Just happen to come across this vid this morning. Super glad I did, Fact my main/current players kit is a PDP also drew me in with what I see you have setup there in back,(mines the Concept), but aside from RdaivdR & maybe SoundlikeaDrum, I have not come across many,(if any), actual vids like this and I would Love to see more as a Drum-nut so Highly encourage you to put out more vids like this one, will keep watching...Thanks!
Awesome work Mike! Great execution of a great concept. I ended up watching all your videos today and subscribed. Really enjoyed the projects you have been working on.
“Some might argue this entire drum is pointless and unnecessary.” Lol Being cognizant of our own quirks and absurdities is a necessity for inner peace. FYI, that drum looks bad ass and cranked up sounds amazing!
Hey Mike ! Very interesting vid. Just one idea : what about using glue (epoxy or other) to keep your inserts from spinning? I did not see these little claws very well so I'm not sure. Also I had a chance to visit Asba's workshop in Lyon; they're really nice people who revived a very interesting brand of drums. Since that visit I started building drums -originally I'm a luthier/guitar tech who happens to play the drums, nobody's perfect- , I now have a nice kit made of reclaimed wood (spruce and pine), all shells are made of staves, like a wine barrel but quite thin, and I'm very happy with the sound. You have a good channel, keep it up ! Greetings from France.
Can you make it less deep and still use this set up? More akin to a standard or perhaps piccolo snare? That would be sweet! So how do you make sure that all the lugs are the proper distance from one another? 🤔 that is the only problem I would have with it, as a standard setup you don't have to worry about it.
The main concern with depth is making sure to leave enough room for the snare strainer after the heads and everything are on and tightened. The working area for a strainer on my drum is about 2 inches once all the parts come together, so it really calls for a piccolo strainer of some kind. Using the equipment that I did, the shortest shell depth would have to be no less than 5 inches, and the strainer would be in a REALLY tight spot.
Nice. Pretty cool concept, if a bit redundant for obvious reasons - too cumbersome to swap out live and in the studio you can just grab another snare. Great execution though! And a nice video to boot.
This is awesome! How do you calculate what length of tension rod you need related to shell depth? For example for an 8"? I see you've done a great job of not having excess thread poking through the central hoop. Thank you for the vid!
It was a bit of calculation and a bit of luck. I already had the top claws and the counterhoops, so I could measure about where the top of the tension rod would be. After that, it just needed to be short enough to avoid going past the "equator" of the shell and the length of the lug insert would be enough to get a good grip on the bottom end. So...for a 7" deep drum I used 3.5" rods and long Ludwig-style inserts and that just worked out. Thanks for your interest!
@@mikesdrumtech145 thank you for your reply. It's a beautiful drum! The bolt or screw that secures the equator to the drum is also brilliant. Are they a special type?
@@theubergoober Thank you. The screws used for the equator ring are 1-inch, 10-24 countersunk screws with an Allen head. I spaced everything with 3 or 4 small washers between the ring and the shell, which fit pretty snugly. Everything was secured on the inside with 10-24 Nyloc-style nuts. I used a drill press to make the holes and to countersink them so that the screws would not hang up the tensioners.
sand the chrome off the tensioner piece and the lug insert, then use a small amount of JB weld to glue them in. the lug inserts don't need to move. Just make sure to use a small amount and not contaminate the threads of the lug inserts.
There really isn't much video to work with...if at all. This project kind of evolved over several months and when it came time to finally build the thing I was too caught up in getting it done to even grab a camera.
