Just play the combat versions and everyone will understand. seriously Fire may be low in the ranking, but when he played the combat version I was like "Hold up!" and the Mystic marsh that is his number 1....he played the combat version and "nuff said.... number 1"
Scruffy has a great video about how Pikmin 2's cave music is mostly made out of procedurally assorted segments of melodies. I highly recommend eveyone check it out. Puts it into perspective why the music is so chaotic.
The submerged castle music so perfectly encapsulates a tone of "You're not supposed to be here" that I couldn't imagine the arcaic halls without it EDIT: Since they weren't here, where would The Waterwraith chase, Boss theme, Vunureble WaterWraith & Titan Dweevil theme rank?
Fun fact: the submerged castle is the only dungeon track to not have an Olimar and Louie variant, meaning Both captains are having the exact same feelings of dread coming down there
Personally the boss music and titan dweevil is above Mystic Marsh, vulnerable waterwraith would be very low (it sounds bad but it's meant to sound goofy/bad) and the chase theme is pretty good, i'd probably put it the same rank as Mystic.
I wish I was surprised, but the Switch kind of is so overly praised as a console that many people didn't realize the Nintendo seal of quality used to mean every byte of a game was scrutinized and now....they're reselling $60 that have half the content removed and ensuring it's the only version you can play. (though Pikmin 1 and 2 being ported over is the least offensive, I'm still cross about the Donkey Kong Country games though).
There IS something to say about Nintendo nerfing the music on the Switch port..... so much for "best console" when they don't even care enough to check the bits on a MIDI channel....
I've always found the toy theme unsettling. Like it's goofy and upbeat but there's subtle darker undertones, like there's something more sinister it's trying to hide. Fits the theme of the floor where it's a playroom, but you know something is wrong with how the planet is blatantly abandoned and dilapidated
Then they made it a whole level in Pikmin 4 where no matter what you think is going on with the family that lives in that house...they have a MASSIVE f8cking pest problem AND left the stove on when they left.
I'm glad they brought back caves in Pikmin 4, but without these weird modernist Erik Satie-esque melodies backing up the action they don't feel remotely the same. Incidentally, Frontier Cavern is welcome on my aux cord any day. I even have it on the iPod I use at the gym, along with DK Island Swing and the 8-bit Nintendo Land theme.
Absolutely crazy to me how Mystic Marsh plays exactly once through all of pikmin 2's campaign and challenge mode. Absolute banger, and my absolute favourite song in the whole series. Nobody ever talks about it, so its always great to see it get the love it deserves. It sounds unlike anything else in pikmin, it's so calming yet it sounds imposing and ominous, conveys that feeling of being somewhere you're not supposed to perfectly, while still sounding really soothing, it's just a beautiful track.
Crazier still is how it was originally supposed to appear in Submerged Castle and Dream Den, but Waterwraith Chase and Rest Area are hard-coded to play instead.
The rest Area music is my favorite. It gives off this very specific vibe that is why Pikmin 2 is my favorite in the series. Its aesthetic gives off themes of nature, nostalgia, and like small stuff. Can’t put into words lol
I absolutely love the weird and atmospheric pikmin 2 cave music. It has a very organic feel to it, like you could compose half these tracks with bits and bobs you find in your backyard. A long blade of grass for a whistle, a stick of bamboo for a flute, a tin can or scrap metal for percussion, a glass milk jug you can tap or blow in, some pebbles in a plastic bag for a tamborine... not to mention a bunch of other strange and uncommon sounds you could make using who-knows-what. Plus the interactive and evolving nature of the music really makes it feel like when you're a kid and you're just jamming with your friends making music from whatever you find in your grandpa's old yard.
A rubber band to make that 'boing boing' sound (that jawharp solo in the snagret hole is absolute fire), a literal dripping daucet for the music in shower room! I could go on...
The Cave music in this game is probably some of the most Bizarre music i’ve ever heard in a video game, or even any sort of media at all. It has this… “Vibe” that can’t be matched anywhere else.
