Stevie Ray Vaughan’s EXTREME Guitar Speakers!
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- Опубліковано 31 січ 2021
- In this video I'm playing the insanely punchy JBL E110 in a '73 Vibrolux Reverb (2x10). SRV used these speakers in his Super Reverbs (4x10) (he also used the EVM10L). These are extreme speakers that weigh 14 lbs each! I'm using a '73 Fender Stratocaster and a '08 Gibson Les Paul R9. At the end of the video I'm also comparing the JBLs to the original Oxford 10L5s of Vibrolux!
Back in the day, seeing, hearing SRV & DT in small beer joints here in TX with maybe 25 or so people, unforgettable. One memory: he and Tommy put their amps on barstools (yikes). When the band took a break he would sit on the edge of the stage and play solo blues on a 335 (or such), man. They came out, he grinned under his hat with his stubby teeth full knowing he was about to kill us. My buddy bitched at first because of the $2 cover...he promptly apologized. Stevie played legit Hendrix, I asked him if he ever saw Jimi, he said no but his brother had opened for the Experience. Oh, and Stevie told me he had just played a private party for the Stones 2 weeks earlier ... omg, you met the Stones? Long story short, next time I saw him was in an arena (and last). Johan, you sound great, good speakers though didn't sound tonally much like what I remember. Still good though, keep up the great vids.
Thanks man, I would have loved to be at that bar gig!
I use the JBL120e in my deluxe reverb, I also have a THEILE cabinet housing the EVM speaker mentioned.
In use these speakers together, there is no better sound. There’s a reason these speakers when used together create some true magic.
It’s an indescribable sound.
They are both extremely heavy… but the trade off is worth every drop of sweat.
Oxfords! I love their subtlety and nuances! Your playing is awesome in both obviously 😎
Great demo Johan. I used JBLs in a Twin Reverb in the 70's doing gigs- they really cut through, but I switched back to the stock Fender speakers which sounded better (more musical?)at higher volumes..and were lighter! The JBLs were great speakers, but I never dug them as a guitar speaker.
I like the Oxford in this demo! Keep up the good work. 😉
I saw SRV at the Rose Arts outdoor festival in CT in '87 or '88. Couldn't believe he came to such a small, unknown venue. I stood about 10 feet away from him for the entire show. His technique was mesmerizing. Amazing guitar player. Funniest thing was they pulled the plug on the music mid-song right at 11:00pm because of a town ordinance. I saw him play two more times before he died. He was a great talent with an unbelievable sound.
I vote for the oxfords. The JbL have some kinda fizzy sound I’m not digging.
Excellent video as usual.
Thanks
Thanks!
Yeah, the JBLs were a little strident in the top frequencies. Kind of funny that Oxfords are not as appreciated as the JBLs, CTSs, and Jensens.
Yes, that fizziness is constant. It would get annoying very quickly.
They sound different, but not sure I have a favourite.
Solution: fit the Vibrolux with one of each.
Johan it is odd I have been a subscriber for idk at least 2yrs and I get videos like this that pop up that I have missed.....UA-cam is quite an odd platform at times...great video as always!
Great video Johan, your uploads always make my morning. Still super curious how a Marshall Studio vintage would hold up to your "stress test"
Glad to hear it Sgt!
You have to see the EV10L’s he stuffed in his Bassman Reisues. He had two of them in his last rig and both amps had the baffle replaced with 1/2”(12.7mm) Baltic Birch plywood. The stock baffle was 1/4”(6.35mm), the blue frame Eminence 10’s are very lightweight. It’s really a sight to behold, along with #1. Those frets are so big, they’re the most prominent thing on the guitar when you see it in person.
These JBL’s were used in the early/mid 80’s in his Supers iirc. Along with massive Twin power and output transformers. Thanks for sharing these fabulous speakers.
Those JBL’s and Oxfords both, were outstanding!
Thanks for the Great video! did you adjust the speaker baffle to get the JBL in? or it fits originally
Always learning tone on your channel Johan, I thought my K-120 was bright!
