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  • Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
  • Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate discuss the worsening fallout from Joe Biden's debate disaster, UK election results, the announcement of massive Israeli land thefts, and more.

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  • @geraldtraynor
    @geraldtraynor 3 місяці тому +54

    Starmer's apparent banality and crass stupidity should not lead to underestimating the level of pure evil he represents. He remains dangerous.

  • @DrRobinus
    @DrRobinus 3 місяці тому +136

    Max Blumenthal is a shining light in a dark void. Pure genius. A font of world knowledge. Among other things, as an American, his grip of the recent goings on in British politics is astounding.

  • @enzahmltn121
    @enzahmltn121 3 місяці тому +50

    I felt so down after UK general election but the GZ gives me hope and ur work is fighting to speak the truth, thank you!

    • @AtheistEve
      @AtheistEve 3 місяці тому

      The Green Party won all four of their target seats.

  • @ericcraw
    @ericcraw 3 місяці тому +79

    Appreciate how the GZ team traces everything back and exposes the absurdity of it all.✌️Eric

  • @Ash-gj8hd
    @Ash-gj8hd 3 місяці тому +177

    MAX and AARON are the most courageous people who are loved by millions around the world and will go down in history as a resistance against the zionist state of Israel and a voice for the voiceless children of GAZA who are being massacred with their families in this deliberate GENOCIDE,

    • @honestyfirst3994
      @honestyfirst3994 3 місяці тому +5

      Very well said!

    • @phelanmarkj
      @phelanmarkj 3 місяці тому

      pretending the usa isn't ordering the temporary zionist colony to do everything it is doing or has ever done is ridiculous..

    • @phelanmarkj
      @phelanmarkj 3 місяці тому

      comparing or equating the zionist entity with china is grotesque..

    • @missktofdk
      @missktofdk 2 місяці тому +2

      Agree ❤

    • @kanonierable
      @kanonierable 2 місяці тому

      Palestinian dead in Gaza now over 186'000 according to the British Medical Journal "The Lancet".

  • @peterhixon371
    @peterhixon371 3 місяці тому +52

    It is good to hear the dejection and pathos in the words of these educated and principled young men.
    Without gentle men such as these, there is little hope for anything other than fascism in our world today and war in our world tomorrow.
    Fight the good fight Aaron and Max, you are a light in the darkness of political chicanery

    • @VickiNikolaidis
      @VickiNikolaidis 3 місяці тому +2

      And also, Kit. Very courageous, bright young men

  • @jeffhicks8428
    @jeffhicks8428 3 місяці тому +138

    Kit is an excellent addition to the Grayzone. Really enjoying his Active Measures show. Excellent work. Max is one of the very few Americans respected and adored around the world for his courageous work and a legitimate luminary. His books are always cutting edge and way ahead of the curve. Up the Grayzone.

    • @susmith7837
      @susmith7837 3 місяці тому +11

      Kit supplied the intelligence on the MI6 attack on the Kerch Bridge. Had a proposal they'd circulated published even before Feb 22.

    • @Helmy67
      @Helmy67 3 місяці тому +9

      And Aaron as well 👍

    • @manbearpig7521
      @manbearpig7521 3 місяці тому +4

      Is Kit on a show called Active Measures. Must tune in.

    • @FindingHolm
      @FindingHolm 3 місяці тому

      @@manbearpig7521agreed! It’s a great show! 🎉

    • @FindingHolm
      @FindingHolm 3 місяці тому +1

      Active Measures is a great show & always breakdown their shows to segments of around 10-15mins which is very much appreciated 🎉

  •  3 місяці тому +42

    Gray zone is keeping me sane

  • @dimirockeropoulos6104
    @dimirockeropoulos6104 3 місяці тому +78

    So refreshing to hear from real journalists.

  • @katepetersen1283
    @katepetersen1283 3 місяці тому +59

    Listening to you restores my sanity. Literally. Thank you for all your work, know that it is incredibly appreciated.

  • @jackfruitearth702
    @jackfruitearth702 3 місяці тому +71

    Grayzone - you don't have to apologize. (You tell the truth, and we appreciate that.)

