s pray for Ben’s salvation.
It's been 6 days. So far, nothing. Time to get a hobby instead of trying to run other peoples lives.
Ben deceives you
Ginny C ... Amen, I agree. And also for Mr MacArthur. He has some off the wall interpretations of scripture and doctrine.
@@itsnotatoober
That's awesome lol
Love this! Thank you for actually reminding us the power of prayer. That’s how I became a Christian and it’s only ever been the best choice I’ve ever made. Praise God!
I love that Ben let’s John articulate his points fully with out interruption, really respectful dialogue between these two. I’d love to see another conversation between them!
Jesus is what Zachariah said because He is the Word of God.
Ben keeps bringing up the fact that the NT echoes things in the OT...well yeah, it is a cohesive story. Would we expect them to contradict each other if they were both truly inspired by God?
@Jessica John Also, the point of the Law was to stress the gravity of spiritual death over mere physical death. For one, Jews were to burn animals as sacrifices, those animals that pagans elsewhere likely worshipped.
@SmoothJK Well the general view in the Jewish community of Christianity comes from approx. 1500 years of off and on persecution from Christendom. Roman catholicism went to Jerusalem during the crusades between 1100 and 1300 and slaughtered the Jewish people that lived there and claimed the Holy Land as theirs. In the early 1000's up to the 1500's various countries in Europe declared edicts of expulsion telling the Jews to "get out" or be killed. Spain told them to convert to catholicism, get out or die. All the while the religious organizations were pushing replacement theology claiming the church replaced the Jews as G-d's chosen people (contrary to scripture). So modern day Jews think Christianity is a gentile cult... honestly. What happens is, some Jews end up reading the new testament and they see how truly Jewish the entire new testament actually is! Thus we end up being Messianic Jews, believing Yeshua (Jesus) is the Messiah.
@@89rscam indeed..
Aren't there a few contradictions in the bible as a whole though?
@@Dilmahkana If you take it line by line (or specific quotes) then yes. As a whole no.
I like this, I like Ben too. Hope his eyes are opened by the mercy of God for him to see that Jesus is the Ultimate Lamb.
Elias Håkansson Jesus Himself is the Truth. The Ultimate Truth of the universe is to know the fullness of God. To know exactly who God is, is to know the Truth.
Elias Håkansson well, yeah. What do u think happens when u find the truth of God? What would u do? Say? Etc.
Elias Håkansson u don’t believe that there is a God out there? Or do u believe there is no God? So are u an atheist or an agnostic?
Elias Håkansson ok, yeah. U believe in like a “Higher Power”, but don’t believe in religion. That’s what I’m understanding. Is that right?
Let's hope he stays as far away from that.wolf in sheep's clothing as possible...
1 John 2:22 (KJV) Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Yes, absolutely. But, I think Ben is at least making an attempt to get to know about Jesus and that is a good start. Join in prayer with myself and others for him, that the Lord would continue to show him the truth. God wishes for us all to be saved
what a blessing to see the gospel being shared with Ben by one of the wisest teachers in the church. This brought tears to my eyes.
Here's the difference......Caiaphas asked Jesus point blank at His trial....."Are YOU the Messiah, the Son of God"........And the Lord answered.........I AM
either you believe Him....or you don't
Topsey Kretts why did you capitalize “I AM”? Are you trying to say that Jesus is God? Because “Messiah” and “son of God” are both titles referring to the Davidic King. Responding “I am” to the question “Are you?” is merely starting that the question is correct. It doesn't make someone God.
"I AM" most certainly WAS a claim to divinity!!! It is a reference back to the great "I AM" statement to Moses, when he asked God's name. Try again
@@imagomonkei
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, *I am.* John 8:58
Very very good compliment. I Am....
YOU need to understand who I AM is
Isaiah 53!!!
Amen!!
Amen
And then, the Gospel of John.
The suffering servant in Isaiah 53 is Israel, just like in Isaiah 41 & 43.
Read Isaiah chapter 1 thru 52 then you will know who the real suffering servant is. Which is NOT JC. Highly recommend watch Rabbi Micheal Skobac for jews for judaism on Isaiah 53.
Jesus is the Messiah. I believe in the testimony of the Apostles in the Bible.
A Huge amount of respect to Ben Shapiro for even having this discussion. God bless him, and all of us!
He really put some solid facts there. It is true the morals are pretty much the same, for it's the same God. Jesus really doesn't deny the Old Testament. And Ben is right, He draws from the late prophets in much.
