US universities losing hundreds of billions as top Chinese scientists and researchers go home
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- Опубліковано 16 лис 2024
- Research and Development (R&D) is a major profit center for the top universities in the United States. Besides the nearly $100 billion they earn in grants from the US government and private sources, university-based researchers create patents and inventions that generate many more billions annually.
China is the largest foreign source of scientists and researchers, and they are concentrated in the hard sciences and in engineering, where over 95% of R&D spending takes place. But since 2018, Chinese scientists are increasingly deciding to return to China to set up new research departments. Of those who are still in the US, over 60% admit they are strongly considering moving, and over half now refuse to work on projects that involve funding by US government sources.
To American universities, the loss of these scientists, along with future contributions to scientific research and commercial applications and market value, are incalculable. But losses probably already exceed a trillion dollars, given the departures of so many top scientists in Artificial Intelligence, Big Data, medicine, biochemistry, materials science, nanotechnology, and quantum computing.
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Caught in the crossfire: Fears of Chinese-American scientists
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Scientists of Chinese descent leaving the US at an accelerating pace
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Reverse Brain Drain? Exploring Trends among Chinese Scientists in the U.S.
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R&D Expenditures at U.S. Universities Increased by $8 Billion in FY 2022
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South China Morning Post, Nanotech pioneer Wang Zhonglin leaves US to work in China ‘full time’
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Closing scene, Suzhou, Jiangsu
There is no point in contributing to a country that despises you.
And There is no point in contributing to a country that discriminates and treats the contributors like 2nd class citizens and criminals.
Chinese Exclusive Act in 19th century is the best example where thousands of Chinese labourers risked their lives to build the US continental railway that spurred the economy of u s a to this day.
It’s just that Chinese people are just too naive to ignore the history of Chinese Exclusive Act and too naive to believe in the armouriken dream prop agenda.
@@haniahannslew4108 2nd class? it's 6th class at the bottom of the society
Chinese people often say “if one ignores history, he/she is going to repeat the same kind or similar history”. And yes we are seeing Chinese people who dream and love armuryken baloney (means phoney, not real) dream are getting the Chinese Exclusion Act history repeating on themselves. Too naive.
@@petervan7372 Yes. Chinese people often say “if one ignores history, he/she is going to repeat the same kind or similar history”. And yes we are seeing Chinese people who dream and love armuryken baloney (means phoney, not real) dream are getting the Chinese Exclusion Act history repeating on themselves. Too naive.
This guy alone,do much more than mainstream media do,combined. So glad i found his channel.
It's not because the mainstream can't do it
But because they're told not to
Indeed
Yep
When the mainstream media are all propaganda now, even independent journalists have a really good opportunity of developing their own career.
No one will listen to him in the US Government
They will listen to a guy like Gordon Chang
Nothing to worry about China is about to crash
You know that problem. American politicinas are too stupid to understand this.
Don't think they are stupid. Containing China at all costs is the main game.
Don't forget that its the US citizens that elect these so-called politicians and also enable them.
Didn't they demo to the entire world their stupidity during theTikTok hearing ?
You can't expect oxymoron to think this far ahead.
They understand it well. They just pretend they don’t so it gives them more leverage in politics.
Excellent report but you neglected to say why Chinese scientists & engineers are fearful! US agencies are arresting them & charging them without evidence so many had their careers destroyed & families harmed even after all charges were dropped!
That is the China Initiative witch hunt created by Donald Racist Trump.
Of course he won’t say that about his Dad.
UA-cam will delete him if he elaborates. So many of my comments have been deleted.
US agents need to meet the order targets from the Congress. So they have to find these scape goats. The down of America.
he did at the 6:55 mark - push factors
Kudos to the talented Chinese and Chinese-American researchers returning to China, where they are welcome with open arms, where they can make their contributions to a nation seeking to advance and improve the entire global village. In contrast, staying in the US would only contribute towards the hegemonic domination of a selfish empire.
The choice is obvious.
There's no need to come to the west where cash strapped universities offer low grade courses. Chinese students especially are not given proper access to cutting edge work. Some undergrads are deliberately taught flawed material to mislead them.
@@barrywong4327 but why don’t we in the US have competitive scientist and talent here
@@Shineynsparkles Sinophobia, Xenophobia work against Chinese in the US. Soon, we'll see the same of Indians and other foreign talent in the US.
@@Shineynsparkles When you are in comfortably mode, you enjoy paying other people to do tedious job.
@@Shineynsparkles They are all in financial engineering and CEOs of listed companies who can earn BIG bucks.
Accused of being a spy and being homeless in your retirement and being in prison for 20 years. That's your reward from the American Government.
Much better than allowing them to own that technology.
@@surfspark and that's why they're going back to China
American government is run mostly by lawyers, that's the reason.
@@surfsparkOK then!
well he got a point, of course when they ask for Chinese help heheh
Ive been saying this for years. American tech is due to talented chinese scientists and engineers. They have revolutionized the tech industry.
