Thanks a lot man! Im a noob at RAM OC'ing and I got these exact same RAM sticks in a 4x8GB setup on a MSI Tomahawk X570 + Ryzen 5800X. Your video helped me slowly achieve below: DRAM Freq. 3800Mhz/1900 FCLK (16-18-18-18-36 @ 1.41V) SOC Voltage 1.100 (AMD Overclocking Mode) trc 60 trfc1 580 tfaw 20 Still need to figure out what I should set for trfc2 & trfc4. Thanks again! EDIT: My trdwr is by default running at 11...tried reducing to 8 but didnt boot.
This ram are very good. RGB variant up to 4400 mhz 19 19 19 43 with 1:22 on b560m aorus pro with 11600k . Very easy to do that, auto settings push up to 4400 afther i activated xmp1 . With out xmp profile 1 won't works 😁. I have same bclk on cpu,uncore and ram
I couldn't get no error at 3800MHz on my ryzen 3600 so I just used 3600MHz, I tried getting 14-17-17-17-35 and it could pass Avx2 and Sse memory benchmarks on OCCT (30min each) , but honestly I saw little improvements on synthetic benchmarks, I saw that in games some of the most important timings are tFAW / tRRDL / tRRDS, tRFC, tRAS, tRC. I wanted to set the tRRDS /tRRDL /tFAW, going from 6/6/24 to 4/6/16 watching the github memory OC Guide and try them, also wanted to lower tRFC a bit and tRC, I was thinking of trying your values (580/60 for these last timings), I'll probably update in a couple of days here, it was a great video and useful to learn :)
Thank you. Hope you get it all tuned in just right. This is a great kit of ram. Not touching DDR5 for this very reason. DDR4 has plenty of life left in it. Later when DDR5 matures ill make the jump.
@@TechnologyHive I'll try, the timings for the fFAW and the other 2 are really tight so it might not work. I wanted to OC so I can get the most out of my system for as long as it can, DDR5 is interesting too but it's a bit too expensive... I might as well safely push my configuration and wait until new platforms becomes cheaper. So far so good, thank you for the video again and have a great day, if you want I'll update here my adventures
@@TechnologyHive Okay so, little updates (not fully sure about stability yet, I want to test more) Soc 1.1V DDR4 voltage 1.425V (I actually set 1.4V but my motherboard wants to push more than what I tell her lol) DDR4@3733MHz still 1:1 tRRDS/tRRDL/tFAW : 6/6/24 tWR 16 I'll test more in the morning to see if it's stable, if it is stable I think I'll probably call it a daily and be fine even if I can tight timings more
@@TechnologyHive I need to try prime95 again you're right, I used the memory stress test on OCCT and the AVX2 Large stress test always on OCCT. The reason why I'm not trying it yet is because it used to close itself after the 2 minutes mark if I remember correctly, I wasn't even using OCs, just crashing after the 2 minutes lol This thing aside, I'll try again, maybe it was crashing due to some conflicts between drivers or updates
I picked these up but 16x2 for that dual rank goodness. My favorite part is no RGB bullshit. Parts are expensive and lights don't do shit for performance
RGB you won't find on high frequency kits, 4266mhz and above. Reason is signal interference. I don't know all the tech details behind it but that is my understanding. So in the end no rgb is better. 😊
Hi there! new to your channel but this video is definitely very well made and helpful. I managed to get stable with your settings on 4x8gb sticks of the same ram, asus x570 tuf gaming mobo, ryzen 5800x.. Just wanted to ask, have you done any tweaks to these settings since then? if so, which changes do you recommend?
@@putzak Probably on Intel. On AMD, cpu interconnect errors start popping up after 1900mhz FCLK. All my 5000 series do on all my x570 and b550 boards. We need an agesa bios update.
@@TechnologyHive thanks for the info. Ill get mine in the mail tomorrow to stretch my 3700x' legs. Coming from some iffy 3000 (barely) mhz ram 3800 mhz will be a nice upgrade. I'll try 3800 with the base XMP timings and go from there.
@@putzak the 16-18-16-16-38 timings @3800mhz is plenty fast for me at least. Tightening up the subtimings is where a lot of the performance boost came from for me along with frequency. Hope you get good results 👍😊
I'm not planning ryzen (already got my 11600k for £228), but still want low timed ram, just wanted to see if this had headroom. Nice video! Ps: might want to clean your mousepad :)
@@TechnologyHive I have the same memory kit as you, 2x16 3600mhz cl16. I use this configuration, what values do you recommend to lower, or should I leave it like that?
@@mikelsaezdeeguilaz386 I'd leave it alone to be honest. The ram is fast already out of the box. But if you must get every inch of performance out of it, I'd take the frequency to 3800mhz, 1.42v, FCLK 1900, soc 1.1v
Wow... i'm a total newb to dram overlocking, i've followed your video from the start till the end. And I have finally overclocked the exact sticks as you. This are my results: Single-core: 8154 Multi-core: 8041 Thank you so much!
@@TechnologyHive yes it is! thanks to u man! nice hopefully u'll get a good one! also I saw that you've put 580 instead of 592 at tRFC. should I keep it at 580 or change it to 592?
Hey Man. HUGE THANKS for this video. I am a noob when it comes to Ram overclocking. I have the same kit as yours paired with 5600x and 6800xt. I literally copied your last settings and system booted easily. I couldnt find the right version of Memtest but so far I am running 8 separate windows of memtest with 2gb each and no errors. How can I assure that these are stable and will remain like that? I would like to use them on a daily basis. Is it bad for the ram? Its running at 3800mhz 1900flk and your last checked timings. Love your work btw!!
First, thank you a ton. Second, don't worry about the ram speed at 3800mhz. The important thing is to keep your voltage under 1.55v due to heat. So have plenty of ventilation. I like MT5 for a quick memory test. You want to test with memtest86 for a few hours at least. Howevever MT5 as short of a test as it is will give you a pretty idea where your ram stability is at. 5 minutes and it's done. 1900fclk is perfectly fine if your cpu imc can handle it in the first place. No degrading effects there. Over all, enjoy your OC. You're not killing or degrading anything.
@@TechnologyHive Thanks for the reply. Quick question, have you tried OCing the sam kit to 4000mhz CL16 or CL18 timings? Maybe another video on that? I have it running currently at 1.4volts as in your video. Literally all the same settings that you found stable.
I have specifically r5 3600 and two of this ram kit 4x8gb 1900FCLK 3800MT/s 16 18 18 24 + carefully adjusted secondaries and tertiaries rock solid stable at 1.39v (with room of improvement), but I've read that manually adjusting ProcOdt, RTTs and cadbus values can do a lot on 4 dimms, but i cannot find any valuable info about it other than "try random values and test", any help?
It would very hard to recommend something without being able to test. But, your settings seem pretty dang good already. And that 3600 should be happy at 3800MT/s.
Found this video, i have the same memory model (well, mine is BL8G36C16U4BL, the final L means LED ;) ), it was very helpful, i was able to push my 4x8 sticks to 3800 CL16 @1.4, stable. I've mostly uploaded on my motherboard BIOS the same values that comes from DRAM Calculator. I tried pushing 3800 and CL14 but TestMem5 gives me errors so i rolled back to CL16, but i'd like to ask you where should i start if i want to lower the latency. I mean, probably i still have some room for improvements, as i'm rock solid at 1.4v, should i lower by 1 the actual latency (from 16-18-18-18 to 15-17-17-17) ? As you may understand i'm not a RAM expert but i can deal with PC not booting and reset to BIOS default . Thanks again for the video, it was really clear and helpful
If you want to tackle latency, then leave your primary timings as they are where it's stable and tweak your sub-timings, as this will improve overall performance in games and applications that are memory sensitive.
Hi, I have this kit, been trying to find a second kit for a while here in the UK so I can have 128 Gb. Do you know if there are any timings that are particularly useful to tune to increase productivity workloads? such as matlab, FEM, or anything like that? I actually watched this video before buying this kit a couple of months ago.
Hey whats up... i really like your guide. Any idea on how i can use Thaiphoon on win 11? I can't get the xmp for the dram calculator... or is there another way to get the specs into the Calculator?
@@Fragil1ty Thank you. I gotta say though. I put about $900 in the computer build(Noctua Fans and Cooler add up) and it still does not perform as well(running Linux) as an off the shelf M1 Mac Mini.
