REACTION | DOCTOR WHO | 3x12 | The Sound of Drums
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
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Vote Saxon.
I wish I was you. The profile picture and everything. Perfect!
I hope you go around the internet comments just posting “Vote Saxton.” with no context😂
always. 🖤🖤
After what that youtube channel did.... absolutely no
Remember that vote Saxon doctor who fan who killed that girl in northern Ireland!!😂
Popular fan theory: There was only a vacancy for Prime Minister because the Doctor deposed Harriet Jones. The Doctor created the space that The Master filled.
That makes sense since they mentioned her in the episode.
@@BritanyBinges plus in series 1 they state she was meant to lead for 3 consecutive terms. that's 15 years. Instead, the Doctor reduced her tenure to a matter of weeks. There would have been absolutely no room for the Master to do this if the Doctor had left Harriet to her business.
It's not a fan theory it's canon. They were going to reference her but Russell decided against it because he didn't want to 'kick him while he's down.'
This was explicitly said at one point. So yes. The Doctor caused this to happen.
It’s good that you note the similarities with the Doctor and the Master. This was RTD’s intention with John Simm’s version is that he would be almost like the Doctor’s opposite, which he is, he’s a maniac! Masterful performance by John Simm👏🏻
It's great because I think each Master matches 'their' Doctor, sometimes even going as far as similar accents
@@Metzwerg74 one of the best shows ever
The Doctor has issues, the Master has a magazine stand, and multiple subscriptions.
This genuinely made me chuckle. lol
All I can say is that everything will make sense at the end. And I always laugh at Jacks "You too, huh?"
10:50 - Or, as Douglas Adams put it in one of the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy books.... "An SEP Field.... where SEP means 'Somebody Else's Problem'. You brain sees it, but ignores it as 'Somebody Else's Problem'."
Douglas Adams used to write for Doctor Who in the '70s. They have referenced it a few times with Tennant, at least. The episode 42, and in Christmas Invasion, where he mentioned saving the world in his pajamas, and how that was very "Arthur Dent" of him. :)
I genuinely think the only reason Martha’s brother wasn’t caught was because Reggie Yates wasn’t able to commit to filming more than that one scene. He’s a pretty successful tv presenter over here in the UK.
So "Mr.Saxon" and his goverment have been referenced as far back as series 2. Back in Series 2 episode 10 Love & Monsters (You know with the uh.. Absorbaloff) Victor Kennedy was seen reading a newspaper with the headline about "Saxon leading the polls". You can also spot "vote saxon" posters in the background of series 3 episode 1 smith and jones and there were even a couple vote saxon posters in a few Torchwood episodes.
Christmas Invasion - that's where it all starts.
Every season finale tries to top itself. Daleks. Daleks plus Cybermen. Now, the Master dancing to electro-punk with 6 billion soldiers.
Exactly. Though, I think that kinda stopped around Series 6 or 7 (possibly 8)
@thepandorica1660 S7 finale was my favourite regeneration though. I personally like S6's finale, but I think that after Daleks, the Master and Big Bang 2 the bar was set super high
At school on the Monday this came out I remember I started tapping on the floor in assembly, doing the four taps. A few of my friends got what I was doing and joined in and then I guess everyone in the school who was a Doctor Who fan picked up on it and joined in. It started getting quite loud and I thought my joke might have got a little out of hand but luckily none of the teachers knew who started it and to be honest, I am pretty sure no one besides my friends knew. The teachers didn't know what was going on but they were quite annoyed by it.
8 Year olds are dumb but it was funny.
Douglas Adams created the idea of something like the perception filter (before either Doctor Who writers or JK Rowling) for the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series, he called it an SEP field (Someone Else's Problem, as it's someone else's problem everyone ignores it), I don't know if he was the first to float the idea but he deserves the mention.
6:40 "I DO WHATT I LIKE" Martha Jones, I love you ♥
FYI: The Band appears to be an English pop rock band named McFly, who formed in 2003 and are apparently still active.
The fact they're still going is pretty impressive.
I started to dislike them when I found out they'd voted Saxon. I had no problem with Sharon Osbourne voting Saxon as I've always disliked her. She would've voted for him without the drumming.
The Doctor really likes the Earth so a lot of the story's are based on Earth despite there being trillions of other planets around.
And it is absolutely NOTHING to do with budget constraints whatsoever....
Also at this point mostly filmed in Cardiff Wales.