But the pastor got the point. The difference is not exactly at the morals but who is Jesus? Is He Who He says He is?
Jesus is the FULFILLMENT of the law. Us Gentile Christians are grafted into the family through Christ. Remember we are adopted brothers and sisters of our Hebrew kin.
Jesus set the bar higher. For example he said not simply to love one another as one loves themselves, but gave a new commandment that we as Jesus loved us, that is a willingness to be a martyr to save others.
Ultimately we find that Jesus was before the prophets! The inspired writers in speaking the very words of God really received second hand from God's eternal plan!
I’m actually not a huge fan of JM for various reasons, but he did answer this question correctly....and, surprisingly so. Many, too many, popular pastors fall into the trap of focusing on behavior or worship instead of what the NT already tells us is the only difference.
Alexandre why dont you ask god if jesus is who he says he is? Proverbs 30 v4: who has gone up to heaven and come down? Who has wrapped up the waters in his cloak? Who established the ends of the earth? What is his name and the name of his son? Tell me if you know! Then read isaiah 53 and pray and ask is tbis really speami.g about jesus? There is no harm in inquiring about his word and he is faithfull to answer quicly as it is a salvation matter
From watching Ben in this, I'm reminded of that moment where Jesus asks Peter, "But who do you say that I am?"
Even if you could go back in time, obtain documentary footage, be in Jesus' presence, or even live your life in the role of Peter, your answer to that question would require faith.
If Ben finds the teachings of Jesus to be consistent with those of the prophets, then what is keeping him from having faith in Jesus being who He says that He is? Does Ben not even have faith in the words of the prophets in his own teachings, such as Isaiah 53 and Psalms 22?
Gutslinger because Gods word says they (the Jews) have had their hearts hardened for the moment.
Rom. 11:25 Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written,
Paula Wallace Zch. 12:10 And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn.
@@Saltydre Wonderful Bible text, Andre!
Because Ben doesn't believe the Old Testament. Jesus said to the Jews in John 5:45-47 that if they truly believed Moses, they would have believed Jesus.
Any 'Jew' who rejects Jesus has just showed they never believed the Old Testament to begin with.
TheStockCarStig Romans 11:25 Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
This interview really speaks to the honor and wisdom of both of these men.
The only time I see Ben listens to someone with peace
Jesus Christ is the Messiah.
He is indeed
Chris23LH _ NO HE IS NOT! many have been deceived.
Please see my post and pray that your eyes see and heart receive a ‘BOMBSHELL’ revealed by the HOLY SPIRIT from the story of Chanukah
@@Aeon1019 doesn't matter what people say, there knees will bow when he returns
Chris23LH _ We Muslims agree.
I am the messiah
I’ve listened to John MacArthur for thirty plus years now. And in that time, I can honestly say that he has represented Jesus Christ with the utmost respect and integrity that I have ever seen. I have gobbled up loads of his books tape ministry over the years and have grown so much in my relationship with Christ. Thanks John for serving Christ so faithfully!
One day, Ben Shapiro will be a Christian. I truly believe it.
Jew and Gentile grafted in together as prophesied.
Maltelaurids2007 I feel it too. But God is letting him have his moment so his power can be greatly shown.
Amen!
@Mad Dog Avraham Arrogant people fall very low. Instead read about other religions with an open heart. I hope you find the truth and accept it.
You mean a Messianic Jew?
Man, praise God for the grace he gave Pastor Mac Arthur to speak
Judaism teaches mans sin is a action and word problem. Christianity teaches that sin is a heart peoblem.
Judaism teaches that sin is a heart problem, and that your actions and words are the proof of what is in your heart. We dont need JC to reveal some inner wisdom that Jews supposedly missed. Every moral teaching in the gospels is word for word copied from the RABBINIC teachings that you all claim to hate so much. The only unique ideas the guy ever had were the times when the gospels reveal him acting in what you call sin - something he did on many occasions.
Mad Dog Avraham, you do know that David never apologized to Bathsheba for killing her husband, but that he cried out to God for forgiveness.
@@jessicakresge2658 a man isn't allowed to marry a woman in Jewish culture unless she voluntarily agrees to it and finds him attractive, pregnant or not. So in order for David to have married Bathsheba, she had to have forvigen him and decided to marry him, whether we think that a good choice or not. Many things are not in the text, as the Tanakh gives only a basic outline of each story and law. That is what Oral Torah is for, to help fill in the gaps. Just because David prayed doesn't mean there was no forgiveness between he and Bathsheba once she saw how sorrowful he was for his actions.
