We Flew the Mig with Chuck Yeager
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2012
- "Mig 15 versus F-86 Sabre Jet during the Korean War was one of the classic fighter aircraft duels of all time" Zeno, Zeno's Warbird Video Drive-In www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com Don't miss our F-86/FJ2 DVD bit.ly/IPLwbM
In September, 1953, a North Korean defector handed over the first Russian Mig 15 to fall into US hands. This was a momentous occasion because the Mig had proven to be a worthy adversary for the North American F-86 Sabre in the skies over Korea.
The Mig was immediately subjected to comprehensive testing. You'll see Chuck Yeager and other top test pilots putting the Mig through it's paces and hear what they learned, along with a point by point performance comparison with the F-86. Nice footage of the Mig's armaments too.
Attentive Russian aircraft fans will no doubt pick up on the fact that some of the "faults" listed by the US test pilots - like problems with the heating & defrosting systems -- were malfunctions in this particular aircraft and not endemic to the Mikoyan bureau's design.
There’s a really vivid account of this event in Chuck Yeager’s autobiography. Highly recommend giving it a read.
At the youthful age of 95 this Chuck still gets around pretty damned good!
I watched the MIG land at K-14 on 9/21/53. Later I found the pilot to be 1st Lt No Kum Sok who took the money and came to the USA and changed his name to Ken Rowe. In the year 2000 I was able to get his email and we have been passing emails ever since. Recently, I haven't heard from him, hope he is OK. I didn't realize at that time, I was watching History in the making because it was just another day to most of us there.
Fascinating to hear about. I guess you never know when you can find yourself in the middle of history. Could you say anything about . . . how well he felt he lived the rest of his life (?) Apparently lived a long time. -- that's usually good. Married (?) Children (?) Did he pursue a career (?) Thanks . . .
Apparently five of his pilot colleagues in NK were exectuted after his defection. The gentleman is still alive.
My old man was there as well.
he was a brave man and the US was lucky to have him may he rest in peace.
He died last year at age 90 there is another interview with him I think from the 1990's. He said he worked with Chuck Yeager to familiarize the way the Mig-15 handled. They would not show him in this old film due to the times were different back then. I believe he told Chuck to watch out not to over speed in a dive might not be able to pull it out. The Mig-15 didn't have hydraulic assisted flight controls.
10 minutes of "the mig kicks the f-86's ass" followed by 1 minute of "the f-86 is better"
At 1:30, the narrator begins to list the names of the first USAF pilots to fly this Mig. My father was a squadron commander at Kimpo Air Base when this jet was flown in by the defector; in fact, he called the Mig's approach in as an alert (the Mig landed before anyone could respond to the alert). This in incorrect. The jet was kept inside a hangar at Kimpo AFB, under guard while the USA decided what to do with the hoped-for, but unexpected gift.. In his personal collection of photos, my father had several pictures of the Mig inside that hangar, and he- along with many other pilots at Kimpo, flew the jet many times before the jet was finally sent to Okinawa as described in the film. Apparently, these test flights went officially unrecorded because the jet was supposed to be impounded and kept out of sight inside the hangar as a national defense secret.
The jet wasn’t flown many times before it went to Okinawa, that is a flat out lie.
Zeno always delivers.........................awesome.
RIP Gen. Chuck Yeager
The video makes it sound like the Air Force was seriously considering giving the aircraft Back to the original owners, I find that hard to believe
it makes it sound like that because *MURICAN PROPAGANDA*
Nice vid!. Good to see Yeager in his prime.
I read in Chuck Yeager's book that the North Korean pilot was astonished to find out Yeager and the other test pilots were diving the MiG at high speed and living. They were forbidden to dive the plane.
RIP, Chuck. You will be missed.
Good test pilots and fly practically anything!