Hi! I’m fairly new to overclocking, and I have found your video to be extremely helpful! I have similar kit to yours with the same die, but a slightly different part number: BL8G36C16U4B.M8FE1. I see that you are using a Ryzen 3600 and managed to reach a 1900 FLCK with the kit. What’s driving me nuts is the inability of my system with a 3700x + Asus Rog Strix B550-F to post with 3800mHz (1900 FCLK). It has only posted where it was not 1:1:1 ratio. I have loosened timings that are a bit sensitive for a Micron E-die and set the appropriate voltages, but my system just will not post. Am I in an unlucky situation where both my CPU or ram kit are subpar or am I missing a crucial step that will allow for a post and some stability? Your help will be much appreciated. Thank you in advance!
Hello. Unfortunately you're not alone in this voyage. 3800mhz or 1900fclk is not guaranteed with every ryzen 3000 series. Some memory controllers can do it. Others can not. Your cpu memory controller is to blame. But 3600mhz is still a good speed if you tweak out the timings correctly. It can run just as fast as a kit running at 3800mhz. So do not feel discouraged as this is normal. Just play with your timings and you will get equal or better performance 🙂.
@@TechnologyHive Ah man, that’s unfortunate and also expected lol. I’ll for sure try to squeeze out some extra performance at 3600 MHz with some adjusted timings. Thanks for your reply. Glad I came across your channel!
@@SuperBigboybad just for an example, i've had a 3500x that would post to windows with a cheap adata 3200mhz kit above 4000mhz, but now i have a ryzen 3600 that cant even make 4 sticks run at 3800mhz cl16 without going bluescreen, and i have really good ram (hyperx predator 3600mhz xmp and adata d50 4133mhz xmp)... its really unfortunate
i run the same stuff i wish it was dual rank dimms they are only 1 row 3800 cl 14 gear 1 b50 tomahawk max trie everything i can get memor write over 30k
I bought the 3000mhz ones and I wanted to know if you think I should be able to just try to over clock them to 3600mhz or should I just pick up some new ones with different timings?
If you can, buy the 3600mhz kit. It's under $100 as of right now. But if that is not an option, the 3000mhz kit should do you well, depending on the motherboard and cpu.
Hey! Thank you so much for your banger vid, you're gonna save me alot of money, i just need some guidance if you can help me real quick. I'm going to build a new rig soon, at first i wanted to go with the crucial ram 32 GB 3600HZ CL16 but they are expensive as F here, so i tought about getting the 32 GB 3200HZ CL 16 and overclock them to 3600HZ, so a 400HZ bump, would that be feasible? Anyways, thanks for your vid mate, banger.
Micron for a long time held the highest ram oc record. Idk if they still do. Going from 3200mhz to 3600mhz is possible yes. But it is the timing you'd have to fiddle with a bit. Namely tRCDRD. Don't go over 1.5v for the ram btw.
oof i got the Single Rank version with mine, 2 16gb sticks, but the performance is still there not sure if its worth returning to get the dual rank ones
Single Rank is better, you can get a higher freq with 4 sticks than dual rank in 4 sticks. in real world, it doesn't even matter. Btw I think there is no more dual-rank anyway unless you find it manufactured before a year or so.
I've covered this many times in the comments lol. But, it's okei I'll explain it once more. XMP is not guaranteed with all dimms loaded. If you have 16gb x4, your motherboard most likely does not support xmp 3600mhz in with all dimm slots occupied. Check you motherboard manufacturers website for ram support configuration, and limitations.
@@TechnologyHive Thanks for reply, well there are 2 x 32 Gb and it still doesn't work. Regarding the MOBO in QVL there are lower GB models like 16 GB and 8 GB but the 64 GB kit is not included although it should be the same architecture and speeds. This might be the cause ?
@@CurseOfDeath Yes that can also be a limitation. Check your board specs. But don't feel discouraged. It is quiet normal for these limitations to restrict memory speeds. I'd try 3200mhz and just tweak the timings. If that still does not work, try 3000mhz and tweak the subtimings. Your performance will be equal to 3600mhz with the right timings in place.
@@TechnologyHive Okay i might try again, I'm afraid to not brick the Mobo while trying as so far it when it failed it brought me back to BIOS window, but i heard that it also possible to stop boot at all and then i need to bring it to a service. Thanks a lot for your suport.
I can,t even run on de xmp profile with this sticks. No post. Need to reset cmos. What i,am doing wrong? System: 5900x, rtx, 4x8gb, nzxt b550 firmware 1.3(no QVL). I run at 3400mhz the rest stock xmp now. Can i try 1.4v and 3600mhz? Thanks.
@@TechnologyHiveThanks for your response! In the manual the only thing i can find is this: Memory 4 * DIMM, Max. 128GB, DDR4 Dual-channel memory architecture For the rest i could not find anything noting that it only supports 2 dimms for xmp.
@@TechnologyHive Hi did test it on both dual slots a1+b1 and a2+b2 with no succes. Cmos reset and only xmp enable. The weird think is that it would not try to boot in windows. There is no bios post at all.
Update: I,am running now at 3533mhz 1.4v 16-18-16-36 stable (dram call and memtest), read: 54162 write: 53348 Copy: 51340: Latency: 60.8. If i go lower on the volts it would bsod. If i go tighter on the timings i get errors. No matter what i tried, 3600mhz (xmp and manual) doesn't work, 10x training no post, volts 1.35 till 1.42, dram call alts, ect. Somthing on the mobo doesn't like this speed i think. I seen more people talking about xmp and b550 boards not posting. Any advice on my timings?
I couldn't find better ram. $120 CAD for 3600MHz CL16 will pair nicely with my 5900X. Any other ram you find comparable to price and speed ? I plan to use it with a Chromax D15 so these should be low profile enough, close to Corsair's LPX (I think?).
They are low profile yes. Also, check out the G.Skill aegis kit. It is Samsung D die, at least mine were. Excellent deal if you overclock them to 3600mhz. I made a video on the detailing process. Worth the money 💵💸👍
Did they fit with your D15 cooler? I've never used a cooler this big. Can you remove the ram without removing the cooler (all DIMM slots)? I'm looking at the same ram and a D15S cooler.
@@TheRemmuh d15s doesn't come with front fan so the ram clearance is a lot greater than the d15's. 65mm ram clearance for d15s. so most ram can fit with that beast installed. hope that helps
hey, purchased 2x8gb of crucial ballistix 3200Mhz CL16, reddit people claiming the kit is micron E-die aswell, can I expect similar results? Also, is it practically the same kit, just the clock from the factory is lower one one kit, since they both have the same die? Thanks
Hi Technology Hive, any chance you can upload that profile for the ram? I have the same ram, or maybe you tell me how to download it. thanks! Surprisingly, my latency is 61.3 using 2 stick of single rank+ 2 stick of dual rank of this same RAM 16GB cl16 with XMP 3600, the only thing I've changed from my MSI b550 tomahawk is the tRFC from 991 to 631 and tRC from 84 to 58 which both for some reason sted wrong on my bios and didn't read from the XMP value. My read is 54024MB and my copy 495020MB, with 5950x, probably zen 3 has better latency than zen2.
My PC not booting up at all when i go from xmp 3600 to 3800 in 1:1 only 1:0.95 works, im not sure what i’m doing wrong and having to keep taking the cmos battery out is getting annoying
You should have a jumper marked CLR CMOS on your board. Just use a flathead screw driver for the jumper with the pc turned off. What CPU, and motherboard do you have?
@@TechnologyHive Yes I saw that but was too scared to do it since I was already familiar with removing the battery, I have a 5900x with a MSI Mag X570-S tomahawk wifi
@Alex have you updated to latest bios? If not, please do so. Also, set the fclk manually and the uclk should follow. If not, manually set uclk to 1900 as well and make sure your soc has plenty of power. 1.05 or 1.100 should do.
@@TechnologyHive Yes BIOS is updated to the latest version. The issues arises when i set the FCLK manually, that’s when the pc doesn’t boot up, i only set DRAM voltage to 1.35 to make sure it has enough
Hi, can i check with u is CL14-18-18-35 better or cl 16-18-18-36 ? i tried OC-ing my ballistix RGB 3200mhz to CL14 timing. was wondering is that better? Thanks!