  • @Concerned63Citizen
    @Concerned63Citizen 3 місяці тому +92

    I'm so upset about George Galloway losing. The "Lobby" must have really been busy.....$$$$

    • @Joann8225
      @Joann8225 3 місяці тому +17

      Me too 😭💔

    • @andrewteasdale8999
      @andrewteasdale8999 3 місяці тому +13

      Galloway is a force for certain.

    • @promark5317
      @promark5317 3 місяці тому

      That whole UK election was disheartening across the board. I know it's a US vassal, so it really doesn't matter much but it still sucks. There is no real left with any meaningful influence anymore.

    • @jjutt87
      @jjutt87 3 місяці тому +9

      What - how? Didn't he just get in there?

    • @Human-le9nt
      @Human-le9nt 3 місяці тому

      He got no media coverage while Reform and Fart-arse was all the time on. Also, the Communist Party, Plaid Cymry and Sinn Fein were not on radar at all. Nor did any of the independents, left, right or centre. Protests against the on-going genocide was framed as Gaza and Muslim voter issue, not a universal human rights and war criminal issue. Meanwhile, the UK managed to delay ICJ arrest warrants. Disgraceful.

  • @thetubeschannel
    @thetubeschannel 3 місяці тому +53

    You guys are the Real News source that on over the air channel would never dare provide. A wealth of information every time. Thank you !

  • @staticcouch135
    @staticcouch135 3 місяці тому +44

    He will forever be remembered as Kid Starver PM of Failing Britain.

    • @manbearpig7521
      @manbearpig7521 3 місяці тому +4

      I know. Couldn't even be arsed lifting the two child tax credits limits.

  • @vgstb
    @vgstb 3 місяці тому +56

    Kier Starmer likes to state that his dad was a tool maker, when in fact his dad was the owner of the tool maker factory.

    • @Wraithing
      @Wraithing 3 місяці тому +10

      Now Kier's become 'King of the Tools!'
      😂😂😫😢😢😵‍💫🤢

    • @D_B_Cooper
      @D_B_Cooper 3 місяці тому +15

      He did create Keir who is a massive tool

    • @marypagac305
      @marypagac305 2 місяці тому

      @@D_B_Cooper🤣🤣Good one 👍🏼

  • @chrisreeves9764
    @chrisreeves9764 3 місяці тому +33

    I'm English in the UK and knew about Starmer and Saville but had no idea about him and MI5 and MI6. This is why I watch the Grayzone. If you could do more on the UK that would be terrific. We need help over the next few years but I sense something is going to happen to change the game and get the US and UK our freedom back. The mask is off, more and more people see what is really happening and the elites are on the back foot. Independent MPS elected in the UK and Reforms 5 MPs is almost impossible with the UK election system so we are going in the right direction.

    • @elpirata2685
      @elpirata2685 3 місяці тому +8

      I am also in the UK. The number of people voting for Labour has decreased since their landslide defeat of '19.
      I see little to be positive about with REFUK's electoral gains. Farage and Co are establishment through and through, and in terms of rhetoric are fascist- adjacent. Reform gained 0.8% of the seats with 14% of the vote. Labour got 64% of the seats with 34% of the vote. Much as I despise Reform, their representation in parliament is disproportionately low. Not in the media though.
      Let's also note that most of the "antisemites" purged from Labour were Jews...
      If there is any positive it is this: The Tory sandcastle victory of '19 in many ways reflects Labour's sandcastle victory of '24. There is a vacuum for the real left to fill. And this can break the 2 party strangle-hold on power in '28- if we organise now.

    • @vgstb
      @vgstb 3 місяці тому +1

      @@elpirata2685 the landslide defeat of 2019 was in large part due to the sabotaging actions of the Starmer clan.

    • @chrisreeves9764
      @chrisreeves9764 3 місяці тому +2

      @@elpirata2685Fascist adjacent. Guffaw

    • @elpirata2685
      @elpirata2685 3 місяці тому

      @@chrisreeves9764 scapegoating of immigrants and Muslims while offering tax cuts to the elite, ultra-nationalism, nostalgia for a mythical golden era when Britain was Great, cult of personality, preoccupation with law and order, rampant misogyny and racism, support for genocide. Fascist-adjacent.

