🐎La Guerre de Troie - Homère🏟 (Livre Audio)
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La guerre de Troie est un conflit légendaire provoqué par l'enlèvement d'Hélène, reine de Sparte, par le prince Troyen Pâris. En rétorsion, Ménélas, son époux, lève avec son frère Agamemnon une expédition rassemblant la plupart des rois grecs afin d'assiégé Troie, siège qui va durer 10 ans.
J'écoute quelques instants pour m'endormir ( j'en ai besoin sinon je pense à mes problèmes) des fois je suis tellement fasciné que j'écoute avec attention et des fois je suis tellement fatigué que je m'endors sans me souvenir de où j'en étais. Quoiqu'il arrive c'est toujours un bonheur. C'est tellement bien raconté !!! J'hésite à passer à un autre livre audio ou bien le réécouter une fois fini. C'est vraiment un plaisir d'écouter cela les yeux fermés ! Un grand merci et un grand bravo ! Vous avez réussi à me faire aimer l'antiquité alors que cela ne m'avait jamais intéressé jusque là ! J'ai envie d'apprendre grâce à vous :). MERCI :)
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Moi aussi ✋
Tout pareil, j'écoute en m'endormant, j'adore !!!
N'oubliez jamais que nuls problème ne se résout au moment de dormir et que parfois les solutions se trouvent lorsqu'on ne les cherche plus...
Pareil
Une trés belle récitation seul bémol le nom des dieux olympiens en jupiter venus et junon meme si c'est les meme sa perturbe sinom merci pour cette récitation
Quel bonheur pour les esgourdes, merci mille fois pour toutes vos histoires, je n'aurai pu rêver meilleure narration.
Magnifique
Merci à Homere qui nous a fait connaître la guerre de Troi et merci au lecteur à la diction et voix superbe. Dans mon Pays rares ceux qui sont imprégnés de culture grec latine sauf l héritage des ruines romaines. Étant proche de cette grande culture antique je m y intéresse beaucoup philosophes poètes héros légendes etc ont marqué mon esprit. DJENANE Rachid d Alger.
Culture greco latine.
Troie et non Troi
Quel chef d oeuvre ! Sans parler du talent du lecteur .
Merci de nous faire découvrir ce merveilleux conteur qu'est Jean-Paul Bordes.
Bordes c'est aussi mon nom de famille😅😅😅
@@juliebordes4786 Psartek la famille ! 🙂
Un délice auditif !
Merci infiniment pour cette belle lecture
quel bonheur, merci
Tout simplement ... SUBLIME !!!
merci beaucoup pour cette lecture parfaite
Merci pour cette qualité de lecture, j'ai écouté avec grand plaisir.
Je préfère largement écouter des livres audio comme ça que de passer une heure avec une prof d'histoire qui nous explique mal
Génial. Merci beaucoup pour vos lectures, vraiment, merci.
Wawoo ta manière de raconter et impressionnante bonne continuation
Merçi pour le travail et la qualité de lecture..⚔🛡
Ce qu’il faut = c’est LIRE L’ Iliade et L’ Odyssée. Faciles d’accès, on les retrouve même en format de poche. Et LÀ, c’est le Texte d’ Homere Fabuleux et grandiose.
Ok boomer
"Facile d'accès"
Je ne déteste pas le fabuleux et le grandiose
C'est pas la guerre de Troie avant l'odyssée d'ulysse ?
Pour les enfants ou quelqu'un qui ne lit pas c'est pas mal quand même
J'ai aimé.... d'autres mythologie grecque nordique africaine indienne svp
Tellement la narration est bien conté c'est mieu qu'un film !!!
Belle narration, magnifique
Magnifique récit avec une très belle voix, si agréable.
Mille mercis 🌹
Merci beaucoup 🙏 un régal !
Meilleur narrateur
Magnifique malgré quelques anachronismes étranges.
Ça ne vous a pas fait péter de rire?😄
J'en suis bien d'accord. Et je trouve inexplicable de remplacer les noms propres des déesses et des dieux de la mythologie grecque par ceux de la mythologie latine. Cela fait vraiment ignare, je suis désolé de le dire.
Merci beaucoup pour cette lecture parfaite ❤
Merci pour ce travail
Je ne m'en lasse pas !
très bonne lecture
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Slt Ranto
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Merci.
Encore de belles histoires s'il vous plaît Mr fiction Merci beaucoup 🙇
"Les dieux s'amusent" de Vincent Lindon, lu par Jean Paul Bordes. Le minimum quand on diffuse du contenu magnifique comme celui ci est de le créditer. J ai mis du temps à le trouver mais il y a 9h30 d histoires incroyables sur les dieux, l'iliade et l'odysée!