I know RAM manufacturers put tCL first, but actually your greatest performance improvement comes from tighter tRCDRD, and subtimings. Being what I assume to be Micron E revision IC's in your ram kit, tRCDRD 17 will be the tightest I've gotten. So if you can get 14.17.17.17.36 it would be great. If not, 16.18.18.18.36 tRC 56, tRFC 580, tFAW 26, tCWL 16 should yeild good results. Volts @1.4👍 try that let me know...
@@TechnologyHive Forgot to mention I'm on intel system. I tried your timing and booted to windows but had a BSOD xD do u suggest I should stick with cl 14 CD trcd 18 trp 18 tras 35? Or try other timings?
Honestly CL14 combined with a 18 tRCDRD won't boost performance much. I'd go for 16-18-18-18-36, tRC 60, tRFC 580. Then focus on frequency since you're on Intel, you're frequency is not limited like it is on Ryzen due to infinity fabric 1:1 ratio. But then again I don't know what cpu you have, motherboard or memory model number. If you want you can try CL14-18-18-18136 but performance will so minimal it will be hardly worth the time.
@@TechnologyHive sorry my specs are i9 10850k 5ghz. Z490 msi gaming plus(latest bios) Manage to get stable 5ghz that's why my hands are itchy for better ram speed and timings haha.. My best was xmp profile and 3700mhz. 1.35v.. Gonna try more timing before I settle down. 😂
Is this kit compatible with rog strix x570 gaming -e? The official vendors website confirm 100% compatability with all of the ballistix dimms except the 8bg 3600.. Anyone knows why? Edit: When you entered bios you answered my question.. Seems the 3rd party sites are more well-prepared than the official ones.
Tnx for great tutorial, i have same kit plus gskill trident z F4-3600C16D-16GTZ DDR4-3600MHz CL16-16-16-36 1.35V 16GB (2x8GB) so 32gb total.. i followed you but cannot boot with stable timings.. do you have any suggestions? anyway with enabled xmp default settings timings are 18 18 18 38 and aida bench. latency 70.6 read around 46k copy around 47... tnx!
If you're loading all memory banks or dimms, your board will likely not like it and refuse to post. Look up "memory topology". This will explain what's going on.
@@TechnologyHive I managed to go 3800mhz 16 18 18 36 timing.. 53k read 53k write and 68 latency... but this geek bench is showing much lower results for me single score is 1242 and multi core 7889 ryzen 5 3600.. cinebench r12 around 1650 pts... fyi im using geekbench version 5 i see you are using version 3 maybe they changed points calculation
Hi. I have the same kit and can overclock just the same, all apart from the command rate. I see you have it a 1T (N1 on MSI boards) and yet I cannot do that. If I choose N1 the memory OC fails.
@@mrmrgaming But then again it has a lot to do with the IMC. For example Samsung B-DIE is really heavy on IMCs. Intel and AMD IMCs take a different approach at the same concept. So a setting that works on AMD might not work with Intel. And also your chip just might have a poor IMC. Silicone lottery.
It is a myth. The intel 12700k also benefits greatly from fast tightened ram. Get around the same boost in fps as amd. Less Latency is just always good.
That's Intel's latest gen on a new process node. There was a significant difference with fast vs. slow RAM on 7nm Zen 2/3 (or even 12nm Zen+) compared to 14nm Intel. Things may have changed recently but it was not a myth as you say.
I like the Balistix kit, so id choose it. But it depends on the ICs. Samsung B-Die is, for the most part, is a better overclocking kit. But Micron E revision is also a good chip. If I did not know the ICs in the kit and I had to pick one, I'd go for the Ballistix kit, as I'm more likely to get E revision, vs Ripjaws where it could be Hynix, or Samsung D-die. Hard to tell really.
@@TechnologyHive i want to finish my build with a 5600x and b550 tomahawk. i already have a 2060 from zotac. im searching and searching which one is the best ram for the buck and overclocking.im between those two . the micron ones are 20 euros more expensive in my country(for cl16 3600, the 3200mhz cl16 is the same price) and they have a 30 day delivery and ripjaws v (F4-3200C16D-16GVKB) are available right now to purchase. i dk what to do ... can you help me plz ? also i heard that the timings and mhz speeds dont metter too much on pcs like mine... they have a better difference on high end pcs like a 5900 x with a 3080. ive also seen that dual rank memorys realdy do extract some more performance out of those ryzen 5000 chips.(5-10%) . i would really really appreciate if you helped me... thx
@ttvbtw ttvbtw Grab the Ripjaws. Either kit you buy, you'll be happy with, I'm sure. Ryzen 3 makes good use of higher memory speeds 3200mhz and up, as well as tight timings. 16-18-18-18-36 @3200mhz is good enough. You won't regret it.
This ram will work great. Also the B550 tomahawk is very very nice motherboard. The VRM is one of the best, rivaling a lot more expensive X570 boards. Also the memory overclocking on that board is excellent. Good choice of parts.
Una pregunta . ¿Esta configuración funciona en una placa madre asus prime a520m-k ? .Pregunto porque es una gama de entrada y no se si soporta overclok de ram.
DDR4 16GB (2x8), Crucial, 3200MHz, Ballistix White, BL2K8G32C16U4W If I take this 3200MHz ram, can I oc it to 3600MHz? Like this ram is best I can get for 200€.
I can't guarantee you can overclock it at all. But it is possible yes, if you have the right cpu, motherboard, and knowledge. 3000 and 5000 series AMD cpus have good memory controllers. 5000 series are better IMO.
Hi I'm just reading this... the maker of the video is completely wrong. Most of these crucial ram sticks are now "single rank". 8gb x 4 will have extremely similar results to the rare 16gb x 2 dual rank. For gaming, 8gb x 4 will yield better fps than 16 x 2. I've personally tried both variations of this set up, using this ram. You can also find videos of 16x2 vs 8x4 on UA-cam here. 8x4 will win every time.
@@kevintuns2324 Not every board and not every imc can handle 4 dimms at 3600mhz. Your system will likely not boot or just be unstable. What works for you may not work for others.
@@kevintuns2324 You're assuming. Many boards, even "modern" boards like B550 boards do not support 3600mhz speed kits with all 4 dimms loaded. People often go and buy 4x8 3600mhz kits, install it and then wonder why the system does not boot. I'd recommend looking at the board's manufacturer website before buying 4x8 kits for support details. It often clearly states there what the max supported frequency is with all dimms loaded.
@@TechnologyHive imo is the best option in a lot of countries for the people who don't care about RBG and want some good ram, maybe other kit like corsair vengeance could be around the same price in other zones but here they're like 15% more expensive so Ballistix 3600 MHz 16 gb here it's for me. Also the difference here between 3200 and 3600 ballistix was just 3% in price.
@@Elicabas1768 No se si sabes que hablo Español 😊. Yes it's true. I myself couldnt care less about rgb. A lot of kits put there look all pretty but run like junk. This is the best bang for the buck in my humble opinion. 👍
@@Spioszek I did not download this profile as that is not possible to do. I used the Ryzen calculator to adjust the timings. I have a video on my channel that exaplins the process 😊👍.
It should. I say it should because the cpu's memory controller and motherboard topology plays a big role. What works in my setup may not work for someone else with the same exact hardware. Silicone lottery.
if i activate xmp profile, it doesnt boot. so i did OC changes by the aisuit 3, and it make then run at 3200mhz, if i change it for, example, 3300mhz, it stops booting again.
Micron/Crucial has very good vetting/binning of their memory kits to make sure they are compatible with most systems out there even when not on a QVL from my experience. But the B350 chipset is not known for playing well with ram speeds over 3000mhz. Perhaps new agesa updates have fixed that for your particular board, but I wouldn't hold my breath. My R5 2600 will do 3600mhz memory perfectly fine on my B550 boards. But as soon as it goes in my old B350 board its stuck at 3000mhz ram speeds 😕.