I absolutely love the piano that plays when an enemy is near in emergence cave 1 & 2, soil 1, and maybe some others idk. When you didn't even mention that piano when talking about the emergence caves, my face stared into the screen like a Bulborb
Genuinely a great overview. I recommend scruffy's video on how the game creates the structure of each song. It plays random melody segments over top the constant background harmony to create an inhuman sounding composition.
The fact that a lot of the notes are somewhat randomized is so interesting to me?? Everything about the cave music feels so random even without that being a part of it
My favorite part of flooded stump is that each layer of the track is in a different time signature, creating a pretty funky beat when combined. The base track is in 5/4, the “Enemy Near” theme is in 3/4, and the Battle/Working themes are both in 4/4
I didn’t realize until now how much I needed this ranking hahaha, I fricking love Pikmin 2 music, I listen to the ost to work and to chill alike. And your comments with the music made me laugh. Amazing video, please make more of these music rankings 🌱
The problem with ranking cave music is a lot of the songs go from trash to Blast when you add the combat and treasure variants. Fire is near the bottom but the combat variant is near the top for me. Especially Louie's version with the hip hop beat.
I enjoy Soil 3. The instruments they chose arent built for listenability, but I really like how weird they are. Especially the 'Enemy Near' variation, its really freaky and I like it. I would never claim its top tier- or anyone should love it, but I think its cool. Also an overworld theme ranking video would be wicked cool.
Great video, I'm glad to hear music ranking video that actually plays enough of the music so people unfamiliar with all the tracks can appreciate them. Some feedback though, would have been nice to mention the composers Wakai and Totaka
I never thought I'd find a video talking about this. Thank you for giving Metal 1 the credit it deserves, it's one of my favorites in the game because of how uplifting but ominous it is.
Great to see a video about the cave tracks! Especially because I can finally hear someone talk about Graphite Gulch, a track that always gets me all philosophical and reflective.
Honestly I always loved metal sublevels and the tracks made me think of exploring the lost civilization we were exploring these strange sublevels of whatever humans left behind
No matter what anyone says, the Submerged Castle theme will always be my favorite. It fits the feeling of fear so well, and besides that, I kinda just like it, it just sounds nice. I like the instruments a lot
Soil 3 is wonderful. It’s also absolutely freakish and avant-garde as hell, but that combat beat-drop is untouched. Pikmin classic. The following slew of entries are so much worse with no bite to save them.
Perplexing Pool > Awakening Wood > Wistful Wild > Valley of Repose. That's my list. All pleasant songs, but I feel unlike Distant Tundra where the ambiance works with the snowy theme, Valley of Repose just reminds you of how painfully empty the stage is for one you're forced to do 3 times. While Perplexing pool is the only stage that really feels like it evolves the more you listen to it and is just fun to listen to in general. Awakening wood and Wistful Wild are both fantastic and honestly about the same, but as Awakening Wood is upbeat and encouraging while Wistful wild is kind of dreary and serious, I have to give it to Awakening Wood as something I'd rather listen to casually.
This is the first time I'm able to listen to the cave music and gotta say theyre really damn neat! Usually when I play either its with low volume or just the general noises of the ambiance and pikmins themselves distract me way too much from it since they then to be a bit more loud.
Tropical Wilds comes VERY CLOSE though.... that song is a BOP and I hope everyone knows it. But you're right, Forest of Hope is top tier. Found this one remix of it that adds more of a drum beat and piano that's just absolutely BEAUTIFUL.
