For those that are asking the same question, the EFHW was better on all bands apart from 160M. And for those eagle eyed viewers you would of seen me switch the antenna from A / B. If anyone wants a comparison video I will gladly make one if asked nicely. Unlike how the @MrTaylor_UK commented!
@@TechMindsOfficial OK, I would like to ask Mr. Nicely to do a comparison video of the EFHW with the active loop HF antenna... but who is Mr. Nicely? My attempt as an American at British humor, or maybe just a bad dad joke, but either way, I'd love to see the video mate. :)
@@TechMindsOfficial A Scandinavian amateur commented sometime ago that he didn't finally evaluate an antenna until he had used it for several months so he could test it under varying conditions. As you correctly point out, HF reception hasn't been exactly brilliant recently. As to mounting it at least a quarter wavelength above ground when mounting horizontally, this might be a bit difficult for MW DXers. I hear that a suitable structure at Droitwich might become available next year. A comparison video or one after a longer-term evaluation would definitely be useful. Always enjoy your videos.
Matt, I ordered on after watching this the first time. Chris told me that your video generated six months of orders in two weeks! Once I got the loop, I've been testing it in my RF workbench room, hung from a bracket holding up some of my telescoping poles and excess PVC pipes. Even in this harsh environment, it's excellent. I've been a customer of Andy Iken at Wellsbrook for years. This loop by CCW appears to be the successor to that standard. I'll install it outside soon. Thanks for the video!
It's sad to see all the negative comments for what is a very informative video, it was as technical as it needed to be as a product introduction, one of which I have ordered as a result of seeing this. Even if other products perform better, for my circumstances this antenna is ideal to run on my SDR Play and I don't think the price is bad considering what it would cost to gather all the components together and those you'd waste buying several to get one.
Loop antennas and a radio with great Noise Blanker and DSP filter are what makes my SWLing hobby possible. This antenna really caught my attention for its portability, ruggedness and quality. I've already sent Cross Country Wireless and email. Thanks
Looks really unique and discreet looking unlike the much larger loops, probably ideal on a rotator when installed vertically. Would've liked if they had it go below 500khz but cant have it all. Thanks for sharing and would be interesting to compare this is a say Wellbrook, W6LVP etc.
Comments on here are the reason why people switch off from ham radio. The hobby is full of "know alls" slagging off other peoples achievements. Chris at CCW is a top bloke but unlike many, doesn't spend his time gobbing off about his knowledge - his products do that for him. CCW gear is spot on.
If you speak with Chris via his website I’m sure he’ll send you one to do some comparisons. Of course you will have to buy the antenna from him though, cheers.
Looks effective Mat. I’d like to see a comparison with a Wellbrook loop - I have an ALA 1530 - although sadly Wellbrook are closing down due to retirement. PS I’m still missing the old intro music
Old intro music is now at the end of the video, so you have to watch the video to get to the music haha. Yeh, I'm seeing lots of comments about doing a comparison with another antenna. Unfortunately I don't own every antenna and the only antenna I can compare it against is my EFHW, which I did, and of course the EFHW was better on all bands apart from 160M. However, those that are looking for an antenna like this wouldn't being doing so if they could fit large amounts of wire in the air :-) Cheers
Interesting to see this very low impedance approach with two loops most likely in parallel. It would have been so much better if you had switched back and forth between and electrical wire antenna and this magnetic one. Every single day I receive FT8 signals from all continents almost all the time, just on different bands and I am just using a magnetic loop in the attic of a very noisy multi family home. So I guess you refer to what you can hear on SSB and not what you can receive with in FT8 with e.g. an SDR and a raspberry pi WebSDR image. It could be a really good design and I'd be happy to see the antenna in relation to a traditional electrical antenna (e.g. longwire/beam/vertical). I am happy to hear you are often testing equipment unbiased and payed with your own money. 👍 Makes this channel much more interesting when you know its actually real and and honest representation of what you might experience.
@@JimMarshallUK no, unless you have no space for long wires, always transmit on electric field antennas, because they usually have a higher efficiency. But unless you are in the middle of nowhere, have no electrically noisy devices around you, a magnetic field antenna will always give you the clearest reception in real life.