@@TechnologyHive yeah that's a bummer and most gigabyte mobos are pretty shady when come to volatge/memory support specially b350 and b450 and my gigabyte ab350-d3h is weird because with my older 1600 i can push over 1.5v but now with a 2600 im stuck max 1.4v even i raise my mobo max voltage idk why, im using latest version bios and i change my bios but the result is same and also the vram of the mobo is pretty bad even pair with a 2600 which is a 6 core cpu i see max vram temp reach 110c when i run cinebech r23, but i dnt stress my cpu that much so for gaming its not a problem, bdw memory oc is not depended on the imc of the cpu not the chipset right because if you pair 3600/3600x you can push easily 3600mhz ram speed even with a320 mobo easily and i dnt think a320 memory support is as good as b350, ig its something to do with older gen ryzen because memory support was first zen nightmare evn tho zen+ you can push over 3200 or can reach 3200 without too many tweaks in bios but ig again it depend which brand b350 you using, i saw a guy who push 3466mhz with his msi b350 pair with a 1700x and we all know first zen ryzen its so hard to get even sable 3200mhz, how you running a 2000 series cpu with a b550? b550 is not support only 3000 and 5000 series cpu?
@@Ryzen-gh1en The Gigabyte B550M S2H motherboard works fine with the 2600. It won't run my R5 1600 though. The memory overclocking on that board is also one of the best since it's only 2 dimms. It can reach 5100mhz oc memory. I've had it at 4800mhz with some crucial sticks. Superb board. With B350 chipset it also depends on the silicone lottery. Some chips do good, others don't.
@@TechnologyHive i check cpu support list on B550M S2H but sadly they dnt mention any 2000 series cpu support list, if i upgrade a 5600x/5800x in future i guess 4 dimms slot is better then 2 slot because you get more memory bandwidth and GN tested with 5000 series ryzen pair with 4 ram sticks you get better frame compare to 2 ram stick, i can run my 2400mhz at 3000mhz if i pair 4 and 3 dimm slot but it is recommended that i use 2 and 1 where im stuck 2933mhz with procODT 80, if i put it less then 80 it wont even boot stable idk why, my problem is it was stable almost 2 years but now my ram dnt even work properly, i switch different slot but it wont post, after so many times i remove and then put it back it work but sometimes one stick work like bios shows 16gb but in windows only 8gb shows, idk it is my mobo issue or ram and does raise the voltage and procODT can degraded the ram IC?
@@Ryzen-gh1en if you watch my latest video, "R5 2600 vs R5 5600x" video, the board I used was the Gigabyte B550M S2H 👍. It doesn't say on the website, but 100% it supports it. Just update the bios. It comes with bios flashback so you can do it without a cpu installed. 👍👍
Hello ! I have 2 KITs of Crucial Ballistix BL2K16G36C16U4B 32GB(2x16) 3600MHz CL16. One of them is .M8FB1, and the other .M16FE1. So i have 2 kits of 32GB each, one kit of 2x16GB (both of the memory sticks are the same, not to be misunderstood) is labeled as M8FB1 and one kit of 2x16GB (same, both are the same)is M16FE1. Which would be better for a Ryzen 7 5700G? And for Overclocking? I want to mention that I have some problems with trying to overclock the M16FE1.The memory latency is 400 ns when I try to overclock them sometimes even though it posts and sometimes even with XMP activated it becomes 300-400 ns. What should I do ?
DRAM calculator is a piece of garbage. The DRAM calculator relies on users identifying their own memory ICs, via Thaiphoon Burner. Thaiphoon is fairly rubbish -it's not a real memory IC detector, it just reads the SPD and matches it to a database of serial codes. Problem is that memory vendors will swap the memory ICs used in their high-speed kits from initial release, sometimes 2-3x, and Thaiphoon Burner will still read out the original IC.
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this video is so good thanks man and its very simple and understanding
I appreciate it very much thank you 😊.
Hey, nice video!
I got my kit running stable @4000MHz 16-18-18-38 (1.42v)
Nice!
At 2000mhz flck? But how? Mine got whea error
@@adipprasetyo4283 whea error? mine doesn't even boot
I got this ram i followed the timings you set and its stable, 3800mhz 1:1 CL15,17,17,17,36 at 1.45v i got a 56 latency score on aida64
Thats pretty good! Congrats :)
This was an extremely helpful video, thanks
Glad it helped 🙂
Thanks a lot man!
Im a noob at RAM OC'ing and I got these exact same RAM sticks in a 4x8GB setup on a MSI Tomahawk X570 + Ryzen 5800X. Your video helped me slowly achieve below:
DRAM Freq. 3800Mhz/1900 FCLK (16-18-18-18-36 @ 1.41V)
SOC Voltage 1.100 (AMD Overclocking Mode)
trc 60
trfc1 580
tfaw 20
Still need to figure out what I should set for trfc2 & trfc4.
Thanks again!
EDIT: My trdwr is by default running at 11...tried reducing to 8 but didnt boot.
Glad it helped you! Leave tRFC 2 and 4 alone. No need to mess with those.
mine works 3800MHz 4x8Go @1.35V
This ram are very good. RGB variant up to 4400 mhz 19 19 19 43 with 1:22 on b560m aorus pro with 11600k . Very easy to do that, auto settings push up to 4400 afther i activated xmp1 . With out xmp profile 1 won't works 😁.
I have same bclk on cpu,uncore and ram
I'm still using this kit. It is good stuff. Especially for AMD rigs.
I couldn't get no error at 3800MHz on my ryzen 3600 so I just used 3600MHz, I tried getting 14-17-17-17-35 and it could pass Avx2 and Sse memory benchmarks on OCCT (30min each) , but honestly I saw little improvements on synthetic benchmarks, I saw that in games some of the most important timings are tFAW / tRRDL / tRRDS, tRFC, tRAS, tRC.
I wanted to set the tRRDS /tRRDL /tFAW, going from 6/6/24 to 4/6/16 watching the github memory OC Guide and try them, also wanted to lower tRFC a bit and tRC, I was thinking of trying your values (580/60 for these last timings), I'll probably update in a couple of days here, it was a great video and useful to learn :)
Thank you. Hope you get it all tuned in just right. This is a great kit of ram. Not touching DDR5 for this very reason. DDR4 has plenty of life left in it. Later when DDR5 matures ill make the jump.
@@TechnologyHive I'll try, the timings for the fFAW and the other 2 are really tight so it might not work. I wanted to OC so I can get the most out of my system for as long as it can, DDR5 is interesting too but it's a bit too expensive... I might as well safely push my configuration and wait until new platforms becomes cheaper.
So far so good, thank you for the video again and have a great day, if you want I'll update here my adventures
@@TechnologyHive Okay so, little updates (not fully sure about stability yet, I want to test more)
Soc 1.1V
DDR4 voltage 1.425V (I actually set 1.4V but my motherboard wants to push more than what I tell her lol)
DDR4@3733MHz still 1:1
tRRDS/tRRDL/tFAW : 6/6/24
tWR 16
I'll test more in the morning to see if it's stable, if it is stable I think I'll probably call it a daily and be fine even if I can tight timings more
@Andrea Nice. I hope it's solid stable. I test with prime95 large ffts. Only way to be sure for me 👍🏼
@@TechnologyHive I need to try prime95 again you're right, I used the memory stress test on OCCT and the AVX2 Large stress test always on OCCT. The reason why I'm not trying it yet is because it used to close itself after the 2 minutes mark if I remember correctly, I wasn't even using OCs, just crashing after the 2 minutes lol
This thing aside, I'll try again, maybe it was crashing due to some conflicts between drivers or updates
people rave about Samsung, but Micron imo makes the highest quality
Micron/Crucial is known for their tight QC. They take care to make sure their stuff works on almost everything 🙂. Of course their not perfect.
Overclocked mine to 4400mhz CL18-20-20-40 at 1.45v
I picked these up but 16x2 for that dual rank goodness. My favorite part is no RGB bullshit. Parts are expensive and lights don't do shit for performance
RGB you won't find on high frequency kits, 4266mhz and above. Reason is signal interference. I don't know all the tech details behind it but that is my understanding. So in the end no rgb is better. 😊
Hi there! new to your channel but this video is definitely very well made and helpful. I managed to get stable with your settings on 4x8gb sticks of the same ram, asus x570 tuf gaming mobo, ryzen 5800x..
Just wanted to ask, have you done any tweaks to these settings since then? if so, which changes do you recommend?
I made for B550 Ryzen 5800x
drive.google.com/file/d/1CpJcqJQvRMM_8RQfJN3PfstSOYn1lMWa/view?usp=sharing
i got mine to 4000MHz 17-18-18-35 and it runs great
Nice job!
