It's so sad that you have to flaunder clothes, cars, jewelry to get young people to listen to you ! I thought church and belief is ALL about being humble. Humble how Jesus was !
Whats good in the hood worshiping money on the streets, worshipping money in church, all leads to evil 🤷🏽♀️ “For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. And some people, craving money, have wandered from the true faith and pierced themselves with many sorrows.” 1 Timothy 6:10 NLT
Church is a gang reform, prostitute reform, thief reform, liar reform, addict reform, murder reform, religious reform, it takes sin and reforms us into our true identity through grace and love!! Since when has church become an aquarium for christians ...
Rachel Sonaiki this is a home for people that no one cares about so why don’t you mind your on business if you don’t wanna be a part of it why you judging brudda like u know about the way brudda live
Da An but why are you crying tho? I have an opinion, you have your own. Shikena. But don’t speak recklessly, yeah. Cool😌 And who in particular did I judge because I don’t recall directing my comment to a specific individual 🤔
Rachel Sonaiki 🤔 what do you mean recklessly stop gassing ur selt and we’re you even from cah mans from Brixton/Clapham I’m guessing your just some YAT from Woking it Brighton low the verbal
Young dizz raps about making ppl drink acid and laughing at mums of dead kids crying about burying their son , and then he got the nerve to say he ain't a violent person and he's been painted wrong 🤦🏻♂️
I feel like this church needs to distinguish between building entrepreneurs and building faith within the people that go here. Getting drug dealers and young people in gangs to change their ways should be applauded but the gospel is really not what they are selling to these young people in my opinion, they're selling a lifestyle. So what I feel needs to be done is have spac nation church and have a spac nation organisation. One of which helps people come to Christ and then the other can be a separate organisation that helps people who have taken a wrong turn in life become entrepreneurs. Not bashing spac nation it just seems like there's too much going on and christianity isn't the primary focus.
Bally’s in church? Gospel drill? Flaunting wealth in church? It will NEVER make sense to me. This church is filled with false prophets. 1 Timothy 6 says it all really, especially 1 Timothy 6:10 “For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.”
How else can you introduce religion to the youth of today? They need to enjoy being there. I’m not about following everything said in the bible. Things change, generations have different ways of doing things it’s as simple as that. It’s just such a close minded way of thinking about things
S kay 1) 1 John 1:6-7 - that is a fair pint, but it is ironic and quite paradoxical that people are wearing clothing that they would’ve worn to go and commit crimes in the house of the Lord. It shows they still haven’t fully let go of that lifestyle. 2) do you go to the church or? The leaders of the church literally all wear red bottoms and lots of designer. The pastors car? Have you not seen their music videos? Pls, as someone who has visited that church, I know what I’m talking about. 1 John 2:6, Micah 6:8
Jack McLaughlin I’m aam part of the youth of today, and I can easily say there are many ways of introducing religion to the youth of today. I respect how they’re getting the youth off of the streets, I’m more concerned about the false teachings. Yes, things change, don’t you think God already anticipated that? Biblical teachings, when perceived correctly can still be applied to our generation. Deuteronomy 8:6. You might choose to not follow the bible, but for me my walk with God has come leaps and bounds from reading the bible and praying that God allows me to read it with understanding and open mindedness.
Flowerrose121 wow I didn’t know about that, thank you for shedding light on it I’d only heard about a few other scandals. I pray that the truth will come out, I definitely believe they are getting their money in illegitimate ways. 1 Timothy 6:5 “To them, a show of Godliness is just a way to become wealthy”
@@kd4465 They might _also_ be wearing what they consider their best. They think they're clean as the board of health! I, nor anyone but them and the Lord knows what's in their hearts. God will meet us where we are, right _here,_ right _now._ If they truly want to worship in spirit and truth, God will move on their heart, and create a brand new being. Their young both in earthly age and in Christ.
When will they make a documentary about black people taking the piss out of other black people going to uni. I don't believe white people have a problem with that.
@@Trickynuh My thoughts exactly, like Jesus uses peoples past (mistakes) and creates purpose from it, so obviously, He will use ex gang-members.. bc they know exactly what got them into that lifestyle (lack of opportunity & hunger for success/freedom) and now they use it as a tool to point the lost towards Jesus (true peace & freedom). God gave everyone unique ways to reach the souls.. just because it is unconventional to some doesn't make it pseudo or wicked. God loves all His children and he knows how each of their hearts are and how to engage them. For some it's peace, others it's financial stability -- (what most risked their freedom and lives to get out in the streets). I pray that they continue to reach each soul and ignite their purpose for God's glory. Yes, it is evident that the material stability is what attracts them.. we can all think of something that first attracted us to God (find a husband or receive healing for an illness, or something else that is from this material world), but after maturing in faith we gained awareness and transformation on WHO He truly is, with time and patience ****through relationship with Jesus & the church community****, God reveals Himself more and more, and we mature and stop expecting blessing, but learn what it means to be a Christian... to give and guide others to life and peace... so yeah it documentary wont go into depth... but I CHALLENGE those who want to judge and assume.. maybe look up a sermon from the church and see if they are preaching the true gospel of freedom from the enslavement that this world oppresses (ESPECIALLY MINORITIES) into what feels like a trap of sin... at least they are doing something about it.. instead of complaining on the internet.. for those who aren't satisfied, how many souls did you win for Jesus this week? ? ?