Hi Mike!!!! Not a subscriber yet, and that does mean I won't, it just simply means that I haven't just yet. OK... I REALLY, SUPER DOOPER DON'T, REALLY like to be considered a D.H. or an A.H. when making my comments!!! And I sincerely hope that you don't see this comment as anything other than constructive criticism!!! Do we have an "Accord" of sorts??? I hope we do.... Buttttttt, the word SNARE ( as in snare drum, ) IS NOT ANOTHER WORD FOR TRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANOTHER word for SNARE ( drum ) can be, "field drum," "side drum" and there are others, but not "TRAP." The word "trap" as associated with drums, came from a time when drummers were experimenting with additional percussive "con-TRAP-tions," which were placed in a "tray" of sorts, that was either mounted or affixed a top the bass drum. As that is where drummers would place their "contraptions" for easy access, which eventually "contraptions" became "traps." When referring to a "snare" as a "trap," that would be considered when hanging a looped wire or rope from a tree branch or some other way to "hang" that "snare wire" in order to capture or trap something. Such as, an animal for food, or as in the movies, a person trying to escape from somewhere or something, even the military saw them in the Korean and Vietnam wars to capture soldiers. Again... I am not trying to be sarcastic, but I feel the need to help in the "vernacular" used as referencing to the word "trap" and "snare" when comparing as percussion instruments. ANYWAY, KEEP ON KEEPING ON BROTHER DRUMMER!!!!! PEACE!!!!! 🤘🏼
Just happen to come across this vid this morning.
Super glad I did, Fact my main/current players kit is a PDP also drew me in with what I see you have setup there in back,(mines the Concept),
but aside from RdaivdR & maybe SoundlikeaDrum, I have not come across many,(if any), actual vids like this and I would Love to see more as a Drum-nut so Highly encourage you to put out more vids like this one, will keep watching...Thanks!
Mike - Brilliant, what a great idea!
A very versatile design!
Cool snare Mike! 21:57 😆👍 just like Mozart said! And I really think he was an outstanding musician! ☝😜
Awesome work Mike! Great execution of a great concept. I ended up watching all your videos today and subscribed. Really enjoyed the projects you have been working on.
What a work of art... sounds fantastic!
Snare sounds great! BtW, your kit sounds great, too!
Impressive copy of the ASBA drum! Awesome work. I subbed!
Hi Mike, Slingerland in the late 70's early 80's made a 12 lug top 6 lug bottom called a 2 to 1 snare. There is currently one available on Reverb.
Nice drumming and great sound! :)
04:17 reminded me of The Two Princess sound. I guess Aaron Comess used a Brady on that one.
I like the concept, and I would probably buy one.
Cool build, nice sound!
“Some might argue this entire drum is pointless and unnecessary.” Lol
Being cognizant of our own quirks and absurdities is a necessity for inner peace. FYI, that drum looks bad ass and cranked up sounds amazing!
Nice take on this model! It was interesting to watch. But remember, Coke is bad for you! Regards from France.
Great video
Hey Mike ! Very interesting vid. Just one idea : what about using glue (epoxy or other) to keep your inserts from spinning? I did not see these little claws very well so I'm not sure.
Also I had a chance to visit Asba's workshop in Lyon; they're really nice people who revived a very interesting brand of drums.
Since that visit I started building drums -originally I'm a luthier/guitar tech who happens to play the drums, nobody's perfect- , I now have a nice kit made of reclaimed wood (spruce and pine), all shells are made of staves, like a wine barrel but quite thin, and I'm very happy with the sound.
You have a good channel, keep it up ! Greetings from France.
Very cool! What did you use for spacers on the center hoop mounting?
Can you make it less deep and still use this set up? More akin to a standard or perhaps piccolo snare? That would be sweet! So how do you make sure that all the lugs are the proper distance from one another? 🤔 that is the only problem I would have with it, as a standard setup you don't have to worry about it.
The main concern with depth is making sure to leave enough room for the snare strainer after the heads and everything are on and tightened. The working area for a strainer on my drum is about 2 inches once all the parts come together, so it really calls for a piccolo strainer of some kind. Using the equipment that I did, the shortest shell depth would have to be no less than 5 inches, and the strainer would be in a REALLY tight spot.
@@mikesdrumtech145 Good to know. I'll recommend this and send it to my drummer. Thanks a bunch.