Hi, Johan!
Nice, well ballanced tones - I felt very comfortable with that sound!👍
See you,
Zigfrid
Thanks Zigfrid, glad you like it! Cheers
Those JBL sound gorgeous!
Cool sounds good I have a couple Vox/Oxford alnico gold 12s from a 73 Viscount
I believe he used the JBLs pre-1984, then moved to EVs in all his amps in 1984 when Stevie got his SSS and Cesar Diaz got tired of them blowing (somehow!). I read an interview with Cesar Diaz that said he replaced the stock output transformer in the supers with one from a twin reverb, and replaced the stock OPT with ones from a Bassman. That would be an interesting but difficult & invasive comparison, but I know you've done crazy comparisons like that before :D. Anyways, really great playing, you really nailed that lynrd skynrd sweet home alabama tone! To me, the oxfords had a clearer midrange that would fit better in a mix, but they less of a controlled, powerful sound compared to the JBLs.
Thanks, very interesting feedback! That is definitely an experiment for me!!
Hi John. I am stating the obvious, but as you know each speaker has its own plusses and minuses. how about you try one of each?....
I think the Oxfords sounds sweeter. It would be interesting to combine them like you did on the EVH speaker cab.
Seems like a great speaker choice for playing in a crowded band mix with say another guitarist and a keyboard or something. Nice aggressive sound!
Thanks! Yeah it’s sits beautifully with a second guitar playing Marshall/Celestion
Wow- these are pretty nice sounding. I like these super heavy drivers with fender or Ampeg style amps. Snagged a pair of EVM12Ls from a guy who has a bunch of JBLs of this series for sale too, pretty tempted to snag a pair.
At 6:53, 7:25 and 7:55 sounded like AC/DC on the JBL E110 and on the Oxford 10L5 sounds like a mixture of Kiss and the early late 70's Van Halen brown sounds.
I like the oxfords a lot more. They sound amazing
Those make that amp sound so good. I want some in my vibrolux reverb
I have a Twin Reverb that I bought in 1973 that has JBL D 120s in it, great speakers.....amp came with them like you mentioned very heavy
Incredible!!
Have same speakers. Oxfords. Def need a recone. About to get same JBLs, have same exact Vibrolux, just got it converted and rewired to BF specs 🤘🤠
Uncle frikin Mercy! This is exactly why the vibrolux is one of the most desired amps of all time. Rock Steady
So many people complain about stock vintage Fender speakers, but I find they really suit the character of these amps.
I found a pair of JBL 2012hpl speakers at a good price. No videos or much info, but they are really beefy and these are the closest I've found to try to get an idea of how they may sound. Any knowledge of that model?
Yep that is a sound I heard around Austin a lot back then. Not forgiving. Lots of great players at the time though. Heard a lot of JBLs in the Jazz Chorus too.
Johan, har du någon video med jbl 15” k serie.
I thought SRV primarily used the EVM-10M in his Super Reverb. Like the EVM-12L vs a JBL E-120, the EVM-10 sound a bit less strident than the JBL E-110. If you swap out the metal dust cap with a cloth dust cap, a JBL speaker will sound a bit less harsh. Like many guitar players, I prefer the K series to the E though the E series can really work with a high gain amp quite well.
I preferred the Oxford speakers with that amp. Have you used a pair of Celestion G10-50 in a Vibrolux? Those can sound great in either a Super or Vibrolux Reverb.
Thank you for doing this video, I have a 71 Vibrolux with the exact JBL’s. Really heavy but it’s worth it. For country chick’n pick’n they are perfect. Cheers
nice video again. I would stay with the oxfords or try jensen c10n (old ones are best, jupiter 10LC are very good too) in that amp. I had some 10" and 12" E-series jbls a few years ago, they were from old pa-speakers, and they all sounded terrible and were much too heavy, so I trashed them, didn't even think about selling them. lol
The Oxfords are a little brittle on the attack and boomy in the bass. We used to call that "farty". The E series JBL definitely is SRV sound. Like them better than the D110 searies which seemed sharp and piercing. Not a problem with the JBL D130 which is another speaker SRV used. I used them in 1970, awsome speaker. Good demo Johan, thanks.