*The Gospel of Jesus Christ is enough.* Jesus Christ never required any additional extras in order to draw men unto Himself. And he associated with prostitutes, tax collectors, and even hung on a cross next to thieves. Yet the messages from this documentary seem so contradictory to Biblical facts. The true Gospel of Jesus Christ doesn’t require cars/ clothes/ material wealth/ balaclavas etc to win souls for the kingdom. SPAC nation - please understand this. *The Gospel of Jesus Christ is enough.* Nothing needs to be added to it. And nothing needs to be subtracted from it. Selah.
How difficult is it to get a job once you have a criminal record? Clearly the system doesn’t work or so many people wouldn’t feel like they have to turn back to the illegal life.
LJ Jackson That’s not true man I live in America in my city I applied and called almost everywhere I could work I’m 18 and I still haven’t gotten a job. I have no criminal record at all either at 16 I worked at McDonald’s though
““No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon [money, possessions, fame, status, or whatever is valued more than the Lord].” MATTHEW 6:24 AMP
Opinions on Spac aside half these man need to deal with the trauma of their experiences, walking around with PTSD & other undiagnosed conditions. The church should encourage seeking professional help alongside their redemption if that's the route they're trying to go down
@@elpresidente6734: If that's been your experience of "professional help", then it hasn't really been "professional", has it? Of course you'll have some bad professionals but there are many out there who genuinely want to improve lives of people who've been through difficult situations, and to help people come to terms with things they've lived.
If they take one gang member off the streets in the long run how man lives does that save and how many more prevented from being affect by tragedy FEEL THAT
How long before all those road man in the church start hating one each other and the inevitable happens. All those youths are just there because they are enticed by the shine and once the shine is not equally distributed then plots will be made.
@@ricoszn7146 its routine to say the name of 'Jesus' in a prayer out of habit. But this documentary is about saving lives and bringing people to Christ and Jesus is not mentioned as the reason for bringing people to the gospel? How Sway? How? loool false Prophets!
@Nick Fitzpatrick His motives are questionable, what if he wasn't offering materialism to these young impressionable boys how else would he try and engage with them? Once he has them in the clutches of his church it means bigger rewards for him in donationations.
@Nick Fitzpatrick That Pastor is doing many of them a disservice because their minds are set on materialism and at the end of the day whatmatters most is your health and state of mind.
God bless these young people and may they get deeper into the true gospel, true doctrine, true Word. Rejoicing that they're coming out of gang life (less stabbings, shootings, drug dealing.. less sinning). Glory to God
People don’t know Nigerians. To them having a successful church is a pop star sort of lifestyle. You are a celebrity, In the limelight. They thrive off it in all ways. Film star lifestyle. Its creed because its going beyond that lifestyle of being just comfortable.
But its about the gospel , not once did they talk about how Jesus saved their life that's the gospel they're meant to share instead the say" spac nation saved me" you're not saved by a church you're saved by Jesus Christ and that's the only way you can be saved any other then that's blasphemy and false doctrine
@@TheSanctifiedBabe: To be fair (and I don't them much) what you've mentioned (in isolation) doesn't necessarily mean they're all bad. Them saying "SPAC Nation saved me" may not necessarily refer to spirituality in itself*, but more to the fact that before meeting them they were involved in things that weren't the best, and since encountering the group they've decided to stop being involved in such activities. (* Yes, you could argue that they should be more spiritual, but at the same time they seem quite smart and probably know that people tend to switch off when you just start off like that)
Not surprised that young dizz has been sentenced to 12 years. There was evidently no change in his character, he was there to take up seats. He didn’t seem like he wanted to change.
If this pastor truly wanted to help his people and these young boys. He should invest in a charity and put these boys through a two year self healing program, also showing the qualities of life and what it takes to be a man. Go on trips to poverty countries, let them see how our people are suffering. Then once the program is completed. Then invest I them!!
I’m not one for making UA-cam comments but as a beckton resident my whole life and growing up with alot of these guys I commend u man for what u have done..it’s not easy layin it out bare like that u man are real for that..and U represented a place I love as much as U man perfectly...the past the present and the future of beckton is all here to see...kevin I salute u and JR next time u about holla me bro
As far as following the bible it’s a very dodgy church but as far as a institution to help young people get off the streets it looks like the method is working so I hope it continues to make an impact. Let’s not be too negative let’s give some encouragement and guidance instead.
As soon as i heard the pastors name I said to myself. No wonder. Nigerians will not dissapoint in living and flexing life to the max. Pastor got a Lambo
BigC90 90 About dumb as hell there were gangs in the UK before ethnic people even came here in majority. There’s always been gangs no imitation of American Gangs except from music. People obviously don’t have help as there as millions in the UK below the poverty line dumbass . There are people literally going without money sitting in darkness in there flats - so if people have to make money a certain way they will. Plus These gangs a Generational things. Look at places like Glasgow etc are they imitating Americans 😒
BigC90 90 Poverty may not be like third world countries here but living on benefits barely does anything for you - Americans also live on welfare so where do we go from here ??