She is a beauty in US stars as well as Soviet ones. It must have been a secret thrill 2 get 2 fly this windfall
The MiG-15 was built primarily to engage in air combat at not very high altitudes for a jet. Cockpit climate controls were crude because they could be for the intended altitudes. Where the MiG excelled most was the armament. They Ruskies learned early on to take a big fucking gun to a fight....or three in the MiG-15. Those cannons could take down some big planes. But the F-86 had the better gun sights....radar assisted deflection, and that's where many a MiG pilot met their match and got blown out of the sky.
saw it back in the `80's at Wright-Pat
They gained a LOT of information when they got ahold of that plane. I'm sure that they used it against the foe and it saved a lot of American pilots lives. I'm proud of our military taking so many precautions and being able to discover the weaknesses of that aircraft.
The f 86 kill ratio of 13: 1 can be attributed to exaggeration.
Do you have more videos about Chuck Yeager?
Steering wheels are for cowards
Thank you very much for this precious video.
Small, pretty and beautiful! Like a light-weight sports car!
I felt common beautiful concept like the Fw-190.
Was this designed by German engineer in USSR, before Mikoyan and Gurevich?
That's $897,000.00 . . . in 2017 dollars. Nice.
Arbiter It could be as low as 120k but that is if you are lucky enough to buy it first
I personally shot down 69 MiGs at the MiG alley, some of them were obviously skilled Soviet pilots due to the distinctive loud Russian cursing and the heavy smell of vodka which could be heard and smelled when they bailed out. I flew my entire tour without a gun, unfortunately, otherwise I would’ve downed 9 more MiGs, without any doubt in my mind. I want to thank all my wingmen who simply turned tail and ran away whenever we got engaged by MiGs. Good times.😊
This documentary couldn't be made today. Today's audience is simply not bright enough to understand it.
The MIG 15 used a British designed centrifugal jet engine.
Not really. It used a larger by soviets improved version of Rolls Royce Nene engine. The soviets had problems with reproducing the Nene engine, as they were not capable to reproduce some alloys. The first copies of the engine had only 25 hours life-time. The licensed Nene engine was also used by americans in their F9F Panther jets.
It used the Klimov VK-1, a reverse-engineered version of the Rolls Royce Nene.
@@NickTasy it wasn't a reverse engineering, Brits sold it to Russians
Saint Onufry Yes, and then the Russians designed their own (the VK-1) based on the Nene. The VK-1 was basically a carbon copy of the Nene
@@NickTasy yep
Is this MIG still being preserved somewhere?
It is currently on display at the National Museum of the United States Air Force.
It is currently on display at the National Museum of the United States Air Force.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Kum-sok#No's_MiG-15
Uhh oh, War Thunder historians are at it again.
I'm a keyboard warrior lol
MiG-15 aces Evgeny Pepeliaev - 23 confirmed kills (most F86s)Nikolai Sutiagin - 21 downed US jetsLev Shiukin - 15 victories etc.BTW I personally knew Arcady Boitsov who had six confirmed victories, remember he was telling that the Sabres were really difficult to overtake in dive when they were escaping and that all the victories were confirmed by the wreckages only and unfortunately those damaged US jets which having left the N.Korean airspace on the way back home fell in the sea weren’t scored as victories otherwise might have had two more.
Very deadly little aircraft, good pilot training and a little luck, would knock a few sabres out of the sky.
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If you read Chuck Yeager's autobiography he has quite an enlightment about those days on Okinawa. The MIG was actually a better performer than the F-86. Basically he waxed the Sabres fanny as he put it every time.
You don't think the fact that Chuck friggin Yeager was the pilot helped? That's like comparing basketball shoes if Michael Jordan is wearing Chuck Taylors and playing me while I'm wearing whatever new sneaker is out there. The pilot will most often be the determining factor in a dogfight between two similar aircrafts.
M McLaurin80 yeah and nay on that ,Chuck wasn't God and there was pilots just as good if not better. He was in the right place at the right time. He pissed off a lot of other people. I've met the man and he can be pretty harsh. He does have a chip on his shoulder and don't threaten that chip. His best friend Bud Anderson is a total 180. Bud is the nicest gentleman you'll have ever met and a great pilot in his time. Bob Hoover was another great guy and in my books a better pilot than Chuck.
4:34 "Due to the Mig's thrust loading"? What the hell does that mean?
Power/weight ratio determines how long an aircraft can maintain a high G turn without having to unload the airplane to regain airspeed lost to increased drag. This is not necessary with fighters today and the 1/1 ratio common to these aircraft as they do not bleed energy in a turn.
