Your content consistently amazes me. There aren’t enough creators with such amazing retro content. Keep up the amazing work. Looking forward to your continuing dedication and work!!!!
Thank youll This is exactly why I keep on doing this. This video was 7 hours of footage and 4 hours of editing resulting in a 45 minute video. Comments like this keep me going, thank you!
Unfortunately the Athlon 4000+ you have is for the Socket AM2 platform. The motherboard in this video is for Socket 939, so it's pins are incompatible. You can always cross-reference the CPU part number with the site CPU-WORLD to verify it's socket type. An Athlon 3800+ for this build with part number ADA3800DAA5CD would work well I think. It's a dual-core running at 2 GHZ, but it's extremely cheap for this platform. I have two aging 939 builds, both oddly enough running Windows 10 32 bit, as well as XP on separate SSD's. Great Video!! I look forward to progress!
Ok, thanks. A bit of confusion on my part as I had compared both CPUs visually and they seemed extremely identical lol. That and the motherboard manual indicated it supports 4000+ CPUs (just that exact model series wasn't listed). The pins were still bent on the 4000+ dammit lol. Thanks for the info, I will definitely look into this.
@@TheRetroRecall If you want the end all/be all of 939, you could either go for the FX-55 or Opteron 150. You will also see that a few rows of pins are swapped on AM2 from 939.
I am a huge fan of horizontal “Desktop” cases. They look great with a monitor sitting on top. Nice vintage look. I’ve got a couple identical vintage beige ATX Desktop cases still. Time to dust them off. Also huge fan of Silverstone and Enlight cases.
I was happy to see a hard drive in the frame to start the video. I appreciate those who still use hard drives in their retro builds, feels a bit more authentic if you ask me. Plus I just find silent flash boring!
Wow! This really takes me back. I haven't seen so much ketchup and mustard and molex in a long time. I have mixed feelings when it comes to nostalgia, I do enjoy the triggered memories, but at the same time it makes me think about how time flew by so fast.
Channels like yours is what I love and what motivates me. I just found an old PC my mom had from the late 90's... has a Pentium III, 256 MB of memory, jumpers set to 100Mhz FSB, no hard drive weirdly enough but has an original PCIe slot! I know I have some IDE drives kicking around, but if they can't be sacrified for a restore I'm confident there's enough options with this machine to bring it back to life.
@@n.shiina8798 Yah that sounds right... if I remember correctly it was about the size of an ISA slot, I put it back in the basement to get it out of my room until I can get a HDD setup for it.
@@n.shiina8798 I've been trying to find information on this computer, she doesn't remember when she got it and my initial Google searches have come up empty. I'm going to do a full cleaning and disassembly once I have everything I need because I also didn't find any manufacturer logo printed anywhere on the motherboard.
That sounds like a fun project! It's a lot of work and due to editing I'm able to make it much shorter but it's fun just the same! There's something about using older hardware and seeing it come alive! Thanks again for watching and for the amazing comment :)
I think the first PC I ever built was an Athlon 64. I build all my own PC's and always will. About 10 years ago people kept telling me and I kept reading that the PC is dead / will die soon. People said nobody is going to want a massice PC on their desk, the future is in tiny vesa mounted mini PC's / cloud computing / consoles bla bla or that consoles would basically become small PC's and kill of the desktop. How wrong those idiots were. Desktop PC's are always, have always been and will always be the literal most powerful computer an average person can make at home for an acceptable amount of money. Small is expensive, Innovation is expensive, adopting brand new hardware is expensive. Long Live the PC.
We sold these ECS boards when I was working at a wholesale computer supplier. This low budget brand had a few kinda stable (and interesting) boards and this is one of them. In fact most of their motherboards for AMD where ok, but although they did use a good chipset from time to time, most of the time the performance is lower than when you would have a board from better brands with the same chipset. Sometimes it was just the fact that major brands had overclocking features by default and the possibility to use higher clocked memory.
For sure. I find this is a well rounded board and like the features it has. Nice to see some CPU adjustments as well as built on RAID. That would have been quite handy at the time.
Oh wow, I had an ECS board like that back in the day. I think it ran a Duron or Sempron. Seeing your videos really makes me nostalgic for building my systems back in the day. It was often with whatever parts I could get. We didn’t have Amazon or Newegg. But we did have computer parts swap meets where you could find anything and everything for very low prices. There were very sketchy back alley shops selling cases and parts not quite like the shops in Taiwan but similar. The big box electronics stores came to town and killed the swap meets. Land prices ran off the small shops in favor of upscale loft apartments. Anyway thanks so much for the amazing videos!
Thanks for sharing this memory! Its a shame that the smaller more niche shops get closed down as a result. These stores had all of the neat components and parts you needed for your builds. Today we have things online for the most part with very few little stores around to meet that need. Thanks again for watching!
I'd like to find a Socket A version of that board for my old ME system just because I need to replace the psu in it, and it's next to impossible to find a decent one with enough amps on the 5 volt rail.