@Mad Dog Avraham Where did you get that from? Please show me. There's no way for the average sinner to find most of the people he has sinned against over a lifetime. Surely you can find living family members and lifelong friends, but most people would be hardpresssed to go too much beyond that. So we ask Jesus for forgiveness and live holy out of gratitude for His sacrifice.
Mad Dog Avraham - You might want to read Isaiah 53.
Fantastic, I was praying for an interview like this. I never knew Ben Shapiro knew the New Testament as well.
The pastor was so eloquent and loving too, I could feel the love of God in his voice. That's how we bring people to the truth, it's God's kindness that leads to repentance, not the vile comments I've read here. Don't let your love grow cold my brothers and sisters.
He doesn't really know the New Testament tbh. I think he just knows it to a degree, like maybe he read some bits of the Gospels.
J M ... yeah, he only knows it. I can know the whole bible and still be lost. That little black Jewish hat on his head, all it is, is a outward religious symbol of being Jewish, nothing more. It doesn't mean he has a relationship with God personally. If he doesn't see Jesus having divinity, he's 100% spiritually blind and ignorant, he's basically wrong and spiritually lost. Don't get me wrong, I Like Ben Shapiro, he's a smart well informed eloquent dynamic speaker, and debates with such confidence, and just utterly annihilates his opponents, the guy is extremely awesome in his craft, love him. But at the same time, sadly, he's spiritually ignorant. Hopefully some day he will come to see the light. And I have to say the same for Mr MacArthur.
@@bobbyrodriguez8270 well said my brother. I do believe God's Word will not come back void, and will accomplish all He sent it to do.
We definitely need to keep praying for him, only God can make the the truth grow in his heart.
Although that hasn't happened yet, I'm just grateful that the seed has been planted. But it could also be a sad story if he is like the pharisees who heard Jesus and did not repent, I understand.
Thankfully, our job as Christians is to share the truth in love, then trust God for the rest.
@@bobbyrodriguez8270 "I like Ben Shapiro he's a smart well informed dynamic speaker" You really need more discernment and wisdom dude. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing, his job is to get you to think he is smart and "likeable" while he lies and denies Christ. This is exactly what the devil does, a great deceiver.....
Absolutely love the work Ben's doing. He is truly a great mind! He might be the next Lee Stroebel case...
My heart is full with joy that you would put this clip up Ben. Thanks you
Jesus is Gods only begotten son, whoever believes in him will not perish but have eternal life!!!!!!!
What about God's other sons ??
J. B. “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”
Isaiah 9:6 ESV
There are sons of God but the is only one Son of God.
The word "begotten" has been ripped out the bible passage as a fabrication and an interpolation.
@@crescentandstarglory God is God. Jesus is God in Mans form. God created the world. Then created people. He Got upset with hownthe people became so he flooded the Earth to start over. He still loved people and wanted to give them a chance to spend eternity with him. So as a sacrafice he sent Jesus as a sacrafice so that you and I may have a chance at eternal life as long as we believe in Jesus and believe that he dies and was reserected. God sacraficed himself in man form to relate to us in the hope that we would accept his gift of salvation.
WOW did you just make that up.😎
Ben is so close to the truth it hurts!!!! I believe his amazing intellect and desire for the truth (fleshed our very well in his political mind) will lead him to believe the truth about Jesus as the Christ.
If Ben becomes a christian..... then everyone looking to debate him on anything needs to just run and hide. 😂
I think you are reading into something that is not there. Don't hold your breath.
Just pray.
@Anthony StrongLOL, imbecile....
I suspect that if he accepts truth, he is in danger of losing everything...maybe that's what is subconsciously holding him back
@@beetlebayley5237 It's YOUR "truth" not his .... That's the problem with some Christians, they not only believe this (which is fine) but they want EVERYONE ELSE to believe it too. It bolsters their belief.
Now see how that differs from Judaism where no Jew will take exception with the belief system of anybody else. One does not need to be Jewish to go to heaven according to us. You just need to be a good person essentially. I guess Jews are just more confident in our belief system ....
I really have respect for Ben for posting this on his channel. He's prepared to show the true difference between Judaism and Christianity, even though he hasn't got to know Jesus as Saviour (and I pray it will just be a manner of time, for I admire his character and wisdom).
