I Drive The First Ever Electric Jeep Wrangler 4xe Off-Road - It's Weird And Wonderful!
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
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#Jeep #Wrangler #4xe
The loudest and quietest jeep of all time, comming out at the same time, its a very interesting decision. Haha! You have v8 on one hand, and flippin plug in hybrid EV on the other hand. CRAZY!
I think 21 miles in EV mode is fairly impressive when you consider someone buying this as their daily driver and weekend toy probably commutes under 20 miles each way to and from work during the week. I would save a fortune on gas switching to this (not including the additional electricity cost at the house, but still).
You guys gotta buy one of these. Great series around off-roading and electric cars. It would also be super cool to see what it would be like doing upgrades (maybe Mopar) and see what a lifted 4xe is like
mine will be lifted next week! only an inch tho to fit 34's
@@phillipberk5767 what lift
They should get one, as Roman seems like a real skeptic and I don’t think understands the vehicle. If they lived with the 4xe and a level 2 charger (which they already have) for a month or two, I bet his perspective would change.
Thanks for taking one for the team Roman. Hopefully the Wrangler 4xe had your back and took it out on the rocks!
I have the 2024 4xe Willy’s and we just truly love it and I have owned 5 different jeeps previously and this Willy’s truly awesome
Just picked up my Rubicon yesterday - so far, it seems well built and smooth. Can't wait to try it on trails!
Congrats & don’t forget to wave.
What does it have for skid plates? I've seen several UA-cam videos that say it's got full skid plates. I'm interested to see what they call skid plates. Lol. I have a ship date of 05/05 👍🏼
@@Dupreysdronezone Just like my JK, the transfer case, fuel tank and part of the trans get plates. There are new plates, basically a metal box, on the opposite side of the tank for the power electronics. Seems legit.
@@natesully1 nice! Thanks for the info. I can't wait to get my hands on mine. Enjoy
When you have some cash to spare, put a 4 inch lift on it and get some 35 inch or even 37 inch Nitto Grappler Tires (the EXO Grappler OR the Ridge Grappler) for your offroading needs. If your skid plates ever get bent or "ripped", there are other aftermarket boron steel or even TITANIUM skid plates you can put underneath to get even better bottom coverage.
In terms of extra gear, ALWAYS buy TWO extra 20 Gallon Jerry Cans you fix to the back of the Jeep for more fuel range AND I would suggest buying FOUR Go-Pro cameras with at least two 4 Gigabyte SSD external hard disk drives so you can RECORD 4K resolution 60 fps video from the front, back and sides of all your off-road adventures. The Go-Pro camera setup is ALSO used for grabbing that MILLION DOLLAR SET OF CRYSTAL CLEAR PHOTOS of a family of Sasquatches (i.e. Bigfoot) looking with envy at your cool new Jeep!
oh! I would also put a heavy duty WINCH and Bush Bars on the front of the Jeep in case you get stuck in a deep ditch or rut!
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Nice!
That plug in system looks like an upgrade to the one on my pacifica hybrid plugin. Some of the parts look identical, but that software had some features I do not have.
By far the COOLEST golf cart I've seen to date!
I would love an electric off roader. (where you can chose to use the battery when and where you want). When you are out in the wilderness "silence is golden". Creeping along with just the noise of the tires would scare away fewer animals, and you feel more connected to nature.
Τhen order a Cybertruck...
@@Seventh7Art way too ugly. Way too expensive. And i don't like teslas repair model, so i won't own a tesla till things change.
@@volvo09 Still, the Cybertruck has 16 inches of ground clearance, almost bullet proof, 0-60 mph in under 3 seconds and no need for diff lockers, low range, driveshafts or gears. It seems more off road capable than anything else on the market with the sole exception of Mercedes Unimog which is like a semi truck... plus it weighs 6 tonnes, costs 300k and has a top speed of only 70 mph.... It's more like a tractor, so it is not comparable.
@@Seventh7Art Unimogs are not the best choice in all terrains because they're too heavy and sink in soft ground. Lighter vehicles are better all-rounders in my opinion.
@@Seventh7Art if you have a cybertruck to sell me I'll buy it, but as it stands right now the cybertruck is vaporware
my dream car!!!! wrangler, range rover and g class are the best looking vehicles out there !
Just Empty Every Pocket (J.E.E.P.)
🙂 not untrue, however, the 4xe after the federal tax credit is actually cheaper than a similarly optioned out gas-only equivalent (but still expensive).
