Brilliant series of videos on the Super Max 16/32. Thank you! I have just purchased one for my craft woodworking business and watching your instructive introduction has filled in the many gaps in the out of date manual, making the set-up requirements clear and straightforward. Your videos should accompany all new machines. Like you my initial impression of the machine is that it is impressive and worth the investment - although the price has increased significantly since you purchased yours. So it's a very BIG thank you from me.
What did I tell you Andy.... Game changer... Laguna should get in touch with you and ask if they can use these three episodes as promotional vids... This will sell them loads of these machines. .. I have got 240 grit rolls from IGM in the Czech Republic (forget that, I think I dreamt it) but i pay about £30 for 25m rolls of 60, 80, 120, 150 and 180 grits from IGM. But you have to cut your own which is dead easy. I use 60grit 80 grit 120 grit 150grit and 180 grit depending what I am doing. I have used the 240grit but not often. When i hand sand with my Mirka Deros I go from120 through the grits to 240 and then raise the grain at 240 and let it dry and then sand at 240grit again... then I soak the board in mineral oil and re-apply mineral oil 2 more times and finish with my own board butter and polish to a finish. Again great video Andy. Cheers Paul
Good vid! After you final sand a cutting board--and before you apply oil--give it a wipe with a cloth dampened with water. This stands up any remaining wood fibers laid flat by the sanding process. Allow the wood to dry for 20 minutes or so, and final hand sand with 320 to knock off the little pips. Blow/vacuum the dust from the wood, and then apply the oil. The difference is remarkable.
Well after seeing this thinking it was just another cookie cutter set up was I ever wrong. That has to be the best version I have seen great job and what a beautiful cutting board. Thanks for your time Andy.
Thank you. Very informative series. I have been looking at this sander and think you convinced me! Are you also able to use this to flatten a board when it starts off not flat? Would you attach it to a flat board with shims and run it through? Thanks again!
Great video. You covered everything other than the setting up of the two roller spring tensioners and the potential problems that can come from getting this wrong.
Thank you for the comment, I’ll have a look at the roller spring tensioners. To be honest I have never touched them, and never had a problem. Cheers Andy
Thanks Andy. I made the comment as I read many woodworking forums and video comments. The problem seems to be that stock slips or stops on the conveyor belt and makes a real mess. This is not a snipe matter. There is very little information available on how best to overcome this problem when you get it or understand how it starts. Manufacturers don't seem to offer any help. Any help from you would be great. A video on how to set the roller tensioning etc and trying to unravel this would be a first. Could you get the manufacturer to help? Incidentally could you confirm the grit grade for your conveyor belt please? Many thanks and keep up with making great videos. Cheers Steve
180 grit is the finest I found too. Just for reference for anyone reading, you can also use Jet paper as well as the Laguna, in fact all my current paper is for the Jet 16-32 but fits the Laguna 16-32 perfectly.
@@TheWoodgrafter Correct, that's where I get mine from, and it's not wonder it fits, as I understand it the guys who designed the Laguna are the same guys who designed the Jet, and the Laguna is just the next evolution (hence the handle etc).
I have had a Delta 16/32 for many years, which I have to admit that I rarely use. It operates by raising and lowering the feed belt and platform, which I viewed as less prone to error by keeping the motor in a stationary position. I now see where a fixed platform would be better where infeed/outfeed support comes in to play. That just never crossed my mind. Now, I see the light!
Hi, Yes it was one of those things I realised when I wanted to support some long stock on my thicknesses. It was a pain to keep re-adjusting the in and out feed supports. So a feature I definitely wanted on the sander. Cheers Andy
Great video again. Got a question re using a belt sender (previously) to flatten the cutting board. Wouldn't it be much less work doing that with a hand plane instead? Once the blocks are end-grain up, that won't work, but would be quite fast for the initial step?