BigC90 90 most of those in the middle class are mainly targeted by affiliation. You could live in a nice area and be a target just by the people you hang around or area you go to school in? You can’t say a lot of people have the opportunity when there are ALOT of people who are living in council flats because they have no where to go - and sadly that’s where you see alot of the crime. If you live in a poor area chances of u turning to crime are more likely than someone in a middle class / rich area because that’s what you are more likely to see. Most of these people committing crimes are doing it because they’re broke. And when it comes to young black men it’s a disproportionate percentage of them who are targeted by police and also suffer institutional racism in the UK - so when there are no opportunity for those percentage of people what do you think they’re going to do? I’m not condoning any of it cos it’s DEFINITELY not only young black men but when you differentiate the opportunities they have compared to others - It’s not always a choice & it’s been like this for decades so couldn’t the government have helped them by now?
In fairness the way he introduced people to his faith COULD work really well, giving people great opportunity and if genuine he deserves a lot of respect, however he’s just seems a bit shady doesn’t he??
I really don’t know if I can take this seriously. It seems like a mess for me. They may be doing great things for people but i feels there’s more to it that I’m very sceptical off. Just something off. Can’t put my finger on it
London actually is one of the safest and best places for black people to live. However, no matter where you live in the world, if there are areas or pockets of society where people are living in relative poverty, this usually then leads onto things like desperation, depression, single parent families, perceived lack of opportunities, hopelessness etc. Then sooner or later these areas will become a hotbed for crime. And unfortunately here in London it is usually black people who live in these types of areas hence the high crime rate.
It is safe for them, they just take the piss and create illusionary hardships and ghettos for themselves and then it becomes real and spirals out of control, they create these hellholes themselves
#CTP Shadow He prayed in Jesus name but does not use the name of Jesus to bring people to spac. Yes I was wrong he did name Jesus (when praying) but when he speaks to youths people he does not present them Jesus he tells them about spac not Jesus. Spac is not a church but a business
The devil will always give you what you want at first to trap you. The devil is not loyal he will betray you. and he never comes in looking and acting like the devil he comes in as the angel of light. Please read your Bible build your own relationship with Jesus Christ cause spiritual warfare is real.
Many people are saying SPAC is not a church, but it is a church - people go there to praise god and seek redemption. All the other stuff they’re doing to help gang members leave the gang life is a separate ordeal, but they are using religion as a guide. The pastor is making a statement that you can get the lifestyle you want by taking a different and better approach. These boy are obviously in this life because of the money and power, so why not divert that interest into something more positive and productive? The whole point is that it is working, could not care less what they call themselves. Only God can tell. I just want the violent crime outbreak in London to stop.
Respect that comment. NGL though, I myself am 50/50 on my views about Spac Nation. On the one hand what they're doing is mad positive as in they are giving gang members and those from troubled backgrounds an alternative route in life by giving them the opportunity to put their energy into the church and God and at the same provide them with legitimate business skills that can help secure their future. HOWEVER, you have to question the motives of some of the people who are attending. I get this funny feeling that some of them are just going there to attain wealth, wear nice clothes and socialize. And we all know that's not what church is meant to be about.
Religion is big business. Pastor Toby is picking the most manipulative and influential young men he can find to help grow his business. If he stops these young men hating and killing themselves then what’s the problem?? Because he has expensive things?? The bible is full of contradiction and has always been open to interpretation. Leave the judgement to God.
I'm 14, I have managed to stay out of the street by realising that money isn't worth that much, I've simply just listened to my mother because stuffing a pound of cocaine up my arse isn't worth airforces
Its easy to loose yourself in the gang life but its just as hard to leave the gang life behind. It's not something you can do with a click of a finger some gangs really don't let you leave and I'm happy these people are getting the help they need.
It's only hard bcus the 1s u love the most get noticed by the higher, and they use that love against u. They'll protect someone who's loved by every female & even makes the most evil of men smile when he walks in a room- aside from drug addiction that's the 2nd trap. Is who you love.
I don’t understand what’s so enticing about gang life. Apart from the quick money, what’s so fun and exciting about looking over your shoulder knowing it could be your last day? No thanks.
I dont think its a cult, they are trying something different. Its being portrayed on wealth which is concerning but if it means less people dieng then fine.
Pastor driving a lambo automatic fraud
Respect the hustle
Lol
Exactly
He explained that this way he wants to connect to the youth 😄
It's so sad that you have to flaunder clothes, cars, jewelry to get young people to listen to you ! I thought church and belief is ALL about being humble. Humble how Jesus was !
Renata Ostertag amen amen & AMEN!!!!!
“Those who say they live in God should live their lives as Jesus did.”
1 John 2:6
Exactly!
It's sad but it's working to pull these people off the road
Whats good in the hood worshiping money on the streets, worshipping money in church, all leads to evil 🤷🏽♀️
“For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. And some people, craving money, have wandered from the true faith and pierced themselves with many sorrows.”
1 Timothy 6:10 NLT
Whats good in the hood they should become a youth club then
Tbh please just call yourselves a Gang Reform Organisation or something...