Hi love the videos and thanks for posting this one as its opened the door for a new antenna for me. Would really love a comparison video against the mla 30 please a lot of people would like to step up if its a lower noise floor and can pull in the waek ones and i think seems the bands are a bit rubbish now it be fantastic to see the difference. But anyway keep up the good work love your channel in life you will always get idiots its just the way it is i presume you have got a hard skin towards them iver the years maybe he is annoyed about something in his personal life and is typing the rage out 😅 all in all thanks for keeping me educated appreciated
Thank you for the great review, would be nice to see so.e real time comparison between this and a known good antenna like a wire dipole or efhw and also your thoughts on performance compared to other low profile sw antennas like the X1-HF
Hi - always valuable videos you post. I have very limited garden size - currently testing a Youloop vs a about 15 meter wire I was able to drag across some trees at the end of the garden. The wire antenna performs a LOT better than the Youloop. How would the Active RX Loop compare to the Youloop ? any chance of noticeable better performance ?
The only advice I can give you is that if you can stretch out a piece of wire, high as possible, it will output any of these small loops. Unfortunately though I have not compared this antenna to any others, as of yet, but a lot of people have asked for this. So once I get the antenna installed on my mast I will make a comparison video. Cheers
Hey Pete, thanks for the offer. I believe I have the one I reviewed somewhere in my garage. I’ll have to dig it out and do a comparison video. Lots of people being mean to me because I didn’t compare it against anything else 😥
Suggested comparison would be A/B comparison showing the signal/noise ratio in real time on an SDR waterfall. Also, I wonder if it can be mounted vertical and rotated?
Thanks, I will include that in my next video on this product. I believe that when mounting vertically you do get some slight nulls from the sides, so a rotator might help. However I have not tested that yet but I plan too.
You really need to have a second antenna at the same height if you want to do that. But I agree it is quite difficult to know the performance. It is a bit like when you see top scores on Eham for antennas that are 1% effective due to size and basic design.
I have a HF discone, mounted on a 12 ft mast, on the house. It’s great for shortwave (including SSB and CW) FM, Airband and DAB, but awful on LW and MW. Even though it stated it covered 500khz to 30mhz.
There was times I switched to my EFHW, but the sample clips were recorded at different times, and therefore ANT B was not always the EFHW. 99.9999% of the clips are this antenna shown, apart from when I quickly switched.
As a Ham Radio operator i am very familiar with Magnetic Loop Antennas . For one of my hf receive antennas, i have a Magnetic receive Loop antenna made by Larry W6LVP . For one, comparing this antenna to a EFHW would only be reliveant if you understand the signal to noise ratio benefits of this antenna especially if mounted vertically and at 5 meter or more plus having it mounted on a router so you are able to rotate it and null out qrm . Thank you for the review, you've peek my interest . Check out W6LVP
Would be more interesting to see some of the technical solutions. And a test should compare it with another antenna, long wire or some other known reference.
160M was the only ham band where it appeared to receive better than my EFHW. But I would not really do a proper comparison with the antenna so low to the ground. It would of been unfair. However I do plan on installing this antenna up on my mast in the near future. At that point i could make a fair comparison against my EFHW at least. Thanks.
Maybe not sponsored, but there is little difference between sponsored and free product in exchange for review, so for transparency it would be good to know if the goods go back after the review, or are kept at no cost. 👍
It's irrelevant, the video would of been exactly the same in any manner in which I received the product. Just like * ALL* my videos, I show you everything that I am doing and then show the results. There is not one single video or product that I have shown on this channel where I have been offered something in return for a favourable review, that would go against my ethos for this channel. Thanks for the comment though.
@@TechMindsOfficial I never said you were offered something ONLY for a favourable review, nor that you were biased in any way.... but I disagree it's irrelevant. There is a HUGE difference between keeping (for free) a product you review and sending it back after the review. One has monetary gain, and the other doesn't. Transparency is everything, so as you are obviously unbiased, just be open as to whether it's a freebie or not so people know, instead of the ambiguous " not sponsored" vernacular. Shills are ruining so may genres on UA-cam, we need the established channels to lead by example.