Roman taking hits for the team... Glad you're ok dude!
Best wishes for a speedy heal up. Shoes off road, like tires, make all the difference
Welcome to Texas, all season off roading here...except in the snow ❄😋
Really cool! Looking forward to have a Hybrid with e-fuel someday ! 🙌
To be honest after watching so many Bronco videos, now everytime i watch a wrangler clip it feels like a Nokia phone in the era of the Iphone. Can’t wait till you guys have your own Badland and start your amazing series of videos reviewing, comparing, testing to the limit and do what you do best ❤️👍
Love from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦💕
Seems to be a game changer... Keep the vids coming
I second the thoughts that the 4xe should be in the TFL fleet
They keep saying they are in the market for a jeep. It gotta be either this or the v8 for sure.
This is honestly a damn impressive vehicle for the price. I have zero doubt that it will be just as good as a regular Rubicon, but what I really want to know is how efficient this thing really is in the real world. I look forward to seeing your future tests!
See my responses to some of the other posts. It’s not going to be Prius level PHEV efficient, that is just impossible for a rolling brick. But I am getting a lot better gas mileage than the standard ICE Wrangler for short to mid range driving. My 60 mile commute I average 26 to 27 mpg, much higher when just tooling around town. Much less of a benefit at 100 miles or more between charges, but also great not having range anxiety as can always extend range by just adding gas.
I think the way to deal with those jeep charging stations is to time it with breaks or lunch so your not just sitting there bored. As charging and battery tech improves those stations will become more useful.
Remember that people that don't understand it's gonna throw it out of proportion
All of them know it's a hybrid so out of nowhere they won't bring fuel cans for the engine so they'll cry when the car doesn't run because it's depleted and empty and then post saying how much a pos it is when it's 100% user error
Plan for a gas only ride (extra fuel if needed) and look at any ability to charge up purely as a bonus.
I wish I could get this but it’s just slightly out of budget and yes I know incentives. My commute is like 7 miles Would’ve been perfect
An electric Wrangler for a 7 mile commute? Uh, okay. Sounds like a Nissan Leaf would probably be a better choice for you..
@@nickmotsarsky4382 jeep or nothing
@@nickmotsarsky4382 -A Nissan Leaf will not do the Rubicon trail. Or other fun spots. The Leaf is a tiny car too!
@@zxej6879 Most people buying brand new Wranglers won't ever take them offroad. They will commute in them, bolt on large tires, lightbars and angry eyes, mall crawl and take pics of them for IG.
@@nickmotsarsky4382 -Even if people only hit a ski resort once in a while. The 4wd is worth it. I have a house in sunny Southern California. Out in the high desert. It snows some winters. And the roads may be icy some nights. But there are times when I have pulled over to let a code 3 emergency vehicle pass. And what looked like solid ground is not. 4wd is required to get out without help.
On the practical side. A Jeep Wrangler will carry more than a Nissan Lief. And can tow.
I drive various electric, hybrid, and gasoline vehicles as part of my job. My employer offers free electric charging. The people that bought Nissan Leafs. Got rid of them quickly. One guy in 3 days. He got a Nissan Versa instead. That guy also owns a Jeep TJ, Ford F150, and a class A motorhome. He would select the 4xe over a Leaf.
While I'm not able to move from my 18 sport at the moment, once this technology matures more and the range is inevitably increased, I will be strongly considering one. My hopes is they are able to reach a minimum of 100 miles all electric and keep the hybrid configuration.
Yeah, exactly my thoughts seem a little early to be calling it an electric jeep, it is more of an upgraded etorque system.
@@Cody-gr2kc it's a,pretty intensely integrated system. It doesn't have a torque converter which is bananas. There are some really cool videos about the break down but wild none the less. I love my jeep but if jeep would take the cargo area and maybe eat into the floor back there as well, load it up with batteries and get that range up some more. That immediate heat due to the heater running off of electricity instead of the circulated coolant will be amazing in the winter. Pretty amazing time to be alive for technology.
Once manufacturers switch over to Aluminum-Air batteries that are safer and much higher power (i.e. 4x up to 8x more charge than Li-Ion) the range problems will go away. A higher end Aluminum-Air battery taking up the entire front end where the gas engine goes now and some space within a "skateboard" frame-rail assembly of a Jeep Rubicon level Wrangler, should allow it to go AT LEAST 1600 km (1000 miles!).
In about 5-to-7 years when newer formulations of the Aluminum-Air batteries start being tested in public, I expect the range to get into the 2500 km (1500 miles!) range on one charge!