Americans have a great plan to filter out Chinese. They are replacing the Chinese supply chain (all aspects of life) with India. America is going to replace Chinese scientists and engineers with Indians. America has already staffed its CEOs and top government officials with Indians.
No more for the US😂
the unsung heroes of uS tech advancement . If their skin was white, they would be household name , media celebrities.
Most tech ideas were created by talented Chinese scientists and engineers in America. But the u s a keeps accusing the country that gives the u s a thousands of world class scientists and prodigies as stealing IP. That is pure racism.
@@nanyanguo1 Like Elon "The Con" Musk or Steve "Master Theif" Jobs ??
So glad they are returning home. It was distressing reading about them being hounded, harassed and rubbed off.
Even if they are not harassed, it's morally wrong to contribute to the scientific and technological development of a country that's capable of the most unimaginable feats of cruelty
@@yaoliang1580 So true. The US talks about peace the most while at the same times is the world's biggest warmonger in history.
The first chief engineer of Boeing (1916) was a Beijing born Chinese, MIT graduate called Wong Tsu.
The co-founder of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory was also a Chinese called Qian Xuesen. And many more.
i reckon many are also waiting for Nov5 results and wud be flying out from a nation gone auto-immune.
chinese ev industry was first proposed by qian xuesen in 1992.
Ia it for real?
True indeed.
Dont forget: Pauline Hwang, Allen Chen and Leroy Chiao.
Probably doesn't help when the US constantly talks about war with China.
Which creates a hostile local environment for them. Their neighbours become hostile. Why stay? All perfectly logical to leave.
All looked upon as spies, proof is irrelevant, physical appearance is everything.
@@kenw.4539Finally the true colors revealed.
If there was ever a hot war with China, you can GUARANTEE
the USA will IMPRISON ALL CHINESE even if you are BORN IN THE USA!!
The USA did this to Japanese-American citizens (again, BORN IN THE USA) into concentration camps from 1941-1947.
A very famous Japanese-American BORN IN THE USA who was imprisoned is George Takei who played Sulu in "Star Trek"
The USA WILL imprison ALL CHINESE no matter who u are. Trust me.
Chinese people often say “if one ignores history, he/she is going to repeat the same kind or similar history”. And yes we are seeing Chinese people who dream and love armuryken baloney (means phoney, not real) dream are getting the Chinese Exclusion Act history repeating on themselves.
Necessity is the mother of invention. The message is clear: Chinese scientists should go where they are celebrated instead of not tolerated. To the compatriots who love their motherland: Welcome home !!! To those of Chinese descent: Welcome to the land of your ancestors !!!
All thanks to the self-defeating policies and actions of Trump and Biden.
I applaud you… most Americans with either blame the Democrats or Republicans
When it is all Americans share the blame
Bush II was distracted by wars, but Obama started "pivot to Asia" and TPP to exclude China. The only difference between Obama and Trump/Biden is that Obama speaks well and looks better on TV.
@@FallenLeavesReturnToRoots Democrats historically have always been anti Globalization
Trump just changed the narrative on the Republicans
That’s why Biden didn’t change much with China when he came into office
O'BomBa was the emptiest suit who ever suited.
@@paulheydarian1281 none of these guys were/are going to change a thing
Most talk like we will get China to do this or that
None talk like we need to stop doing this or that
Or fix this or that
Like Walz
Someone like Kevin would be looked as a traitor rather than a China Hawk asset for an administration
This might be very good news. Whatever innovations these Chinese Scientists come up with could result in affordable and accessible Products and Services from China. Not overpriced products and Services from the USA. 😊
Then u s. Block them or charge high tax on those products. 😂
5:45 China is the largest supplier of US scientists. Now they are leaving for China
Trump & Biden effect
endia is the largest supplier of US CEO..cause they're so good at foot licking and talking..
@@cashmerecat9269now a lot of are getting fired for their incompetence.
@@cashmerecat9269
Bribery is a common Endian practice.
"Scientists" 😂 😂 😂
US universities are businesses, not places of learning.
LOL the entirety of U$A is a corporation, U$ govt is a place of business, just much bigger business and Biden gets 10% every single transaction.
I wonder what these institutions have to do with Plato's Academy. ""Let no one who is ignorant of geometry enter here," was posted by the Academy entrance, Strike out "geometry" and replace it with "$$$", and you have the guiding principle behind US universities.
Same here in Canada
No true. Many US universities have excellent faculty and students. But the Gov and the university administrators are Selfish, Racist, Stupid.
Aside from the top researchers and PhDs, even American born Chinese kids like me want out. My parents came here from China for business. I was born and raised here. I did my BS/MS at Stanford in Electrical Engineering and now work at a top tech company.
Even though I grew up here and have my friends and community here, I still feel unwelcome and feel hostility towards me. I used to encounter racism maybe once or twice a year growing up... but in the past 5-10 years? It's once a month.