@Karataus 😆 thrift stores where I'm at flat out suck. I keep poking my head around ebay, looking for something that's still in the box, like one of those older Startech ones that had something like 350 watts of capacity.
For sure. I struggled so much with this build. There are so many options old and new that would have worked quite well. This case / project has inspired me for a future idea though :). Stay tuned!
I really like them ECS boards. Got one in a Pentium 4 build with a ATI 9800pro. Love the color so different and the board has never given me any trouble. It's rather basic my one but that kind of helps me as it has less to go wrong and reliability is great so far!
Agreed, their boards were good as well as MSI in terms of more entry level boards. I find when you got them, they either works really well or really badly lol.
I know it is late but the optical drive has either a lose belt or it has lost a cogwheel that drives the tray. The drive notices that qnd tries closing and then opening forever that makes the humming sound you describe. Should be a very easy fix.
While I can understand the drive for era appropriate hardware, life's too short to wait for spinning rust. I got a promise tx2300 sata2 pci card for my retro build with a used 120gb ssd. Just needed to slipstream the appropriate driver using Nlite to make a custom XP install CD. Keep the videos coming!
There's just something about that rust that brings a feel good feeling haha! Love your setup. Definitely something that I do entertain if needed. Yes - always working on new content!
I had a 4400 running in that ECS board for quite a while iirc. Worked fine with the latest bios and was a great boost over the 3200 thanks to that extra core. I vaguely remember my board being an nforce 4 chipset though, so not sure if that is what you have there? This is the point where there is crossover with AM2 on CPUs so make sure it is the right one when you buy.
I think I had a board vary similar but with a PCI-E slot when I started to get into PC hardware, had the 3000+ and the ATI x1800 XT which I still actually have.
Nice build you have there! Built a retro rebuild myself around the same Socket 939 ECS purple motherboard, but with an Athlon 64 X2 4800+, 2GB (2x1GB) Kingston Hyper-X DDR 400, XFX 256MB GDDR3 6600 GT AGP (@ full PCIe version speed), Sound Blaster Audigy SB0090, 160GB system & 320GB data Hitachi 7200rpm SATA HDDs, in an Antec NSK4100 case with Seasonic SS-600ET PSU, 2 PATA DVD drives, card reader, floppy drive, Noctua fans and a Wraith Prism RGB CPU cooler, running XP Pro SP3 32-bit.
@@TheRetroRecall I had rebuilt the system I originally had in some form or other between 2007 and 2014 mainly to handle certain older games that don't like running on my Q9650 750 Ti build, such as Microsoft Flight Simulator 2002 Professional. Also play games like Fable, Need For Speed Underground and Unreal Tournament on it, as well as Amstrad CPC, BBC Micro & Arcade Emulators.
@@TheRetroRecall Started off with an Athlon 64 4000+ and an FX 5900 LE, then moved on to an MSI ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro passively cooled AGP card, before finally getting the Athlon 64 X2 4800+ in 2010. Even tried running the system with an Ageia PhysX card at some point. (All brought second hand, as at the time I couldn't afford more than the Gigabyte EP35-DS3R motherboard for what would become the Q9650 750 Ti build, which I was finally able to complete around 2018).
Very nice build. keep the content comming. I bought a pair of led lighted Kingscope LED Illuminated Double Eye Jeweler Watch Repair Magnifying Glasses with different lenses fo help with fixing bent cpu pins. cheap and they really help. Thanks for the Video.
nice video has always :D, about that cpu i have checked two cpu i had one is 939 3500+ and the other am2 3500+ the layout of the hole on the pins side are different, than if that cpu actually fit the socket i think must be ok to try, but it's my idea if you want to be totally sure you must check the serial number on the cpu and check if it's actually a 939 or an am2 cpu :D
Yes I'm figuring that out now lol! Go me haha! See - this is why I have amazing viewers like you to keep me in check!! Why was this era of tech so 'fun' haha!! Thanks again:)
At least you had the IO shield for that board. One of my biggest peeves is these people that part out old systems and don't include the IO shield with the board. That's why I shelled out $300+ for a n.o.s MSI Socket 462 board a few years ago for the retro system I built. Well actually I think part of that was the shipping cost from Australia to the US.
Yes! It's one of the main things that gets forgotten. Fortunately I was able to locate on in my stash that matched up. Not 100% sure if it was meant for it or not but hey.. It fit pretty darn well.
I built a lot of PCs in the late nineties and early 2000s, a good friend owned a computer shop, and it was a fun hobby. In those days unique and interesting cases for custom builds were a mixed bag, Antec and Lian Li were making great cases, but they tended to be large full tower cases, the big prebuilt companies had nice looking, but very proprietary slim line cases. There were lots of no name cases the looked cool, but were of poor quality. I built my wife a PC in a semi transparent purple case, the same no name company even sold matching keyboards and mice, which were equally poor quality. Silverstone was a rarity back then, they did build quality products, they were fairly inexpensive, and had lots of models that were designed for home entertainment, or just to avoid the beige box look.