Youll notice in old Who how many episodes filmed in a disused quarry. Keep a tally when you notice it 😆
"Oh look, rocks!"
Well, the costs of location shooting would be literally astronomical.
@@DavidB-2268 not so much anymore. The Mandolorian uses LED dome to film in so they can create vista's and planets easily.
@j9lorna it was a joke about filming on Earth vs actual other planets.
@@DavidB-2268 yes I got it
The little drum taps everyone does. Is the beat to the doctor who theme
Sadly, the boy who plays the young Master ended his life when he was aged 18.
OMG IM SO EXCITED!!!! i LOVE these three episodes so much
I Really love this episode and the whole political thriller vibe, also that cliffhanger with the score Martha’s Quest playing is one of my favourites. Looking forward to next weeks! 👀
The Master and Doctor are often constipated. Different side of the same coin. The Simm Master most defiantly took parts of the 10th Doctor's personally when he regenerated. But that being said even the time lords consider the Master evil. Calling him the most corrupt being in the universe.
The band is Mcfly, they had UK number ones with '5 colours in her hair' & 'All about You'.
Mcfly 'duelled' with a band called Busted, then hired the remaining guitarist pair after Busted's lead singer/ guitarist left.
Conesquently, the McBusted Tour had a 5 electric guitarist group - which is rare.
John Simm nails what RTD was going for. Love when him and Tennant on screen together playing off each other.
Also there’s that music again.
The weird thing to this is the UK is a parliamentary system meaning you'd vote party not a person to pick a Prime Minister.
It's not like a U.S. election where we vote for a President. It's more like congress party with the most seats pick the Speaker. The Head of the party with the most Parliamentary seats becomes Prime Minister. The only people who vote for the PM are from their local district like a member of Congress.
I'd understand a U.S. show making this kind of mistake, but for a UK show to seems strange.
Oh, that is interesting. That seems like a pretty big thing for them to change.
@@BritanyBingesI think RTD is a little fuzzy about the details of politics. Like having President Winters refer to himself as 'President-elect'. I think RTD heard it used somewhere, didn't know exactly what it meant, but thought it sounded good!
@@Will-nn6ux Id always assumed him calling himself President Elect would mean that this episode would take place sometime after first 8th November latest and January 20th.
@@ThomasCostiganbut he would be prohibited by law to represent the US.
10:00 - What do you get if you rearrange the letters in 'Torchwood'?
docTor who
Earth BECAUSE he has it out for the Doctor.
On The Master's background yes that's definately all you need to know. 😊
Not everything needs an explanation the mystery and the unexplained makes it more exciting.
And then true crazy: Donald J. Trump.
Super late but I’ll n the “why earth” it is because it was his only option
Ah, so many questions! A natural state when watching Doctor Who. It does keep you on your toes.
Well you are certainly ahead on Patreon compared to where you thought you would be (S6). I may have to sign up. But I'm not sure if I have a good copy to sync.
Obviously, you know more about the Master now, but they did a fair job reintroducing him while keeping him mysterious to those who didn't watch old Who at this stage.
For me, this was RTD's big mis-step. Not so much this episode, but certainly the next. Main issue for me is - it's already very much feeling like it's going to need a big red reset button, and I hate when a show uses a great big reset button. When you feel the need to create a problem SO big, SO intense, SO world-destorying, that the remedy for the situation has to involve undoing it all so it's like it never happened - then that's not drama, that's not exciting...
It still all happened, though, as everyone in the room (The Doctor, Jack, Martha, her family, Lucy and the Master) retains their memories of what happened.
Martha even references these events when warning Donna about being too close to the Doctor in Series 4.
@@thepandorica1660 It also is referenced in a later special. But beyond that, Earth manages to go on and somehow be completely unchanged after every other world changing event in the show, why would having it be more direct be an issue? Series 2 ends with a Dalek _and Cyberman_ invasion being control-z'd at the literal flip of a switch and series 3x1 it's just another tuesday.
Yeah this is my least favourite RTD finale by some distance. Although he's not great at finales in general.
@@robvanriot I'll always complain about it :) But same as 11's first finale - again needing a big reset button... Give me Logopolis, with ... well - for spoilers sake - BIG consequences, and yet NO reset.
7:35 i watched them film that.
The tunnel/subway behind was used for capaldis season with the killer subway painting.
None exist now it was redesigned and rebuilt
How fun that you got to see them film a few scenes from this episode and Utopia!