They are a church , because they put people towards god/ love, most people there are just normal black/white citizens
Church is a gang reform, prostitute reform, thief reform, liar reform, addict reform, murder reform, religious reform, it takes sin and reforms us into our true identity through grace and love!! Since when has church become an aquarium for christians ...
Rachel Sonaiki this is a home for people that no one cares about so why don’t you mind your on business if you don’t wanna be a part of it why you judging brudda like u know about the way brudda live
Da An but why are you crying tho? I have an opinion, you have your own. Shikena. But don’t speak recklessly, yeah. Cool😌
And who in particular did I judge because I don’t recall directing my comment to a specific individual 🤔
Rachel Sonaiki 🤔 what do you mean recklessly stop gassing ur selt and we’re you even from cah mans from Brixton/Clapham I’m guessing your just some YAT from Woking it Brighton low the verbal
Young dizz raps about making ppl drink acid and laughing at mums of dead kids crying about burying their son , and then he got the nerve to say he ain't a violent person and he's been painted wrong 🤦🏻♂️
G. WH1TE then y u listen to him
@@hassansalad7715 I never sed I listened to this guys music like I enjoy it
opps are opps
@@pastordonkoh7692 Shut up. You're a civilian
John Turner ur a neek
This guy is literally one of them Nigerian phone scammers
Ikr 🤣
LOOOL
👍🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ya wanna give 'em tha benefit of the doubt , but that car, clothes , puffery and unctuousness can have ya scratchin' yer head. 🤔🤨
How can you have people in your "church" wearing a bally????
lol
Bro why not they hardcore the pastor is the connect
The Dress code was 'Come as you are'
Dippins on Dippins - Praise & Gully bop - Easter Dumplins - Rum & rasclaaaart honey it’s a ghetto church my ninja
Football Maniac it’s church that’s no what you do idgaf if your pablo Escobar
Young dizz is not trynna change he just wants that free studio 😂😂😂
M Trade 12 1/2 years
@Mike Hunt 🤣🤣🤣
HE DROPPED JESUS AND THE SOAP
😂😂😂
@@jamaabdi2285 😭😭😂😂😂😂
2 weeks later my mans gone n got 12 year sentence 😭
Who??
Young dizz
So sad
well maybe if he had listend to the pastor he wouldnt have
quben alex exactly
I feel like this church needs to distinguish between building entrepreneurs and building faith within the people that go here. Getting drug dealers and young people in gangs to change their ways should be applauded but the gospel is really not what they are selling to these young people in my opinion, they're selling a lifestyle. So what I feel needs to be done is have spac nation church and have a spac nation organisation. One of which helps people come to Christ and then the other can be a separate organisation that helps people who have taken a wrong turn in life become entrepreneurs. Not bashing spac nation it just seems like there's too much going on and christianity isn't the primary focus.
Completely agree
This is a very very good point
Very underrated comment 👏🏽
FACTS
Honestlyyyy
Bally’s in church? Gospel drill? Flaunting wealth in church? It will NEVER make sense to me. This church is filled with false prophets. 1 Timothy 6 says it all really, especially 1 Timothy 6:10 “For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.”
How else can you introduce religion to the youth of today? They need to enjoy being there. I’m not about following everything said in the bible. Things change, generations have different ways of doing things it’s as simple as that. It’s just such a close minded way of thinking about things
S kay 1) 1 John 1:6-7 - that is a fair pint, but it is ironic and quite paradoxical that people are wearing clothing that they would’ve worn to go and commit crimes in the house of the Lord. It shows they still haven’t fully let go of that lifestyle. 2) do you go to the church or? The leaders of the church literally all wear red bottoms and lots of designer. The pastors car? Have you not seen their music videos? Pls, as someone who has visited that church, I know what I’m talking about. 1 John 2:6, Micah 6:8
Jack McLaughlin I’m aam part of the youth of today, and I can easily say there are many ways of introducing religion to the youth of today. I respect how they’re getting the youth off of the streets, I’m more concerned about the false teachings. Yes, things change, don’t you think God already anticipated that? Biblical teachings, when perceived correctly can still be applied to our generation. Deuteronomy 8:6. You might choose to not follow the bible, but for me my walk with God has come leaps and bounds from reading the bible and praying that God allows me to read it with understanding and open mindedness.
Flowerrose121 wow I didn’t know about that, thank you for shedding light on it I’d only heard about a few other scandals. I pray that the truth will come out, I definitely believe they are getting their money in illegitimate ways. 1 Timothy 6:5 “To them, a show of Godliness is just a way to become wealthy”
@@kd4465 They might _also_ be wearing what they consider their best. They think they're clean as the board of health! I, nor anyone but them and the Lord knows what's in their hearts. God will meet us where we are, right _here,_ right _now._ If they truly want to worship in spirit and truth, God will move on their heart, and create a brand new being. Their young both in earthly age and in Christ.
So tell me when BBC 3 is making a Doc about black kids going to Uni at 12 like Akala stated?
When will they make a documentary about black people taking the piss out of other black people going to uni. I don't believe white people have a problem with that.
Lorie L you lot are deluded
Forex guy Loves Jesus africans
Shut up
Church donations must be paying well if he can afford a car like that!