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Roman putting some real skin in the game! Ouch! Glad it wasn't worse. Looking forward to your future tests with a 4xe back in Colorado. Hopefully without the worker's comp claims...
My kids had one of these twenty years ago, Power Wheel Brand I think.
Probably had the same range too!
Did their powerwheels have 375 horsepower?
@@gondorian1006 Yes, scaled to their weight, and much more reliable too.
@@Ultrafrozen I seriously doubt that. Powerwheels don't come with a 3-4 hp motor. It is a 12v motor that draws 20-30 amps, that's less than half a horsepower.
@@gondorian1006 but that half HP was Magical, I'm surprised they don't own Jeeps now.
21 miles is not much distance but thats a great power source for camping.
Does it have a plug for connecting to?
If you have a daily commute that's 10 miles each way, or 20 miles with a charger at the office, it's a game-changing amount of electric range. It's definitely not for everyone though.
@@ethanholshouser5648 daily errands and commute is a selling point for most PHEV cars and SUVs but I dont think its a point of conversation for selling a jeep.
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@@b22chris it has an onboard 12v system that is kept topped off by the 17kw battery. Not sure if that topping off is all the time or just when the vehicle is in run or acc mode (will have to dig into the manual more).
TFL did a range test with the Wrangle 4xe which achieved 26 miles and change with highway and city combo driving. Impressive
Your ouch is exactly why I prefer to drive in that territory vs walk. Always safer in a 4x4. Take my money! Thanks guys.
@Kaiser Ronnie oh gr8 the next insta hack
Can't wait for my sting gray Rubi 4xe to arrive in a month or so 🙄✌
Good color choice.
That’s my color - have had mine (gas powered Rubi) for 2 years & still love it.
Niceee, finally an offroad worthy hybrid, i loved the top trim though, even if its not a wrangler for the rocks looked very slick!!
Whats the point switching from gas and electric when the gas is still superior here? Looks like a gimmick to me.
to feel closer to the outdoors and it's quieter + electric torque is immediate
@@oogleboogle123456789 how much closer do you want to be when 4 wheeling? More torque is accomplished by low gears. If a first generation Toyota can do the rubicon then others should too. This is just a reason for non outdoor people to go outdoors try things they should try. Also contesting the trailhead with charge wait times. I don't see the point?
@@lmt9856 well when in nature the closer the better its the whole point right? and im sure a great deal of vehicles out there have does that mean we're done adding new stuff to them? and yes charge times would be bad but like all new things it can be improved
On the Jeep website, the Rubicon 4xe will start at $55,245 with the only option being paint, I dont want white paint. The Sahara starts at $51,545 with paint option. A Willys package with V6 starts at 41k.
$50,000ish? Good to know “going green” will be affordable to us blue collar slobs
I’ll stick to my 06 that leaks oil thank you
Jeeps have gotten way more expensive across the board in recent years, but after the tax credit this is actually cheaper than an equivalently-optioned gas Wrangler.
At least it’s not 75K like the 392...
Also, definitely more complicated and frankly defeats the purpose of owning a Jeep.
That expense is a general Jeep thing, not 4xe specific. With the federal tax credit, the 4xe is actually cheaper than a similarly optioned out gas only version.
you can get a Maverick
Very cool... But you'd be crazy to buy a 1st gen e/v
This is not first gen, they have a very similar system in the pacifica plug in hybrid that has been around for years.
Somebody has to or there would never be a second generation.
At the beginning when he cut his leg, I’ve done that before. I didn’t need stitches but boy did that hurt
I like the fact that you do not sacrifice any power (the keep the stock engine) just add electric to it. You can drive in stealth mode. Especially when coming onto a campsite after dark and you don't want to wake up the kids.
The advantage of an Hybrid in off road? Fuel economy. The fuel economy of a 100% powered ICE off roader, with this kind of power and torque, and in this kind of environment, is not really good, so I see this as a really good option to lower fuel costs. Well, and on road it gives really good numbers too. Oh, by the way, Roman : ouch!!! That hurts!!
@Ziplokk and? You have to watch a Comanche here in my country carrying two tons, that's weight, 700 is nothing vs the advantages that this technology gives. What I'm worried is about reliability, maybe there will be some problems that they will have to debug.
@Ziplokk for some components (tires and suspension) but electric reduces wear for others (regenerative braking greatly reduces wear on brakes) and engine (doesn’t have to rev as high due to electric boost and doesn’t have to run as often - seen some worried about transition to cold engine but software manages that so it’s not abrupt and warm up allowed).