Dang that's impressive
@@putzak Probably on Intel. On AMD, cpu interconnect errors start popping up after 1900mhz FCLK. All my 5000 series do on all my x570 and b550 boards. We need an agesa bios update.
@@TechnologyHive thanks for the info. Ill get mine in the mail tomorrow to stretch my 3700x' legs. Coming from some iffy 3000 (barely) mhz ram 3800 mhz will be a nice upgrade. I'll try 3800 with the base XMP timings and go from there.
@@putzak the 16-18-16-16-38 timings @3800mhz is plenty fast for me at least. Tightening up the subtimings is where a lot of the performance boost came from for me along with frequency. Hope you get good results 👍😊
Fin video, takk!
I'm not planning ryzen (already got my 11600k for £228), but still want low timed ram, just wanted to see if this had headroom. Nice video! Ps: might want to clean your mousepad :)
I'll throw it in the washer tonight lol
@@TechnologyHive I have the same memory kit as you, 2x16 3600mhz cl16. I use this configuration, what values do you recommend to lower, or should I leave it like that?
@@mikelsaezdeeguilaz386 I'd leave it alone to be honest. The ram is fast already out of the box.
But if you must get every inch of performance out of it, I'd take the frequency to 3800mhz, 1.42v, FCLK 1900, soc 1.1v
Wow... i'm a total newb to dram overlocking, i've followed your video from the start till the end. And I have finally overclocked the exact sticks as you. This are my results:
Single-core: 8154
Multi-core: 8041
Thank you so much!
That's some nice scores there. Congrats! I've been wanting to get my hands one some Micron B revision. I hear they clock well. We will see :)
@@TechnologyHive yes it is! thanks to u man! nice hopefully u'll get a good one! also I saw that you've put 580 instead of 592 at tRFC. should I keep it at 580 or change it to 592?
@@dema7323 If it's stable at 580 then 👍💪. Mine can do 580 stable as well. Give it a shot.
Great video, any chance you could post your full stable settings?
Hey Man. HUGE THANKS for this video. I am a noob when it comes to Ram overclocking. I have the same kit as yours paired with 5600x and 6800xt. I literally copied your last settings and system booted easily. I couldnt find the right version of Memtest but so far I am running 8 separate windows of memtest with 2gb each and no errors. How can I assure that these are stable and will remain like that? I would like to use them on a daily basis. Is it bad for the ram?
Its running at 3800mhz 1900flk and your last checked timings.
Love your work btw!!
First, thank you a ton. Second, don't worry about the ram speed at 3800mhz. The important thing is to keep your voltage under 1.55v due to heat. So have plenty of ventilation.
I like MT5 for a quick memory test. You want to test with memtest86 for a few hours at least. Howevever MT5 as short of a test as it is will give you a pretty idea where your ram stability is at. 5 minutes and it's done.
1900fclk is perfectly fine if your cpu imc can handle it in the first place. No degrading effects there. Over all, enjoy your OC. You're not killing or degrading anything.
@@TechnologyHive Thanks for the reply.
Quick question, have you tried OCing the sam kit to 4000mhz CL16 or CL18 timings? Maybe another video on that?
I have it running currently at 1.4volts as in your video. Literally all the same settings that you found stable.
@@Rehan90 I have a video on running 4000mhz on Ryzen. It's one of my most recent. 3rd from the newest I think?
I have specifically r5 3600 and two of this ram kit 4x8gb 1900FCLK 3800MT/s 16 18 18 24 + carefully adjusted secondaries and tertiaries rock solid stable at 1.39v (with room of improvement), but I've read that manually adjusting ProcOdt, RTTs and cadbus values can do a lot on 4 dimms, but i cannot find any valuable info about it other than "try random values and test", any help?
It would very hard to recommend something without being able to test. But, your settings seem pretty dang good already. And that 3600 should be happy at 3800MT/s.
Found this video, i have the same memory model (well, mine is BL8G36C16U4BL, the final L means LED ;) ), it was very helpful, i was able to push my 4x8 sticks to 3800 CL16 @1.4, stable. I've mostly uploaded on my motherboard BIOS the same values that comes from DRAM Calculator. I tried pushing 3800 and CL14 but TestMem5 gives me errors so i rolled back to CL16, but i'd like to ask you where should i start if i want to lower the latency. I mean, probably i still have some room for improvements, as i'm rock solid at 1.4v, should i lower by 1 the actual latency (from 16-18-18-18 to 15-17-17-17) ? As you may understand i'm not a RAM expert but i can deal with PC not booting and reset to BIOS default . Thanks again for the video, it was really clear and helpful
If you want to tackle latency, then leave your primary timings as they are where it's stable and tweak your sub-timings, as this will improve overall performance in games and applications that are memory sensitive.
Bought the 32GB variant and it has Micron B-die. Not sure if that's better or not. Anyway thanks!
I think that's dual rank what you got so for ryzen 5000 yes it is better.
No, the 32 gb version micron b die its single rank
Hi, I have this kit, been trying to find a second kit for a while here in the UK so I can have 128 Gb. Do you know if there are any timings that are particularly useful to tune to increase productivity workloads? such as matlab, FEM, or anything like that? I actually watched this video before buying this kit a couple of months ago.
you think 4000mhz 1:1 on a 5600x would be achievable?
Yes but I don't think it will stable. You can always try.
Hey whats up... i really like your guide. Any idea on how i can use Thaiphoon on win 11? I can't get the xmp for the dram calculator... or is there another way to get the specs into the Calculator?
Managed to 4000Mhz @CL18 which has pretty decent results on Intel.
Nice job!
Managed to hit 4000Mhz @CL16 on a X570 Gigabyte motherboard and Ryzen 7 5700g. Been playing Cozy Grove at 1440p. Averaging 52 fps.
@@braillynn4903 Very nice mate! well done!
@@Fragil1ty Thank you. I gotta say though. I put about $900 in the computer build(Noctua Fans and Cooler add up) and it still does not perform as well(running Linux) as an off the shelf M1 Mac Mini.
@@braillynn4903 with 4 sticks or only 2?
Hi! I’m fairly new to overclocking, and I have found your video to be extremely helpful! I have similar kit to yours with the same die, but a slightly different part number: BL8G36C16U4B.M8FE1. I see that you are using a Ryzen 3600 and managed to reach a 1900 FLCK with the kit. What’s driving me nuts is the inability of my system with a 3700x + Asus Rog Strix B550-F to post with 3800mHz (1900 FCLK). It has only posted where it was not 1:1:1 ratio. I have loosened timings that are a bit sensitive for a Micron E-die and set the appropriate voltages, but my system just will not post. Am I in an unlucky situation where both my CPU or ram kit are subpar or am I missing a crucial step that will allow for a post and some stability? Your help will be much appreciated. Thank you in advance!
Hello. Unfortunately you're not alone in this voyage. 3800mhz or 1900fclk is not guaranteed with every ryzen 3000 series. Some memory controllers can do it. Others can not. Your cpu memory controller is to blame. But 3600mhz is still a good speed if you tweak out the timings correctly. It can run just as fast as a kit running at 3800mhz. So do not feel discouraged as this is normal. Just play with your timings and you will get equal or better performance 🙂.
@@TechnologyHive Ah man, that’s unfortunate and also expected lol. I’ll for sure try to squeeze out some extra performance at 3600 MHz with some adjusted timings. Thanks for your reply. Glad I came across your channel!
@@SuperBigboybad Glad I could help 🙂
@@SuperBigboybad just for an example, i've had a 3500x that would post to windows with a cheap adata 3200mhz kit above 4000mhz, but now i have a ryzen 3600 that cant even make 4 sticks run at 3800mhz cl16 without going bluescreen, and i have really good ram (hyperx predator 3600mhz xmp and adata d50 4133mhz xmp)... its really unfortunate
@@TechnologyHive help friend I want to know if this model is Crucial Ballistix 3600 MHz DDR4 DRAM (8GBx2) CL16 BL2K8G36C16U4B
I have 32 GB of ballistix Gaming 3600 CL16, beastly RAM
32gb of this stuff is nice especially in newer game titles where 16gb is just barely getting you by now. 👍👍
CPU intel of and bro ?
i run the same stuff i wish it was dual rank dimms they are only 1 row 3800 cl 14 gear 1 b50 tomahawk max trie everything i can get memor write over 30k
I bought the 3000mhz ones and I wanted to know if you think I should be able to just try to over clock them to 3600mhz or should I just pick up some new ones with different timings?