Steve Knight just like how the American televangelists can afford private jets
He has his side hustles but still pastors who drive supercars ..? Just not my thing
People have jobs too uno
“Those who say they live in God should live their lives as Jesus did.”
1 John 2:6
Big Lurch Aka Looney2 ECC I hope you gained something lol
Using materialistic things to attract young souls🤦🏾♀️
Tiana Walker so true
Too bad there’s people like “Don’t force your religion on us”
levner brown ha
Do u see another way of attracting them doe?
@@Trickynuh My thoughts exactly, like Jesus uses peoples past (mistakes) and creates purpose from it, so obviously, He will use ex gang-members.. bc they know exactly what got them into that lifestyle (lack of opportunity & hunger for success/freedom) and now they use it as a tool to point the lost towards Jesus (true peace & freedom).
God gave everyone unique ways to reach the souls.. just because it is unconventional to some doesn't make it pseudo or wicked. God loves all His children and he knows how each of their hearts are and how to engage them. For some it's peace, others it's financial stability -- (what most risked their freedom and lives to get out in the streets).
I pray that they continue to reach each soul and ignite their purpose for God's glory. Yes, it is evident that the material stability is what attracts them.. we can all think of something that first attracted us to God (find a husband or receive healing for an illness, or something else that is from this material world), but after maturing in faith we gained awareness and transformation on WHO He truly is, with time and patience ****through relationship with Jesus & the church community****, God reveals Himself more and more, and we mature and stop expecting blessing, but learn what it means to be a Christian... to give and guide others to life and peace... so yeah it documentary wont go into depth... but I CHALLENGE those who want to judge and assume.. maybe look up a sermon from the church and see if they are preaching the true gospel of freedom from the enslavement that this world oppresses (ESPECIALLY MINORITIES) into what feels like a trap of sin... at least they are doing something about it.. instead of complaining on the internet.. for those who aren't satisfied, how many souls did you win for Jesus this week? ? ?
Young Dizz was sitting there like he was in the HeadTeachers Office😂
My man looks like someone's auntie
Isn't he in jail?
That's young dizz fr 😂
@@imposter-982 yh he is in jail, the check his Instagram he explains why. I guess SPAC couldn't save him lmao😂
@step with AV. 😂😂😂 good 1 bro hahaha
Keep God out of this, this is a money rehabilitation centre not a Church.
MEbeing ME 😂😂😂😂😂
Right! Like what church hands out 30k to a man
The are not born again Christian that’s why
It's a booming business I must say...how much cut he gets...m sure there must be some good deal...
Gives them hope.
This is actually ridiculous, bye..
agree
They been exposed
@@smokeyanimate3564 where and how
I bet people inside that church will judge you if you dont come in with one designer item.
They will judge you if you haven't robbed or sold drugs in wouldn't be suprise is this pastor him self doing some doggy staff
They don’t judge ngl
William De Freitas bollox
Bennyelly Elly 100%
lol preach
Lool Young dizz keeps his shades on the whole time then once he’s out in the sun he takes them off😂
3 6GOD 3DIZZ 3D
Ace 123 😂😂😂
@a one wtf lool
Eye contact is soul contact
Geedup Gb but who says he has a soul??🤣
*The Gospel of Jesus Christ is enough.*
Jesus Christ never required any additional extras in order to draw men unto Himself. And he associated with prostitutes, tax collectors, and even hung on a cross next to thieves.
Yet the messages from this documentary seem so contradictory to Biblical facts.
The true Gospel of Jesus Christ doesn’t require cars/ clothes/ material wealth/ balaclavas etc to win souls for the kingdom.
SPAC nation - please understand this.
*The Gospel of Jesus Christ is enough.*
Nothing needs to be added to it. And nothing needs to be subtracted from it.
Selah.
💯🙌
I dont trust these people at all at all at all.. this is a 419! Don't get involved
Seconded
#1 Tip to escaping jail!?
Be a real person get a job , earn a living stop feeling LIke the world owes you something..
💪👍👌
LJ Jackson it takes a village to raise a child
How difficult is it to get a job once you have a criminal record? Clearly the system doesn’t work or so many people wouldn’t feel like they have to turn back to the illegal life.
Much easier said than done
LJ Jackson That’s not true man I live in America in my city I applied and called almost everywhere I could work I’m 18 and I still haven’t gotten a job. I have no criminal record at all either at 16 I worked at McDonald’s though
How easy is it for you to say that?
Wait...is a member of SPAC Nation a BBC journalist or something?
hahahahaha
It’s Swiss from So Solid
lol - these people are DOUBLE FACED !!
““No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon [money, possessions, fame, status, or whatever is valued more than the Lord].”
MATTHEW 6:24 AMP
Opinions on Spac aside half these man need to deal with the trauma of their experiences, walking around with PTSD & other undiagnosed conditions. The church should encourage seeking professional help alongside their redemption if that's the route they're trying to go down
Real talk
Facts
But what if they're being manipulated and used financially...
mzilikazi96 what does professional help do it just reinforces that you aint shit🤦🏿♂️
@@elpresidente6734: If that's been your experience of "professional help", then it hasn't really been "professional", has it? Of course you'll have some bad professionals but there are many out there who genuinely want to improve lives of people who've been through difficult situations, and to help people come to terms with things they've lived.