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Ben, you really need to discuss theology and Christianity in general with Eastern Orthodox Christian theologians, teachers, and scholars. My personal favourite list would include Prevestera Dr. Jeannie Constantinou, Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick, Fr. Josiah Trenham (he's in California already!), Dr. Clark Carlton, Fr. A. James Bernstein (a convert from Orthodox Judaism), Fr. Michael Oleksa, Dcn. Michael Hyatt, Fr. John Behr (of St. Vladimir's Seminary in NY), Metropolitan Kallistos Ware (formerly Timothy Ware), Metropolitan Tikhon of the OCA, Fr. Theodore Paraskevopoulos, Steven Christoforou, Abbot Tryphon, Fr. Barnabas Powell, Frederica Mathewes-Green, Jonathan Pageau (who is friends with Jordan Peterson)...and many more.
Also reading would be good. Contemporaries I suggest would be Thomas Hopko of blessed memory, Alexander Schmmeman of blessed memory, Fr. John Behr, Fr. Andrew S. Damick, Fr. A. James Bernstein ("Surprised by Christ"; About an Orthodox Jew converting to Orthodox Christianity), Met. Kallistos Ware/Timothy Ware....there are many others, but my lists for you are already large!
Also the early church fathers: St. Ignatius of Antioch, St. Irenaeus of Lyons, St. Cyprian of Carthage, St. Polycarp of Smyrna, St. Nicholas of Myra, St. John of Damascus/Damascene, St. Basil the Great, St. Gregory the Great Pope of Rome, St. John Chrysostom, St. Athanasius (start with "On The Incarnation"), Gregory of Nazianzus, St. Justin Martyr to start off with.
And others: St. Mark of Ephesus, St. Tikhon of Zadonsk, the Protoevangelium of James, The Didache, St. Ambrose, St. Jerome, St. Clement of Alexandria, Sts. Cosmos and Damian, St. Cyril of Alexandria, St. Cyril of Jerusalem, St. Ephrem the Syrian, St. Gregory of Nyssa, St. Leo the Great Pope of Rome.
Loved this so much! Please have him back!
John MacArthur is a fantastic pastor and teacher. God has given him some amazing gifts for teaching his generation. His ministry, Grace To You (gty.org), is known all over the world. They give seat every sermon ever done (over 40 years worth) plus a few books every year. Check out the YT channel, that alone could keep you busy for YEARS!!
I actually attend his church in Sun Valley and you’re correct. Listening to him preach is very humbling and the guy just crushes it every week!
Luke leaonard, YES!
I love this guy.. an awesome pastor
A DS I used to go to his church when I lived in Los Angeles.
John MacArthur is fantastic! One of my favorites!
@@Sandi216 the BEST!
Agree totally! He’s on my bucket list🙂
Peanut and Oreo Basset, what a blessing for you! I would love to meet him this side of eternity someday.
John is so amazing the way he is presenting Jesus ... so elaborate and simple.
John is a master at cutting straight to the chase, in a gracious way.
This was awesome! Props to the daily Wire for having a well versed theologian on the program
Even though this was likely cut from a longer interview, as a Christian I have to appreciate how unbiased this clip was, Ben. Even though you don't necessarily agree with all the pastor was saying I really appreciate that you listened so respectfully and didn't cut him off with your words or with the clip. God bless Ben and happy Hanukkah! :D
Honest Truth That’s one huge thing I love about Ben. He is like this with every interview or debate I have watched.
I wish that conversation could have gone on for hours.
The Bible isn't a series of disconected stories, but a great one that points towards Jesus!
Really like Pastor John MacArthur. Excellent interview.
I would like to hear a debate between Sen. Sanders and Mr. Shapiro. Possibly about politics, health care, and quality of life in America.
Muda Le I would too but Shapiro would tear him to pieces and he knows it. He would never come on.
Ben Shapiro DESTROYS old leftist and TAKES his medicaid away
“ when he walked he took are sin away “ he said “ Iam “ the truth the way and the life “ no one comes to the father except thru me “ the creator of this universe “ is he “
I would be very interested in hearing Ben's response to Pastor MacArthur's statements. Ben says Jesus was a great teacher; Pastor MacArthur (quoting C.S. Lewis and likely others before him) rightfully says that as someone upending the law, claiming to be one with God and able to forgive sin, Jesus is either divine or a lunatic - and there's no middle ground. So how does Ben respond to that?