If you can, buy the 3600mhz kit. It's under $100 as of right now. But if that is not an option, the 3000mhz kit should do you well, depending on the motherboard and cpu.
What performance difference would you estimate i would see if I OC this kit at 4000Mhz combined with the Ryzen 5600g with the integrated graphics.
Asking the same thing, got the 3200CL16 kit and wanted to hit 4000CL18. FLCK on the 5600G apparently can get up to like 2200+ MHz somehow.
Hey! Thank you so much for your banger vid, you're gonna save me alot of money, i just need some guidance if you can help me real quick.
I'm going to build a new rig soon, at first i wanted to go with the crucial ram 32 GB 3600HZ CL16 but they are expensive as F here, so i tought about getting the 32 GB 3200HZ CL 16 and overclock them to 3600HZ, so a 400HZ bump, would that be feasible?
Anyways, thanks for your vid mate, banger.
Micron for a long time held the highest ram oc record. Idk if they still do. Going from 3200mhz to 3600mhz is possible yes. But it is the timing you'd have to fiddle with a bit. Namely tRCDRD. Don't go over 1.5v for the ram btw.
@@TechnologyHive Ok, thank you so much mate. Last question, do you think timing of 16-18-18-36 are possible?
@@tomhenry2310 if not then try 16-19-19-19-39 or 16-19-18-18-39
@@TechnologyHive Thank you very much mate.
oof i got the Single Rank version with mine, 2 16gb sticks, but the performance is still there not sure if its worth returning to get the dual rank ones
Single Rank is better, you can get a higher freq with 4 sticks than dual rank in 4 sticks.
in real world, it doesn't even matter.
Btw I think there is no more dual-rank anyway unless you find it manufactured before a year or so.
I've got the 32gb version at 3200mhz CL16.
Any recommendations?
X570 Tomahawk with a 3600
Check out the ryzen calculator
MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS + Ryzen 5 5600X + BL2K8G36C16U4B What stable settings would u recomend for that ?
thanks
I got 64 GB of Crucial Ballistix 3600Mhz CL16 and Asus ROG Strix X570-E and i cant enable DOCP, it failed 3 times. Any idea what can be the issue ?
I've covered this many times in the comments lol. But, it's okei I'll explain it once more. XMP is not guaranteed with all dimms loaded. If you have 16gb x4, your motherboard most likely does not support xmp 3600mhz in with all dimm slots occupied. Check you motherboard manufacturers website for ram support configuration, and limitations.
@@TechnologyHive Thanks for reply, well there are 2 x 32 Gb and it still doesn't work. Regarding the MOBO in QVL there are lower GB models like 16 GB and 8 GB but the 64 GB kit is not included although it should be the same architecture and speeds. This might be the cause ?
@@CurseOfDeath Yes that can also be a limitation. Check your board specs. But don't feel discouraged. It is quiet normal for these limitations to restrict memory speeds. I'd try 3200mhz and just tweak the timings. If that still does not work, try 3000mhz and tweak the subtimings. Your performance will be equal to 3600mhz with the right timings in place.
@@TechnologyHive Okay i might try again, I'm afraid to not brick the Mobo while trying as so far it when it failed it brought me back to BIOS window, but i heard that it also possible to stop boot at all and then i need to bring it to a service. Thanks a lot for your suport.
BEST VIDEO FOR RAM OC!!!!!!!!!!!! GRACIAS!!!
De nada! Gracias por mirar el video! 🙂
thinking to buy it, is it possible to go uptil 4400mhz or 4800mhz stable on ryzen ? subscribing u now !
I can,t even run on de xmp profile with this sticks. No post. Need to reset cmos. What i,am doing wrong? System: 5900x, rtx, 4x8gb, nzxt b550 firmware 1.3(no QVL). I run at 3400mhz the rest stock xmp now. Can i try 1.4v and 3600mhz? Thanks.
See your motherboard specs for 4 dimm support. A lot of boards won't boot with all 4 memory dimms populated. Try with just two sticks.
@@TechnologyHiveThanks for your response! In the manual the only thing i can find is this: Memory 4 * DIMM, Max. 128GB, DDR4 Dual-channel memory architecture
For the rest i could not find anything noting that it only supports 2 dimms for xmp.
@@BenjaminWassink Try enabling xmp with only two dimms. It should work then.
@@TechnologyHive Hi did test it on both dual slots a1+b1 and a2+b2 with no succes. Cmos reset and only xmp enable. The weird think is that it would not try to boot in windows. There is no bios post at all.
Update: I,am running now at 3533mhz 1.4v 16-18-16-36 stable (dram call and memtest), read: 54162 write: 53348 Copy: 51340: Latency: 60.8. If i go lower on the volts it would bsod. If i go tighter on the timings i get errors. No matter what i tried, 3600mhz (xmp and manual) doesn't work, 10x training no post, volts 1.35 till 1.42, dram call alts, ect. Somthing on the mobo doesn't like this speed i think. I seen more people talking about xmp and b550 boards not posting. Any advice on my timings?
I couldn't find better ram. $120 CAD for 3600MHz CL16 will pair nicely with my 5900X. Any other ram you find comparable to price and speed ?
I plan to use it with a Chromax D15 so these should be low profile enough, close to Corsair's LPX (I think?).
They are low profile yes. Also, check out the G.Skill aegis kit. It is Samsung D die, at least mine were. Excellent deal if you overclock them to 3600mhz. I made a video on the detailing process. Worth the money 💵💸👍
Did they fit with your D15 cooler? I've never used a cooler this big. Can you remove the ram without removing the cooler (all DIMM slots)? I'm looking at the same ram and a D15S cooler.
@@TheRemmuh d15s doesn't come with front fan so the ram clearance is a lot greater than the d15's. 65mm ram clearance for d15s. so most ram can fit with that beast installed. hope that helps
@@crisadriancruzat5428 Thanks. I ended up going with the D15S. There's a lot of space for ram clearance.
have the same exact ram. what programs you recommend i should install to overclock my ram?
hey, purchased 2x8gb of crucial ballistix 3200Mhz CL16, reddit people claiming the kit is micron E-die aswell, can I expect similar results?
Also, is it practically the same kit, just the clock from the factory is lower one one kit, since they both have the same die?
Thanks
3600 is better binned since they use the same timings but your kit should still do 3800/4000gbit without issue, it may just be looser.
should i buy this ram for 5600x ?Or you can suggest me something better in this price? :P My motherboard is MSI MPG B550 Gaming plus
You are looking at the best ram for Ryzen at this price range. This is it. 👍
@@TechnologyHive okay thanks
Hi Technology Hive, any chance you can upload that profile for the ram? I have the same ram, or maybe you tell me how to download it. thanks!
Surprisingly, my latency is 61.3 using 2 stick of single rank+ 2 stick of dual rank of this same RAM 16GB cl16 with XMP 3600, the only thing I've changed from my MSI b550 tomahawk is the tRFC from 991 to 631 and tRC from 84 to 58 which both for some reason sted wrong on my bios and didn't read from the XMP value.
My read is 54024MB and my copy 495020MB, with 5950x, probably zen 3 has better latency than zen2.
Hi, I just want to ask if I can do this ram configuration with a 5000 series cpu? thanks
yes you can
My PC not booting up at all when i go from xmp 3600 to 3800 in 1:1 only 1:0.95 works, im not sure what i’m doing wrong and having to keep taking the cmos battery out is getting annoying
You should have a jumper marked CLR CMOS on your board. Just use a flathead screw driver for the jumper with the pc turned off.
What CPU, and motherboard do you have?
@@TechnologyHive Yes I saw that but was too scared to do it since I was already familiar with removing the battery,
I have a 5900x with a MSI Mag X570-S tomahawk wifi
@@TechnologyHive it’s weird because i was able to boot up on 3800 with 3600 xmp timings but the Flck was at 1800 and UCLK was at 900
@Alex have you updated to latest bios? If not, please do so. Also, set the fclk manually and the uclk should follow. If not, manually set uclk to 1900 as well and make sure your soc has plenty of power. 1.05 or 1.100 should do.
@@TechnologyHive Yes BIOS is updated to the latest version. The issues arises when i set the FCLK manually, that’s when the pc doesn’t boot up, i only set DRAM voltage to 1.35 to make sure it has enough
Will it work on a MSI A520 motherboard with a ryzen 3 4350g?