    • @Wraithing
      @Wraithing 3 місяці тому +2

      @chrisreeves9764 - Lowkey is good to listen to about Starmer's security service links, also Paul Holden's new book looks like it's going to be rather interesting.

  • @numbersix8919
    @numbersix8919 3 місяці тому +27

    The Grayzone is the standard for independent journalism. (Journalism in general, these days.)

    • @jjutt87
      @jjutt87 3 місяці тому +2

      Bar none!! A lot of indy pundits out there - but very few journalists..

  • @Pomegranate_David
    @Pomegranate_David 2 місяці тому +5

    Thank God for Kit Klarenberg. It's great to see him on this stream after so long.

  • @SallyValjean
    @SallyValjean 3 місяці тому +95

    Great program as usual! Thank you Max, Aaron, and Kit for your work! Very educational. 💚💚💚

  • @allyscott1590
    @allyscott1590 2 місяці тому +2

    God bless the Grayzone. Love to all of you.
    Stay strong, clear minded and free. You are vital

  • @glengrant3884
    @glengrant3884 3 місяці тому +40

    GREAT WORK GUYS!!💥💪
    SHINE BRIGHT!!💥🙌💯
    AUSTRALIA!!🤍💙❤️👊

    • @lmac9718
      @lmac9718 3 місяці тому

      Australia = land never ceded ❤️💛🖤

  • @theresabarzee1463
    @theresabarzee1463 3 місяці тому +22

    Kit rips the presentations every time! Thx gobs.

  • @blue-eyedbluesboy3405
    @blue-eyedbluesboy3405 3 місяці тому +8

    Thank you @TheGrayzone for putting in the time and effort to keep bringing we viewers the highest quality independent news reporting hands-down. You are tremendously appreciated. Keep up the good fight!

  • @yvonnecampbell8832
    @yvonnecampbell8832 2 місяці тому +3

    Brilliant drop of political analysis, so succiently worded snd brilliantly spoke by Max and Aaron. What a gift. I wish i could give more. Keep on trucking through the muck. You two are truth tellers.

  • @PerceivedREALITY999
    @PerceivedREALITY999 3 місяці тому +229

    Instead of arming Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan; US tax payer money should be spent on infrastructure, healthcare, education, homelessness.....

    • @user-viceroy
      @user-viceroy 3 місяці тому +18

      I wouldn’t count on any of them getting off the gravy train 💰

    • @PerceivedREALITY999
      @PerceivedREALITY999 3 місяці тому +18

      @@user-viceroy Nothing will change until heads begin to roll.

    • @hairlessape5107
      @hairlessape5107 3 місяці тому +6

      You must spend quite a bit of time doing this, it's appreciated.

    • @mimosveta
      @mimosveta 3 місяці тому +3

      perceivedREALITY999 fore POTUS

    • @TheHedgehogsDelimma
      @TheHedgehogsDelimma 3 місяці тому +3

      Wishing and empty thinking... it isn't going to happen. Heads won't roll, but my eyes sure are.

  • @susiegreaves7283
    @susiegreaves7283 3 місяці тому +51

    'If Israel didn't exist, the US would have to invent it'!!!! Biden does not even see the irony of this statement. Like so many politicians, he really is not very clever. But for me, this is an extraordinary quote. Thank you Grayzone, for always informing me with interesting material.

    • @matane2465
      @matane2465 3 місяці тому +7

      The U.S. did invent it.

    • @susiegreaves7283
      @susiegreaves7283 3 місяці тому +9

      Yes...I understand that. My point was that Biden clearly did not see it, as he is really not very clever.

    • @punapeter
      @punapeter 3 місяці тому

      @@matane2465 no the Brits made it up.
      Balfore Declaration 1917? U$ came in in 48' after the Nakba and the Zionazid took over.
      It's a sick co-dependent relationship.
      "Family Rules Based Order Values" NWO

    • @donnrutherford7059
      @donnrutherford7059 2 місяці тому

      Yes it has been a work in progress since the late 1800

    • @donnavorce8856
      @donnavorce8856 2 місяці тому

      Well actually it was the UK but we're in lockstep since W W2 ​@@matane2465

  • @darkrider962
    @darkrider962 3 місяці тому +43

    As always, great content Max and Aaron!
    You both are two of my heroes of journalism and justice!