I have heard Ben respond to this and essentially he believes that the New Testament is not historically accurate. He does not believe Jesus said He and the Father were One, and he also believes Jesus was put to death as a Rabbi who was leading an uprising against the Romans.
Ben answered this. You just don't like the answer. Jesus was a rabbi with some unconventional, even heretical beliefs.
Marc Hess, a lot of Jewish people believe that, and obviously Christians believe otherwise. I think both Jews and Christians need to stop trying to talk down on each other. Even when Ben states his beliefs, he is extremely courteous towards Christians and always stands up for them. Just as I, as a Christian, always stand up for the Jewish people and Israel
@@marchess7420 But without Jesus's divinity, what assurance does Ben, or anyone, have of heaven, much less a way of getting there? If there's no new covenant in Jesus' blood, shouldn't orthodox Jews still be sacrificing animals after every sin? (Do they? I don't actually know.)
@@Gdhdjdjdjs Because the antichrist of Daniel- the Abomination of Desolation will lead the jewish people astray and sit as "Messiah" in their temple- which is what Jesus, and everyone else throughout the whole of the Scriptures referencing the Day of the Lord and His wrath spoke. In reality if you can not keep the whole of the law (even the truncated law) you are guilty of violating the whole thing, only the death of the high priest could atone for those in sanctuary cities. The Word of God does not contradict itself/Himself.
I hope Ben takes a good long dive into his faith and the Christian faith. And ponders on truth.
A messianic jew should really reach out to him. I hope he finds Christ. It's a shame, because if he were to leave judaism - it'd really betray a lot of his jewish fanbase. Oh, I feel for him. It's difficult, but it's choice he must make if he wants eternal life.
@Robert hinton jr no. Cancer is cancer. Sin is morality subjugated to the masses to control people. And to demonize those that dont follow suit. Critical thought is the enemy of religion. Once you start questioning, you are harder to control.
"And ponders on truth"
That would make him an atheist.
@TheTomcat1990 people go to Hell as the punishment for sins. Not because they didnt believe. Hell is the necessary punishment from a perfectly just God. If you disagree its because you are blind to your own sins. Think about how many thousands of times we look with lust, hate our brother, use Gods name in vain, covet what others have Etc. Etc. Etc.
Our sins are stacked above our head and we have no remedy to make things right. Which is why God came down to live as a man and die an innocent death in place of others.
@@reptiliancow if sin is some created idea, try not sinning for one day. One hour. Try not looking with lust, not coveting, not lying, not using Gods name in vain, perfectly honoring your parents and loving God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength. We cant, we are corrupted by sin. Which is why we need a savior. One who is innocent and could take the wrath of God on our behalf.
John MacArthur. Hands down the greatest expositor of scripture of our time. I can’t tell you how many of his sermons I have listened to over the past 9 years but one thing I know for sure is that he doesn’t compromise the Word of God. Over 50 years of every sermon he has every preached is recorded and free to listen to anytime on GTY.ORG. If you have questions I’m positive you can find them there
Are you familiar with N.T. Wright?
J Cooper7
Does he keep the 4th commandment or the popes day?
There’s this other guy that goes by the name RC Sproul, I heard he’s not too shabby either. 😂
@@will95515
Yes, true, but he has went on to be with the Lord & on the Ligonier ministries website you can only listen to a few of the series, but have to pay for the rest (haven't been on the website as much). So forgive me if I'm wrong about the website
As a calvanist, he does compromise the Word of God. He denies that Jesus died for all, for starters. He is a wolf, but is quite convincing.
Ben, would you consider interviewing Barry Bennett from Charis Bible College on this topic?
So want to hear Ben's comeback at the end...
Never lose sight of the fact that Christians and Jews have much more in common than that which separates them. In fact, the great divide in the US continues to be more between secularists vs. those of faith, as opposed to the antiquated divisions between religions.
I really need to watch Ben interview Lee Strobel! That would be awesome!
Although popular, Jeff Durbin or Sye Ten Bruggencate would be better, I think.
*Gasps* Yes! I would love that!
Lee Strobel will lose on the Sabbath issue....
Youd be wasting your time
As a believer in Christ, as well as one with great respect and compassion for Ben, I will be in prayer for him. MacArthur is a special teacher, a blessing to many, this was a wonderful conversation to watch and hear.