I visit China every summer break growing up. Lately, I've been considering just staying there one of these trips. I have actually been looking at apartments in Guangzhou. We'll see what happens.
A relative of mine told me that UC Berkeley didn't take any male ethnic Chinese student in ComputerScience. Females still had a chance. This was a few years ago. Ethnic Chinese are being squeezed in many ways. If you can speak (read and write? 😊) Chinese, you should definitely explore opportunities in China.
Hi Buddy 🙋🏻♂️
Are you a US Citizen ?
Don't go back there
Just stay in China
or you can come to my Country, Indonesia🇮🇩
We need more people like you
I wish you find your way. I don't think Ethnic Chinese in US or Canada will have bright future. In next 5~10 years the hostile will grow until the average Americans realize US has permanently lost its power to contain China but this change takes time. At the mean time, I don't like the political and social environment here which put everything like gender and equality at extreme. As Ethnic Chinese, your kids will be discriminated simply because their origin. Like the other commenter said, I also noticed the Chinese admission rate from top California high schools plummeted astonishingly in UC system after the pandemic. For my age, I just makes money and support my kids for their college. But if I were them, it's not my favorite place to bring up my kids. Maybe Kongkong / ShenZhen area is better place for next generation?
@@arunanarina1316 very smart 😃. That will be good for your country. Singapore is also "collecting" educated Chinese left and right. A friend of mine moved there with a PhD from Cornell.
@@FallenLeavesReturnToRoots
Singapore is a small Country
You can't buy a House in Singapore even if you have a lot of Money
In Indonesia, you can buy a Big House with 7-8 Bedrooms for only US$800K
And don't forget the Food 😃👍
A wise man won't stand beside a collapsing wall. Why wouldn't one flee from this barbaric Uncle Sam Empire?
Uncle Scam can always manage to win over many abroad to live the "American Dream" of delusions.
If the US is a collapsing wall it's because they outsourced it's construction to the Chinese
😂 😂 😂
How wise do you have to be to leave?
@@AK-tx1vg American Dream ?
Majority of the world no longer believe American Dream and trust USA.
@@JPs-q1oPrinting money to pay for the wall? 35 trillion in government debt?
Along with that University, the town also losing billions of income from food industry, home rental industry, car sales & tourism.
All the more reason to have never let foreigners take over in the first place. Should have pushed to keep things to citizens.
Not to mention crime industry for Chinese are easy target 🤧
The belligerent US politicians have been taking a lot of unambiguous economic benefits for granted
Don't worry, South American migrants will fill that void left by the Chinese...lol
@@moralambush, that objective is to get "voters" to swing the election. 😂😂 Another level of corruptions.
Only getting 35% of royalties for something you invented... people think Apple and Google taking 30% is crazy but these schools are getting 65%. That's approaching music industry level exploitation.
That's not the point, being accused of a spy and losing all your money and being in prison. That's your reward from the U.S. Government and CIA
American/Western capitalistic practices are exploitative and vampiric by nature, go figure lol.
Ofcourse it was made jewish lawyers
@WT83: The music industry has always had a racialized plantation system in which stealing from black artists is an acceptable norm..Actually, in comparison to that, these foreign white collar workers are doing relatively well in the US system. All corporations in the US claim 100% ownership of whatever their employees create.
Most of the time employees/workers, especially blue collar ones, get NOTHING for their ideas or creations.
People conveniently ignore US history and its origins as a slave state which also entrenched sharecropping and peonage labor within an existing racial hierarchy.
In the modern US corporations are people and money is speech and that is that is okay with most people. Meanwhile merely saying black lives matter stirs controversy in a society which had refused to do justice to its black population in any meaningful way in spite of centuries of of well-documented systemic and intentional deprivation and disenfranchisement.
That is the genius of Western corporate rent seeking industries, the elites have always exploited the peasants but somehow managed to convince them, it is the best system for them, so called "trickle down economic model" LMAO!
It has worked for centuries.
I also heard about some west asia scientist not getting good position based on his nationality. Then he finally fly back home and Huawei contact him and bring him to China. He was one of the best 5G patent researcher Huawei got because of sam unfair treatment to him.
Thank you, Kevin, for your insights!
Chinese exclusion laws are a threat to all Chinese, Singaporean Chinese or American Chinese, not just Mainland Chinese.
True. As the senators can’t tell the difference, or won’t make that distinction
I think that apply to anyone who looked asian, after all they can't tell the difference.
Yup. We all saw how aggressive Tom Cotton was towards the Tiktok CEO who is a Singaporean.
@@Jellybean-gz4cjBut those anti-China Hong Kongers (BNOers) and Taiwanese thought they are more superior in the eyes of the White world, and they thought as long as they don’t call themselves as Chinese, they will be excluded from discrimination or racism attacks. By the way, don’t be such an idiot, those attackers won’t check your identity or nationality before they pushed you into subway’s tracks or throw a punch at you. As long as your skin color is linked to “Yellow”, you will be their target. This includes Japanese, Korean, and SE Asians.