  • @Kamila10ish
    @Kamila10ish 3 місяці тому +6

    Max and arron, please continue. we really love your analysis, and you have so much respect everywhere in the world . ❤

  • @PerceivedREALITY999
    @PerceivedREALITY999 3 місяці тому +57

    Thank you Grayzone. Independent journalists with journalistic integrity are the heroes of our time.

    • @krischanlive
      @krischanlive 3 місяці тому +2

      Thank you, it is so important to keep repeating the same textfile comments, we appreciate your sacrifice. Dedicating ALL your time to posting platitudes, having no life at all.. you are a hero, thank you for taking real action.

    • @punapeter
      @punapeter 3 місяці тому

      @@krischanlive I think it's ChatGPT, in China but lists Aus. These troll accounts are ending YT. Just another George Floyd Day of sobriety counter troll.
      As demented as all the MAGA Zionist redblue Genocide Joe Don the ConVICT Influencer fans.

    • @PerceivedREALITY999
      @PerceivedREALITY999 3 місяці тому

      @@krischanlive Take a hike uloser

    • @HMM-h6g
      @HMM-h6g 3 місяці тому +2

      @@krischanlive don’t be mean.

  • @paulmicks7097
    @paulmicks7097 3 місяці тому +23

    Great discussion gentlemen.

  • @chipsnmydip
    @chipsnmydip 3 місяці тому +20

    Kit was great! Really interesting stuff about Starmer! In a reasonably just world anyone involved in blocking the Saville case would be blacklisted.

    • @thewhitelodgery
      @thewhitelodgery 3 місяці тому

      Fuckin disgusting :/

    • @dfordiligence2398
      @dfordiligence2398 3 місяці тому

      Please stop being so gullible. Starmer did not block the Savile case, the CPS did not destroy all records of the Surrey Police investigation into Savile, and Savile has never been proven guilty of any of the allegations.

  • @paulbo9033
    @paulbo9033 3 місяці тому +14

    Brit here. It wont be worse. Granted it won't be much better either. But other than that he is correct on all counts. Starmer's Labour is truly awful.

  • @barryhoward2174
    @barryhoward2174 3 місяці тому +12

    UK resident here. Great analysis by Kit. All pretty depressing with a few glimmers of hope. Now that Starmer has to actually do something, hopefully the illusions will be shattered. Hopefully!

  • @sicpuppie4058
    @sicpuppie4058 3 місяці тому +17

    I ❤the grayzone. Stay safe you guys

  • @ibrahimdihum9127
    @ibrahimdihum9127 3 місяці тому +10

    As always excellent analysis thank you MAX and AARON
    THANKS THE GRAY ZONE

  • @Joann8225
    @Joann8225 3 місяці тому +21

    ❤️😎💯👏👏👏 Grayzone Rules ! Great analysis 🎯

  • @norryc2379
    @norryc2379 3 місяці тому +19

    Good work Greyzone

  • @JoeHock-ds7ym
    @JoeHock-ds7ym 3 місяці тому +3

    I vet all information... Grayzone is one network that I do not have to. Integrity is everything. Thank you.

  • @jumboshrimp5193
    @jumboshrimp5193 3 місяці тому +14

    Glad you guys r back.
    Zios throttling u bigtime.

  • @miskakerdez3750
    @miskakerdez3750 2 місяці тому +1

    Max and Aaron, brilliant as always. Love your non partisan approach; deconstructing “the blob”, the way power works and the banality of evil that keeps the war machine humming. Thank you!

  • @rbd11011
    @rbd11011 3 місяці тому +34

    ❤AND RESPECT ❤

  • @jaybee557
    @jaybee557 3 місяці тому +10

    Great discussion with Kit Klarenberg - appreciate him airing Starmer’s filthy back story.

  • @yachuj
    @yachuj 3 місяці тому +2

    Awesome! Thank you. PEACE OUT! 🙏🏽✌🏽

  • @gghstlr
    @gghstlr 3 місяці тому +15

    😱 Thanks for sharing. No one can feign ignorance.