Thanks man! Yeah I headed D130 was Leo’s favorite too
I think I like the lower fi sound of the oxfords
E series JBLS are unique as a guitar speaker. They're very revealing as this demo shows, but they're also EXTREMELY powerful sounding across the entire spectrum-the 12" are rated at 300 watts! As a result of that they essentially never compress and always give you 100% of whatever you throw at them. They're particularly sought-after by folks looking for the Jerry tone but there are plenty of uses for them in my opinion. A pair of these in a high-headroom amp is has truly ridiculous low-end response. It sounds incredible with a Muff or Rat style pedal in front-as long as you turn the highs WAY down!
I'm surprised the Qes is still up at 0.4 with that big a magnet.
Some of the best speakers ever designed
Yeah beautiful engineering
Sometimes the tone you want isn't what you need once that drummer hits the snare.Those sound amazing.cheers to you.🍸🍸 and thanks.
Thanks Reverend, Cheers!
7:35 Wow !! 👍🏻
I installed a JBL E-110 on a princeton 68 reissue and it was toooo boomy basically the speaker was bringing up all the character of the amp magnified 10times. Later i sold the amp and now i have it on a fender pro jr and OMG its the best combination! It makes the pro jr sound magnificent.
I'm a fan of JBLs and EVM12Ls my brother had JBL 15s in his Dual Showman Reverb Cab, incredible bass sound, Ironic a Fender Guitar amp used for bass. I shouldn't say had , still has 40 years and still going strong. As to the shootout, as much of a JBL fanboy as I am, the Oxfords to me were much more vibey more up to the guitar than the JBLs, they seemed a bit to "civilized" I bet they wpuld be perfect in a vintage bassman or reissue in concert with the Alnicos 2 and 2, I have a feeling it would be a marriage made in heaven, and therefore I shall try it
I prefer a nice K-series but the E’s are great if you can push them a bit.
Both sound great!! I hear the jbl with more bass and a thicker overall sound and the oxford clearer with better note definition and more mid range. I actually like the oxford more.
Oooh, I'm VERY curious ^^
I hope you get some funding from the Swedish government authority that promotes tourism. Your inclusion of beautiful Swedish scenery makes me want to visit again!
I think both pairs of speakers sound great. I'm wondering if the JBLs would sound better in a band setting, or at least cut through better. Seeing a Vibrolux, I think back to my high school days in the mid '70s when a friend of mine was using his at a high school dance, the volume turned all the way up (fed by a Hagstrom Swede) and him kicking the poor amp because it wasn't loud enough. I (sort of) miss those days!
I personally like the "D" Series JBLs for Fender amps. Had one in an original Mesa Mark I (mid 70s) and blew it up. Went with EV 12L and that was my favorite until the 80s.
Yes indeed. EV12L is a fantastic speaker for this type of application 👍👍👍👍
You found something you like better after the80’s, then the the EV12l?
Those JBLs in that Fender would make a great Southern Rock rig (Skynard/Outlaws etc)
I liked the Oxfords best. That is what is in my Vibrolux Black face.
Hade varit intressant att testa dessa med min Dual Showman Revernb 135w ultra linear topp!
Då pratar vi headroom!
@@JohanSegeborn Japp!
WOW, the JBL's sound really good to me. The Oxfords sound like just ordinary. I would like to hear comparison of JBL's and EV SRO's. That would be interesting.
Thanks Ken! I have compared D120F to EVM12L here on the channel but not yet the SRO
The JBLs are nice for cleans but I preferred the Oxfords for the driven tones.
Crazy speakers... Thicker than a snickers 😂🤘
Great comparison again! Cheers dear friend!
Glad you like it my friend!
Great video as usual. Those speakers doesn't sound very pleasant on their own, maybe some of the harsh sounds dissapears in a band. The Oxford speaker was nice. Cheers!