Omg this church again I'm not sure how I feel about this
First thing i said 😂😂😂
Defo something funny about it
what do you mean "this church again"..? have you seen that bullshit b4?
If they take one gang member off the streets in the long run how man lives does that save and how many more prevented from being affect by tragedy FEEL THAT
How long before all those road man in the church start hating one each other and the inevitable happens. All those youths are just there because they are enticed by the shine and once the shine is not equally distributed then plots will be made.
stop hating let them do their thing
Better have that fkfglobal
Pastor takes the tithes(10% of income that goes to church) and u ppl are clueless 🤧🤧☠
@@Brixtonfrog that's not how a tithe works
@@ayomilekanadegunwa563 if ur gnna take the time to comment you might aswell explain how it works then🤷🏾♂️
who's here after young dizz got released from jail
Man was trying to straighten his bed but was still creasing it at the same time 🤦🏾♂️
Didn't hear the name of Jesus once! lol
test cch lol 14:23
Ok once then
@@ricoszn7146 its routine to say the name of 'Jesus' in a prayer out of habit. But this documentary is about saving lives and bringing people to Christ and Jesus is not mentioned as the reason for bringing people to the gospel? How Sway? How? loool false Prophets!
@@testcch6629 he never asked
Hafid Moalim the father, the son and the holy ghost are all god
Showing up to church in that car.... ok
to be fair they did say he made millions in property consulting
Shiro hi Light the second money becomes heavily involved in faith is the second you know it’s corrupt.
@Nick Fitzpatrick That Pastor is nothing but a businesses man and this is just another businesses venture forhim.
@Nick Fitzpatrick His motives are questionable, what if he wasn't offering materialism to these young impressionable boys how else would he try and engage with them? Once he has them in the clutches of his church it means bigger rewards for him in donationations.
@Nick Fitzpatrick That Pastor is doing many of them a disservice because their minds are set on materialism and at the end of the day whatmatters most is your health and state of mind.
God bless these young people and may they get deeper into the true gospel, true doctrine, true Word. Rejoicing that they're coming out of gang life (less stabbings, shootings, drug dealing.. less sinning). Glory to God
People don’t know Nigerians. To them having a successful church is a pop star sort of lifestyle. You are a celebrity, In the limelight. They thrive off it in all ways. Film star lifestyle. Its creed because its going beyond that lifestyle of being just comfortable.
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We’re not all the same plz stop stereotyping people
Not all Nigerian or African churches are like that.
@@evazela it's not all
Not all Nigerians are Christian lol
Half of Nigeria is Muslim
Do a drill and repent...2 man on the opp block 24 prayers we’ll leave him blessed
I swear my man looks like an usher !!!
I may criticize their methods, but they're doing more than the government with their ocassional TV interviews but that's it.
There helping people become the capitalist class who make the problems
But its about the gospel , not once did they talk about how Jesus saved their life that's the gospel they're meant to share instead the say" spac nation saved me" you're not saved by a church you're saved by Jesus Christ and that's the only way you can be saved any other then that's blasphemy and false doctrine
If you knew what was really going on you be sick
@@TheSanctifiedBabe jesus is a myth
@@TheSanctifiedBabe: To be fair (and I don't them much) what you've mentioned (in isolation) doesn't necessarily mean they're all bad. Them saying "SPAC Nation saved me" may not necessarily refer to spirituality in itself*, but more to the fact that before meeting them they were involved in things that weren't the best, and since encountering the group they've decided to stop being involved in such activities. (* Yes, you could argue that they should be more spiritual, but at the same time they seem quite smart and probably know that people tend to switch off when you just start off like that)
Junior looks like a nitty not a dealer
Wet
Don’t get high on your own supply
LOOOOL!
These documentaries are just ridiculous. So monotonous
Agreed😂😂😂
BBC Three know what they are doing.
@@Ik.Fwego. they're lazy & there's a narrative they're trying to push
Gangs are so terrifying. This stuff needs to be more popular, more people need to know about this.
Not surprised that young dizz has been sentenced to 12 years. There was evidently no change in his character, he was there to take up seats. He didn’t seem like he wanted to change.
“opportunity to be a street pharmacist”......😭
not gona lie the streets need medical ninjutsu tbh lol
all them cars outside that pastors house and he can't even do his front garden 😂
"In September 2019"
How did this pass without someone noticing that mistake. I already can't take it seriously
If this pastor truly wanted to help his people and these young boys. He should invest in a charity and put these boys through a two year self healing program, also showing the qualities of life and what it takes to be a man. Go on trips to poverty countries, let them see how our people are suffering. Then once the program is completed. Then invest I them!!
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A pastor that drives a Lamborghini and likes to look good, is this the new redemption SCAM🤫.
Man like young Dizz looks like big Worm from Friday
I can’t believe someone thought that too. 😂
Everyone in the world should just show love to one another. Like Jesus did. If that happens, the world will be a much better place
24:07 he didn’t want smoke with Adele 😂😂😂
Imagine she rolls up on him with a big shank lmao
Who’s her after young diz is in jail for 6yrs
Mans called y.lucifer acg and he’s posted with church mandem 🤣🤣🤣
Lurking for souls 🤣
He's just there for the business opportunity.