  • @TheBlynch
    @TheBlynch 2 місяці тому +2

    Keepin' the flame of journalism LIT!

  • @joey_gallant
    @joey_gallant 3 місяці тому +7

    Great to see and hear Kit. Brilliant investigative mind.

  • @AggieL48
    @AggieL48 3 місяці тому +19

    Thanks guys. Great analyses. ❤

  • @aquapendulum
    @aquapendulum 3 місяці тому +27

    A correction for Max: Kamala did crack down on truancy but the penalty from her office was for the parents rather than the kids who skipped school. But yes, her truancy crackdown ended up affecting black parents the most.

    • @RobotClean138-lx1bo
      @RobotClean138-lx1bo 2 місяці тому

      @aquapendulum
      I'm still a bit of a libertarian, and question compulsory education. With that said, did penalizing parents for truancy get more kids to stay in school?

    • @aquapendulum
      @aquapendulum 2 місяці тому +1

      @@RobotClean138-lx1bo Nope! Simply because the reasons kids skip school are not under the parents' control most of the time.

  • @MrB1923
    @MrB1923 3 місяці тому +27

    Keir Stammer is a charisma vacuum.

    • @manbearpig7521
      @manbearpig7521 3 місяці тому +4

      Block of wood man

    • @liveontheverandah
      @liveontheverandah 2 місяці тому +2

      Who cares about charisma? I’m more worried about his policies - just another neoliberal status quo

  • @RethinkIslam-qd7we
    @RethinkIslam-qd7we 2 місяці тому +1

    Wonderful work as always. Love and look forward to your episodes each week.

  • @peterandjoycevanbreemen600
    @peterandjoycevanbreemen600 3 місяці тому +4

    Thank you Max and Aaron!

  • @Lo-MingLum
    @Lo-MingLum 3 місяці тому +16

    Great show. Sorry I missed Kit in first half of show. Had been traveling and awake for 36-40 hours. I've been diligently checking hourly for GZ live but just as I went out, that's when the show started. I also meant to only close my eyes for 5 minutes and it turned out to be 45 minutes for the Judge. My schedule will be better next week.💐💐💐

    • @thewhitelodgery
      @thewhitelodgery 3 місяці тому +2

      Worth a rewatch though! Kit rules!

    • @manbearpig7521
      @manbearpig7521 3 місяці тому +2

      Kit was great!

    • @jjutt87
      @jjutt87 3 місяці тому +3

      No stress zone - there's always time for the GZ!!

  • @anastar37
    @anastar37 3 місяці тому +19

    I'm shocked to see Kamala speak so long without cracking up!

    • @jjutt87
      @jjutt87 3 місяці тому +2

      😅😂🤣😂😅

    • @lmac9718
      @lmac9718 3 місяці тому +2

      Que Mala 🤮

  • @FreebornLivingWoman
    @FreebornLivingWoman 3 місяці тому +20

    A most informative and brilliant discussion as always Max. Thank you, with immense respect and gratitude from New Zealand 🙏❤️🙏

  • @electricstreetpoet
    @electricstreetpoet 3 місяці тому +20

    Hi Max, just tuned in

  • @paulmicks7097
    @paulmicks7097 3 місяці тому +26

    It's like US , democracy is a pick between Left or Right fascism, either choice takes you to the same place.

    • @jjutt87
      @jjutt87 3 місяці тому +5

      But there is no left, it's corporate-center, corporate-right, and fascist all over imo

    • @Concerned63Citizen
      @Concerned63Citizen 3 місяці тому

      @@jjutt87Bingo.

    • @ileanahernandez1709
      @ileanahernandez1709 3 місяці тому +2

      Learn to vote third party vote for the Green 💚 Party and Dr Jill Stein for President

    • @luv2fly745
      @luv2fly745 3 місяці тому +1

      I share your opinion and couldn't agree more with your assessment.​@@jjutt87

    • @paulmicks7097
      @paulmicks7097 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes they should learn, but they don't .. " I LIKE JILL " and her running mate Jack Shid

  • @AggieL48
    @AggieL48 3 місяці тому +23

    Max, the term “Press” hardly describes the current corporate media we suffer from.