Denis Lindon. Vincent c'est le comédien raté et poivrot.
Excellente narration !
Merci 🙏🏼
Merci 😁 j'adore 👍
Captivant. Je poursuis ma lecture (pardon mon audition). mélange de légendes historiques présentées délicieusement.
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Vous pouvez me dire qui raconte l histoire. Car j adore la voix et il lit trop bien. J aimerai avoir d autre livres audio
"Les dieux s amusent" de Vincent Lindon et lu par Jean Paul Bordes ;)
j'adore votre voix ❤️❤️
Très bonne lecture.Image de total war saga troy en plus.
Savoureux!Merci.
Merci
Beaucoup d'imagination excellent
Merci pour votre documentaires...
C'est la que l'ons ce dit que le film " Troie " àvec Brad Pitt est nul de toutes ses erreurs entre l'histoire et l'adaptation...
L'histoire originale est bien plus passionnante.
Cette chaine est merveilleuse
excellente lecture
Agamemnon: c' est si dur à articuler.
Aga Même Nom.
Génial je suis sans voix
C'est magnifique 😊 une pure délice
Cool
1:33:10 Lui aussi c'est un autre cas.
j'adore merci beaucouppppppppp !
Ya combien de pages
Magnifique💛
coucou ☻ Merci pour cette vidéo ♥
Super!!
Homère, revu et corrigé :-)
Avouons que, ce qui fait le charme de ce texte, ce sont, entre autres, les multiples anachronismes qui le parsèment, ainsi que les traits d'humour que l'on y trouve.
L'auteur pourrait-il se... "dénoncer", de sorte qu'on puisse bien évidemment... le féliciter?
Iiiii i lui
O il oiooooiiiioiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiioiiiiiii
Ouiii il lui ki l ko iiiiiioiiii il uuiiiiiiiiiiiioiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Ly il Kiki lui
Ou le critiquer ...
GENIAL
Merci pour cette merveille !
L'histoire arrangé elle a été faites par qui ? Merci !
(mr fictions semble etre fictionnel ;)
Homère
@@anfal6144 absolument pas homer c'est le texte original
Vraiment excellent merci 😊
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Quel est le lien avec l’Iliade ? Ou quelle est la source du moins. En tout cas super récit !
C'est homere qui a écrit l'illiade ainsi que l'odyssée
wow🥰
2:11:34 Le pauvre quand j'ai entendu ça je voulais pleurer si je serai là je l'aurai consolé
En français ça donne quoi ?
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Bonjour ! Dis grand, cela vient de la chaine Arte, que je conseille à tous ! AA
par contre c 'est un mythe romain ou grecque. parceque venus et une déesse romaine, normalement dans la version original ( grecque) c'est APHRODITE
Venus est assimilée à Aphrodite je crois...
Je pense qu'il s'agit d'une version remaniée du mythe par les Romains. Il n'y a pas que Vénus, Diane aussi étant le nom romain d'une déesse grecque, Artémis.
De même, l'expression "Qui va à la chasse perd sa place" n'est pas présente dans l'oeuvre originale, vu que cette expression tient son origine de la Bible.
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C'est les défauts de la traduction française. Les français l'ont toujours appelée Venus même en voulant parler de sa version grecque
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Je trouve un poil dommage que l’on parle de nom romain (venus par exemple) et non grec (Aphrodite). Mais sinon un plaisir sans nom d’écouter cela
Effectivement j'ai noté aussi celà , je n'ai pas trop compris pourquoi Zeus est appelé Jupiter entre autre dans cette version .
Mais j'ai vraiment adoré .
Ah c'est ça que je me disais, je n'ai pas une grande culture alors je pensais que c'était moi qui était juste inculte ahah
Bonjour,
Je suis entièrement d'accord.
Merci pour cette adaptation, agréable à écouter. J'ai fait découvrir cette histoire à ma fille, grâce à ce livre audio. Pourriez-vous me dire qui est le conteur? Encore Merci!
Jean-Pierre Bordes
@@FredMurray Ah OK, merci!
jean paul bordes
SVP: j’aimerais connaître le nom du narrateur
C'est un résumé de l'Iliade et cette version diffère un peu.
Merci ! Un vrai bonheur d'écouter ça. Je me pose juste une question... "à cette époque il n'y avait ni radio ni journaux ni téléphone" : mais la rédaction même du texte n'est-elle pas censée dater de bien avant ?
ce n'est pas le texte original, c'est une version de l'auteur de la vidéo apparemment. le texte original est une poésie épique en vers d'Homère en grec ancien, écrite au VIIIe siècle avant JC.