Exactly, because they can't tell the difference between most Asians
Congratulations! Dumb Trump & Biden!
Well done, indeed!
U do know this has been going on for decades not just under trump and biden lol people are insane
Thanks to US for helping China to train talents most needed to advance development in science,medicine,IT and engineering in their motherland.This is one of the positive spin offs from the trade war,tariffs and sanctions of the incompetent US govts.
Who in the right mind would want to work in the US universities whether Chinese or otherwise? You can be made a target anytime!
Unless you're a loyal member of the Oligarchy.
the chinese being the target is not new . Happened decades ago . Eg Wong So the lst chief engineer of Boeing who designed n built boeing lst airplane a century ago. Qian Xuesen who developed Nasa jpl rocket more than 60 yrs ago. Both returned to motherland in the end.
One word: To live the American Dream of delusions making earning shekels.
When you live in China as a citizen, you enjoy security, respect, ride the best EVs in the world, use the best mobile phones, have one of the best public transportation, are in the fastest growing region of the world, all at a lower cost. Why go anywhere else?
Americans still love living in USA. Still safe, rich and a world leader. 😂🇺🇸
It's just that US have a continent stolen from natives. Their houses are built in big plot of land which is impossible in densely populated countries
World leader in what? Corruption, or starting and funding wars all over the planet?
How's the economy? With so many Chinese is there enough jobs in China?
US and Westerner will say that China is a country that has "Lack of Freedom" life style
Most if not all of Chinese scholars knew who Qian Xuexian ( the father of Chinese rocketry) was and how he was treated by the US. 😢😢😢
He is Qian Xuesen. All Chinese know his story. There are many many more to be wrongly accused of some BS reasons. To name a few, Xiaoxing Xi, Xiafeng Sherry Chen, Qing Wang. There is a 'China initiative' program by DOJ specifically profiling Chinese ethnic scholars, including who have already become US citizens.
Of course, anyone educated will know who he is
I think you meant Qian Xuesen
@@a2140416 Right, got his name wrong; 钱学森博士，中国火箭之父。
@@a2140416His actual name is written in traditional Chinese and can be translated into romantization system
Not only the national policies, Western politicians spare no effort to incite hatred towards Chinese. Can't blame them for panicking.
Propaganda is a key component of U.S. economics, war, social control. They are prepping the U.S. population to hate the next "enemy".
Guess why Japanese Americans were placed in Internment Camps during WWII. All rounded up. 😢
Guess why US then accused China of Uyghur's genocide, and reeducation prison camps. Can you connect the dots to Japanese Americans?
The Western Media is pretty great at churning out anti-China propaganda. In Australia, you see anti China news and investigations all the time. One would think Chinese are the most evil, brutal and menacing living thing on earth. 😂
Well, I guess it is indeed time for China and Asia to reap the benefits of their people :)
Those companies are also losing a bunch of half-assery, team subterfuge, and state-backed competitor espionage...so we can call it a wash if you're unwilling or unable to call it a "W" for those companies.
China can reap all these "benefits" all day long as far as I'm concerned.
The Writing was on "The Wall " in 2022 when scientific Papers Published by Reputable Institutions slowly became dominated by Chinese Universities. Already 80% of Critical Areas of Scientific Research for the FUTURE came from Chinese Universities (2024). And who are the Professors, Scientist, etc who Wrote These Papers /Research ...??? Many are those who RETURN to China after .... " US China initiative in 2021/22 " . What surprised me was that those Universities/Companies ( Google/Intel/etc ) ... KEPT QUITE about it. !!!!! Even thought they KNEW the Consequences. Or did the Media "Kept it Hush Up"???
They all have Indian CEOs. Chinese left, indians move in. Why say anything.
I'm glad those people get proper respect and freedom in their home county.
Grad students do most of the grunt work in research. There is going to be a severe lack of grad student in science and engineering too.
of course the DEI and "right to abortion at 36 weeks" pool, nor the pet eating aliens aren't gonna fill the space. what IS america doing?
US thought that Indian scientists / researchers could replace Chinese ones.😅
The Indian employees in Boeing and Intel have increased rapidly in the last five years.
@@amandagrant4331 the two went down the toilet at the same time
@@amandagrant4331
At microsoft too
@@potter8059 My thought exactly. Boeing has been going down the toilet in the last five years.
@@potter8059 habit to blame other race and not reflective of your self is big reason chines left and i hope indian realise this too soon enough
Wow! Finally I think I won the jackpot, first to watch your new video 🎉. Love your videos many thanks. Moving to China soon.
Glad to hear this good news..
Thanks for MAKING CHINA GREAT AGAIN
China was once great? When?
@@JPs-q1o From 3000 BC until their hundred years of humilation.