Would be good to do a long term test of the 4xe
Seems like a baby step to something useful... :-)
Why don’t you think this is useful? I’m getting 26 to 27 mpg on my 60 mile commute. Pretty good for a brick on wheels. That is for a Rubicon 4xe with steel bumper group in 4h-auto. I get even better mileage outside of my commute because most of my driving outside of weekend trips is within 30 miles of home. I also have 375hp and 470lb of torque at my disposal (even when the battery is ‘depleted’ because it keeps 15% in reserve and does regenerative braking and charge from the engine when it’s running to feed the battery). I think it’s a very useful vehicle for anyone who’s average daily trip between charges is 100 miles or less. Over that the diesel might be a better choice.
@@davidcarrico3385 I stand corrected. .. :-)
You are right Tommy,you shouldn’t worry to much about the batteries getting water logged, curse they are in the cab underneath the back seats.👍🏻🇨🇦
With Chrysler’s electrical issues, I’d stay away from that😬
The water wasn’t deep enough. The rocks and crawling was nice. But how about driving in desert sands?? Most Jeep’s get stuck unless they have the lift and way larger tires they can run at lower pressure on bead lock wheels??
Now let’s talk aftermarket mods. My guess is this jeep was made for city people who want the look with some options. If it was me I’ll take a regular gas or diesel wrangler and mod it for I need. My final thoughts are: this won’t sell well if you can’t mod it for REAL off-road driving. On that note I look forward to seeing you guys test it in the real world.
In North Dakota (norte de Dakota)mountains this car will be good and practical.
The thing to do is to save battery for when the gas is low. I do not know how many times I have seen off roading channels run their jeeps out of fuel sometimes just miles from the gas station. Now comes this the little extra to get you there to you get fuel. I see it as an emergency device.
I hope Jeep let's you take this on the Rubicon trail.
I have my Rubicon 4xe on order. Can’t wait to get it, do some mods, and get it on some trails.
50% better fuel mileage and fast! Fantastic design!
Yeah that's what a lot of people are missing. And depending on you're daily commute/ charger at work those 21 miles are great in all electric
IKE TOW TEST PLEASE! You will be the First with any tow review-
I MUCH prefer the blue accents to the red accents you get with the regular Rubicon.
Me too & I have a Rubicon with the red. I wish Jeep did the interior dash in blue though (rather than the Sahara like stitching across the console).
Agreed
I'm sure it's okay if you live close to an area with a lot of trails.
Great video, but i think you should mute the music at some moments so we can listen the electric and tire sound 😍
It looks a so much more controllable with the power delivery of the electric motor. Ah wants one...
It’s not just fancy wranglers that are expensive… unfancy wranglers are also expensive!!
Looks like a fun spot to drive!
I love the idea of driving to work on electric. When and if I can ever afford to upgrade my JL Sport to this, I will.
My daily commute to and from work is 15.8 miles. I could literally drive everyday to and from work on electric only. That’s sweet 😂😂😂
Seems a little herky jerky running off-road. I like the blue accents on the white a lot better than on the red one.
Yeah white, Black, or dark charcoal grey are the best colors matches with that electric blue
Great to have y’all in Texas. Come back and see us for the Texas Spur Jeep Jamboree.
How fast does the Jeep lose power when exposed to cold weather?
The battery is in the passenger compartment and has its own heating and cooling system to optimize it and keep it in a temperature controlled environment. We’ll find out for sure next winter, but theoretically any cold or hot weather impact is only felt in first few minutes as it comes up to speed/temp. It doesn’t require the gas engine for heat(there is an electrical heater), but I wonder if the gas engine is kicked on to help expedite warming in extreme conditions.?…
Never though I’d see a electric off roader but here we are
I'm curious why you never thought you'd see an electric motor? Electric, and in this case hybrid, make the most sense for offroad... There's a reason radio controlled crawlers are so popular
:53 "You can run up to 21 miles on all electricity." A whole 21 miles!? Awesome
Lol I think he made a mistake
Very good for spotting the wild life as it not even know your there
Very cool, I was just in Austin a few weekends ago. Wish I would have known about this 🤦♂️
Some said its not a good idea to cross water with 4XE since electrical parts including batteries are below the seats. Is it really not a problem?
The best part is the blue
I prefer the 2 door Jeep. I’m hoping for that in a few years. Roman get well soon.