à 1:06:48 "Comme l'eu pu le faire en ces temps reculés l'apparition d'un avion ou d'un hélicoptère" ???? M'étonnerais que ce soit dans le texte original !!
Sublime et fine l'histoire du petit doigt (de 1.36.02 à 1.36.43)😂😂😂
J'ai peur de passé pour un idiot mais pourquoi il y a des dieux romains dans une histoire de grecs ? merci d'avance a celui qui me repondra
C’est une erreur de sa part mais les Dieux grecque et romain sont globalement les mêmes exceptés les noms . ( Zeus=Jupiter, Mars=Arès etc)
@@DrAb600 oui bien entendu mais les histoires ne sont pas tout à fait les mêmes et je les trouve mieux romancé chez les grecs (genre l'histoire de méduse).
C'est vrai
@@guts1601 mais qu est ce que le monde est petit un french ark player
@@ARK__HAM037 hein ?!
Ya combien de pages
Homere parle de. " far west, de colt, et de winshester" ?
Juste.... pourquoi utiliser les noms romains (Vénus) pour un teste parlant de grecs...
Le nom de narrateur please. 🙏🙏🙏
Top mais...vous parlez de Jupiter. Il s'agit de Zeus chez les grecs et Jupiter chez les romains non?
Oui !! Jupiter est le pendant romain de Zeus !!
Voix chaude, reposante, chaleureuse, ...
Pour la question : Vénus ? ou Aphrodite ? La réponse est simple : il s'agit de la mythologie "gréco - latine", les romans ont repris la mythologie grecque telle qu'elle était, en changeant les noms grecs en latin:
Aphrodite = Vénus
Arès = Mars
Zeus = Jupiter
Hermès = Mercure
Poséidon = Neptune
Etc......
il manque une partie avec patrocle, non ?
Laerte le père d’Ulysse aussi fait partie des argonautes
La source du mythe est latine, c'est pour cela que les noms sont latins:
Vulcain est le nom latin du dieu forgeron Héphaëstos.
Tou le mondes veux ça place et ce disputé a ce sujet
eccellente narration mais quelle curieuse idée de convertir les noms !!!
je me serais abboné et ne me serais lassé d'écouter toutes les histoires !
Grande déception.
homere lui meme il chante lhistoire du troy 500ans apres il prononce james le mot grecee
Confondre systématiquement les noms des dieux et déesses en oubliant la mythologie grecque au profit de la mythologie latine, alors que nous sommes chez Homère, c'est très étrange. Jupiter pour Zeus, Diane pour Athéna et j'en oublie .... c'est incompréhensible ...
Je me suis toujours demandé pourquoi la mère d'Achilles ne l'a pas trempé dans Styx accroché a une corde !? Ou pourquoi elle n'a pas immergé le pied après l'avoir sorti de l'eau !?
Mais si elle avait fait ca, il n' y aurait pas d'histoire a raconter, j'imagine.
En le tenant par les cheveux!
@@sebastiendenis1128 ça c'est une autre histoire, celle de Samson et Dalila ^^
@@whatelse7425 Le rapport,le rapport quelle est le rapport,le rapport😋,on est en mythologie grecque pas dans la religion chrétienne 😊😜😛
@@esthaduciel9431 🤔😉
@@whatelse7425 En plus c'est vrai
Bonjour, quel est le nom du narrateur svp? Merci d´avance pour votre retour.
Paris fait ses « valises » Super anachronisme 😂😂😂
Oui une très grosse anachronisme
En tout cas mieux dire la vérité que dire des Mentries comme eux ici .Tous ridiculous en Plus.
Cette guerre n’a rien avoir avec la Grèce 😂 Alalala ils ont trop modifier l’histoire c’est incroyable quand même
l.original del lodyse il parle james de mot grec le grec il sont arrive 500 ane apre les darrdanes de troy et le trace et les ilyrians
Agamemnon était le roi de mycènes pas d'Argos 🤚🤚
il s'uffit de lire dans un livre. Pourquoi vous écouter ?
Il suffit de passer son chemin, pourquoi avoir l'air hautain?
Mdr!!! parler de téléphone pour cette époque? Mais ce narrateur est malade, mdr!!!
ca aurait ete mieux avec les nom grecs des dieux
Zeus, Athéna Aphrodite, Ares
pas de grece on temp gerre de troy seulment iliryian et epiriotes meme famille pelezges
Et ben mon vieux qu'est-ce que ça peut faire une femme
Jaime pas du tout ta narration mais respect a toi pour ton travail .
😇🥰😊😒😒