@@JPs-q1o Obviously barbarians like you dunno nothing
@@JPs-q1o this question is stunningly ignorant!
@@JPs-q1o Suggest that you go to school and educate yourself....stop humiliating and shaming your poor mom and dad for having born an idxxxx
Even if these top scientists n engineers are not harassed, it's morally wrong for them to contribute to the scientific development of a country that's capable of the most unimaginable feats of cruelty n pose the greatest threat to mankind
Well said !!!!
6:45 "push factors" can mean ostracization, end of career, prosecution, persecution, even end of life, per news articles.
yes most recent death was a female neuroscientist They seized her research lab which she worked so hard to set up. She was said to have successfully researched on the cure for a neurological disease
If I’m not mistaken, the nano scientist has also received a Nobel award and is considered to be the father of modern nanotechnology.
He is no. 1 in the nano engine field, second to none.
We barely know it in the US because he isn't white and English is not his first language so the US media pretends he doesn't exist.
He's in 🇨🇳 now😅
@@Zakaius as he ought to be . Should serve motherland n not some ungrateful country which would use his technology aga his motherland.
You'd be surprised how many 漢奸 there are , living in the west to work against China.
I don't see this as a crisis. I see this as the world is healing.
Not a big loss If you are a US Politician with a 4-year term, short sighted AS they all are...
Yes, but once they get in ... very hard to get rid of them ... hence the gerontocracy. 🤣 U.S. Congress works for the MIC, AIPAC and Wall Street.
Average Americans are pretty much on their own. That's why they suffer from unaffordable medicine, education, and rent, etc.
@@randygraham926,correct. 😂 Fake freedom to trap the poor, the indoctrinated and the zombies.
And, the typical Americans argued US has democracy and freedom. They can criticize the govt and NOT go to jail (not realizing they are in "prison" without walls) but ignored.
@@randygraham926 lol. they're gonna be suffering even more now from 1. additional burden of millions of aliens, 2. pet eating, 3. $35T + interest being eaten by fed coz Japan to china dumping US treasury stocks like hot potatoes. suddenly, no one believes america is a good investment anymore.
A relative of mine is doing his PhD in computer algorithms at one of the top universities (for his safety, I will not name the school ). He said he isn't going to China for a visit before he has received his degree because many Chinese students were refused to reenter the US after they visited their families in China.
I read something about that. I don't think it's happened a lot ... YET ... but the fact that it's causing fear already is notable.
US terrorism
@randygraham926 multiple top scientists, including a department chairman at MIT, were accused of spying for China and then released later without a conviction. Their careers and finances were ruined. At least 2 of them have committed suicide.
Another relative of mine graduated with a PhD in satellite communications. All the students from his advisor were recruited by NASA, but he ended up working for Apple, doing technical support. Last year, he left Apple and moved his whole family back to China. His wife is a data scientist.
@Stefano-o5f No. The USSR was smarter in the 1940s-1970s.
The USSR did not want to scare off future scientsts. The USA does not care thanks to the politicians.
@Stefano-o5f - acts like we were *told* the Soviet Union acted.
I am now neutral of all previously held negative beliefs about the USSR, North Korea, China, and Iran. Because the same liars who told me to hate and fear those countries & their people are still running the US propaganda machine.
Our senators such as Rubio, Cotton, Cruz and others couldn't careless for the country.
How many Americans were denied those jobs? YOU couldn't care any less for the country when you let foreigners flood and take over our economy.
They get paid by the MIC and AIPAC -- that's who they work for. Not American citizens. Hence, their belligerence and desire to get the U.S. into endless wars. Xenophobia is part of the package.
They're a far right ex tree miss
The same level with the german 1930 with small mustache.
You can add the warmongers from BOTH parties too. Trump (esp) and don't forget Biden.
They are just a bunch of pathetic self-serving US lawmakers that will definitely make America "great" again.
Wants the milk but not the cow......
Want the meat also 🤔
Yeah, make sure you don't milk a male cow.
And ends up with cow sheet instead
@@botakkawasiki8775It'll be safer to milk a female bull. 😂😂😂😂
@@botakkawasiki8775 So american
Thank you Kevin for sharing these awesome stories about China and its people. Very glad they are bringing their talents home where they will actually do good for humanity. Blessings.
devastating, seismic shifts occurring right now, law of unintended consequence.....
The way I see it: A restaurant boss makes the working environment hostile for the chefs, other restaurants are recruiting these chefs…
And then the boss doubles down.
The US were lucky to have had them for so long. Who can blame them for leaving now? The push factor from the US is the bigger factor putting them on planes to Beijing and elsewhere in China.
Very interesting content. Thank you for sharing!
As a recent immigrant to Canada and a student in the University of Toronto myself, I can't help but notice that the West isn't doing enough to nurture and reward its top talent - especially immigrants from non-western countries. There's definitely a sense of stagnation and not feeling valued enough.
the slave master mentality have to be transcended and replaced with the principles of Maat from the African Spirituality
that they attempted to destroy. Its a spiritual issue and the people must once again be raised up.