Flooded stump is the theme that would have played in the aquarium caves if they were also in 2, change my mind. Especially for the freshwater version (the one in mud pit for example)
The best music is Bulblax Kingdom and Shower Room always hum them when playing Submerged Castle is also great at setting the mood knowing something’s coming even if you don’t know what and you need to hurry I don’t know if this is an actual feature but when playing Pikmin 4 for the first time the music seemed to increase as time went on being inaudible at first but as you explore and realise the area is the same as The Submerged Castle the music becomes more noticeable, I had a fan blaring while played for the first time so couldn’t tell initially but I noticed and it clicked this was Submerged Castle just before the WaterWraith showed up
I dont get why people don’t like pikmin 2. The challenge of the brutal caves combined with the usually calming music creates an amazing experience. And don’t get me started on the feeling you get when the rest floor music starts playing… the entire game is just so memorable
i think for me, i dont like pikmin 2 because i find it frustrating. like i always come out of playing it feeling slightly salty lol, whereas i feel much more chill playing like 1 and 4. the music is awesome in 2 though
I think something that the later Pikmin games forgot was the attention to detail when comes to sound design like almost every theme in Pikmin 2 has an Olimar and Louie variant depending on who’s in control and I like how it shows a bit of their personalities, Olimar’s themes are way more complete and melodic due to him being used to the Pikmin planet than he was in the first game while Louie’s are more off usually missing instruments or skipping notes, fitting Louie’s simple minded scatterbrained nature. This doesn’t exist in Pikmin 3 and 4 alongside distinct whistle sounds for the captains you never notice these details until they’re gone.
4's is ambitious in it's own way. I don't think it's nearly as strong as 2's, but I respect what they attempted with it. 3's probably lacks the alternate variants for the different captains because you swap between them so much more. Even if it's only slight changes, I think it would get pretty cluttered constantly swapping between them. Also because the technology being used is different, and might not handle swapping tracks on the fly as elegantly.
Combat theme of fire hits hard. Yeah as a kid I never realized the floors were randomized even on replay…. And didnt understand why the music was so chaotic pick 2 and one are legendary with thier music mixing and 2 having more just was a good time. And again why a pikmin rouglight dungeon crawler would be amazing…. Endless Subterranean Hocatotation scramble
Nice video fun listen especially. Your right those Brawl messages for the demo being up made me jump. Bonus points coming out of an old av tv speaker all loud and muffled.
So, if the Nintendo Music App adds Pikmin 2 to it's OST selection, i guess we'll finally have canon names for the cave themes, that is if they don't take 20 years to add it to the app and also add the cave themes in the first place....
i remember back in like, 2005-6 before youtube was huge i would literally go leave my GameCube turned on while in the sublevel that played mystic marsh, based placement for sure
I love the grass music for some reason! I also have a video suggestion; perhaps ranking the Pikmin 2 challenge mode missions by how hard they are to purple-flower complete? As a kid I remember thinking some of those were impossible to beat without losing Pikmin 😅
Definitely My Favorite music is the Toy Houses and Flooded Stump Also thank you for telling me they had names because I would have never payed attention to it if it was shown right at my screen Seriously I can go to a playlist and never remember any cave name (probably still won’t)
i feel like a lot of the reused main melodies feel sort of barren because they have to have space for the variation tracks without it sounding cluttered. A lot of the pikmin 2 cave music isn't stuff I would actively search for and listen to, but I think it's enjoyable in game.
I loved getting to play 1 & 2 for the first time on switch i never realized there were missing instruments & and that's quite dissapointong. I hope there's a path. & you should've put on the Louie versions too. They get pretty funky
Emergence Cave 2 is gorgeous. A lot of these tracks come across as old Aphex Twin or Squarepusher tracks. I would kill for an officially mixed album of the Pikmin 2 ost from the composer. Because I think only so much of the beauty comes out in listening to the stems and only through the chaos of live gameplay does it sound right. To me at least. I think my favorite detail in a soundtrack I've ever discovered is that once when I lost like 50 Pikmin on one floor the instrumentation started getting messed up and off tempo. Literally the game removed some instruments and beats from the song to represent the catastrophic loss of Pikmin I experienced. I don't think I've ever heard a video game soundtrack embrace its interactive medium like Pikmin 2 has. It seriously needs to be studied because I want this experience in more games.
