Something that baffles me to this day is the way that even pro technicians rest the neck the way they do when working on a guitar. The pressure is applied in the completely wrong places with this method. You need to support the neck pocket to prevent unwanted pressure being applied to the neck pocket area. 9/10 this is why you see guitars with small cracks in the body paint around the neck pocket.
You have a point though I never apply pressure to the top when held in the cradle. It's not going to make me work on a guitar flat but thanks for the input.. cheers
Nice set up! Great work and explanation. Side note, you're the only person I've seen tap frets to seat them. I do this regularly to save on the filing and crowning process. Works great. I use a Citibloc, wood kid's toy to seat them. I like wood on metal! 😁 thanks for the video!
Excellent. yea, whatever works, and the wood sounds like a good idea. I've rarely had my brass fret set mark a fret but it can happen. PS: You're right, you can save so much time/energy by trying to tap frets flat before going to a level & crown. In fact maybe the worst thing you could do is try to level the frets before making sure they are all seated properly. Then you've got them level but some are just floating in the fret slots! House of cards. thanks!
Very interesting process, thanks for sharing that, one observation, you probably know that necks and bodies are rarely assembled on the same day there are made, it's an industrial process with CNC and very low tolerance, so any neck can go on any body on that range, even weeks or months apart
I count the number of turns before removing neck that way its easier to get it back in tune by simply turning the tuners the same number of turns .. awesome work brother!
I have one from when they first came out. First year. It's not reliced that much like the one on the video. I put Duncuns on it. I never play it. It might go on eBay very soon. No fret wear at all and plays really great. They are very cool guitars.
Wow! I'm surprised to see you go straight for the neck screws with the electric driver when you're putting the neck back on. I personally would always start with fingers and go anti-clockwise to feel for the 'click' as the threads line up.
I've had to install metal inserts on a couple of these 50 style necks, and it's not the easiest repair to do, probably not for the amateur. The brass inserts are a real bear, and I found the E Z Lock steel inserts a better solution, but you do need a certain amount of skill and machines definitely help to get it right.
This has been relicked more after the factory for sure. They never came checked and heavy relicked like that; not even the originals from the 08-09 range.
sure. got fret rocker on Amazon but it's out of stock. Here's a link to one I got more recently on Amazon that is nicer for $15 (and has action gauge built-in): www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09KQGHV88/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title? Here's the action gauge (also Amazon): www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JJIBUQW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
There is much more space between e and b on the nut than between b and g, right? Or is the camera fooling me? That nut should be replaced completely if the string spacing is not even…
So one question. I have noticed you didn't do any bending of the strings, especialy arround 12th fret. This 7,25 necks are in my oppinion, realy hard to set if you do not check the chocking out of the strings when you bend. Unless the guitar is played by strictly a player that just strum chords, you actualy do not know if the set up is done corectly.
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I'm learning to do my own set-ups & repairs from channels like yours....thank you !
You got it. Good luck and come back anytime
Wow, incredible attention to detail. Wish I knew a local tech who paid as much attention to setups as you do.
Thanks for the kind words!
Something that baffles me to this day is the way that even pro technicians rest the neck the way they do when working on a guitar. The pressure is applied in the completely wrong places with this method. You need to support the neck pocket to prevent unwanted pressure being applied to the neck pocket area. 9/10 this is why you see guitars with small cracks in the body paint around the neck pocket.
You have a point though I never apply pressure to the top when held in the cradle. It's not going to make me work on a guitar flat but thanks for the input.. cheers
Nice set up! Great work and explanation. Side note, you're the only person I've seen tap frets to seat them. I do this regularly to save on the filing and crowning process. Works great. I use a Citibloc, wood kid's toy to seat them. I like wood on metal! 😁 thanks for the video!
Excellent. yea, whatever works, and the wood sounds like a good idea. I've rarely had my brass fret set mark a fret but it can happen. PS: You're right, you can save so much time/energy by trying to tap frets flat before going to a level & crown. In fact maybe the worst thing you could do is try to level the frets before making sure they are all seated properly. Then you've got them level but some are just floating in the fret slots! House of cards. thanks!
@@stillkickinmusic totally! You're doing a great service by sharing your work. Thanks so much!
Great show learning alot thanks dude
*a lot. Two words, not one.
Awesome man. Thanks for the kind words!
Very interesting process, thanks for sharing that, one observation, you probably know that necks and bodies are rarely assembled on the same day there are made, it's an industrial process with CNC and very low tolerance, so any neck can go on any body on that range, even weeks or months apart
Great point. they don't have to be made at the same time.
I count the number of turns before removing neck that way its easier to get it back in tune by simply turning the tuners the same number of turns .. awesome work brother!
I do the same thing...
Damn, I’ve been looking for one of these, but they’re so hard to find
What’s the most you would pay for this strat?
This one got more relic from the factory than most too. Really hard to find like this. I ended up selling it for almost $1200 two years ago...
I have one from when they first came out. First year. It's not reliced that much like the one on the video. I put Duncuns on it. I never play it. It might go on eBay very soon. No fret wear at all and plays really great. They are very cool guitars.
@@stillkickinmusic I was finally able to get one! More reliced than standard, but not as reliced as this one. Super pumped for it to show up!
oh that's insane I have serial ending 54... ha ha.. only two guitars apart from eachother :)
Excellent work.
Thank you! Cheers!
Wow! I'm surprised to see you go straight for the neck screws with the electric driver when you're putting the neck back on. I personally would always start with fingers and go anti-clockwise to feel for the 'click' as the threads line up.
I've had to install metal inserts on a couple of these 50 style necks, and it's not the easiest repair to do, probably not for the amateur. The brass inserts are a real bear, and I found the E Z Lock steel inserts a better solution, but you do need a certain amount of skill and machines definitely help to get it right.
Yea, I'm an animal, but in 15 years I've never misrouted a screw holding on a neck.
This has been relicked more after the factory for sure. They never came checked and heavy relicked like that; not even the originals from the 08-09 range.
Definitely and whoever heavy reliced it after, did a great job looks almost a bit custom shop.
I tend to agree. Most likely got some extra love post-factory. But checking can happen on its own due to temperatues, etc.
My 09 is checked from the factory
Nice vid. Can you list where you got the action gauge and fret rocker, please
sure. got fret rocker on Amazon but it's out of stock. Here's a link to one I got more recently on Amazon that is nicer for $15 (and has action gauge built-in):
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09KQGHV88/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?
Here's the action gauge (also Amazon):
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JJIBUQW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@@stillkickinmusic thank you!
There is much more space between e and b on the nut than between b and g, right? Or is the camera fooling me? That nut should be replaced completely if the string spacing is not even…
Hi, looks like it. Didn't even notice at the time. Sold this guitar 3 years ago, but yea, if it was mine to keep probably replace the nut. thanks!
So one question. I have noticed you didn't do any bending of the strings, especialy arround 12th fret. This 7,25 necks are in my oppinion, realy hard to set if you do not check the chocking out of the strings when you bend. Unless the guitar is played by strictly a player that just strum chords, you actualy do not know if the set up is done corectly.
Yes good point. I always do full step bends starting around the 12th fret and moving up. I just didn't show it in the video. thanks!
i am wondering how to age like that🤔
Why not replacing the strings? Just to save 8 dollars? Seriously?😂
Strings had already been replaced. Need to work on the frets. Don't have to change them again. thanks.