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Ra Un Nefer Amen -The science of man
Sankofa Kweli
We are not talking about rewards in this case. Chinese scientists are persecuted in the US. That's why they are leaving.
@@FallenLeavesReturnToRoots Whats the real Chinese scientists are being persecuted in the US? Is it the jealousy of their "right hemisphere of the brain" culture that sees them more able to come up with breakthrough creations?
When the Europeans came into contact with African Spirituality they tried to destroy it and so why would they accept and bow to "Eastern Philosophy" which is at the heart of the Chinese way of doing things?
Lets really reason together as instructed
@@FallenLeavesReturnToRoots certainly, that's in the "not feeling valued" bit
Excellent report as usual Kevin. Thank you for bringing the facts!
UAS really fucked itself real deep this time
The USA does not care. Trust me.
They are very short sighted.
USA can't even "Woke" up in time to right itself.
Since I have 2 young kids I am very happy to have found this channel. We left the US for Europe, in our kids school ( british international one )there are students from all over the world, and I am so happy that all these children one day will get into a high education system that gives damn about their potential even if that is China or any other Asian country !
US is only bombing the planet ..............
Leaving the US for a country that's among the biggest US puppet. What a laughing stock
Wouldn’t get too comfortable in Europe. The US is busy sucking up all of Europe’s investment capital which means that Europe will only be a buyer rather than a seller of future industrial revolutions. Over the next couple of generations it’ll increasingly become a sleepy tourism based economy 😢. Future advances will come from China or the US.
@@Stephen-wc8fn you are totally right, but no one said it it our end of the road !
@@cristinakasselas555 You know, it still baffles me how Europe has fallen so deep into a mess designed by the US for its own benefit. When I was growing up in the 90s and early 2000s the Europeans used to have a backbone! Now it's as if the entirety of their public consciousness has been poisoned from across the Atlantic, and half the continent are American puppets and vassal states ...
I LOVE your accurate, in depth, and precise, commentaries, Kevin.
Blessings from Australia.
Highly analytical and thought-provoking report, as always.
A century ago, the USA was considered a land of opportunity. You could have a crazy idea, set up shop, and sell gizmos. Let the market decide whether your stuff is good or not. Now, China has taken that crown. Too much interference from federal busybodies ruined the dream. In China, you will never be the next Tencent or AliBaba, but that's not the point. There are entire frontiers opening up, and China will pounce on these opportunities.
That's true, but not the point. The point is the USA will TAKE all your work,money, career, fame and family because
you are just chinese now. Its real bad. The FBI JAILED MANY Chinese scientists in the USA
for NO REASON. After these Chinese scientists spent $100,000-$300,000 to DEFEND
themselves, the FBI dropped ALL the cases. Now these CHINESE scientist have NO MONEY and NO JOB!!
@sfkuda512: A century ago jim crow was the endemic law of the land imposed by the ELECTED leadership of ALL political parties, and many millions of people were forced into third world levels of poverty while others were not, and were allowed to prosper. America has NEVER been one thing to every one, and everyone does not have either a common American experience or immigrant experience.
China emulates that Germany of the 19th, early 20th century, when entire universities were established around top scientists (i.e. Liebig),
German was the scientific lingua franca...
Time to learn Chinese now...
My relatives in China don’t even want to set foot in USA. Racism, anti China hate crimes and hate speeches, mass shootings, crimes and murders especially targeting Chinese students such as the murder case of Zhang Ying Ying, etc. Not worth the trip and especially the extremely expensive tuition cost. American colleges are so expensive. Why pay more to suffer in USA? Stay in China to study STEM subjects and contribute to China instead. No need waste time in USA either to study or work. Too much hate against China in USA that even native born Chinese Americans don’t feel safe.
We should stop buying us stuff too. Too dangerous
The things is, most people who studies abroad are the one who couldn't get into BeiDa and Tsinghua for STEM education. They goes to the West for STEM education there, along with potential jobs and experiences.
Another well researched piece so well and concisely articulated for our easy consumption. Thanks Kevin.
us the promised land has become the cursed land!!!
As Chinese students’ interest in US institutions dampens, this ginormous source of income and scientists suddenly vanished overnight.
The same is happening in other English speaking countries. The UK and Australia, for geopolitical reasons, are taking fewer students from China and replacing them with students from India just to realize that many Indian students just go there to work.
The heavy-handedness and the ruthlessness of the "national security" laws in the land of the free will scare the hell out of all those people with extraordinary talents until they have daily nightmares and perpetual fear. To them, there is no good reason to make so much sacrifices for the US.
Not just Chinese researchers and scientists are leaving, many talented White Americans are going too. Why? In Shenzen, it takes as little as 2 weeks from the design phase to the actual production. China is that quick.
isn't one of the talented white scientist (and his family) from america just moved to China.