That JBL E110 is absolute amazing compared to that Oxford lol. They have exactly what I would like to put in my old fender.
I found a chart from JBL that says they are 98 Spl, so maybe you are getting an additional 3 dBl (if you were even concerned about that). I preferred the lows out of the Oxfords, and no doubt would enjoy the weight reduction. But the clearer highs from the JBL speakers might cut better.
I thought they were 103dB like the D130?
@@JohanSegeborn The chart I'm looking at shows the E110 at 98, the E120 at 103, and the E130 at 105 spl. I found it by googling JBL E110 SPL and the first link was to JBLPro.com Maybe it's inaccurate? But it looks legit.
Always lots of people saying they don't want all that treble and bass, and how "guitar is all about the midrange". I sometimes wonder how many guitarists don't know how their amp's EQ stack works or that you can change its settings with those little knobs. To me, it's always better to start out with a full frequency spectrum to work with, and to use that passive EQ to cut what needs to be cut, rather than have a muddy or honky base tone that you can't brighten up or get more bass out of, because passive amp EQ can only cut frequencies.
JBL was always pretty extreme! This is no less so! \m/
I had a JBL e110-8 cab with a Marshall 2204. The JBL's are faster but you have to be careful. Your guitar and amp settings have to be adjusted to the speaker. The JBL's are a superb clean speaker, highly articulate and very good into light overdrive and crunch. It's almost like you don't NEED as much overdrive. Forget the JBL with any high sat pedal, too much "buzz" on the top end.
The Oxfords have a deeper spectrum (in this scenario) and some nice colorings.
Maybe the JBL's need a bass booster to get in the game.
They should be able to take it ; )
The JBLs have a very straight neutral frequency response. And I think they’re 300W each 🤣
Woahhhhj he used these in his 2ohm super and not in his vibroverb?
I'd love to know what amp you would recommend for bedroom recording? Please dont say a 50 watt 😅 I know you have video that prove it is possible to get great bedroom level tones from high wattage but I think that something in the 20 watt range is ideal..
I have the deluxe reverb. Someone suggest the volume pedal to have a low good volume without turn down knob on the guitar
Johan exemplifies everything I love about Swedes.
I think I prefer the Oxford on both the Strat and Les Paul. The JBLs were a little too sharp and trebl-y.
Nice playing though - in a lot of ways, the sharp sound reminded me of Aerosmith on their first record. Not sure if this speaker was around then. That aside, it wouldn't surprise me if Joe or Brad used a Vibrolux somewhere along the way.
In the princeton world I've always heard oxfords referred to as oxfarts but I think they sound pretty good here
Oxfords used smaller magnet version in the Princetons vs the vibrolux, i've had both
@@jothanankrogh good to know. Somtimes it's difficult to find information about semi obscure (not celestion or Jensen) vintage speakers. I guess its simular to how the old G12H are better in open backs because of the larger magnet.
Very interesting, but a no from me for the JBLs with this tone, too harsh top end. Maybe they'd work for clean, like the full range speakers on a Roland JC-120 Jazz Chorus.
I like the Oxfords a lot better. I don't know if it's a tone stack mis-match with the JBL's but the JBL is accenting a portion of the mids (and high treble) that kinda rubs me the wrong way. Normally I like JBL's but not here.
I have 4 of these in hard trucker style cabinets for when I need to sound like Jerry Garcia (which isn't very often). They sound better the more power you throw at them, they really wake up with a twin reverb. I liked the Oxfords better here.
I’m gonna try it with the showman too
@@JohanSegeborn I think a lot of people leave the bright switch on, play on their bridge pickup, and then try and compensate with the tone controls to tame them and ruin the sound. It seems counter-intuitive because people complain about "ice-pick" from the aluminum dust caps, but try the treble up around 9 and the bass down around 2-2.5, then dial in the mids to taste. Leave the bright switch off and play on the middle pickup of your Strat. That's the big bold Jerry Garcia sound like on '72 Europe, and I think the pinnacle of his tone. A touch of reverb is magic on JBLs too.