Does it charge it's own batteries while you are in hybrid mode? If yes, why would you ever travel in gas only? What is the MPG in hybrid mode (battery and gas)?
Y'all should put it in esave then go into settings and have it set to recharge the battery.
Will be nice to have a peaceful trail
Awesome video! Thank you! Looking at getting a 4xe after our rv purchase! What is this awesome trail called? Is it opened to the public?
Really cool to see, but with a 21 mile range it would be pointless for me to purchase and probably end up being more of an inconvenience than anything else. Hope they make more progress over the next 5+ years and we can see a range closer to a few hundred miles!
It's a hybrid so it will still run in hybrid mode and get great gas mileage. Pure electric mode is just an extra
on most hybrids when all the cumulative power is requested when the battery is empty... the combustion engine is powerful enough in generator function to continuously supply the electric motor and thus retain the benefit of the 2 cumulative powers... is it this the case on JEEP 4xE? thank you.
The blue accents are kinda sweet
That's awesome! Great video!
I see everyone complaining about the 21 mile range, but isn't a big benefit of this hybrid better power and faster acceleration? That, combined with the tax credits make it seem pretty good to me.
Where did Jeep fly you to? Is this Michigan? Chelsea or Auburn Hills?
Somewhere near Austin, TX I believe.
Like a full sized RC toy.
Hey Roman. Rub some dirt on it! :)
Wonder if it's modification friendly as the other models? Lifts, 37s, etc.
This has to have been filmed at Revellie peak ranch
I've had mine since April 9 and have yet to put gas in it. Have class 2 charger in the garage and it takes less then 2 hours to charge. It said it would take 12 hours on 110 and it charged in 7 hours it was at 15 %. I have a JK also both Rubicons and I think the 4XE
works great. On all electric and Max Regen I'm getting 25+. I'm going to run the gas out and the fill with reg. no alcohol so the gas lasts longer. It gets me any place I need to go
in town on electric. Oh and it stomps the JK with 3.6. CW
Let the electric wars begin! The more competition, the faster we get an all electric vehicle that goes 1000 miles on a single charge and can recharge in 10 minutes.
Does the gas engine also have the ability to charge the battery too ?
Wonder what happens if the batteries under the back seat get wet? Either because of rain with the top off or because of going through water and having some come into the cab.
Really wonder if the 4xe system will be available in the grand Cherokee as well? Guessing that is a 2.0T under the hood
What is the point in saying first? Like the kid on the playground that gets to the door first after the bell rings?
I am 8
Stop bullying me
LMAO
400 volts?! In this case "water resistant" better mean 'waterproof', though it usually doesn't!
Great video thank you!
The jeep really need level 3 to be a practical hybrid vehicle and more range in electric. It seems more like a etorque with a basic battery than a true hybrid system. Where you could do a commute on a charge.
How long will the batteries last though? And how many thousands of dollars will it be to replace them? One of the biggest reasons I wouldn't purchase an electric vehicle is the maintenance costs for long term. Sure if only plan on owning for a couple of years I might consider one, seems like would be an interesting experience. But I don't own anything battery operated that works as good as it did when it was new, including my phone I'm using to write this comment.
Anyone know how many mpg the 4xe gets with the factory fox lift and 37’s? Also you stated these Jeeps can’t charge using the Tesla stations?
What’s your opinion of the resale value of a 4Xe compared to a a standard ICE in a 5 years?
Great video guys...
I'll look for jeep on 4xe tflbids. need quicker charge stations have em at gas stations also.
Maybe by the time I get a huge chunk of negative equity of my car loan paid down, I will be able to get my hands on that Cherokee hybrid we saw being tested in another video. At the moment a Cherokee fits me better than wrangler at present
Is the course in austin open to the public?
2.5 hours to fully charge (at 220v, 12 hrs at 110))...which gets you 21 miles of electric range...
LOL. What a joke.
@@bigpeeler 50mpg combined is no JOKE
How long does it last in hybrid mode full power, boasting all these high numbers, how long can i use those high numbers for?
Not that it will be game changer but I wonder if throwing 800W Solar Panels on top will give it a few extra miles.
lol!
4xe drivetrain looks awesome, hope the battery capacity is increased in the future, and hope for high-power outlets. facebook discussion group wrangler4xefans is great.
There is absolutely nothing about this I find appealing.
You don't find tons of torque and good mpg appealing? That's weird most people like those things.
@@mikedcaffey Sure, but that is what Diesel is for.
@@karcharias811 but the 4xe has more torque and better mpg then the diesel.