Nice. Pretty cool concept, if a bit redundant for obvious reasons - too cumbersome to swap out live and in the studio you can just grab another snare.
Great execution though! And a nice video to boot.
What size are your t-rods are they the same top and bottom?
12-24 thread, 3.5 inches as measured from the base of the screw head.
It looks like the drum has braces, there is a lot of metal there brother man. But rock on do what you do
This is awesome! How do you calculate what length of tension rod you need related to shell depth? For example for an 8"? I see you've done a great job of not having excess thread poking through the central hoop. Thank you for the vid!
It was a bit of calculation and a bit of luck. I already had the top claws and the counterhoops, so I could measure about where the top of the tension rod would be. After that, it just needed to be short enough to avoid going past the "equator" of the shell and the length of the lug insert would be enough to get a good grip on the bottom end. So...for a 7" deep drum I used 3.5" rods and long Ludwig-style inserts and that just worked out. Thanks for your interest!
@@mikesdrumtech145 thank you for your reply. It's a beautiful drum! The bolt or screw that secures the equator to the drum is also brilliant. Are they a special type?
@@theubergoober Thank you. The screws used for the equator ring are 1-inch, 10-24 countersunk screws with an Allen head. I spaced everything with 3 or 4 small washers between the ring and the shell, which fit pretty snugly. Everything was secured on the inside with 10-24 Nyloc-style nuts. I used a drill press to make the holes and to countersink them so that the screws would not hang up the tensioners.
Awesome! Thank you so much, that's been so helpful!
impressive
sand the chrome off the tensioner piece and the lug insert, then use a small amount of JB weld to glue them in. the lug inserts don't need to move. Just make sure to use a small amount and not contaminate the threads of the lug inserts.
Let me demonstrate the snare drum. Plays the whole set. Nice.
I dig it 💯🥁
8 lug 13 about standard?
On a snare drum...yes. I like 6 on a 13" tom, but I tend to add a couple more per side on snares to assist with higher tunings.
This was a super interesting video and ASBA’s version is a pretty cool concept. Did you happen to make a video of you building it?
There really isn't much video to work with...if at all. This project kind of evolved over several months and when it came time to finally build the thing I was too caught up in getting it done to even grab a camera.
@@mikesdrumtech145 it’s all good. I think it looks and sounds fantastic!! Great job! 🤘🏻🥁🤓
Hmm, I like my throw-off a bit to my left.
Hi Mike!!!!
Not a subscriber yet, and that does mean I won't, it just simply means that I haven't just yet.
OK... I REALLY, SUPER DOOPER DON'T, REALLY like to be considered a D.H. or an A.H. when making my comments!!! And I sincerely hope that you don't see this comment as anything other than constructive criticism!!! Do we have an "Accord" of sorts??? I hope we do....
Buttttttt, the word SNARE ( as in snare drum, ) IS NOT ANOTHER WORD FOR TRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ANOTHER word for SNARE ( drum ) can be, "field drum," "side drum" and there are others, but not "TRAP." The word "trap" as associated with drums, came from a time when drummers were experimenting with additional percussive "con-TRAP-tions," which were placed in a "tray" of sorts, that was either mounted or affixed a top the bass drum. As that is where drummers would place their "contraptions" for easy access, which eventually "contraptions" became "traps."
When referring to a "snare" as a "trap," that would be considered when hanging a looped wire or rope from a tree branch or some other way to "hang" that "snare wire" in order to capture or trap something. Such as, an animal for food, or as in the movies, a person trying to escape from somewhere or something, even the military saw them in the Korean and Vietnam wars to capture soldiers.
Again... I am not trying to be sarcastic, but I feel the need to help in the "vernacular" used as referencing to the word "trap" and "snare" when comparing as percussion instruments.
ANYWAY, KEEP ON KEEPING ON BROTHER DRUMMER!!!!!
PEACE!!!!! 🤘🏼