You are not the first and won’t be the last to bring this up. I agree that there may be people out there who are literally bribed to say good things about products, just have to look on Amazon reviews for that, but I am really tired of explaining my point of view. It IS irrelevant for ME! Because as I said, if I got something for free, or I paid for it, would NOT change what any of my video shows. I always show true results. Either people believe this or they don’t, and if they don’t then don’t watch my videos, I don’t care, it’s their loss. I can’t be arsed with conversations like this anymore, it wastes my time.
@@TechMindsOfficial Fair enough, it is your channel and therefore your choice, though it is important to me. Thanks for the response, and I wish you well. 👍
Has anyone tried this antenna with an SDR such as SDRPlay, etc? Most of them are deaf unless one connects a substantial antenna. Would like to take my SDRPlay RSP2 with me on travels, with a small portable antenna. Best regards, Gary, K7EK
It wouldn’t of been a fair comparison with it being so low to the ground. However, it would appear others feel the same as you do, so once I have this antenna up on my mast, I will do another video showing a comparison between this and my EFHW. Not sure when that will be, but I’ll defo make one. Cheers
Of course it’s not meaningless! And a comparison is not needed. A comparison would be nice of cause, but this is marketed towards people that are not able to install large wire or yagi antennas. So why would someone need a comparison against those? It’s like saying if I reviewed a car to see how fast it goes I have to compare it to every other car. I think not.
I've seen So Many scams when tv antennas. Tell me how many miles will this tv antenna travel. I see many that say 100 miles plus and you might get that if you live at a place your showing this no trees open areas for many miles. How about in they country with trees everywhere. I haven't really found a tv antenna that works very well at all and the claims some make line 150 miles plus are pure complete lies and I'd be willing to bet money on that Big money to
When I pulled up this video in was looking for tv antennas and apparently this has NOTHING to do with or for a television or it's reception at least that's what I've been told. If so excuse my comments
Well of course it has! If someone has the space for a long wire, then they wouldnt buy an antenna like this. It’s designed for those that live in apartments, or extreme limited space. Can’t believe I have to explain this, it’s ridiculous!
How do you think it compares with your EFHW?
For those that are asking the same question, the EFHW was better on all bands apart from 160M. And for those eagle eyed viewers you would of seen me switch the antenna from A / B. If anyone wants a comparison video I will gladly make one if asked nicely. Unlike how the @MrTaylor_UK commented!
@@TechMindsOfficial Thanks, I would love to see a comparison video, and I also look forward to the video of stupid comments! 😂
@@TechMindsOfficial OK, I would like to ask Mr. Nicely to do a comparison video of the EFHW with the active loop HF antenna... but who is Mr. Nicely?
My attempt as an American at British humor, or maybe just a bad dad joke, but either way, I'd love to see the video mate. :)
@@TechMindsOfficial A Scandinavian amateur commented sometime ago that he didn't finally evaluate an antenna until he had used it for several months so he could test it under varying conditions. As you correctly point out, HF reception hasn't been exactly brilliant recently. As to mounting it at least a quarter wavelength above ground when mounting horizontally, this might be a bit difficult for MW DXers. I hear that a suitable structure at Droitwich might become available next year. A comparison video or one after a longer-term evaluation would definitely be useful. Always enjoy your videos.
@@TechMindsOfficial Actually, while on that subject. I would appreciate that very much.
73's Ed
Thanks!
Thank you! :-)
Matt, I ordered on after watching this the first time. Chris told me that your video generated six months of orders in two weeks! Once I got the loop, I've been testing it in my RF workbench room, hung from a bracket holding up some of my telescoping poles and excess PVC pipes. Even in this harsh environment, it's excellent. I've been a customer of Andy Iken at Wellsbrook for years. This loop by CCW appears to be the successor to that standard. I'll install it outside soon. Thanks for the video!
That's great news, I'm glad it worked well for you. Thanks!
Any news
It's sad to see all the negative comments for what is a very informative video, it was as technical as it needed to be as a product introduction, one of which I have ordered as a result of seeing this. Even if other products perform better, for my circumstances this antenna is ideal to run on my SDR Play and I don't think the price is bad considering what it would cost to gather all the components together and those you'd waste buying several to get one.
Exactly! Thank you for your comment, I appreciate it a lot! Matt
Ahoy! Maryland, US, North America. Thank you so much for posting this video.