Hi Michael, Yes you could use a hand plane, you do need to ensure that you have a very flat surface as you are going to joint it. So a very good test for the sander. It wouldn’t be much less work in this case as I made a bit of a botch on levelling the stock on the glue up. Had a few clamping issues. But if you get a good glue up then yep a hand plane would do the job. Cheers Andy
Hi Andy, Yes - a quick wipe over with a damp cloth does the job. It also allows me to gauge the quality of the bird before I commit to the final finish. Then a light hand sand with 180 - to knock it down. I also hand sand between each oil coat as well. Cheers Andy
Ich habe vor eine Woche in Deutschland 16-32 gekauft , die ist leider komplett aus Aluminium gemacht, wiegt 62 kg. Nicht so stabil wie ich gedacht habe. Baujahr 06.2023.
Oh I see it now that you oiled it - to maintain the offset you had to add the extra maple row…. Very cool! Doubt I would have caught that before assembly- obviously I didn’t! Great design!
Brilliant series of videos on the Super Max 16/32. Thank you! I have just purchased one for my craft woodworking business and watching your instructive introduction has filled in the many gaps in the out of date manual, making the set-up requirements clear and straightforward. Your videos should accompany all new machines. Like you my initial impression of the machine is that it is impressive and worth the investment - although the price has increased significantly since you purchased yours. So it's a very BIG thank you from me.
Thank you,
Even after all this time this machine has never let me down, complete workhorse with consistently great results.
Good luck with yours
Andy
What did I tell you Andy.... Game changer... Laguna should get in touch with you and ask if they can use these three episodes as promotional vids... This will sell them loads of these machines. .. I have got 240 grit rolls from IGM in the Czech Republic (forget that, I think I dreamt it) but i pay about £30 for 25m rolls of 60, 80, 120, 150 and 180 grits from IGM. But you have to cut your own which is dead easy. I use 60grit 80 grit 120 grit 150grit and 180 grit depending what I am doing. I have used the 240grit but not often. When i hand sand with my Mirka Deros I go from120 through the grits to 240 and then raise the grain at 240 and let it dry and then sand at 240grit again... then I soak the board in mineral oil and re-apply mineral oil 2 more times and finish with my own board butter and polish to a finish. Again great video Andy. Cheers Paul
Good vid! After you final sand a cutting board--and before you apply oil--give it a wipe with a cloth dampened with water. This stands up any remaining wood fibers laid flat by the sanding process. Allow the wood to dry for 20 minutes or so, and final hand sand with 320 to knock off the little pips. Blow/vacuum the dust from the wood, and then apply the oil. The difference is remarkable.
Thank you for the comment, yes I always raise the grain with water and then a final sand before the oil.
Agree it makes a huge difference.
Cheers
Andy
Andy, thanks for this series on the Laguna Drum Sander. It has been very informative.
Cheers Ken,
Thank you for the feedback.
Andy
Informative review, thanks.
Cracking reviews, thank you - as a result mine arrives tomorrow!!
Nice,
I love this machine, I am sure you will be very happy.
Andy
Thank you, I own one and have never been able to get through a proper set-up…. Laguna should give you one as a gift!
LoL
Always open to the conversation.
Cheers
Andy
Well after seeing this thinking it was just another cookie cutter set up was I ever wrong. That has to be the best version I have seen great job and what a beautiful cutting board. Thanks for your time Andy.
Thank you Gary
Thank you for the three-part review. I've been shopping for a compact drum sander, and Sautershop now carries Laguna.
Cheers Mike,
This is still one of my number one purchases and no regret buys.
Truly great machine, and you won’t go wrong with Sautershop.
Enjoy
Andy
Now, i want one! thanks for this perfectly, highly effective video.
Thank you for the comment, yes this is a fine machine.
One of my no regrets purchase
Andy
Christmas is coming and that's at the top of the list now .
Now that would be some gift. May I be the first to wish you a very merry Christmas.
Ho Ho Ho
Cheers
Andy
Same too you sir and a happy new year.
Thank you. Very informative series. I have been looking at this sander and think you convinced me! Are you also able to use this to flatten a board when it starts off not flat? Would you attach it to a flat board with shims and run it through? Thanks again!
Great video. You covered everything other than the setting up of the two roller spring tensioners and the potential problems that can come from getting this wrong.
Thank you for the comment,
I’ll have a look at the roller spring tensioners. To be honest I have never touched them, and never had a problem.