I heard through the Grapevine that the Church is the biggest Gang
Spac nation is a cult but respect dis man's story
Is that a PS3 i see..... let’s pray for him 💔
But apparently he's out here making hella money lmfao. Even his swag was malnourished.
@@ibrushmyteethbeforeieatass9774 stawwwwpppp 😂🤣🤣🤣😭
Regardless whether this spac nation ting is good or bad I hope all these man make it out of the life especially dizz
hopefully they change,cause they all gonna end up in the same place.wasted talent man.
Amara Thakker he can change
Reminds me of Gus from Breaking Bad. Seems really dodgy
I’m not one for making UA-cam comments but as a beckton resident my whole life and growing up with alot of these guys I commend u man for what u have done..it’s not easy layin it out bare like that u man are real for that..and U represented a place I love as much as U man perfectly...the past the present and the future of beckton is all here to see...kevin I salute u and JR next time u about holla me bro
What's young dizz actually like u can brief it down I'm just a day 1 fan of his mate
16:42 THE LITTLE GIRL IN THE BACKGROUND 😂😂😂😂😂😂
As far as following the bible it’s a very dodgy church but as far as a institution to help young people get off the streets it looks like the method is working so I hope it continues to make an impact.
Let’s not be too negative let’s give some encouragement and guidance instead.
Man like young dizz do a drill and repent
Muhammad Barry like how many times did I chef him how’s he alive it don’t make sense ???
@@3Horus ducked man down on the M way coming like a mission on GTA 5
I swear my man looks like an opp !!! 🚨
As soon as i heard the pastors name I said to myself. No wonder. Nigerians will not dissapoint in living and flexing life to the max. Pastor got a Lambo
My dad wasn’t around and my mum didn’t have money so I had to sell drugs 🙄, I don’t think we can use that excuse anymore in England 🏴
BigC90 90 About dumb as hell there were gangs in the UK before ethnic people even came here in majority. There’s always been gangs no imitation of American Gangs except from music. People obviously don’t have help as there as millions in the UK below the poverty line dumbass . There are people literally going without money sitting in darkness in there flats - so if people have to make money a certain way they will. Plus These gangs a Generational things. Look at places like Glasgow etc are they imitating Americans 😒
BigC90 90 Poverty may not be like third world countries here but living on benefits barely does anything for you - Americans also live on welfare so where do we go from here ??
BigC90 90 most of those in the middle class are mainly targeted by affiliation. You could live in a nice area and be a target just by the people you hang around or area you go to school in? You can’t say a lot of people have the opportunity when there are ALOT of people who are living in council flats because they have no where to go - and sadly that’s where you see alot of the crime. If you live in a poor area chances of u turning to crime are more likely than someone in a middle class / rich area because that’s what you are more likely to see. Most of these people committing crimes are doing it because they’re broke. And when it comes to young black men it’s a disproportionate percentage of them who are targeted by police and also suffer institutional racism in the UK - so when there are no opportunity for those percentage of people what do you think they’re going to do? I’m not condoning any of it cos it’s DEFINITELY not only young black men but when you differentiate the opportunities they have compared to others - It’s not always a choice & it’s been like this for decades so couldn’t the government have helped them by now?
BigC90 90 stupid boy
In fairness the way he introduced people to his faith COULD work really well, giving people great opportunity and if genuine he deserves a lot of respect, however he’s just seems a bit shady doesn’t he??
The Young Dizz seems too proud to be perceived as violent. He wont change rn
I really don’t know if I can take this seriously. It seems like a mess for me. They may be doing great things for people but i feels there’s more to it that I’m very sceptical off. Just something off. Can’t put my finger on it
This is wonderful. I’m so glad someone is calming the violence in London.
At least a lot of them want to come out of that life. They are making moves
Something doesn’t seem right....
Something is suspect how is the pastor balling like that
steg did you not listen ?
He gets members of the church to bang fraud for him under their names so if the jobs don’t bang, he won’t get in any trouble.
Business Golden Clan he’s been rich way before spac nation tho
God tells us not to care for such material things, to not entice jealousy or be jealous
The forever cliche of trying to escape a life you constantly are rapping about... 🙄
Spac nation didn’t help young dizz man said 12 years for kidnapping and torture 💀
Yo if I see these donnies handling the bible like this one more time in gonna go on a mazza
Whats good in the hood u won’t do shit.
Wow I didn’t know London was a mini Chicago... I always held London as one the best safe place for black people in the disapora.
London actually is one of the safest and best places for black people to live. However, no matter where you live in the world, if there are areas or pockets of society where people are living in relative poverty, this usually then leads onto things like desperation, depression, single parent families, perceived lack of opportunities, hopelessness etc. Then sooner or later these areas will become a hotbed for crime. And unfortunately here in London it is usually black people who live in these types of areas hence the high crime rate.
It is safe for them, they just take the piss and create illusionary hardships and ghettos for themselves and then it becomes real and spirals out of control, they create these hellholes themselves
And now young dizz is serving a 12year prison sentence for kidnapping assault and grooming.