I think that was a great build! I don’t know anything about that graphics card, because I was a console gamer in the Windows XP era, but it looks like it’s performing well in UT 2004. (Is it just me, or did mechanical hard drives perform better in older operating systems like XP then they do with Windows 10?) Great parts!
I wanted to Build a Media Center PC with this Case: I had an IT Job after HighSchool, Had a Line of Credit @ CompUSA lol I was going to use a Linux Project called GeeXbox Unfortunately, I was also working on Transfering a Dreamcast Into an NES Case..... Something Grounded out and Blew my nice TV... All personal funds were on halt for a while lol
Haha! Priorities lol. Having a line of credit at CompUSA would have been dangerous!! Sorry to hear about your TV and not being able to complete the project. I am confident that you did end up doing others though :). Thanks for watching!
Always thought these media center PC cases were pretty cool, never had one, the only time I had a PC plugged into my TV it was one of those ShuttlePC cubes, really miss that machine, should have kept it.
Hello, nice build, gorgeous case. I know some already told you, but yep an FX5200 was already a low end card for a mid tier Athlon XP, the FX5500 is barely any better, the only cards from the FX line are on the collection territory now, FX5800/5900 or a quadro FX3000, better aim for a 6600/6800GT If you find a cheap AGP GeForce 6600GT that would match a little better the performance of S939 CPUs like the 3000/3500 single core that you can still find for cheap, some models like the 4800X2, are a little too expensive, but a 4000/4200X2 fual core can give a 6800GT AGP a nice workout. Best regards.
Thanks for the info!! Yeah I mean it's what I had haha! It's awesome though having all of this great info. I will keep an eye out for some of those cards you had mentioned - they tend to appear out in the wild once in a while and I get lucky. That's how I was able to find my Voodoo3 3000 card! Yes the case is crazy awesome. So versatile, built solid, and could accommodate many builds. Again, thanks for the info and for watching!
I love classic computers, and this one is beautiful. However, they were and still are today much too loud! I need silence, except for the sound of the game I'm playing or the media I'm consuming. So, there's one thing I always do with old vintage machines: I install modern silent fans wherever I can. (And for the OS, I use SSDs if possible.)
I had a similar setup running for almost 9 years. Specs Athlon 64 3000+ Gigabyte GA-K8NF9 1gb / later upgraded to 2gb (Geil) 160gb maxtor hdd Gigabyte Geforce 6600 GT Gddr3 128mb PCI-E Thermaltake sViking case LC Power 600w psu
I have had similar Asus board to the last pc and it wont turn on at all if the cmos battery is dead and simply removing it does fix that. I think you should give it a try!
Can you imagin that a Elsa GLoria DCC ist faster than a Geforce FX5200, in the Game Especially The Elder Scrolls III Morrowind? I tested it and was Surprised. At leest on my IBM Netvista P4 PC. So i endet with to use that ELSA Card.
Hey, for AMD CPUs of this generation the best motherboard you can get if the NVidia NForce Deluxe Gold (from ASUS if you can by some miracle get one, that mobo has a 3 DSP sound card that kicks butt not to mention other performance enhancing goodies, the DSPs do make the sound care barely use any CPU for one, there are other toys)
I’ve been wanting to do an xp build for a while but don’t know which parts would be compatible with what. I was only in elementary school during the xp era so my knowledge is limited
There are a lot of great sites out there that can assist with compatible hardware of the early 2000s. Your best bet may be to check out thrift stores or your local online marketplaces and see if you can find a cheap XP system to learn more about the OS and associated hardware. Once you get a footing, you can then expand your knowledge with looking into what that hardware can support, or keeping an eye out for another system and or hardware that has more features :)
Yes, I was referring to emulation on new systems running old software, or online game services. The flash to IDE, or SSD to IDE was never in question - I just prefer to use Platter drives for that extra kick of the real feeling of sound and speed.
Fun, in a nostalgic way. WXP would be accurate, even "hold outs" from W2K like me would have already swapped to XP SP3 by then. All in all, if you have the parts lying around, not a bad choice, but if you're going "bargain bin" hunting for a cheap box, might as well go for a AM2(+)+Athlon X2, they should be dirt cheap, or a low spec LGA775+C2D. The FX5200 is killing your performance though, that card is about as cr*a as it gets, even my 4200TI could beat it, as DX9 stuff in unusable in the FX5200. Which is a good reason to take AM2(+)/LGA775 as a motherboard choice, then you can get stuff like a 6600GT/8600GS/9600GS for next to peanuts, and that makes your gaming experience exponentially better.
Haha! I thought about 2000 but xp just fit the bill. You are right regarding the card - as I have learned from many comments lol. I will see what I can find for future builds :) thanks for the amazing info!