    • @tjallingdalheuvel126
      @tjallingdalheuvel126 3 місяці тому +4

      Press to play the handed script.

    • @jjutt87
      @jjutt87 3 місяці тому +1

      "Press" of the boot on our neck!

  • @thanareda2351
    @thanareda2351 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for your independent journalism❤.

  • @mldb13
    @mldb13 3 місяці тому +2

    "Keir Starmer's dad was a carpenter, like Jesus before him." 😂😂😂
    What a fantastic, thorough, analysis of UK elections and political moment. Kit Klarenberg's knowledge and clarity at describing the facts are simply outstanding. As usual, the highest quality of information on the Grayzone👏🏽👏👏🏼

  • @kittysawtelle5552
    @kittysawtelle5552 3 місяці тому +5

    Love this team!

  • @stephaniecarrow4898
    @stephaniecarrow4898 3 місяці тому +2

    Thank you, Max, Aaron and Kit for always illuminating analysis.

  • @liz-iy6zm
    @liz-iy6zm 2 місяці тому +2

    love you guys. thanks for all this great info.

  • @tarakadir9259
    @tarakadir9259 3 місяці тому +7

    Thank you 🙏🏻 ❤ 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🍉🍉🍉

  • @aptorres01
    @aptorres01 3 місяці тому +10

    Great work guys thank you

  • @Vororterocker
    @Vororterocker 3 місяці тому +3

    Thank you for the work The Grayzone.

  • @frankgrace1537
    @frankgrace1537 3 місяці тому +15

    “Who knows where the time goes”. A great song by Sandy Denny and Fairport Convention. “The world is run by very different personages from the ones the public sees” (Paraphrased Disraeli quote).

  • @elisabettaaugelli8286
    @elisabettaaugelli8286 3 місяці тому +5

    Max ❤thank you!

  • @susanmercurio1060
    @susanmercurio1060 3 місяці тому +196

    I have no faith in Starmer and the Labour Party

    • @lilith3953
      @lilith3953 3 місяці тому

      I have complete faith that they are going to carry on doing exactly what the Tory's were doing, except that they are going to be extra terrible on the whole protecting-women's-rights-from-transgender-madness issue. Apart from that, two cheeks of the same deepstate a**, an a** that is going to keep on shitting all over the British people.

    • @mark_2
      @mark_2 3 місяці тому

      The right is blatantly representing the plutocracy but most people are unaware of the fact that the anti communist left has been a tool of intel organizations across the entire west since ww2.

    • @tobia5267
      @tobia5267 3 місяці тому +10

      I have the opposite of faith in him. I am worried nothing will change

    • @unbearifiedbear1885
      @unbearifiedbear1885 3 місяці тому +1

      The guy who said he wants to give *non citizens* the vote?
      The guy who said he's a staunch zionist?
      The Mi6 guy?
      Yeah.. me either

    • @unbearifiedbear1885
      @unbearifiedbear1885 3 місяці тому +12

      ​​@@tobia5267 Well, fear not - things are going to get much much worse 😅👍🏻

  • @enzahmltn121
    @enzahmltn121 3 місяці тому +8

    You can’t really see the gun at her back .. 😂 so funny Max but so scary at the same time 😧

  • @maryamsukaynah559
    @maryamsukaynah559 3 місяці тому +2

    Thank you guys for all the real information❤

  • @nadiawheeler4772
    @nadiawheeler4772 3 місяці тому +9

    Thank you

  • @hayatraja7360
    @hayatraja7360 3 місяці тому +4

    Great show , thanks. 🇵🇸

  • @feryag
    @feryag 3 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for an excellent segment.

  • @pearlOwisdom532
    @pearlOwisdom532 3 місяці тому +15

    Dont understand how Galloway loses his seat afer winning less than 2mths b4??

    • @staticcouch135
      @staticcouch135 3 місяці тому +5

      The lobby 🤮

    • @Concerned63Citizen
      @Concerned63Citizen 3 місяці тому +3

      @@staticcouch135Same "Lobby" who has unlimited $$$ and got rid of Jamal Bowman in New York. I despise them.

    • @blue-eyedbluesboy3405
      @blue-eyedbluesboy3405 3 місяці тому

      It was literally impossible to happen without a large degree of election meddling. Rochdale is a Muslim riding. What Muslim in their right mind would vote Labour?!