Love this segment. It’s precisely what C S Lewis says in an essay called “what are we to make of Jesus Christ?” Highly recommend the read
It's a weird day to have him on, on the first night of Hanukkah.
Why is that so strange? It's also the first day of Advent, and the first day of the Year, (the Year of Grace) for Catholics. Happy New Year! and Happy Hanukkah!
ScreamToASigh חג שמח! אני ישראלי ושומע את בן בקביעות 😊
@@user-jz4iz2qh9u חנוכה שמח! אני אמריקאית. גם אני שומעת אותו כמעט מדי יום (יומי?). אני לומדת עברית עם דואולינגו.
@@screamtoasigh9984 חחח אחלה עברית!
Hi Scream! Just listened to "Bohemian Chanukah". I enjoyed it very much! I am very familiar with the Books of the Maccabees as we have them in our Bible too. Perhaps you know an Advent song of Catholics,( as it is also very Jewish): "O come, O come, Emmanuel , and ransom captive Israel, that mourns in lonely exile here..." This is where we are at the beginning of our New Year. Have a wonderful Hannukah! Peace!
man this is such a great conversation. john mac and ben are both awesome.
Wow wonderful conversation. Nice to see Ben talking with MaCarthur
I was thinking "I wish Ben could talk to MacArthur someday" when I heard he explained why he did not believe in the trinity and then this video pop up. Amazing
Hey Ben, as a devout Catholic, I would like to see you debate Trent Horn or Jimmy Akin from Catholic Answers about the merits of Rabbinical Judaism as compared to Catholicism and even generic Christianity. I love the Catholic Faith, and you’re an extremely intelligent man, and so are people like Trent or Jimmy, and I’d love to see you leave politics for a bit and debate religion with them. I obviously am on their side, and I want to know why someone as intelligent as you believes in a religion that I find unreasonable compared the Catholic Faith, despite Judaism’s own merits. I’d really like to see it. If you ever read this, please consider the idea. I think it would be really interesting
Now that's an INTERVIEW!! Fantastic enjoyed it.
These comments are so funny. I'm like Ben Shapiro laughing over here @2:20 ... I used to be a pentecostal Christian, realized the truth 5 years ago and now converting to Judaism.
realized The Truth ? are you sure ? and by the way how does one "Convert" to something ?
I would also suggest getting the "Orthodox Study Bible" which uses the Septuagint numbering, book order, and names. It's filled with a large bunch of commentary on scriptures from and Eastern Orthodox perspective.
_Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us._
MATTHEW 1 : 23
Jesus fulfilling the sacrificial law paying the sin debt of the world for all who will accept it makes the difference
I don't know how Jews, after all this time and study of the old testament, can not see the plan laid out there fulfilled in Christ. You can almost give the Jews of that time a pass, but how much clearer can it get?
From what I gather, the only reason modern Jews can read the Bible and reject Jesus is due to modern Jewish propaganda, such as the view that the Book of Daniel is not canon, believing it was written much later in an attempt to denounce Daniel's prophecy that the Messiah would come before the destruction of the Second Temple. The same goes for a lot of the other prophecies.
@@geemac7267 I don't know how people can believe in human parthenogenesis.
Gee Mac72 Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written,
JC didn't fulfill world peace did he ...
Ben is well practiced in telling Christians what they want to hear.
Explain?
Its like a Baptist listening a Roman Catholic.....listening is not agreeing.
Tim Millward Hmm
josh portie or maybe what he wants to hear...
He's a Zionist, he's mastered the art of deception
“And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: *_and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced_* , and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.”
Zechariah 12:10
I think Ben needs to speak with Brant Pitre, as Ben is a scholar of the old testament and the typology within the Eucharist, Mary etc from the old to the new testament is undeniable I think it would be an amazing conversation and would like to see Ben's reaction to the concept of the 4th cup and Mary as the new ark etc.
how undignified, crass, vulgar and outrageously rude some of the comments below are just after we had watched the way two kings act when they agree to meet with each other for the first time each showed such nobility of soul it was a veritable feast of mutual respect we should always remember their example
Respectful dialogue. The world needs more of this...
It’s almost always had it on the individual level with Christian’s and Jews. That other abrahamic religion though… yeah they’re not exactly as civil as the rest of us
I've been listening to Ben and his political views for a while now and I just love the guy. As a Christian, I appreciate that he was being very respectful in this conversation even though he may not have agreed with the other guy's view. Ben is a very smart guy and he should run for president in 2024
enjoyed this interview... praise God for both these men . John MacArthur has been used of God and I am so thankful for his integrity and faithfulness to proclaim our Savior's love and the plan of salvation...through Christ...