Man! The FX5200 is arguably the (deliberately, anyway) worst GPU nVidia ever unleashed. You could get better performance at the time from a GF3, no lie. I mean it's moot these days, right? But believe me, as someone who got bit by the damn thing ("Wow, a major upgrade from my GF4, and it's only $99!"), those cards SUCKED.
Lol, so I've been told but come on!!! It worked great and served the build from 20 years ago!! Would I have bought an equivalent today?? Probably not lol.. But hey it's fun just the same:)
@@TheRetroRecall Oh, of course, I get you. Just don't be surprised if GTA:SA hits single digit framerates with it installed :D The FX5200 was the GT710 of its day, fact. But at least GPU vendors didn't market the GT710 or 730 as a gaming card (although system builders did during the GPU draught from 2020 to late 2022).
There's no way i would go back to AGP, or PCI, or VLB, or ISA(E)... After soft paper on a roll and moist wipes were invented, leaves and pine cones lost their charm.
makes me wonder where my 3500+ x64 is. still have it and the 8600gt silent i ran in it.. someplace. should toss that system back together at some point.
Now that's a good call out. Just thinking about that now. That diamond book was with the card taped to it in ewaste. It's very possible that is a mistake.... I'm going to look into this. Thabks for noting this!
Hahah maybe... But for this build and era specific - I think it worked pretty well and could do some decent work in this system. Now I realize there will always be better card for any time period - however this was on hand and was much better than some old pci s3 card :)
Your content consistently amazes me. There aren’t enough creators with such amazing retro content. Keep up the amazing work. Looking forward to your continuing dedication and work!!!!
Thank youll This is exactly why I keep on doing this. This video was 7 hours of footage and 4 hours of editing resulting in a 45 minute video. Comments like this keep me going, thank you!
They're stuck in their own little snobby clubs like Vogons and TheRetroWeb. Both are very cliquey communities.
You are the only retro channel that deals with the XP Era and later
Unfortunately the Athlon 4000+ you have is for the Socket AM2 platform. The motherboard in this video is for Socket 939, so it's pins are incompatible. You can always cross-reference the CPU part number with the site CPU-WORLD to verify it's socket type. An Athlon 3800+ for this build with part number ADA3800DAA5CD would work well I think. It's a dual-core running at 2 GHZ, but it's extremely cheap for this platform. I have two aging 939 builds, both oddly enough running Windows 10 32 bit, as well as XP on separate SSD's. Great Video!! I look forward to progress!
Ok, thanks. A bit of confusion on my part as I had compared both CPUs visually and they seemed extremely identical lol. That and the motherboard manual indicated it supports 4000+ CPUs (just that exact model series wasn't listed). The pins were still bent on the 4000+ dammit lol. Thanks for the info, I will definitely look into this.
@@TheRetroRecall If you want the end all/be all of 939, you could either go for the FX-55 or Opteron 150. You will also see that a few rows of pins are swapped on AM2 from 939.
@@TheRetroRecall 939 will always be labeled 2001 and AM2 2005. Easy little trick to remember.
Thanks for the info!
Damn... this is now vintage?? I remember the OG PC gamer mags with the old newegg ads like yesterday with those cool colourful cases 😭
Hahah yes!!! I'm feeling old now everytime I do a video haha!
It's awesome to watch as I'm testing some computer parts.
Nice!!! Good luck - it's always an adventure haha.
@@TheRetroRecall thanks man. Specially troubleshooting it can be so much fun 😂
Complete fun or a total disaster hahahaha!
@@TheRetroRecall hahaha totally right 🤣
I am a huge fan of horizontal “Desktop” cases. They look great with a monitor sitting on top. Nice vintage look. I’ve got a couple identical vintage beige ATX Desktop cases still. Time to dust them off. Also huge fan of Silverstone and Enlight cases.
That's awesome and yes dig them out and get them going!!
I was happy to see a hard drive in the frame to start the video. I appreciate those who still use hard drives in their retro builds, feels a bit more authentic if you ask me. Plus I just find silent flash boring!
I completely agree!!
Wow! This really takes me back. I haven't seen so much ketchup and mustard and molex in a long time. I have mixed feelings when it comes to nostalgia, I do enjoy the triggered memories, but at the same time it makes me think about how time flew by so fast.
Haha absolutely. It's definitely mixed feelings and makes you Thu k how far we've come!
Channels like yours is what I love and what motivates me. I just found an old PC my mom had from the late 90's... has a Pentium III, 256 MB of memory, jumpers set to 100Mhz FSB, no hard drive weirdly enough but has an original PCIe slot! I know I have some IDE drives kicking around, but if they can't be sacrified for a restore I'm confident there's enough options with this machine to bring it back to life.
did you mean PCI-X? PCIe were introduced on 2003
@@n.shiina8798 Yah that sounds right... if I remember correctly it was about the size of an ISA slot, I put it back in the basement to get it out of my room until I can get a HDD setup for it.