  • @R12390
    @R12390 3 місяці тому +2

    Thanks 🙏🏻 🇨🇦

  • @DavidGreenwood-nu6dd
    @DavidGreenwood-nu6dd 3 місяці тому +4

    You two,and the two Alex's on Duran are the real journalists,and my heroes!

  • @ourbleakhouse
    @ourbleakhouse 3 місяці тому +11

    The UK as per usual presents a mirror to the US, & vice-versa.

  • @revn9203
    @revn9203 3 місяці тому +15

    If there is no public enthusiasm for Labour, then how did they win? It is so confusing.

    • @michelegosse7116
      @michelegosse7116 3 місяці тому

      34% of 60% is 20% of the electorate!
      First get the seat. Best with 2 parties, the libs kind of keep their own places.
      Starmer purged the candidates at the last minute, no way to campaign against the propelled, specially when the voters do not know, just vote Labour. People voted against tories, left a vacant place for The Other.

    • @rezrunnercl
      @rezrunnercl 3 місяці тому

      It's their system. They won a landslide with like 30+ %?

    • @mark_2
      @mark_2 3 місяці тому

      Only if you believe they're not manipulating public opinion and elections domestically just as they do in coups, color revolutions and subversion abroad.

    • @tjallingdalheuvel126
      @tjallingdalheuvel126 3 місяці тому +5

      Because the public swallows it.

    • @manbearpig7521
      @manbearpig7521 3 місяці тому

      Because Tories switched to reform, Muslims to workers party and independence and SNP vote collapsed. Basically Scotland is propping them up.and we will be offered crumbs

  • @thinkbeforeyoutype7106
    @thinkbeforeyoutype7106 2 місяці тому +2

    Great reporting as always guys

  • @Disinformation_Hoax
    @Disinformation_Hoax 3 місяці тому +7

    Let Biden be Biden 🙏😇 More public appearances, debates and interviews. Please, please.

    • @mpemberton7760
      @mpemberton7760 3 місяці тому

      @Disinformation_Hoax This is probably an apocryphal anecdote, but Obama supposedly told a Democratic colleague, "Don't underestimate Joe Biden's ability to f**k things up."
      Even if he didn't actually say that, it's funny...because it's true.

  • @getgal1
    @getgal1 3 місяці тому +3

    Excellent analysis.

  • @Joann8225
    @Joann8225 3 місяці тому +13

    GG's name for Kamala - Laughing Gas Harris 😂🤣😂🤣

  • @hairlessape5107
    @hairlessape5107 3 місяці тому +6

    Thanks from Aaron's home province

  • @billreetz
    @billreetz 3 місяці тому +4

    ❤ from occupied usa. Thank you for helping us to better grasp the utter, depravity and uselessness of the so called democratic process in the UK. I feel sorry for the people of Britain as well as the rest of humanity. 🍉 Free Palestine and long live Yemen! 22:14

  • @duncanmckeown1292
    @duncanmckeown1292 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks!...must see analysis as usual!

  • @enzahmltn121
    @enzahmltn121 3 місяці тому +5

    Thanks

  • @cristinaordeig7
    @cristinaordeig7 3 місяці тому +1

    For us this have been and incredible profound information worth a fortune….HUGE THANKS TO ALL OF YOU…..❣️❣️❣️

  • @yvonnecampbell8832
    @yvonnecampbell8832 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @joelsmith3873
    @joelsmith3873 2 місяці тому +1

    Good work Max. We’ve had a very similar political trajectory.

  • @Jomarina11
    @Jomarina11 3 місяці тому +2

    Love Kit’s analysis.

  • @bradcaulkins7690
    @bradcaulkins7690 2 місяці тому

    Thank you, gents! The news always disappoints, but these streams never do!

  • @HardRockMiner
    @HardRockMiner 3 місяці тому +14

    Time? Biden still can't figure out where the sun goes.