Love these kind of guests, they elevate the show above the worldly transitory philosophies of people that don't have the advantage of have the amazing extra dimension of spirituality.
Jesus Christ fulfilled the Law. Christianity is the fulfillment of Judaism. There is no separation between the two, only a progression.
Not if you're Jewish. In Judaism there is a very significant separation between Judaism and Christianity.
I know Jews (I’m speaking of those who don’t believe Jesus Christ is the Messiah) disagree with my claim. I have nothing but love and respect for all Jews, even the ones who would not feel the same toward me. And I get it. They wouldn’t think I’m part of the people of God, and they might think I worship a false god. At the very least, they would think I missed it on the Messiah. The problem is they don’t know Him. I do. They may know about Him. They may have opinions about Him. But I know Him. My original statement was a statement of fact. No opinions can change it, and no reasoning can replace my experience.
@@DelbertTritsch If we love Jesus, we will keep his commandments. That includes the 7th day Sabbath.
He fulfilled the law to be the perfect sacrifice. We are still called to uphold the law now .
“Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.”
Romans 3:31
No brothers after Jesus died his blood initiated the convenant of the spirit in which those who believed became under supervision of the spirit.
not picking sides but its always good to see someone go head to head with ben
Simple fact, unless God is at work changing the heart, man can't be saved...this holds true with all humans.
I love this quote by EW Bullinger.
It has been well said:
“The gospel has lost none of its ancient power. It is, as much today as when it was first preached, ‘the power of God unto salvation.’ It needs no pity, no help, and no handmaid. It can overcome all obstacles, and break down all barriers. No human device need be tried to prepare the sinner to receive it, for if God has sent it, no power can hinder it; and if He has not sent it, no power can make it effectual.”
-Dr. E. W. Bullinger (1837-1913)
Wonderful to see John McArther conversing with Ben.
Jesus taught & was under the Law. Today's Christian starts after the cross of Christ. Paul is the main person behind Grace through Faith which is the gospel to the Gentiles. We were never under the Law, we never knew the Law, but we are under Grace, Jesus Christ died for our sins. & rose again for our justification. This is not taught under the Law, Jesus died for the curse of the Law. Paul even speaks different than the 12 Apostles, Acts 15 show the argument of Grace through Faith vs. Legalism of the Law. Galatians Chpt. 1 also shows we are believers by hearing the Word of God, & not of works of the Law. Romans 10:9-10 is if we confess Jesus & believe in our heart that God rose him from the dead we would be saved.
I agree with you.
It was required that Jesus should walk under the law. It is by his blood that he initiated a new convenant
since the beggining FAITH was required.
Hebrews 11.
I love John. He did a great job getting right to the heart of it. I pray for Bens salvation.
John 14:6 (KJV) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
What an amazing sight to see these two great and respected men together. The older teaching the younger. This is precious!!!! God is working!!!
Ben is still with the pharisees
He is Jewish, and his holist book is the Talmud (which is some piece of work)
Raditz Sayayin how many pharisees have you met. And the Torah holds every law which Yeshua expounded on. Love your neighbor is alot older than Yeshua. All that unjustified hate must really give you people alot of comfort. Fools.
Pharisee is a historical word for all observant Jews in the world. It wasnt invented by some JC nor was it ever a cuss word that means hypocrites except among the Romans and their conquered converts. These are the type of comments you get when people take things they dont understand out of context and attempt to own it.
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Phar·i·see
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noun
a member of an ancient Jewish sect, distinguished by strict observance of the traditional and written law, and commonly held to have pretensions to superior sanctity.
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I dont know much about Judaism and their reasons on why they dont believe Jesus is christ but i do know what he has done for me and the great love he showed me. Thats why I believe he is the messiah.
Beautiful conversation
You know what I'm slightly envious of is judaism's emphasis on action rather than belief I guess I align with saint James more than I do paul the apostle."He said faith without works is dead".I firmly believe Christians being content with faith has made as apathetic to the suffering going on around us we need to act what we do and don't do matters.
Jesus is God in the flesh Ben, he died on the cross for you and you deny his divinity?