@@livefreeprintguns ah, yes it's PCI-X. they're quite uncommon for consumer board afaik
@@n.shiina8798 I've been trying to find information on this computer, she doesn't remember when she got it and my initial Google searches have come up empty. I'm going to do a full cleaning and disassembly once I have everything I need because I also didn't find any manufacturer logo printed anywhere on the motherboard.
That sounds like a fun project! It's a lot of work and due to editing I'm able to make it much shorter but it's fun just the same! There's something about using older hardware and seeing it come alive! Thanks again for watching and for the amazing comment :)
You built it like it was 2003 👍👍👍
Hahahha retro style!
I think the first PC I ever built was an Athlon 64. I build all my own PC's and always will. About 10 years ago people kept telling me and I kept reading that the PC is dead / will die soon. People said nobody is going to want a massice PC on their desk, the future is in tiny vesa mounted mini PC's / cloud computing / consoles bla bla or that consoles would basically become small PC's and kill of the desktop. How wrong those idiots were. Desktop PC's are always, have always been and will always be the literal most powerful computer an average person can make at home for an acceptable amount of money. Small is expensive, Innovation is expensive, adopting brand new hardware is expensive. Long Live the PC.
I love this post!!! You are so right!
We sold these ECS boards when I was working at a wholesale computer supplier. This low budget brand had a few kinda stable (and interesting) boards and this is one of them. In fact most of their motherboards for AMD where ok, but although they did use a good chipset from time to time, most of the time the performance is lower than when you would have a board from better brands with the same chipset. Sometimes it was just the fact that major brands had overclocking features by default and the possibility to use higher clocked memory.
The K7S5A rocked my world when I had to shop for a cheap 462 motherboard. It also performed better compared to the KT266A in some tasks.
For sure. I find this is a well rounded board and like the features it has. Nice to see some CPU adjustments as well as built on RAID. That would have been quite handy at the time.
Oh wow, I had an ECS board like that back in the day. I think it ran a Duron or Sempron. Seeing your videos really makes me nostalgic for building my systems back in the day. It was often with whatever parts I could get. We didn’t have Amazon or Newegg. But we did have computer parts swap meets where you could find anything and everything for very low prices. There were very sketchy back alley shops selling cases and parts not quite like the shops in Taiwan but similar. The big box electronics stores came to town and killed the swap meets. Land prices ran off the small shops in favor of upscale loft apartments. Anyway thanks so much for the amazing videos!
Thanks for sharing this memory! Its a shame that the smaller more niche shops get closed down as a result. These stores had all of the neat components and parts you needed for your builds. Today we have things online for the most part with very few little stores around to meet that need. Thanks again for watching!
I'd like to find a Socket A version of that board for my old ME system just because I need to replace the psu in it, and it's next to impossible to find a decent one with enough amps on the 5 volt rail.
Yeah, hopefully you can find one. Thrift stores?
@Karataus 😆 thrift stores where I'm at flat out suck. I keep poking my head around ebay, looking for something that's still in the box, like one of those older Startech ones that had something like 350 watts of capacity.
Hmmmm amazon any luck there?
honestly really nice case , could see that as a modern htpc still
For sure. I struggled so much with this build. There are so many options old and new that would have worked quite well. This case / project has inspired me for a future idea though :). Stay tuned!
I really like them ECS boards. Got one in a Pentium 4 build with a ATI 9800pro. Love the color so different and the board has never given me any trouble. It's rather basic my one but that kind of helps me as it has less to go wrong and reliability is great so far!
Agreed, their boards were good as well as MSI in terms of more entry level boards. I find when you got them, they either works really well or really badly lol.
I know it is late but the optical drive has either a lose belt or it has lost a cogwheel that drives the tray. The drive notices that qnd tries closing and then opening forever that makes the humming sound you describe. Should be a very easy fix.
Thanks! I have a Creative Quad drive (4x) that is having some issues that I really want to get going. I may tap you on the shoulder for some advice!
The first computer that I built with NEW, not trash picked or used parts was an AMD Athlon 62 3200+ in an MSI board with my first ever PCIe video card
Awesome!!!... Lol 'trash picked'.... I'm not that bad. :)
While I can understand the drive for era appropriate hardware, life's too short to wait for spinning rust. I got a promise tx2300 sata2 pci card for my retro build with a used 120gb ssd. Just needed to slipstream the appropriate driver using Nlite to make a custom XP install CD. Keep the videos coming!
There's just something about that rust that brings a feel good feeling haha! Love your setup. Definitely something that I do entertain if needed. Yes - always working on new content!
nice content and computer build. Greetings from Steven from the Netherlands
Thanks!!!
U got two 👍👍 up. I have this build. I love win xp pro x64 sp 3. There was nothing I could not do with xp. Lots of ❤️🔥from Canada 🇨🇦
Thanks!!!! Great to have you along!