It will work just fine.
Hi, can i check with u is CL14-18-18-35 better or cl 16-18-18-36 ? i tried OC-ing my ballistix RGB 3200mhz to CL14 timing. was wondering is that better? Thanks!
I know RAM manufacturers put tCL first, but actually your greatest performance improvement comes from tighter tRCDRD, and subtimings. Being what I assume to be Micron E revision IC's in your ram kit, tRCDRD 17 will be the tightest I've gotten. So if you can get 14.17.17.17.36 it would be great.
If not, 16.18.18.18.36 tRC 56, tRFC 580, tFAW 26, tCWL 16 should yeild good results. Volts @1.4👍 try that let me know...
@@TechnologyHive Forgot to mention I'm on intel system. I tried your timing and booted to windows but had a BSOD xD do u suggest I should stick with cl 14 CD trcd 18 trp 18 tras 35? Or try other timings?
Honestly CL14 combined with a 18 tRCDRD won't boost performance much. I'd go for 16-18-18-18-36, tRC 60, tRFC 580. Then focus on frequency since you're on Intel, you're frequency is not limited like it is on Ryzen due to infinity fabric 1:1 ratio. But then again I don't know what cpu you have, motherboard or memory model number.
If you want you can try CL14-18-18-18136 but performance will so minimal it will be hardly worth the time.
@@TechnologyHive sorry my specs are i9 10850k 5ghz. Z490 msi gaming plus(latest bios) Manage to get stable 5ghz that's why my hands are itchy for better ram speed and timings haha.. My best was xmp profile and 3700mhz. 1.35v.. Gonna try more timing before I settle down. 😂
@@Mint-rt6hl What is your RAM model number?
rev e can run 1.45/1.5 vdim thought only do it with a cheater fan
Is this kit compatible with rog strix x570 gaming -e? The official vendors website confirm 100% compatability with all of the ballistix dimms except the 8bg 3600.. Anyone knows why?
Edit: When you entered bios you answered my question.. Seems the 3rd party sites are more well-prepared than the official ones.
I got the B550 TUF and it works great, 4x8GB sticks and dropped to CL14 no problem.
@@sonicwingnut thanks a lot.. This means I can get two more when possible without any problem.. Thank you!
Thanks for the review, can't find eng interface for testmemory5, could you please link me to yours?
www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/
@@TechnologyHive Thanks m8!
@@mhnoni No problem 😊👍
Tnx for great tutorial, i have same kit plus gskill trident z F4-3600C16D-16GTZ DDR4-3600MHz CL16-16-16-36 1.35V
16GB (2x8GB) so 32gb total.. i followed you but cannot boot with stable timings.. do you have any suggestions? anyway with enabled xmp default settings timings are 18 18 18 38 and aida bench. latency 70.6 read around 46k copy around 47... tnx!
If you're loading all memory banks or dimms, your board will likely not like it and refuse to post. Look up "memory topology". This will explain what's going on.
@@TechnologyHive I managed to go 3800mhz 16 18 18 36 timing.. 53k read 53k write and 68 latency... but this geek bench is showing much lower results for me single score is 1242 and multi core 7889 ryzen 5 3600.. cinebench r12 around 1650 pts... fyi im using geekbench version 5 i see you are using version 3 maybe they changed points calculation
@@nikebafe Yes that is the case. Congrats btw. 3800mhz is strong. But check stability with prime95. 1hr min. Large ffts.
@@TechnologyHive tnx i will return with results.. yes looks like they changed scoring on geek bench
@@TechnologyHive Unfortunately it says hardware failure 1 error :(
Hi. I have the same kit and can overclock just the same, all apart from the command rate.
I see you have it a 1T (N1 on MSI boards) and yet I cannot do that. If I choose N1 the memory OC fails.
Which msi board? 1T, tRC 60, tRFC 497, 1.45v
@@TechnologyHive Z490 gaming edge.
Really strange that it takes all the settings bar that one.
@@mrmrgaming But then again it has a lot to do with the IMC. For example Samsung B-DIE is really heavy on IMCs. Intel and AMD IMCs take a different approach at the same concept. So a setting that works on AMD might not work with Intel. And also your chip just might have a poor IMC. Silicone lottery.
@@TechnologyHive Yeah I guess it could be that. Just odd that that's the only setting that will not take.
Will keep at it :-)
It is a myth. The intel 12700k also benefits greatly from fast tightened ram.
Get around the same boost in fps as amd. Less
Latency is just always good.
That's Intel's latest gen on a new process node. There was a significant difference with fast vs. slow RAM on 7nm Zen 2/3 (or even 12nm Zen+) compared to 14nm Intel. Things may have changed recently but it was not a myth as you say.
what do you think is better ? the ballistix or the ripjaws v that you have for overclock and overall performance ?
I like the Balistix kit, so id choose it. But it depends on the ICs. Samsung B-Die is, for the most part, is a better overclocking kit. But Micron E revision is also a good chip.
If I did not know the ICs in the kit and I had to pick one, I'd go for the Ballistix kit, as I'm more likely to get E revision, vs Ripjaws where it could be Hynix, or Samsung D-die. Hard to tell really.
also your b-die ripjaws are the F4-3200C16D-16GVKB ?
@@ttvbtwttvbtw5627 That's most likely Samsung D-die.
@@TechnologyHive i want to finish my build with a 5600x and b550 tomahawk. i already have a 2060 from zotac. im searching and searching which one is the best ram for the buck and overclocking.im between those two . the micron ones are 20 euros more expensive in my country(for cl16 3600, the 3200mhz cl16 is the same price) and they have a 30 day delivery and ripjaws v (F4-3200C16D-16GVKB) are available right now to purchase. i dk what to do ... can you help me plz ? also i heard that the timings and mhz speeds dont metter too much on pcs like mine... they have a better difference on high end pcs like a 5900 x with a 3080. ive also seen that dual rank memorys realdy do extract some more performance out of those ryzen 5000 chips.(5-10%) . i would really really appreciate if you helped me... thx
@ttvbtw ttvbtw Grab the Ripjaws. Either kit you buy, you'll be happy with, I'm sure. Ryzen 3 makes good use of higher memory speeds 3200mhz and up, as well as tight timings. 16-18-18-18-36 @3200mhz is good enough. You won't regret it.
Ram us going up 25% next quarter apparently
Yes I heard the same. Probably sync with the release of DDR5...gees wonder why they would that...😂 Pure manipulation.
well now those 2 do, back in the day Toshiba dominated RAM
hi im planning on buy a build on b550 tomahawk r7 3700 any tips
This ram will work great. Also the B550 tomahawk is very very nice motherboard. The VRM is one of the best, rivaling a lot more expensive X570 boards. Also the memory overclocking on that board is excellent. Good choice of parts.
@@TechnologyHive been study via gamers nexus & hardware unboxed for a week :)
@@serenychhor6095 Those are good sources. Very knowledgeable UA-cam channels 👍😊
Is Kingston BEAST Fury RAM Micron E-die or Samsung B-die?
Una pregunta . ¿Esta configuración funciona en una placa madre asus prime a520m-k ? .Pregunto porque es una gama de entrada y no se si soporta overclok de ram.
Honestamente no se. Pero si tiene la opción para xmp, trata para ver si funciona.
@@TechnologyHive ok voy a probar .Tus videos son muy buenos ,sigue así. 👍
DDR4 16GB (2x8), Crucial, 3200MHz, Ballistix White, BL2K8G32C16U4W
If I take this 3200MHz ram, can I oc it to 3600MHz? Like this ram is best I can get for 200€.
I can't guarantee you can overclock it at all. But it is possible yes, if you have the right cpu, motherboard, and knowledge. 3000 and 5000 series AMD cpus have good memory controllers. 5000 series are better IMO.
have the same kit, will adding 2 more 8gb sticks be better than 2x16?
No. 4x8 adds more strain on you imc. Whereas 2x16 does not, as you're only using 2 out of 4 dimms. Most boards even say that in the spec sheets. 👍
Hi I'm just reading this... the maker of the video is completely wrong. Most of these crucial ram sticks are now "single rank". 8gb x 4 will have extremely similar results to the rare 16gb x 2 dual rank. For gaming, 8gb x 4 will yield better fps than 16 x 2. I've personally tried both variations of this set up, using this ram. You can also find videos of 16x2 vs 8x4 on UA-cam here. 8x4 will win every time.