I have every variant of all these songs on my driving playlist and I can always tell when I'm listening to Pikmin 2 cave music when they pop up. Still unsure if that's a good thing
Soil 2 is my favorite for all of its variations. I think metal 3 is substantially better in Louie's version. Specifically the working and treasure themes which has a sort of metalworks vibe to it that really fits the industrial metal levels you are in. Theres just something satisfying about the rythmic sounds that makes it feel like the pikmin themselves are the workers with an almost assembly line organization, the beats like a constant march towards progress. I don't know what it is that makes Louie sound better than Olimars version (and i typically dont like the Louie versions.) Perhaps its the added (or rather removal of) notes and sounds that gives it a more rythmic and wacky feeling too it, More alive and somewhat chaotic and random in how the notes are played, yet theres an unusual sense of order in all that chaos. When playing mods i would often have cave holes covered so i can leave 1 pikmin working so i could hear the music play as i completed the level. i know nothing of music but I probably dont even make any sense.
Pikmin 2 cave music is the strongest evidence that caves are in another dimension entirely
Surely not the one with the trans dimensional being
Well that, and why the hell is there a cave with greenery and full sunlight underground??
@@Most_Jeffinitely in that particular sublevel you have fallen out the bottom of a birdhouse
In the previous sublevel
Loui reportedly caught playing gassy grove on the aux, asked to leave PNF-404
*forcefully exiled from
I don’t think anyone needs a reason to do that to Loui.
The hardest part of being a pikmin fan is explaining to your friends why "soil 1" or "snagret hole" is your favourite song
Just play the combat versions and everyone will understand. seriously Fire may be low in the ranking, but when he played the combat version I was like "Hold up!" and the Mystic marsh that is his number 1....he played the combat version and "nuff said.... number 1"
This is my situation with Concrete 2, nobody gives it a chance...
A great alternative name for the Giant Breadbug theme is "that one dinky-ass Pikmin song"
"You better not be turning people into bread when I get there."
My dinky-ass:
“You’d better not be thinking about Pikmin 2 OST: Giant Breadbug (Louie)!”
My dinky ass:
Perfect description of the song.
tbh there's a lot of dinkyass pikmin songs you might need to be more specific
@@ghostformanek5664 This may be the dinkiest though
Scruffy has a great video about how Pikmin 2's cave music is mostly made out of procedurally assorted segments of melodies. I highly recommend eveyone check it out. Puts it into perspective why the music is so chaotic.
The submerged castle music so perfectly encapsulates a tone of "You're not supposed to be here" that I couldn't imagine the arcaic halls without it
EDIT: Since they weren't here, where would The Waterwraith chase, Boss theme, Vunureble WaterWraith & Titan Dweevil theme rank?
Fun fact: the submerged castle is the only dungeon track to not have an Olimar and Louie variant, meaning Both captains are having the exact same feelings of dread coming down there
They'd all probably be below Mystic Marsh, except for the Vulnerable Waterwraith which would be pretty low on the list
I feel like the vulnerable water wraith is pretty high I find it kinda funny
I love the vulnerable water wraith theme, it basically spells out "that's not supposed to happen"
Personally the boss music and titan dweevil is above Mystic Marsh, vulnerable waterwraith would be very low (it sounds bad but it's meant to sound goofy/bad) and the chase theme is pretty good, i'd probably put it the same rank as Mystic.
Ive never noticed the switch taking away an instrument and now i wish you never told me
I wish I was surprised, but the Switch kind of is so overly praised as a console that many people didn't realize the Nintendo seal of quality used to mean every byte of a game was scrutinized and now....they're reselling $60 that have half the content removed and ensuring it's the only version you can play. (though Pikmin 1 and 2 being ported over is the least offensive, I'm still cross about the Donkey Kong Country games though).
ALRIGHT NINTENDO YOU CAN TAKE MY WEED AND MY JOKES BUT YOU CAN'T TAKE MY INSTRUMENT FROM SOME RANDOM SONG IN A RANDOM FUCKING CAVE
the british government stooges are at it again
There IS something to say about Nintendo nerfing the music on the Switch port..... so much for "best console" when they don't even care enough to check the bits on a MIDI channel....
Jellyfloat pool just hits different, imagine that song playing in a glowing neon blue pool in the middle of the night, absolutely fire
I've always found the toy theme unsettling. Like it's goofy and upbeat but there's subtle darker undertones, like there's something more sinister it's trying to hide. Fits the theme of the floor where it's a playroom, but you know something is wrong with how the planet is blatantly abandoned and dilapidated
Then they made it a whole level in Pikmin 4 where no matter what you think is going on with the family that lives in that house...they have a MASSIVE f8cking pest problem AND left the stove on when they left.