I thought you said “40lbs each.” The written description cleared it up... haha. So there’s no way to blow these up??
I like the tone of the original speakers a little better though.
Why did they make those E110 weigh 15lbs each for what reasons? 15lbs of ceramic magnetics do what?
Damn, they are HUGE. They look like ED-209 from Robocop
I like the jbls better with the strat but the oxfords sound really great with the les paul
I think the same.
nice demo, what can you really say? the JBLs are great, the originals Oxfords sound great too, they would probably work really well when combined. Thanks, Johan, great job, stay safe!
Thanks Mark, you too!
There's something similar in the treble end to the current Fane F70: makes me think of swaping between that and a Celestion A-Type I also use hearing these two compared.
It's weird, Johan. transducers made to be as linear and flat as possible impress people when they're on stage together with high/medium drivers, tho when their function is for relatively narrow band like a guitar hardly they're appreciated. Must be the fact that poor Fender amp tried everything but couldn't even saturate those bad boys , as dynamic as they are. Kudos on the experiment and on those two rare pearls. (Btw ... I'd be curious to hear them ina 4x12 twinned with G30 Neo's . I know it's crazy... but aren't we? >; )
We are indeed! :-)
What did you think? ...like were the JBL's obviously punchier or did the Oxfords (freshly reconed) keep up better than you would've thought (?) Luv'd yer plunkin' BTW
Thanks Jonny, the Oxfords have an ok dynamics but the JBLs ate super punchy even when I play with a very light touch
Dude! - one of each
Best vintage speakers I played were mojotone Jensen clones of the 10” speakers
These speakers you are using have excellent mid and top range clarity, but lack the bouncy bass response you get from vintage jenses
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i think johan has already done those red mackenzies in club and country hasnt he ? will be good to look at it again as well.
No I haven’t tried Mackenzies yet actually
My ear prefers the sweeter more crunchy Rhythm of the oxfords but if if I had a Raw gig with one of my loud Bar bands , with no mics for amps , the jbl's would cut through with more Headroom and would sound awesome even if they don't break up as much. The JBL s probably handle lots of good feedback without blowing as easy
40 lbs each !!? I would not have wanted to be SRV's roadie !!!
I prefer the EVM12L and EVM12S speakers to these JBLs.
Nice! Have you ever played in a band? What is the name of it?
Thanks Andreas! Yeah many but no famous ones and very long ago. Simon is in the Swedish band Easy Action though. Cheers
@@JohanSegeborn come on let us know!
Oxfords for the short clip that you actually a/b them beside the JBL. Video could have been edited much better in my opinion.
The speakers sound great. However, either your recording rig has tinnitus or there's a parastitic oscillation in that amp somewhere.
Thanks Scott, yeah I know. Its extremely irritating. It’s the Strat and cord that picks it up. It was ok with the LP.
@@JohanSegeborn Ahh, is there a ballast in there or something? That's always a pain to deal with.
Originals back in or i’m outta here! Nice ’käivärämänty’-shots from archipelago.
Joan Jett have these JBL speakers on her Music Man HD130 212 amp!
Hmmm, I think those are made for driving the HI-mid section in old JBL 4-way PA systems.
Typical setup: 18", 15", 10", horn. Too harsh top-end for guitar in my opinion.
I remember when JBLs were all the rage. But I Couldn't afford them.
They’re very super pricey back then
Yeah...
The magnets are as big as the cones😳
JBL110 !!!
Instant weight doubling of an already heavy amp! What's not to love!?!?
I m struggling to raise my single cone deluxe reverb! Trying to imagine about the dual cone..🙀🙀☠️☠️
Wish you had some 425 altecs to compare
Yeah that’d be interesting
Wow ! 40 pounds each..if i recall correctly, an entire Twin Reverb combo is just over 60 lbs..
They sound as what they are, extreme, i like them but i very much preffer the originals.
I am I would say fairly new to being a fender guy. But there is no doubt I am a fender guy.