I had a 4400 running in that ECS board for quite a while iirc. Worked fine with the latest bios and was a great boost over the 3200 thanks to that extra core. I vaguely remember my board being an nforce 4 chipset though, so not sure if that is what you have there? This is the point where there is crossover with AM2 on CPUs so make sure it is the right one when you buy.
Thanks for this info and yes - they were just on the cusp of changing and that's what made this era of computing so confusing but fun too!
I think I had a board vary similar but with a PCI-E slot when I started to get into PC hardware, had the 3000+ and the ATI x1800 XT which I still actually have.
That's awesome! I think the nForce 4 board had the PCI-E slot on the board.
Nice build you have there! Built a retro rebuild myself around the same Socket 939 ECS purple motherboard, but with an Athlon 64 X2 4800+, 2GB (2x1GB) Kingston Hyper-X DDR 400, XFX 256MB GDDR3 6600 GT AGP (@ full PCIe version speed), Sound Blaster Audigy SB0090, 160GB system & 320GB data Hitachi 7200rpm SATA HDDs, in an Antec NSK4100 case with Seasonic SS-600ET PSU, 2 PATA DVD drives, card reader, floppy drive, Noctua fans and a Wraith Prism RGB CPU cooler, running XP Pro SP3 32-bit.
Thanks... Now your build sounds pretty great!! What kind of games did you run on it?
@@TheRetroRecall I had rebuilt the system I originally had in some form or other between 2007 and 2014 mainly to handle certain older games that don't like running on my Q9650 750 Ti build, such as Microsoft Flight Simulator 2002 Professional. Also play games like Fable, Need For Speed Underground and Unreal Tournament on it, as well as Amstrad CPC, BBC Micro & Arcade Emulators.
@@TheRetroRecall Started off with an Athlon 64 4000+ and an FX 5900 LE, then moved on to an MSI ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro passively cooled AGP card, before finally getting the Athlon 64 X2 4800+ in 2010.
Even tried running the system with an Ageia PhysX card at some point.
(All brought second hand, as at the time I couldn't afford more than the Gigabyte EP35-DS3R motherboard for what would become the Q9650 750 Ti build, which I was finally able to complete around 2018).
That's awesome. I loved the flight simulator series! All of these games have come such a long way.
Very nice build. keep the content comming. I bought a pair of led lighted Kingscope LED Illuminated Double Eye Jeweler Watch Repair Magnifying Glasses with different lenses fo help with fixing bent cpu pins. cheap and they really help. Thanks for the Video.
Ok, now that's an amazing idea!! Amazon shopping right now lol. Thanks again for watching and for your support!!
nice video has always :D, about that cpu i have checked two cpu i had one is 939 3500+ and the other am2 3500+ the layout of the hole on the pins side are different, than if that cpu actually fit the socket i think must be ok to try, but it's my idea if you want to be totally sure you must check the serial number on the cpu and check if it's actually a 939 or an am2 cpu :D
Yes I'm figuring that out now lol! Go me haha! See - this is why I have amazing viewers like you to keep me in check!! Why was this era of tech so 'fun' haha!! Thanks again:)
At least you had the IO shield for that board. One of my biggest peeves is these people that part out old systems and don't include the IO shield with the board. That's why I shelled out $300+ for a n.o.s MSI Socket 462 board a few years ago for the retro system I built. Well actually I think part of that was the shipping cost from Australia to the US.
Yes! It's one of the main things that gets forgotten. Fortunately I was able to locate on in my stash that matched up. Not 100% sure if it was meant for it or not but hey.. It fit pretty darn well.
Yesss knew that case was screaming an xp build!
Lol!!!!!!! Bam! Here it is!
I built a lot of PCs in the late nineties and early 2000s, a good friend owned a computer shop, and it was a fun hobby. In those days unique and interesting cases for custom builds were a mixed bag, Antec and Lian Li were making great cases, but they tended to be large full tower cases, the big prebuilt companies had nice looking, but very proprietary slim line cases. There were lots of no name cases the looked cool, but were of poor quality. I built my wife a PC in a semi transparent purple case, the same no name company even sold matching keyboards and mice, which were equally poor quality. Silverstone was a rarity back then, they did build quality products, they were fairly inexpensive, and had lots of models that were designed for home entertainment, or just to avoid the beige box look.
This is great! Thanks for sharing and watching!
Just commenting to say thanks and help the algo.
Glad you enjoyed!
I think that was a great build! I don’t know anything about that graphics card, because I was a console gamer in the Windows XP era, but it looks like it’s performing well in UT 2004. (Is it just me, or did mechanical hard drives perform better in older operating systems like XP then they do with Windows 10?) Great parts!
Thanks and yes, I just believe that mechanical drives are more authentic to an older build. It helps this was a SATA drive as well as being 7200 RPM.
@@TheRetroRecall Yeah, I think they are more authentic too.
@@TheRetroRecall Does that PC have SATA 2 or 3?