I'm glad they brought back caves in Pikmin 4, but without these weird modernist Erik Satie-esque melodies backing up the action they don't feel remotely the same.
Incidentally, Frontier Cavern is welcome on my aux cord any day. I even have it on the iPod I use at the gym, along with DK Island Swing and the 8-bit Nintendo Land theme.
I listened to Mystic Marsh while learning blender. Made me feel like a magician enacting master level conjuration spells
Graphite Gulch is #1 in my heart
Glad to see I’m not the only one! This one hits different. ❤️
Absolutely crazy to me how Mystic Marsh plays exactly once through all of pikmin 2's campaign and challenge mode. Absolute banger, and my absolute favourite song in the whole series. Nobody ever talks about it, so its always great to see it get the love it deserves.
It sounds unlike anything else in pikmin, it's so calming yet it sounds imposing and ominous, conveys that feeling of being somewhere you're not supposed to perfectly, while still sounding really soothing, it's just a beautiful track.
Crazier still is how it was originally supposed to appear in Submerged Castle and Dream Den, but Waterwraith Chase and Rest Area are hard-coded to play instead.
The rest Area music is my favorite. It gives off this very specific vibe that is why Pikmin 2 is my favorite in the series. Its aesthetic gives off themes of nature, nostalgia, and like small stuff. Can’t put into words lol
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I wish Pikmin 4 had Pikmin 2 cave music
Honestly there's a lot of things Pikmin 2 did that we wish made it to pikmin 4. XD
@ I also would like to say here right now, that the final cave bosses from Pikmin to should have been in the final caves of pikmin Four
Bowblax being on the members shoutout caught me way off guard lmao
Same
I can’t believe you wouldn’t put a warning before the giant breadbug jumpscare, youve terrified all those poor reporters
I absolutely love the weird and atmospheric pikmin 2 cave music. It has a very organic feel to it, like you could compose half these tracks with bits and bobs you find in your backyard. A long blade of grass for a whistle, a stick of bamboo for a flute, a tin can or scrap metal for percussion, a glass milk jug you can tap or blow in, some pebbles in a plastic bag for a tamborine... not to mention a bunch of other strange and uncommon sounds you could make using who-knows-what. Plus the interactive and evolving nature of the music really makes it feel like when you're a kid and you're just jamming with your friends making music from whatever you find in your grandpa's old yard.
A rubber band to make that 'boing boing' sound (that jawharp solo in the snagret hole is absolute fire), a literal dripping daucet for the music in shower room! I could go on...
thats so true actually!
Fartcore is my favorite genre of cave music
Honestly, I wouldn't freaking surprise me if that actually happens in the future.
slurpcore or fartcore who winning the twerkoff
The Cave music in this game is probably some of the most Bizarre music i’ve ever heard in a video game, or even any sort of media at all. It has this… “Vibe” that can’t be matched anywhere else.
I absolutely love the piano that plays when an enemy is near in emergence cave 1 & 2, soil 1, and maybe some others idk. When you didn't even mention that piano when talking about the emergence caves, my face stared into the screen like a Bulborb
emergence cave is the music that plays when the food in my house became lost media
This is the greatest UA-cam video I have seen in my entire life.
Lets go!!! Polar the goat
Cant wait for every enemy theme in pikmin 4 ranked...
I guess every music has a *Cave story*
Yea, i couldn't think of a better pun.
Genuinely a great overview. I recommend scruffy's video on how the game creates the structure of each song. It plays random melody segments over top the constant background harmony to create an inhuman sounding composition.