Loop antennas and a radio with great Noise Blanker and DSP filter are what makes my SWLing hobby possible. This antenna really caught my attention for its portability, ruggedness and quality. I've already sent Cross Country Wireless and email. Thanks
Looks really unique and discreet looking unlike the much larger loops, probably ideal on a rotator when installed vertically. Would've liked if they had it go below 500khz but cant have it all. Thanks for sharing and would be interesting to compare this is a say Wellbrook, W6LVP etc.
Comments on here are the reason why people switch off from ham radio. The hobby is full of "know alls" slagging off other peoples achievements. Chris at CCW is a top bloke but unlike many, doesn't spend his time gobbing off about his knowledge - his products do that for him. CCW gear is spot on.
Well said! And 100% agree with you. Thanks.
Next antenna for me!!! Thank you for the review!!
Nice inforlative content as usual, keep up the good work 👍
Much appreciated!
I would like to see a direct comparison in real time between the loop antenna and a resonant half wave.
If you speak with Chris via his website I’m sure he’ll send you one to do some comparisons. Of course you will have to buy the antenna from him though, cheers.
Looks effective Mat. I’d like to see a comparison with a Wellbrook loop - I have an ALA 1530 - although sadly Wellbrook are closing down due to retirement. PS I’m still missing the old intro music
Old intro music is now at the end of the video, so you have to watch the video to get to the music haha. Yeh, I'm seeing lots of comments about doing a comparison with another antenna. Unfortunately I don't own every antenna and the only antenna I can compare it against is my EFHW, which I did, and of course the EFHW was better on all bands apart from 160M. However, those that are looking for an antenna like this wouldn't being doing so if they could fit large amounts of wire in the air :-) Cheers
Interesting to see this very low impedance approach with two loops most likely in parallel.
It would have been so much better if you had switched back and forth between and electrical wire antenna and this magnetic one. Every single day I receive FT8 signals from all continents almost all the time, just on different bands and I am just using a magnetic loop in the attic of a very noisy multi family home. So I guess you refer to what you can hear on SSB and not what you can receive with in FT8 with e.g. an SDR and a raspberry pi WebSDR image.
It could be a really good design and I'd be happy to see the antenna in relation to a traditional electrical antenna (e.g. longwire/beam/vertical).
I am happy to hear you are often testing equipment unbiased and payed with your own money. 👍
Makes this channel much more interesting when you know its actually real and and honest representation of what you might experience.
So are you saying it’s best to Transmit on this, bc it’s noisey? Then receive on something like a beverage antenna.
@@JimMarshallUK no, unless you have no space for long wires, always transmit on electric field antennas, because they usually have a higher efficiency. But unless you are in the middle of nowhere, have no electrically noisy devices around you, a magnetic field antenna will always give you the clearest reception in real life.
This looks brilliant. My current setup is deaf for the first 300km. This might pair up nicely
Does anyone have any insight into why the website does not list the price but instead asks to contact them for a quote?
Hi love the videos and thanks for posting this one as its opened the door for a new antenna for me. Would really love a comparison video against the mla 30 please a lot of people would like to step up if its a lower noise floor and can pull in the waek ones and i think seems the bands are a bit rubbish now it be fantastic to see the difference.
But anyway keep up the good work love your channel in life you will always get idiots its just the way it is i presume you have got a hard skin towards them iver the years maybe he is annoyed about something in his personal life and is typing the rage out 😅 all in all thanks for keeping me educated appreciated
You're welcome! I will get around to doing a comparison video once I get this antenna mounted up on the mast. Thanks for watching :-)
@8:16, I was quite surprised to hear a dutch sentence in there :D
All it's missing is an up-coverter so we don't have to use direct sampling on low end SDRs.
Thank you for the great review, would be nice to see so.e real time comparison between this and a known good antenna like a wire dipole or efhw and also your thoughts on performance compared to other low profile sw antennas like the X1-HF
Hi - always valuable videos you post. I have very limited garden size - currently testing a Youloop vs a about 15 meter wire I was able to drag across some trees at the end of the garden. The wire antenna performs a LOT better than the Youloop. How would the Active RX Loop compare to the Youloop ? any chance of noticeable better performance ?