@@kevintuns2324 Not every board and not every imc can handle 4 dimms at 3600mhz. Your system will likely not boot or just be unstable. What works for you may not work for others.
@@TechnologyHive if someone's buying 3600 c16, they'd have a modern board. What kindve modern board isn't handling it?
@@kevintuns2324 You're assuming. Many boards, even "modern" boards like B550 boards do not support 3600mhz speed kits with all 4 dimms loaded. People often go and buy 4x8 3600mhz kits, install it and then wonder why the system does not boot. I'd recommend looking at the board's manufacturer website before buying 4x8 kits for support details. It often clearly states there what the max supported frequency is with all dimms loaded.
I bought mine around the time u posted the video, the price was so little over the 3200 rated that it was crazy not to buy them in my case
What do you think about the kit? 😊
@@TechnologyHive imo is the best option in a lot of countries for the people who don't care about RBG and want some good ram, maybe other kit like corsair vengeance could be around the same price in other zones but here they're like 15% more expensive so Ballistix 3600 MHz 16 gb here it's for me.
Also the difference here between 3200 and 3600 ballistix was just 3% in price.
@@Elicabas1768 No se si sabes que hablo Español 😊. Yes it's true. I myself couldnt care less about rgb. A lot of kits put there look all pretty but run like junk. This is the best bang for the buck in my humble opinion. 👍
@@TechnologyHive where did you download this XMP file for this memory?
I have the same 2x8GB 3600MHz CL16 only white
@@Spioszek I did not download this profile as that is not possible to do. I used the Ryzen calculator to adjust the timings. I have a video on my channel that exaplins the process 😊👍.
whats a safe 24/7 voltage for micron e die ? just picked up this exact ram kit.
I've seen kits at 1.55v. The crucial 5000mhz kits run that voltage I believe.
Will this apply the same for intel i711700k
Nice video by the way
It should. I say it should because the cpu's memory controller and motherboard topology plays a big role. What works in my setup may not work for someone else with the same exact hardware. Silicone lottery.
i have the same kit, but i can psuh them over 3200Mhz. any help here??? i have a tus z490, with a 11600k cpu.
Have you updated the board bios? Usually brings better memory compatibility. Sounds strange that it does not enable the 3600mhz XMP profile.
@@TechnologyHive i had to update imidiatly de the bios so i could run the i5 11600k. so i think so.
if i activate xmp profile, it doesnt boot. so i did OC changes by the aisuit 3, and it make then run at 3200mhz, if i change it for, example, 3300mhz, it stops booting again.
@@timacofe Are you running gear 1 or 2?
@@TechnologyHive sry, but i dont know what is that... im using dual channel, is that it?
Good for intel 10700k rtx 3080 ?
It will work fine. Nice boost in games.
yikes 90ns i got the same dram just red d.o.c.p and got 55ns on r5 5600x bl2k8g36c16u4r
90 ns at jedec specs. 👍
is it a dual-channel ram?
This is a dual channel kit yes.
@@TechnologyHive thanks
can i run this kit at least 3200mhz with a ryzen 2600 and gigabyte b350 mobo
Micron/Crucial has very good vetting/binning of their memory kits to make sure they are compatible with most systems out there even when not on a QVL from my experience.
But the B350 chipset is not known for playing well with ram speeds over 3000mhz. Perhaps new agesa updates have fixed that for your particular board, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
My R5 2600 will do 3600mhz memory perfectly fine on my B550 boards. But as soon as it goes in my old B350 board its stuck at 3000mhz ram speeds 😕.
@@TechnologyHive yeah that's a bummer and most gigabyte mobos are pretty shady when come to volatge/memory support specially b350 and b450 and my gigabyte ab350-d3h is weird because with my older 1600 i can push over 1.5v but now with a 2600 im stuck max 1.4v even i raise my mobo max voltage idk why, im using latest version bios and i change my bios but the result is same and also the vram of the mobo is pretty bad even pair with a 2600 which is a 6 core cpu i see max vram temp reach 110c when i run cinebech r23, but i dnt stress my cpu that much so for gaming its not a problem, bdw memory oc is not depended on the imc of the cpu not the chipset right because if you pair 3600/3600x you can push easily 3600mhz ram speed even with a320 mobo easily and i dnt think a320 memory support is as good as b350, ig its something to do with older gen ryzen because memory support was first zen nightmare evn tho zen+ you can push over 3200 or can reach 3200 without too many tweaks in bios but ig again it depend which brand b350 you using, i saw a guy who push 3466mhz with his msi b350 pair with a 1700x and we all know first zen ryzen its so hard to get even sable 3200mhz, how you running a 2000 series cpu with a b550? b550 is not support only 3000 and 5000 series cpu?
@@Ryzen-gh1en The Gigabyte B550M S2H motherboard works fine with the 2600. It won't run my R5 1600 though. The memory overclocking on that board is also one of the best since it's only 2 dimms. It can reach 5100mhz oc memory. I've had it at 4800mhz with some crucial sticks. Superb board. With B350 chipset it also depends on the silicone lottery. Some chips do good, others don't.
@@TechnologyHive i check cpu support list on B550M S2H but sadly they dnt mention any 2000 series cpu support list, if i upgrade a 5600x/5800x in future i guess 4 dimms slot is better then 2 slot because you get more memory bandwidth and GN tested with 5000 series ryzen pair with 4 ram sticks you get better frame compare to 2 ram stick, i can run my 2400mhz at 3000mhz if i pair 4 and 3 dimm slot but it is recommended that i use 2 and 1 where im stuck 2933mhz with procODT 80, if i put it less then 80 it wont even boot stable idk why, my problem is it was stable almost 2 years but now my ram dnt even work properly, i switch different slot but it wont post, after so many times i remove and then put it back it work but sometimes one stick work like bios shows 16gb but in windows only 8gb shows, idk it is my mobo issue or ram and does raise the voltage and procODT can degraded the ram IC?
@@Ryzen-gh1en if you watch my latest video, "R5 2600 vs R5 5600x" video, the board I used was the Gigabyte B550M S2H 👍. It doesn't say on the website, but 100% it supports it. Just update the bios. It comes with bios flashback so you can do it without a cpu installed. 👍👍
Is 32gb (2x16gb) micron b-die or e-die?
They mix them. You can buy and keep returning to Amazon trying to get b die. B die is quite rare at this point.
@@kevintuns2324 Thx. It came E-Die. Lucky!
Got 53 ns with mine at 3800, also paired with a 10900k @ 4.8 GHz so idk if that affects latency
Hello ! I have 2 KITs of Crucial Ballistix BL2K16G36C16U4B 32GB(2x16) 3600MHz CL16. One of them is .M8FB1, and the other .M16FE1.
So i have 2 kits of 32GB each, one kit of 2x16GB (both of the memory sticks are the same, not to be misunderstood) is labeled as M8FB1 and one kit of 2x16GB (same, both are the same)is M16FE1.
Which would be better for a Ryzen 7 5700G? And for Overclocking?
I want to mention that I have some problems with trying to overclock the M16FE1.The memory latency is 400 ns when I try to overclock them sometimes even though it posts and sometimes even with XMP activated it becomes 300-400 ns.
What should I do ?
bro wtf a corsair AIO
I got mine to 3800 16-18-16-16-36 trc 54 tfaw 16 trfc 546 @ 1.45 V
That's real good! What's your AIDA64 scores?
@@TechnologyHive I have the trial version but I got 55295 MB/s write speed and 57.1 ns of latency
That's real good man 😊👍.
i recently do some ram overclocking and here's the actual result. ua-cam.com/video/y6xzr1FwGQo/v-deo.html
DRAM calculator is a piece of garbage. The DRAM calculator relies on users identifying their own memory ICs, via Thaiphoon Burner. Thaiphoon is fairly rubbish -it's not a real memory IC detector, it just reads the SPD and matches it to a database of serial codes. Problem is that memory vendors will swap the memory ICs used in their high-speed kits from initial release, sometimes 2-3x, and Thaiphoon Burner will still read out the original IC.
Do you have any better options?
Lol. This is a terrible guide.
Make a video and show us newbies how it's done 😉
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