Cheers
Andy
Thanks Andy. I made the comment as I read many woodworking forums and video comments. The problem seems to be that stock slips or stops on the conveyor belt and makes a real mess. This is not a snipe matter. There is very little information available on how best to overcome this problem when you get it or understand how it starts. Manufacturers don't seem to offer any help. Any help from you would be great. A video on how to set the roller tensioning etc and trying to unravel this would be a first. Could you get the manufacturer to help?
Incidentally could you confirm the grit grade for your conveyor belt please?
Many thanks and keep up with making great videos. Cheers Steve
180 grit is the finest I found too. Just for reference for anyone reading, you can also use Jet paper as well as the Laguna, in fact all my current paper is for the Jet 16-32 but fits the Laguna 16-32 perfectly.
Thanks Dave,
Great feedback - didn’t realise you could use the Jet. That makes life easier a I think Axminster stock it.
Cheers
Andy
@@TheWoodgrafter Correct, that's where I get mine from, and it's not wonder it fits, as I understand it the guys who designed the Laguna are the same guys who designed the Jet, and the Laguna is just the next evolution (hence the handle etc).
Perfect,
Thank you - given that my local Axminster is 15 mins away - that is useful.
Cheers
Andy
I have had a Delta 16/32 for many years, which I have to admit that I rarely use. It operates by raising and lowering the feed belt and platform, which I viewed as less prone to error by keeping the motor in a stationary position. I now see where a fixed platform would be better where infeed/outfeed support comes in to play. That just never crossed my mind. Now, I see the light!
Hi,
Yes it was one of those things I realised when I wanted to support some long stock on my thicknesses. It was a pain to keep re-adjusting the in and out feed supports.
So a feature I definitely wanted on the sander.
Cheers
Andy
ffs. wish i hadn't watched this... now I'm going to have to buy one! Great vid as usual... thank you... I think.
Your welcome :-)
This is a no regret purchase.
Andy
Great video Andy, mine lands next week.
Hi Paul,
Very nice - you will love it.
Andy
What a lovely chopping board it is 👍
LoL,
Need to send you over some mineral oil as well.
Will pop it over in the next few days.
Great video!!
Thank you,
Great video again. Got a question re using a belt sender (previously) to flatten the cutting board. Wouldn't it be much less work doing that with a hand plane instead? Once the blocks are end-grain up, that won't work, but would be quite fast for the initial step?
Hi Michael,
Yes you could use a hand plane, you do need to ensure that you have a very flat surface as you are going to joint it. So a very good test for the sander.
It wouldn’t be much less work in this case as I made a bit of a botch on levelling the stock on the glue up. Had a few clamping issues.
But if you get a good glue up then yep a hand plane would do the job.
Cheers
Andy
nice review
I would love to see how you made that cutting board in the end I am thinking you don't need a planner if you have a Drum sander like this .
Did you raise the grain and re-sand off camera before oiling?
Hi Andy,
Yes - a quick wipe over with a damp cloth does the job. It also allows me to gauge the quality of the bird before I commit to the final finish.
Then a light hand sand with 180 - to knock it down. I also hand sand between each oil coat as well.
Cheers
Andy
Ist die laguna 16/32 aus Aluminium gemacht?
Nein, es ist eine Kombination aus Stahl und gepresstem Stahl. Ein sehr hochwertiges Produkt.
Ich habe vor eine Woche in Deutschland 16-32 gekauft , die ist leider komplett aus Aluminium gemacht, wiegt 62 kg. Nicht so stabil wie ich gedacht habe. Baujahr 06.2023.
Seltsam, ich frage mich, ob sie das Design geändert haben. Ich werde mir das ansehen, wenn ich etwas Freizeit habe.
I've been looking to get one of these. Or any drum sander of decent size for a small shop. Everything is on backorder it seems!
Hi,
Yes, I had to put this on back order as well. It was well worth the wait though.
Andy
Miss your v-logg about the channel update.
Hi Mats,
I will be giving an update the week after next.
Watch this space.
Andy
Great review, awesome results! But why is your cutting board not symmetrical? Was that intentional?
Oh I see it now that you oiled it - to maintain the offset you had to add the extra maple row…. Very cool! Doubt I would have caught that before assembly- obviously I didn’t! Great design!
Deliver to malta pls
Hi Maltin,
Sorry I have no idea 🤷♂️
Andy