The only advice I can give you is that if you can stretch out a piece of wire, high as possible, it will output any of these small loops. Unfortunately though I have not compared this antenna to any others, as of yet, but a lot of people have asked for this. So once I get the antenna installed on my mast I will make a comparison video. Cheers
What software is this
I’ve been thinking of buying one for ages. If you wana get rid Matt I’ll have it
compare it with the mla30 plz..just some frequensies
Matt have you an MLA30+ you can do a side by side on? I’ve got one I’d be happy to send you for the test.
Hey Pete, thanks for the offer. I believe I have the one I reviewed somewhere in my garage. I’ll have to dig it out and do a comparison video. Lots of people being mean to me because I didn’t compare it against anything else 😥
Nice!
Ive got a old rotator i could use if needed so is this best mounted horizontal or vertical for general hf use
I really want something like this, but I can't get it above the roof. I'm worried that the surrounding buildings would block out signal
Excellent rx only mag loop 👍
It does not seem to appear on your US Amazon storefront
Yeh, you have to purchase direct from the company that makes them. I dont think they sell on Amazon just yet.
I have looked and can’t seem to find anywhere in the US that sells them or a way to get this here… any advice?
Suggested comparison would be A/B comparison showing the signal/noise ratio in real time on an SDR waterfall. Also, I wonder if it can be mounted vertical and rotated?
Thanks, I will include that in my next video on this product. I believe that when mounting vertically you do get some slight nulls from the sides, so a rotator might help. However I have not tested that yet but I plan too.
Is this antenna no longer in the market?
I don't think it is unfortunately.
No A vs B comparison? How do you know it worked worth a damn
You really need to have a second antenna at the same height if you want to do that. But I agree it is quite difficult to know the performance. It is a bit like when you see top scores on Eham for antennas that are 1% effective due to size and basic design.
I have a HF discone, mounted on a 12 ft mast, on the house. It’s great for shortwave (including SSB and CW) FM, Airband and DAB, but awful on LW and MW. Even though it stated it covered 500khz to 30mhz.
Здравствуйте. Как я могу купить эту антенну?
Where can I buy one
He used to sell them on Ebay, but I think they have discontinued these now. Maybe drop them an email, fingers crossed!
Gosh, I want to buy one but they are always out of stock, and now they are doing a shop move and won't be making more until Summer!
Very interesting test. What was connected to Antenna B of the SDR ?
There was times I switched to my EFHW, but the sample clips were recorded at different times, and therefore ANT B was not always the EFHW. 99.9999% of the clips are this antenna shown, apart from when I quickly switched.
Don't switch. Record stereo...
They don't show prices on their page.....
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£150 + £10 postage will stick to the end fed antenna i think.Nice product though.
As a Ham Radio operator i am very familiar with Magnetic Loop Antennas . For one of my hf receive antennas, i have a Magnetic receive Loop antenna made by Larry W6LVP .
For one, comparing this antenna to a EFHW would only be reliveant if you understand the signal to noise ratio benefits of this antenna especially if mounted vertically and at 5 meter or more plus having it mounted on a router so you are able to rotate it and null out qrm .
Thank you for the review, you've peek my interest . Check out W6LVP
Think I'll stick to my excellent MLA30+ it's pretty much unbeatable.. be interesting to see Gilles in Canada test this though
Thanks for the vid. these guys are strange, their eBay links to buy don’t work. How on Earth do they sell them?
Would be more interesting to see some of the technical solutions. And a test should compare it with another antenna, long wire or some other known reference.
160M was the only ham band where it appeared to receive better than my EFHW. But I would not really do a proper comparison with the antenna so low to the ground. It would of been unfair. However I do plan on installing this antenna up on my mast in the near future. At that point i could make a fair comparison against my EFHW at least. Thanks.
Open it up! Surely you can line up the rectangular o ring!
Teardown please!
It will come soon :-)
Maybe not sponsored, but there is little difference between sponsored and free product in exchange for review, so for transparency it would be good to know if the goods go back after the review, or are kept at no cost. 👍
It's irrelevant, the video would of been exactly the same in any manner in which I received the product. Just like * ALL* my videos, I show you everything that I am doing and then show the results. There is not one single video or product that I have shown on this channel where I have been offered something in return for a favourable review, that would go against my ethos for this channel. Thanks for the comment though.