Don t worries i m confuse too the first times i see this episode but you have answers in third part
With great power comes dark side . Which makes
change from usual alien foe , Martha mother not bad or good just
Believe hype about Saxon
EPIC and the callbacks both nu who and classic....and still another part to go....
That Gallifrey music is incredible
The Doctor is very similar to the Master, although the Time Lord Victorious is arguably worse, certainly more arrogant.
You're only up to season 7 with Classic Who, so I won't spoil any stories, I'll just say that the Master has tried to destroy humanity before, and his relationship with the Doctor goes back even further.
Possible spoiler for Classic....
The Master was originally the best friend of The Doctor, though that is seldom shown. But he wemt a different route. The third Doctor actor, Jon Pertwee, was actually great friends with the original actor who played The Master. When the latter died, Jon Pertwee decided to retire from being The Doctor. Other actors played The Master afterwards.The relationship between the actors interestingly reflected the original relationship between the Time :Lords though their roles were antagonistic.
no, the brother is just nobody. LOL
I love how it was the American guy to "welcome " them to earth 😂
same🤣I like to consider it foreshadowing😂😂😂
I Actually cant wait for season 4 🥺🥺🥺
I'm really excited to get into it from an editing/rewatch standpoint. I definitely prefer it to series three.
@@BritanyBinges exactly my point!
David Tennant is my favorite Doctor, and RTD has some great episodes. However, RTD wasn't the best at finales. He clearly believed bigger was better at the time, but I found his 2-part finales boring.
Wait until you get to Steven Moffat. There's a show-runner who knows how to end a DW season!
Wait until you get to
I actually just started series 10 so, I'm well into the Moffat era. I completely agree. While I think Moffat can make things a little too complex at times, I definitely prefer his finales. I enjoyed this one as I was watching it, but it's definitely one of my least favorite finale stories so far in the revival.
Wow! You're starting 10 already? If you were anything like me, you're getting over some highly emotional moments! :)
@@CarolinaCharles777 Oh, for sure. There were LOTS of tears shed during the run of episodes from Face the Raven to The Husbands of River Song.
Yeah I was a mess after Face the Raven. LOL
I can't wait to get into it when you start reacting to the Clara seasons.
I love what this leads to the next couple episodes are favorites of mine
The Master works at his best when he is presented as the mirror image of the Doctor. They are very similar in some ways but went in opposite directions. This is the way it is being portrayed here, as it was when the Master was first introduced opposite the (I won't say which) Doctor.
During the flashback scene the child version of the master is wearing a black and white robe identical to the ones worn by the time lords in 'the war games' also in that story the war chief was not supposed to be the master, even tho he is very master like. So i just pretend he is an incarnation of the master lol
It's funny you say that, because I thought the same thing. When I was watching that story, I wondered if that character inspired the creation of the Master later on because they seemed so similar. I even talked about it during the reactions. :)
@@BritanyBinges just coincidence but he even has the same evil villain beard haha. I’m so happy now you have seen season 8 of classic who you have been introduced to the original master….5 times😂😂
@@bananasaregood8655 I actually haven't seen season 8 of Classic Who. I'm only in season 7. 😕Just as a reminder, I always have the most recent episode number/title for everything related to Doctor Who listed in the description so that we can avoid spoilers in the comments.
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@@BritanyBinges for some reason i thought you had said you had finished season 8 of classic who, ah well nothing major spoilers, but sorry all the same. I would NEVER risk spoiling when doctors or companions leave the show
The never ending DRUMS…..
I see you didn’t recognize Ozzy and Sharon Osborn.😊
Sarcasm?
I definitely did. Lol I didn't recognize the group of guys they showed after Sharon.
@@BritanyBinges Yeah Voodoo Child by Rogue Traders, that's a song unexpected to play in Doctor Who. The singer was Natalie Bassingwaighte who was the new member in the band and 2 years before she was in Australian soap opera, Neighbours (even though this EP aired in 2007).
Is mcfly not big in the US? They are huge over here
I haven't heard that band in a long time
Well..They were big here about 20 years ago but I don't think they made a jot across the Atlantic. Only thing I remember was The Jonas Bros nicking 2 of other similar band Busted's songs around that time "Year 3000" & What I Go To School For" leading many American's flabbergasted when they find out they were covers now! 😂😂
I think you read too much into 'the darkness', although that is how the effects of the reality bomb were described.
The Master and the Doctor were childhood best friends.
This has to be one of the best episodes of Doctor Who!
These episodes are so good!