Louie
The fact that a lot of the notes are somewhat randomized is so interesting to me?? Everything about the cave music feels so random even without that being a part of it
I love "In The Dolphin Over The PNF-404". Banger from Neutral Pik Hotel
My favorite part of flooded stump is that each layer of the track is in a different time signature, creating a pretty funky beat when combined. The base track is in 5/4, the “Enemy Near” theme is in 3/4, and the Battle/Working themes are both in 4/4
I didn’t realize until now how much I needed this ranking hahaha, I fricking love Pikmin 2 music, I listen to the ost to work and to chill alike. And your comments with the music made me laugh. Amazing video, please make more of these music rankings 🌱
The problem with ranking cave music is a lot of the songs go from trash to Blast when you add the combat and treasure variants. Fire is near the bottom but the combat variant is near the top for me. Especially Louie's version with the hip hop beat.
I enjoy Soil 3. The instruments they chose arent built for listenability, but I really like how weird they are. Especially the 'Enemy Near' variation, its really freaky and I like it. I would never claim its top tier- or anyone should love it, but I think its cool.
Also an overworld theme ranking video would be wicked cool.
you should talk about pikmin creepypastas if you ever exhaust all other options. im sure there’s some wacky shit out there.
I wish these were the voices of my head
Im a huge fan of the Soil 2 theme from the awakening woods cave as its just so goofy
Bro made a video about my favorite game, and used the cover of my favorite album as part of the thumbnail.
Instant click.
Great video, I'm glad to hear music ranking video that actually plays enough of the music so people unfamiliar with all the tracks can appreciate them. Some feedback though, would have been nice to mention the composers Wakai and Totaka
I never thought I'd find a video talking about this. Thank you for giving Metal 1 the credit it deserves, it's one of my favorites in the game because of how uplifting but ominous it is.
I always get uncontrollable goose bumps when listening to Pikmin 2 music
Great to see a video about the cave tracks!
Especially because I can finally hear someone talk about Graphite Gulch, a track that always gets me all philosophical and reflective.
Honestly I always loved metal sublevels and the tracks made me think of exploring the lost civilization we were exploring these strange sublevels of whatever humans left behind
I guess the missing instruments in the switch version are now lost media 😱
This video was so good! I find the cave music to be one of the more underrated aspects of pikmin 2 so I appreciate the deeper look.
No matter what anyone says, the Submerged Castle theme will always be my favorite. It fits the feeling of fear so well, and besides that, I kinda just like it, it just sounds nice. I like the instruments a lot
I'm here to see Submerged Castle as number 1 because that is the most unsettling soundtrack I've ever heard for a game in general
For the kind of game that Pikmin appears to be on the box, flooded stump is a really cool theme that takes you by surprise.
Soil 3 is wonderful. It’s also absolutely freakish and avant-garde as hell, but that combat beat-drop is untouched. Pikmin classic. The following slew of entries are so much worse with no bite to save them.
Id love to see a ranking of the overworld themes
Perplexing Pool > Awakening Wood > Wistful Wild > Valley of Repose. That's my list. All pleasant songs, but I feel unlike Distant Tundra where the ambiance works with the snowy theme, Valley of Repose just reminds you of how painfully empty the stage is for one you're forced to do 3 times. While Perplexing pool is the only stage that really feels like it evolves the more you listen to it and is just fun to listen to in general. Awakening wood and Wistful Wild are both fantastic and honestly about the same, but as Awakening Wood is upbeat and encouraging while Wistful wild is kind of dreary and serious, I have to give it to Awakening Wood as something I'd rather listen to casually.
Cave music is randomly generated btw, like the cave layout itself :)
Scruffy has a great video explaining it!
A lot of it is randomised so how it sounds according to one unofficial soundtrack isn't entirely indicative of the original programming.
This is the first time I'm able to listen to the cave music and gotta say theyre really damn neat! Usually when I play either its with low volume or just the general noises of the ambiance and pikmins themselves distract me way too much from it since they then to be a bit more loud.
I love the Bulblax Kingdom's cave music, It's by far my favorite, I can't pinpoint why
Nothing will beat the forest of hope theme from Pikmin 1
Tropical Wilds comes VERY CLOSE though.... that song is a BOP and I hope everyone knows it.
But you're right, Forest of Hope is top tier. Found this one remix of it that adds more of a drum beat and piano that's just absolutely BEAUTIFUL.
oh wow, i actually needed this. i always have a hard time picking a music for the colossal caverns mod
The fact that Flooded Stump only plays in one specific sublevel of one of the last caves in the game is something dowright criminal
Flooded stump is the theme that would have played in the aquarium caves if they were also in 2, change my mind.