@@TechMindsOfficial I never said you were offered something ONLY for a favourable review, nor that you were biased in any way.... but I disagree it's irrelevant. There is a HUGE difference between keeping (for free) a product you review and sending it back after the review. One has monetary gain, and the other doesn't. Transparency is everything, so as you are obviously unbiased, just be open as to whether it's a freebie or not so people know, instead of the ambiguous " not sponsored" vernacular. Shills are ruining so may genres on UA-cam, we need the established channels to lead by example.
You are not the first and won’t be the last to bring this up. I agree that there may be people out there who are literally bribed to say good things about products, just have to look on Amazon reviews for that, but I am really tired of explaining my point of view. It IS irrelevant for ME! Because as I said, if I got something for free, or I paid for it, would NOT change what any of my video shows. I always show true results. Either people believe this or they don’t, and if they don’t then don’t watch my videos, I don’t care, it’s their loss. I can’t be arsed with conversations like this anymore, it wastes my time.
@@TechMindsOfficial Fair enough, it is your channel and therefore your choice, though it is important to me. Thanks for the response, and I wish you well. 👍
@@TechMindsOfficial Well said.
Great job! As always about nothing!
I think I found my Christmas present !
£150 + £10 postage will stick to the end fed antenna i think.Nice product though.
Has anyone tried this antenna with an SDR such as SDRPlay, etc? Most of them are deaf unless one connects a substantial antenna. Would like to take my SDRPlay RSP2 with me on travels, with a small portable antenna. Best regards, Gary, K7EK
I was using an RSPdx
Why are such antennas always so over priced? You can see the amateurish construction of it. Still asking the top price. A big shame.
Totally agree, I’ve purchased antennas from companies paid 100s , my 14 year old could have done better
@@mitchmitchell7470You should put your 14 yo to work then to help save up for uni.
I like your reviews but this one would have been improved by clear A and B switching as a comparison.
It wouldn’t of been a fair comparison with it being so low to the ground. However, it would appear others feel the same as you do, so once I have this antenna up on my mast, I will do another video showing a comparison between this and my EFHW. Not sure when that will be, but I’ll defo make one. Cheers
@@TechMindsOfficial look forward to it, thanks.
Thanks.. But, without a comparison with other antennas, this is pretty meaningless.. Apart from demonstrating that it works..
Of course it’s not meaningless! And a comparison is not needed. A comparison would be nice of cause, but this is marketed towards people that are not able to install large wire or yagi antennas. So why would someone need a comparison against those? It’s like saying if I reviewed a car to see how fast it goes I have to compare it to every other car. I think not.
@@TechMindsOfficial Errm..
227£ with taxes to bring the product to France ... too expensive !!
HF performer ? Just noisy amplifier. 😒
It was a lot quieter than my EFHW, even though signals stronger on the EFHW, could tell the loop was quieter.
A product review without a tear down is ...
Perfectly fine.. You don't find car or boat reviews being taken apart do you?
@@TechMindsOfficial Is this an unboxing channel or a tech channel?
I've seen So Many scams when tv antennas. Tell me how many miles will this tv antenna travel. I see many that say 100 miles plus and you might get that if you live at a place your showing this no trees open areas for many miles. How about in they
country with trees everywhere. I haven't really found a tv antenna that works very well at all and the claims some make line 150 miles plus are pure complete lies and I'd be willing to bet money on that Big money to
Hmmmm.. Luckily it's NOT a tv antenna...
@@TechMindsOfficial ok then explain what it is used for then. If not for A TV or TV Reception then what's it's use
I’m pretty sure the video was explains what it’s used for. For receiving radio transmissions 30 MHz and below
When I pulled up this video in was looking for tv antennas and apparently this has NOTHING to do with or for a television or it's reception at least that's what I've been told. If so excuse my comments
Terrible review. So it can pick up radio waves... So what is the gain of this antenna (in dBi or dBd)???
It's not available any more so it's irrelevant like your comment.
Ridiculous ! a long wire has more RX
Well of course it has! If someone has the space for a long wire, then they wouldnt buy an antenna like this. It’s designed for those that live in apartments, or extreme limited space. Can’t believe I have to explain this, it’s ridiculous!