  • @adrianariaratnam5817
    @adrianariaratnam5817 3 місяці тому +24

    An excerpt :
    Our society does not have an antisemitism crisis. It doesn’t have a crisis of far left radicalism, Islamist extremism, support for terrorism, or fomenting of dissent by foreign powers.
    Our society has a moral crisis. A cruelty crisis. An imperialism crisis. A militarism crisis. A propaganda crisis. An insincerity crisis. A stupidity crisis. An obedience crisis
    Empire managers and imperial spinmeisters try to pretend there’s some horrifying existential emergency involving hatred of Jews or love of Hamas or some other ridiculous nonsense in our society, because the empire too is in a state of crisis. People are waking up from its lullaby of propaganda and are rejecting its narrative manipulation like never before, which is why instead of relenting and accepting the empire’s destruction of Gaza, opposition to it is only growing stronger.
    So the authorized custodians of imperial narratives flail around desperately trying to regain some control by spinning all the civil disobedience we are seeing in a way that makes it seem like some sort of problem which needs to be fixed. But as Howard Zinn said, “Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience.”
    ______
    The problem isn’t that people are becoming too disobedient, the problem is that people remain too obedient. The problem isn’t that people are becoming too radicalized against their government, the problem is that people aren’t radicalized enough. The problem is that the freaks who rule over us are not sufficiently afraid of us. The problem is that we have not yet come to the collective realization that there are a whole lot more of us than there are of them, and that we don’t actually need to put up with them doing crazy and evil things right in front of our faces.
    Instead people sit around drooling with their eyes fixed on screens full of endless diversion while children are ripped to shreds by western-supplied military explosives for no other reason than because they happen to belong to the wrong ethnic group.
    That is the real crisis of our society. Not an imaginary antisemitism epidemic. Not college kids disobeying authority figures. Not leftists. Not anarchists. Not Islam. Not Hamas.
    The real crisis in our society is that too many people are still blindly obedient to a murderous and tyrannical empire which should be hacked to pieces and scattered to the winds.
    www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/the-problem-isnt-civil-disobedience?

    • @llkoolbean4935
      @llkoolbean4935 3 місяці тому +8

      Beautifully stated. I agree completely.

    • @Nine-Signs
      @Nine-Signs 3 місяці тому +7

      A cruelty crisis. An imperialism crisis. A militarism crisis. A propaganda crisis. An insincerity crisis. A stupidity crisis. An obedience crisis ...
      .... The resultant symptoms that arise from the rewards and incentives of capitalism... over time.

    • @billreetz
      @billreetz 3 місяці тому +4

      ❤ from occupied usa. Thank you so much! 37:01

    • @adrianariaratnam5817
      @adrianariaratnam5817 3 місяці тому +3

      @billreetz
      You're most welcome. Please pass it along...........we're surrounded by multitudes of brainless sheep! Thank you.

  • @CatPDX
    @CatPDX 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you all so much!

  • @Joann8225
    @Joann8225 3 місяці тому +13

    Trumps bizarre weak Palestinian insult to Biden -- CNN et al. *crickets* thanks for discussion about this, Max. And so true, it's The Obama Machine !! 🤢🤮

    • @ileanahernandez1709
      @ileanahernandez1709 3 місяці тому

      People forget Obama was behind the takedown of Bernie Sanders and installing if his ex vice president. Bernie Sanders was definitely winning and Biden wasn't even campaigning at all except every once in a while he would show up from his basement.

  • @rodiculous9464
    @rodiculous9464 3 місяці тому +9

    Thank you greyzone max and aaron

  • @DavidGreenwood-nu6dd
    @DavidGreenwood-nu6dd 3 місяці тому +2

    Could listen you guys all night!Dave,from West Yorkshire,UK.

  • @tyebo2010
    @tyebo2010 3 місяці тому +6

    I would have liked Kit to have mentioned the rise of the Reform party in the UK, which effectively split the Conservative vote contributing to their steep demise.

    • @liveontheverandah
      @liveontheverandah 2 місяці тому

      A lot of Labour voters probably went Reform too- the Islamophobia in the UK is being whipped up and has been for a long time.

  • @AggieL48
    @AggieL48 3 місяці тому +11

    Kit rules!❤

  • @Ralphjons
    @Ralphjons 3 місяці тому

    Invaluable insights and analysis. Always worth listening to these guys at Grayzone.