@@fannyalbi9040 Yes, his name is Charles M. Lieber
Charles M. Lieber (born 1959) is an American chemist, inventor, nanotechnologist, and writer. In 2011, Lieber was named the leading chemist in the world for the decade 2000-2010 by Thomson Reuters, based on the impact of his scientific publications. He is known for his contributions to the synthesis, assembly and characterization of nanoscale materials and nanodevices, the application of nanoelectronic devices in biology, and as a mentor to numerous leaders in nanoscience.
@@fannyalbi9040 Yeah, I heard about it. I am worried for him if he ever goes back to the US, will he get charged for working enemy of the state.
@@botakkawasiki8775, in other words, he is not free to choose? Another fake freedom in place?
@@HeresMyView LOL, Fox News in the US would say "They hate our freedom"
When I was in graduate school studying physics, during my first year we had 2 Americans, 1 Asian Indian, 1 Malaysian and 13 Chinese students. Most post docs were Chinese. Loosing all those Chinese students would be devastating.
Before 1980, there are not many Chinese students in US universities, and there seemed to be no problems in these univ. Why?
@@hengzhou4566 There were also no problems after the Chinese students arrived in the '80s until about 10 years ago when the anti-China sentiments ramped up during the past 3 administrations.
Nay, they will be replaced with researchers from other countries. No one is indispensable.
Informative...❤
Like 1930s Germany.
It is a new Chinese people exclusion act.
Not a good example, from 1933 when people where dying from starvation in the street to 1936 when the became the world superpower
@@pitzabryosh2825 My reply supporting you has deleted by UT.
@@rebonditude5832 It's actually an accurate example, Albert Einstein is the perfect example of that.
@@YouReadMyName Einstein was not Chinese 🤔🤗
物极必反，美国自食其果， 无需详细说明 !!!
Since 2016 huge research was done by Chinese.
Not only with universities.
They focused in every sector.
Hi Kevin, always a pleasure to see and listen to your very informative show. The US badly needs a lot more men of your calibre. Stay safe and keep it coming.
What strikes me most of this is the "pull and push" factors. What has frustrated so many in the U.S. is our inability to find people of like mind and intelligence to interact with. How many of us sit at home studying, reading, writing, reduced to ruminating with our own souls because there is simply no one we can share with. From science to literature, history, religion, the challenges and blessings of daily life, we're only able to connect online. Rare is the friendship that goes deeper now.
YOU have a problem....
@@rogerstarkey5390 Nah bruh. The USA has a problem.
So true.
thanks for your talk
This is also happening in the UK where the same paranoia, accusations of spying and intellectual theft are meted against Chinese students. In the past, when China was poor and not as developed as today, many Chinese went to the West to study and seek better prospects. This is no longer the case as China's science & technology has surpassed the West in many fields. China's living standards are as high or becoming even higher than many Western countries.
Kevin, a better way of looking at this is by looking at the traditional breakdown between basic and applied research. Basically, organizations like the US govt leave basic research to the Universities, then take that and operationalize it so to speak. This is where the national labs or corporations come in. So the big problem is that not only is basic research being done at Chinese universities, but applied research is integrated as well. So not only does integrated supply chains refer to physical products, but also to knowledge as well.
The “father of nano engine” just went back to China recently because of the reason.
Many Western patents and inventions came from the Chinese scientists who do research in U.S universities and research centers
10:18 Wang Zhonglin could be the $Trillion$ Man of China....
sadly xenophobia towards China is alive & well here in Australia too
We reap what we sow. Being unwelcoming has its results. Someday the lesson will be learned.
Even if they are not harassed, it's morally wrong contribute scientific n technological research to a country that's so over obsessed with world dominance that they are capable of the most unimaginable feats of cruelty
For at least 100 years 90% of the USA top scientist are born outside of the USA but from now on less of them will stay in the USA unless they are from LGBTQIA community, if they are then US is their promise land
You mean promiscuous land?
I would be leaving too cause if you are not being treated right and get the short end of stick among other races.
@BRICSSCO ..your name resembles your attitude 😅
But the Chinese immigrants took away from other races by allowing legacy privileged students use affirmative as a weapon but in reality the Foundational Black Americans who fought for all immigrants to come in this country was actually accurately at the bottom due to historical HBCU'S.
Or risk being imprisoned for LIFE for NO REASON. Yes. this has happened (or tried to) to CHINESE.
The FBI JAILED MANY Chinese scientists in the USA for NO REASON. These Chinese scientists spent $100,000-$500,000 to DEFEND
themselves, the FBI dropped ALL the cases. Now these CHINESE scientist have NO MONEY and NO JOB
after spending a lifetime earning both. Some have committed suicide and their families are OUT ON THE STREET HOMELESS.