I believe Sata 1 (1.5gb/s)
man i love me some amd!!!!
Bam! And here it is haha! Thanks for watching!
First gaming PC I built using parts from Tiger Direct! Quake & Unreal Tournament days!
Nice! Tiger Direct.. Now that's a name I haven't heard of in a while!
I'm bringing my ga-k8n-pro sli board back to life maxed out this time...rofl just for kick will be running xp pro should be fun. Thanks for sharing
Hahah enjoy!!!! And you are welcome!
I wanted to Build a Media Center PC with this Case: I had an IT Job after HighSchool, Had a Line of Credit @ CompUSA lol
I was going to use a Linux Project called GeeXbox
Unfortunately, I was also working on Transfering a Dreamcast Into an NES Case..... Something Grounded out and Blew my nice TV... All personal funds were on halt for a while lol
Haha! Priorities lol. Having a line of credit at CompUSA would have been dangerous!! Sorry to hear about your TV and not being able to complete the project. I am confident that you did end up doing others though :). Thanks for watching!
Always thought these media center PC cases were pretty cool, never had one, the only time I had a PC plugged into my TV it was one of those ShuttlePC cubes, really miss that machine, should have kept it.
I barely remember those shuttlepcs! I wasn't fortunate enough to have a media center pc but I really wanted one!
and now you have one ;) @@TheRetroRecall
Haha so true. I actually have two! Did you check out the HP Media Center PC video?
I think I did, but that was a tower right?@@TheRetroRecall
Yup, a silver/grey one :)
Hello, nice build, gorgeous case.
I know some already told you, but yep an FX5200 was already a low end card for a mid tier Athlon XP, the FX5500 is barely any better, the only cards from the FX line are on the collection territory now, FX5800/5900 or a quadro FX3000, better aim for a 6600/6800GT
If you find a cheap AGP GeForce 6600GT that would match a little better the performance of S939 CPUs like the 3000/3500 single core that you can still find for cheap, some models like the 4800X2, are a little too expensive, but a 4000/4200X2 fual core can give a 6800GT AGP a nice workout.
Best regards.
Thanks for the info!! Yeah I mean it's what I had haha! It's awesome though having all of this great info. I will keep an eye out for some of those cards you had mentioned - they tend to appear out in the wild once in a while and I get lucky. That's how I was able to find my Voodoo3 3000 card! Yes the case is crazy awesome. So versatile, built solid, and could accommodate many builds. Again, thanks for the info and for watching!
it's hard to think of 64bit being "retro" ... it kind of is though, I had an Athlon 64 i want to say 2005. That's almost 20 years ago!
Hard to believe indeed. Time is flying.
4:12 - You're talking about two different things here as if they are the same. The hardware revision of the PCB won't change when you update the BIOS.
Thanks for the catch - this has been noted in the comments from another viewer :)
I love classic computers, and this one is beautiful. However, they were and still are today much too loud! I need silence, except for the sound of the game I'm playing or the media I'm consuming. So, there's one thing I always do with old vintage machines: I install modern silent fans wherever I can. (And for the OS, I use SSDs if possible.)
Hah, I live all of the annoying noises. Makes me relive the moments of when this hardware was new. That said, I totally get it!
A neat build.
Thanks! There were many other options of course there always are.. But hey had to do something with this awesome case!
@@TheRetroRecall It's appears to be a well built case.
It is, very solid! Would have loved one of these as a kid!
I had a similar setup running for almost 9 years.
Specs
Athlon 64 3000+
Gigabyte GA-K8NF9
1gb / later upgraded to 2gb (Geil)
160gb maxtor hdd
Gigabyte Geforce 6600 GT Gddr3 128mb PCI-E
Thermaltake sViking case
LC Power 600w psu
Awesome!! Glad to see this hardware still going today!
I have had similar Asus board to the last pc and it wont turn on at all if the cmos battery is dead and simply removing it does fix that. I think you should give it a try!
Awesome, thanks for the info!
Good job
Thanks!
SilverStone Technology Co., Ltd: 👁👁
It's a fantastic case, they make great stuff!
Can you imagin that a Elsa GLoria DCC ist faster than a Geforce FX5200, in the Game Especially The Elder Scrolls III Morrowind? I tested it and was Surprised. At leest on my IBM Netvista P4 PC. So i endet with to use that ELSA Card.
I mean the fx5200 runs for what it is but there were many other cards out there with less specs that ran far better.
Hey, for AMD CPUs of this generation the best motherboard you can get if the NVidia NForce Deluxe Gold (from ASUS if you can by some miracle get one, that mobo has a 3 DSP sound card that kicks butt not to mention other performance enhancing goodies, the DSPs do make the sound care barely use any CPU for one, there are other toys)
This is great, thanks for sharing! I will keep my eye out for one for sure! My list of 'love to haves' is growing haha.