@Ghastly Grinner To be fair, all sinners are responsible for Jesus' death. Not just the sins committed from the Fall of Adam and Eve to those of his time, but those sins in the generations after Christ, every sin committed today, tomorrow, and until the end of time...ALL OF THOSE weighed upon the God-Man during his agony in the Garden of Gethsemane. The Jews and the Romans were just the ones who applied death directly and there are certainly special consequences for that, no doubt.
AMEN
@Dana Johnson To elaborate a little further Orthodox Jews are monotheistic, they only believe in one God. For God to have any child would be a contradiction to this.
@Dana Johnson There are messianic jews. Reemeber, jews are a race and relgion. Ben can be a Christian but jew in blood. The Bible does talk about it, hence the differnce btween gentiles and jews. Jews are special people in God's eyes, it's a shame how so many have fallen away - espcially the above all disgraceful secular jews.
How would a Jew recognize the divinity of Yeshua when Christianity has ardently pushed the narrative that "Jesus" did away with the law (Torah)? They know that the true Messiah would have kept the Torah! What they don't understand is that, in fact, Yeshua did keep the Torah.
Ah! I just watched the whole interview and it is fantastic. A truly great meeting of the minds :-)
I'm glad he got John McArthur, guy knows his stuff.
I like Shapiro's discussion topics a lot. He seems very open minded, educated, and free! John MacArthur was a great guest for that discussion. The chosen topic was extremely interesting, brave and enjoyable to listen. I am happy that I can watch shows like "The Daily Wire" and be edified. MacArthur stated a great point, which made a clear sense.
Well done Shapiro and MacArthur!!! God Bless!!!
Two of my favorites.
Here's what I think: The point of the sermon on the mount was not to elevate the law, nor was it to change the law in any way, rather, Jesus was pointing out that according to the laws of morality that already existed (whether those revealed specifically to the Jews in Leviticus, or those written on the heart of every person that has ever existed) it is impossible to be justified before God...
When people who don't believe in Jesus talk about the sermon on the mount as a "beautiful moral teaching", I'm always like, "have you read it"... Jesus says some depressing things in there like, "if you call your brother foolish you're guilty of hellfire". What he's actually saying is the best you can possibly do in life is not going to cut it, because on the day when you stand in judgement before a perfectly just God, your list of good deeds is going to look like f@%#ing toilet paper...
Ben and John are both right when they say that morally speaking Christianity and Judaism are not different because... get this... the teachings of Jesus are not moral teachings. Jesus didn’t come to give another list of “do’s and don’ts” or more impossible expectations. He came to do what morality could not do, he came to make us right before God. You see, this is what Christianity is: it’s the news that Jesus, the son of God, came to earth to live a life in perfect accordance with all the requirements of morality, to die on our behalf as payment for our sin, and then to be resurrected from death, so that anyone who trusts in him for deliverance, will be made right before God.
When we trust in Jesus, we are no longer condemned by the laws of morality, because the dept that we owe for breaking those laws is paid for by the work of Jesus. Through his death and resurrection Jesus has provided a way for each of us to be free from the guilt, and the shame, and the fear... from the feeling of inadequacy and worthlessness, from the burden of expectations, from all the things that result from us trying and failing and trying and failing and trying and failing to reach that impossible ideal of morality. The Old Testament law is good and right, but if all we have is the law, then there is no hope of being restored to right standing with God. Which is why the news about Jesus is not in any way opposed to Judaism, rather, it is the final chapter of the Jewish faith, it is the fulfillment of everything the Jewish people have been looking for, for thousands of years… justification before God.
Anyway, what do you think?
oh... also... here's one of my favorite OT passages (Job speaking about God)... Job 9 : 32-35 "He is not a mere mortal like me that I might answer him,
that we might confront each other in court. If only there were someone to mediate between us, someone to bring us together, someone to remove God’s rod from me, so that his terror would frighten me no more. Then I would speak up without fear of him, but as it now stands with me, I cannot."
This makes a whole lot of sense, I just want to add/specify that the old testament law is still important to follow. I dont remember who it was off the top of my head but I remember Jesus saying "Go and sin no more", and there are many times where he speaks saying to follow the laws and that he did not do away with the laws. Though we as humans arent perfect, by attempting to follow the law and be obedient we are showing god that we love him and that, though we are imperfect, we want to learn to follow his ways. I personally feel this is a very important thing to remember when approaching the bible as a whole.
I don’t usually care for John MacArthur, but I’ve watched this interview several times. He presents the gospel so well!
Great stuff from John here. Shades of Lewis thrown in there. Well said.