Especially for the freshwater version (the one in mud pit for example)
Pikmin 2 cave music is another reason to love the caves.
The best music is Bulblax Kingdom and Shower Room always hum them when playing
Submerged Castle is also great at setting the mood knowing something’s coming even if you don’t know what and you need to hurry
I don’t know if this is an actual feature but when playing Pikmin 4 for the first time the music seemed to increase as time went on being inaudible at first but as you explore and realise the area is the same as The Submerged Castle the music becomes more noticeable, I had a fan blaring while played for the first time so couldn’t tell initially but I noticed and it clicked this was Submerged Castle just before the WaterWraith showed up
Most of the cave music I like to listen to when I'm extremely bored.
jellyfloat pool will always be my favorite. i think my favorite pikmin song overall is perplexing pool, but man do i love jellyfloat pool.
once again a peak video thumbnail
Graphite Gulch will forever be my favourite alongside Jellyfloat Pool
Btw the cave songs are actually put into sections and just like the layout of caves is also procedurally generated
Pikmin 2 polygons ranking next?
P.D: I think the giant breadbug's theme was upgraded in Pikmin 4, yes, i said it, fight me.
I dont get why people don’t like pikmin 2. The challenge of the brutal caves combined with the usually calming music creates an amazing experience. And don’t get me started on the feeling you get when the rest floor music starts playing… the entire game is just so memorable
i think for me, i dont like pikmin 2 because i find it frustrating. like i always come out of playing it feeling slightly salty lol, whereas i feel much more chill playing like 1 and 4. the music is awesome in 2 though
0:25 GET OUT!! ‼️‼️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
I think something that the later Pikmin games forgot was the attention to detail when comes to sound design like almost every theme in Pikmin 2 has an Olimar and Louie variant depending on who’s in control and I like how it shows a bit of their personalities, Olimar’s themes are way more complete and melodic due to him being used to the Pikmin planet than he was in the first game while Louie’s are more off usually missing instruments or skipping notes, fitting Louie’s simple minded scatterbrained nature.
This doesn’t exist in Pikmin 3 and 4 alongside distinct whistle sounds for the captains you never notice these details until they’re gone.
I never noticed Pikmin 2 had dynamic music.
@@grafzeppelin4069 you serious ?
@@grafzeppelin4069 All the games do, but 2 goes all in with the dynamic soundtrack
4's is ambitious in it's own way. I don't think it's nearly as strong as 2's, but I respect what they attempted with it.
3's probably lacks the alternate variants for the different captains because you swap between them so much more. Even if it's only slight changes, I think it would get pretty cluttered constantly swapping between them.
Also because the technology being used is different, and might not handle swapping tracks on the fly as elegantly.
@@nyon7209 Yea that’s kind of understandable in 3’s case, but at the very least they could’ve given the captains individual whistle noises.
Combat theme of fire hits hard. Yeah as a kid I never realized the floors were randomized even on replay….
And didnt understand why the music was so chaotic pick 2 and one are legendary with thier music mixing and 2 having more just was a good time.
And again why a pikmin rouglight dungeon crawler would be amazing…. Endless Subterranean Hocatotation scramble
Nice video fun listen especially. Your right those Brawl messages for the demo being up made me jump. Bonus points coming out of an old av tv speaker all loud and muffled.
Now you need to rank the Louie song variants.
Mystic Marsh sounds a lot like Greenpath…
Next up every pikmin 4 enemy music track ranked 😎
Other than that great video I didn't even know the names to these songs or honestly remember them 😅
So, if the Nintendo Music App adds Pikmin 2 to it's OST selection, i guess we'll finally have canon names for the cave themes, that is if they don't take 20 years to add it to the app and also add the cave themes in the first place....