I’ve been wanting to do an xp build for a while but don’t know which parts would be compatible with what. I was only in elementary school during the xp era so my knowledge is limited
There are a lot of great sites out there that can assist with compatible hardware of the early 2000s. Your best bet may be to check out thrift stores or your local online marketplaces and see if you can find a cheap XP system to learn more about the OS and associated hardware. Once you get a footing, you can then expand your knowledge with looking into what that hardware can support, or keeping an eye out for another system and or hardware that has more features :)
On a side note...i use legacy update to get updates for xp, works great
Ok, I definitely have to try that!
Aghm, WHAT????
HOW??
Please, elaborate on it!
At its true value
It's a nice system, love the Silverstone case!
flash and adapters are real hardware as well...
Yes, I was referring to emulation on new systems running old software, or online game services. The flash to IDE, or SSD to IDE was never in question - I just prefer to use Platter drives for that extra kick of the real feeling of sound and speed.
Fun, in a nostalgic way. WXP would be accurate, even "hold outs" from W2K like me would have already swapped to XP SP3 by then. All in all, if you have the parts lying around, not a bad choice, but if you're going "bargain bin" hunting for a cheap box, might as well go for a AM2(+)+Athlon X2, they should be dirt cheap, or a low spec LGA775+C2D. The FX5200 is killing your performance though, that card is about as cr*a as it gets, even my 4200TI could beat it, as DX9 stuff in unusable in the FX5200. Which is a good reason to take AM2(+)/LGA775 as a motherboard choice, then you can get stuff like a 6600GT/8600GS/9600GS for next to peanuts, and that makes your gaming experience exponentially better.
Haha! I thought about 2000 but xp just fit the bill. You are right regarding the card - as I have learned from many comments lol. I will see what I can find for future builds :) thanks for the amazing info!
Man! The FX5200 is arguably the (deliberately, anyway) worst GPU nVidia ever unleashed. You could get better performance at the time from a GF3, no lie. I mean it's moot these days, right? But believe me, as someone who got bit by the damn thing ("Wow, a major upgrade from my GF4, and it's only $99!"), those cards SUCKED.
Lol, so I've been told but come on!!! It worked great and served the build from 20 years ago!! Would I have bought an equivalent today?? Probably not lol.. But hey it's fun just the same:)
@@TheRetroRecall Oh, of course, I get you. Just don't be surprised if GTA:SA hits single digit framerates with it installed :D
The FX5200 was the GT710 of its day, fact. But at least GPU vendors didn't market the GT710 or 730 as a gaming card (although system builders did during the GPU draught from 2020 to late 2022).
There's no way i would go back to AGP, or PCI, or VLB, or ISA(E)... After soft paper on a roll and moist wipes were invented, leaves and pine cones lost their charm.
Where's the fun??? :)
makes me wonder where my 3500+ x64 is. still have it and the 8600gt silent i ran in it.. someplace. should toss that system back together at some point.
Yes you should haha! Always great to have older hardware up and running. Thanks for watching!
model of this silverstone case??
I will see if I can get that for you. I'll have to go through storage - I appreciate your patience :)
@@TheRetroRecall Ok thank you very much.
What did i see two differend kind of ramm ?????
Yes.
I'm new here
Welcome!!!!!!
Love the case for sure
It really was a cool find!
15:05 “Chassis” is pronounced like “shassy”
Thanks. Tomayyto, tomahhto? :) Noting I did pick that up as well, However it was after publishing.
i need to find a mobo with a agp 8x slot
I was fortunate to have found a motherboard with one as part of the Motherboard Mayhem ewaste find. I think it turned out pretty great
@@TheRetroRecall being an amd/ati homer i'd like to pair that setup with my sapphire hd 3850 agp card.
Gonna have to find unreal tournament 2004 lol
It is sooo freaking awesome!!!
i didnt think diamond made nvidia cards.....they made ati cards back then.
Now that's a good call out. Just thinking about that now. That diamond book was with the card taped to it in ewaste. It's very possible that is a mistake.... I'm going to look into this. Thabks for noting this!
Ok, so I just looked it up and Diamond made the Diamond Stealth S90 8x AGP card based on the Nvidia GeForce 5200 fx chipset! Mystery solved!
www.gpuzoo.com/GPU-Diamond_Multimedia/Stealth_S90_-_S90.html
@@TheRetroRecall wow that's a first for me considering the fx line is notorious for not great performance.
They made both
360p :(
Its UA-cam. It was uploaded at 4k, they are still processing unfortunately. It will get better!! :)
Watch in 360p for the full retro experience! :D
This comment... Where is the heart react lol!!
I got 720p
It's getting better already.. Thanks UA-cam God's! Haha.
Sorry,but as it was said before FX5200 IS a terrible card !!!
Hahah maybe... But for this build and era specific - I think it worked pretty well and could do some decent work in this system. Now I realize there will always be better card for any time period - however this was on hand and was much better than some old pci s3 card :)