@@Fun__Facts-d2y😂 dumbest comment ever😂
@@user-mhgu6om9mj2t fake account 🤣
Most informative reporting on core issues without flaws. Thank you sir
By the way..., paraphrasing a tweet by a Polish politician, Radek Sikorski:
“Thank you, USA.”
Before or after their own citizens are wondering why they can't find jobs?
Not paraphrasing - that is a verbatim quote!
As Joe Biden says, they are just "small countries".
That's what he said about India... 😂
He is senile.
😂😂😂😂
relative to USA and China, india is about 1/3 the size
But not the population @@the80386
THE REAL BRAINS ARE LEAVING !
Can't figure out why? maybe they sense the oncoming war and don't wish to be corralled up like WW2.
More likely, have their bank accounts frozen and assets stolen.
Asian hate. Neo-McCarthyism.
Yes, people do remember what happened to Japanese Americans during WW2.
@@FallenLeavesReturnToRootsonly the Japanese American, not the Italians and Germany American. They can only gather a small group as America is a big mix of race. This proxy and economic war against China is slowly showing you what will happen to Chinese American if a real war breaks out. You see how they treat the Arab American and take away their American constitution right for freedom to protest. even the supporting Caucasian and black American right were also put down because of their support. One can safely say, the ruling race in US only makes up 3% of US citizen. Kind of sucking to see. Democracy's stolen by money and political power
great reporting there young man....well done
Meanwhile, the politicians have yet to figure out what WiFi is😂😂😂
And a congressman brought a snowball to congress to prove to the world that climate change is not real ! It was better than standup comedy, so smart !
@@schoo2894«And a congressman brought a snowball to congress to prove to the world that climate change is not real ! It was better than standup comedy, so smart !»
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And could be you feel superior just because you attribute ignorance to him.
Though a snowball is not a valid argument, the fuzzy cognitive fog around "climate change" is even less valid argument when it comes to the de facto meaning of "climate change". He brought a snowball against pseudo-sci papers presented as a supposed truth coming out of the mouth of the not-better-defined "scientific community". Though the snowball is not a valid argument, those papers are just hot air. But it seems that polarized people, could be like you, are not able to see that the snowball was brought because it was made of same, evanescent, nature as those papers.
For a better world we should all think more and parrots less.
If a Chinese congressman brought a snowball, his fellow Chinese would have started asking themselves what was the meaning of his act.
Paraphrasing Kennedy, I would suggest you "Do not ask how much the man of the state thinks for you, but ask yourself how much you think about what he is doing (by saying) for you."
ps. "Climate change" acquired a meaning that was indirectly predicted by G. Orwell. Instead of just a change for whatever reasons, nowadays it means avoidable human-provoked climate disaster. We are losing the semantic of our language. Get a clue, instead of cheap spitting at others.
Americans don't realize that treating Chinese scientists unfairly isn't the same as treating Palestinians unfairly.
In the near future, when India climbs a little higher on the GDP ladder, we will add them to the bogie man list. We always need fresh blood, fresh enemies, to justify increasing DOD $ to feed our military industrial complex which in term will donate to re-elections, an American win-win formula for our politicians. Part 1 was Japan in the 90’s with the Plaza Accord, Part 2 is now with PRC, and Part 3 is coming up within a decade with India…
I have a feeling the US won't last that long…
Especially if war mongering democRATS have a say so.
Absolutely bang on!
And I don't think india will be getting to that position for at least another 5 decades if at all. Research requires high levels of discipline and intelligence does it not?
Will never happen
Studied at university of California Irvine UCI … aka University of Chinese Immigrants … 80% of the students are Chinese!
Thank you.
I've seen a recent interview of CATL ceo by Norway media. He mentioned the main reason of his company success and domination of battery industry, is through innovation of new products. He has hundreds of PHD's in his 20K+ research team who are all stem scientists.
With the influx of more scientists driven off by the US, China tech is only to further advance, in the expense of the US.
Nothing new. When I commented that most scientists, researchers and technical skilled Chinese left the US, Utube deleted the comment. 😅 Did you get a chance to watch how a US senator grilled a Singaporean Chinese CEO of TikTok during congressional inquiry?
America’s idiotic policies are undoing this country
Thanks for your warning calls. 😊
America is done.
I think this has been going on for a long time. Chinese who are experienced in US companies become much more valuable once they work in China.
When politicians are sponsored by those who just care about their own profit but not for the future of the country.
Regrettably, the fact that money comes and goes. The absence of money is not an obstacle. An obstacle is posed by a lack of an idea. If you want to feel rick, just count the thing you have that money can't buy
I've been saying this for years. Look at how American citizens of japanese decent were treated during WW2
Goes back and up the ante way further than that: Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882
The urgency to leave the ‘you ess’ cannot be understated.
Under the AUKUS deal anything and everything invented in Australia HAS to be handed over to the USA. Tells you everything you need to know about Australian politicians and public servants.
Very interesting and informative video once again, thank you.