If they do what they do without putting the gospel in this I would actually rate it
But they're making a mockery
CB is gonna be laughing at this
Yeah 23 years in the can
CB defo got bigger fish to fry ryt now 😂😂
Laughing at how stupid he is to finally let the 6 walk about and crown Dizz the Prince of Newham
He’s probably Muslim by noe
Now
Sitting in your church on Sunday,thinking what you're gonna do Monday....
26 mins and not 1 mention of the name of Jesus this ain’t a church but a business
Bro the other guy said leave this life is the name of Jesus or jesus said it or something like that but I heard Jesus
#CTP Shadow
Where is the timestamp?
@@YoungMrD29 14:15
#CTP Shadow
He prayed in Jesus name but does not use the name of Jesus to bring people to spac. Yes I was wrong he did name Jesus (when praying) but when he speaks to youths people he does not present them Jesus he tells them about spac not Jesus. Spac is not a church but a business
@@YoungMrD29 how can it be a business but they pay the people not around
Fantastic work that you do to try and reduce the youth from being gang affiliated really respect that God bless 🙌🏾
That’s not a church it’s a gang meet and greet like what church is called spac nation
moving like the UK version of creflo dollar mans gonna be asking for a private jet soon
The devil will always give you what you want at first to trap you. The devil is not loyal he will betray you. and he never comes in looking and acting like the devil he comes in as the angel of light. Please read your Bible build your own relationship with Jesus Christ cause spiritual warfare is real.
Many people are saying SPAC is not a church, but it is a church - people go there to praise god and seek redemption. All the other stuff they’re doing to help gang members leave the gang life is a separate ordeal, but they are using religion as a guide. The pastor is making a statement that you can get the lifestyle you want by taking a different and better approach. These boy are obviously in this life because of the money and power, so why not divert that interest into something more positive and productive? The whole point is that it is working, could not care less what they call themselves. Only God can tell. I just want the violent crime outbreak in London to stop.
Respect that comment. NGL though, I myself am 50/50 on my views about Spac Nation. On the one hand what they're doing is mad positive as in they are giving gang members and those from troubled backgrounds an alternative route in life by giving them the opportunity to put their energy into the church and God and at the same provide them with legitimate business skills that can help secure their future.
HOWEVER, you have to question the motives of some of the people who are attending. I get this funny feeling that some of them are just going there to attain wealth, wear nice clothes and socialize. And we all know that's not what church is meant to be about.
BRO JUST LOOK AT THE PASTORS HOUSE 🤣😭
its like i can't get away from this church i swear,
There everywhere what happened to good old fashioned black churches
Religion is big business. Pastor Toby is picking the most manipulative and influential young men he can find to help grow his business. If he stops these young men hating and killing themselves then what’s the problem?? Because he has expensive things?? The bible is full of contradiction and has always been open to interpretation. Leave the judgement to God.
If my pastor pulls up in a lambo, we need to have a conversation. Put me on game or I'm gone!
Young dizz needs to lay off the fizzy drinks
Trust me, eyes come yellow
I'm 14, I have managed to stay out of the street by realising that money isn't worth that much, I've simply just listened to my mother because stuffing a pound of cocaine up my arse isn't worth airforces
Its easy to loose yourself in the gang life but its just as hard to leave the gang life behind. It's not something you can do with a click of a finger some gangs really don't let you leave and I'm happy these people are getting the help they need.
It's only hard bcus the 1s u love the most get noticed by the higher, and they use that love against u. They'll protect someone who's loved by every female & even makes the most evil of men smile when he walks in a room- aside from drug addiction that's the 2nd trap. Is who you love.
LOOOOOOOOL
YOUNG DIZZ😂😂😂😂😂😂
I might start my own religion it's such a great business and tax free!
How this is allowed I will never ever now.
Do you have a plan or manifesto.. you might get some funding from that Scientology gang.. :)
Just don't
SPAC Nation is doing a great job and needs to be applauded.Anyone that is criticising him should setup something better
your comment has aged like milk
I think the pastor had the right idea, by trying to help the youths..but racking up to church in a Lamborghini was unnecessary imo...
I don’t understand what’s so enticing about gang life. Apart from the quick money, what’s so fun and exciting about looking over your shoulder knowing it could be your last day? No thanks.
Head pastor with a lambo
If its not bought with church money then its okay
2 2-chicken, nandos
They clearly said he made millions being a real estate consultant.
you might might see me in a rari, old school fella, atari
I dont think its a cult, they are trying something different. Its being portrayed on wealth which is concerning but if it means less people dieng then fine.
Have you watched the exposure on spac yet
@@ygoodie5924 Yeah now I know the truth.
What a bag of pimping for 2019. This is nothing but a hustle,worse than a brexit meeting. Plus the 'Pastor/Pimp' needs a gardener.
If religion can change someones life and save life it they are doing great job
1:04 I honestly never thought I would see this guy posted
1:05 The Spirit was not touching Dizz at all 😂😂😂
Nothing can touch dizz !! Ask CB he will tell you 6 comes before 7 🚨
I'm Christian and I dont really know how I feel about this...