Mystic Marsh is literally my phones ringtone so completely correct and based placement
i remember back in like, 2005-6 before youtube was huge i would literally go leave my GameCube turned on while in the sublevel that played mystic marsh, based placement for sure
Love your content, your delivery is just so perfect. I also love your voice/accent, really nice
I love the grass music for some reason! I also have a video suggestion; perhaps ranking the Pikmin 2 challenge mode missions by how hard they are to purple-flower complete? As a kid I remember thinking some of those were impossible to beat without losing Pikmin 😅
Planning to cover that at some point. I remember the Purple Flower grind was exhaustingly hard the first time playing it
Happy to hear someone else complain about the Arboreal Frippery. Cheers!
Definitely My Favorite music is the Toy Houses and Flooded Stump
Also thank you for telling me they had names because I would have never payed attention to it if it was shown right at my screen
Seriously I can go to a playlist and never remember any cave name (probably still won’t)
Can't believe you've done Graphite Gulch like this.
Rating for Pikmin 4 Overworld Music where every enemy encounter gives a unique instruments and sounds to the theme maybe with combinations even?
i feel like a lot of the reused main melodies feel sort of barren because they have to have space for the variation tracks without it sounding cluttered.
A lot of the pikmin 2 cave music isn't stuff I would actively search for and listen to, but I think it's enjoyable in game.
I loved getting to play 1 & 2 for the first time on switch
i never realized there were missing instruments & and that's quite dissapointong. I hope there's a path.
& you should've put on the Louie versions too. They get pretty funky
I'm quite partial to those fart instruments, but I think this ranking is quite fair. Good video.
Even the 3rd worst one on this list is a banger
To be fair, a lot of them are basically ambience but I think I know what’s gonna be on top and what’s gonna be bottom
Putting that one at 24 is insane, shit is much better than like half the songs
Hairy Bulborb reminds me of my father. (Good video btw)
I love all of these songs so much.
Emergence Cave 2 is gorgeous. A lot of these tracks come across as old Aphex Twin or Squarepusher tracks. I would kill for an officially mixed album of the Pikmin 2 ost from the composer. Because I think only so much of the beauty comes out in listening to the stems and only through the chaos of live gameplay does it sound right. To me at least.
I think my favorite detail in a soundtrack I've ever discovered is that once when I lost like 50 Pikmin on one floor the instrumentation started getting messed up and off tempo. Literally the game removed some instruments and beats from the song to represent the catastrophic loss of Pikmin I experienced.
I don't think I've ever heard a video game soundtrack embrace its interactive medium like Pikmin 2 has. It seriously needs to be studied because I want this experience in more games.
Babe wake up the best piktuber just posted
Best Pikmin 2 song? Perplexing pool enemy version is right there bro
peakmin 2
don't tell the surfshark guy that
Not exactly peak, it's a lot less good then the other 3 Pikmin games
I agree with all of this with the exception of graphite gulch. I think it deserved much better
fart instruments 😭😭😭 that is a tuba
I have every variant of all these songs on my driving playlist and I can always tell when I'm listening to Pikmin 2 cave music when they pop up. Still unsure if that's a good thing
railroad room theme on top
The fact that these didnt come back in pikmin 4 is what keeps that game from being a 10/10 for me
The moment I saw this ranking video in my recommended, I immediately knew Mystic Marsh would have to be No.1
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Soil 2 is my favorite for all of its variations.
I think metal 3 is substantially better in Louie's version. Specifically the working and treasure themes which has a sort of metalworks vibe to it that really fits the industrial metal levels you are in. Theres just something satisfying about the rythmic sounds that makes it feel like the pikmin themselves are the workers with an almost assembly line organization, the beats like a constant march towards progress.
I don't know what it is that makes Louie sound better than Olimars version (and i typically dont like the Louie versions.) Perhaps its the added (or rather removal of) notes and sounds that gives it a more rythmic and wacky feeling too it, More alive and somewhat chaotic and random in how the notes are played, yet theres an unusual sense of order in all that chaos. When playing mods i would often have cave holes covered so i can leave 1 pikmin working so i could hear the music play as i completed the level.
i know nothing of music but I probably dont even make any sense.
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Soil 2 is my favorite by a lot, it has just enough instruments to feel like a real song rather than ambience.