@@wwthudjh What does unload the airplane mean?
the mig has a cannon: 2 × 23-mm-Maschinenkanone Nudelman-Suranow NS-23 -, which could blew off F-86 wing, but F-86 has only mgs which the mig could easy survive.
A lot of MiGs did not survive
Closed captioning had the cannons as 223 mm and 137 mm. I was trying to make sense of that!
They forgot one important difference in favor of the Mig - the Mig looks neat and symmetrical, great lines, angles and balance - its a cool looking plane. Sabre looks awkward - angled intake, bubble cockpit not flat with fusealge, tail angle not in harmony with the sweep of the lines. So the Mig wins the war!
Totally disagree. The Sabre looks sleek and smooth, while the MiG looks fat, stubby, and too angled in places. The protruding armament and antenna and the wing fences make it look like something put together in an old Soviet design bureau. Oh wait, it was! In terms ONLY of looks, it's an AK47 compared to a M14 or even M16.
fastone130 g Right, whatever. If looks are all you know, you lack any intelligence. Appearance is irrelevant in a dogfight. The F-86 had a 10:1 kill ratio against the mig. OK, let me make it simpler for you to comprehend; for every 1 F-86 shot down, 10 MIGs were shot down in return.
I love the fact that you mentioned the "bubble cockpit not flat with fuselage"....bubble canopies are MANDATORY for good all around vision during dogfights (Look up SA, or situational awareness)....rear view mirrors only go so far.
You’re one of those fucking weirdos who think Bf109s are prettier than Spitfires aren’t you? It’s a disease, an actual condition. Get help, you fucking freak!
fastone130 g you deal with it Mary and pull your panties up princess
But mig 15 is good fighter aircraft
Absolutely it was. This video never claimed otherwise.
Funny how Ami's didn't find out how to work with ventilation and pressurization correctly...
F35! Kilroy was here!
let's see they were ready to give it back to the rightful owners but they changed all the gauges over to...hmmm
When this film was made of course they would say the Mig was shit. It's a propaganda film, no one could make a better anything than american know how.
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wtf
Serene Potato ahahahahahaaaaaaaa
you fell for it
Jacob bam No I didn't, I speak fluent Japanese, so I knew what bukkake meant...
Serene Potato damnit
British Engines
I'll never understand why we (the UK) gave the USSR the Rolls-Royce Nene engine and told them "don't use it for any military purposes, ok?". Which they promptly ignored and cloned. This plane would have been nothing without it.
I'm sure the Russians would have caught up eventually, but would it have been in time for the Korean war?
That is not true. Initially, British scientists were given access to knowledge and American facilities.
"The Americans increased their effort rapidly and soon outstripped the British. Research continued in each country with some exchange of information. Several of the key British scientists visited the USA early in 1942 and were given full access to all of the information available."
better clime better turn better sealing of operation same speed better acseleration = mig-15 > f86 period.13:1 kill ratio is unofficial as the Russian side say'd it's 4:1 in the Russians favor.One Soviet pilot killd 16 sabers 4 bombers and 3 props proven.
+Hristo Aleksandrov okay back to your day job at Pravda..and some spelling lessons
Because the Russians never lie!
Hristo Aleksandrov
Hristo Aleksandrov ... your just spreading propaganda, the mig 15
Is just another example of using a NAZI design and Mongelize it to fit a Russan need for a crude fighter plane. It had no self sealing fuel tanks just like the WWII Japanese planes that went up in smoke with few hits of the F86 Saber Jets 50 Cal machine guns.
It could be. Everyone in those days were heavy smokers and drunks! Technology advanced faster as smoking and drinking rates declined and productivity rose. The millennials have returned to being drunks and that explains why they desire urban areas, they can walk home from the bars.
MiG-15 and 17s were much better than the F-86. Better energy, speed, and weapons.
Except that they weren't
Mig 15 = F86F Mig 17 > F86F
YRK JRK Till F-86s had Aim-9s
All that meant nothing when Chinese and North Korean pilots were inexperienced, the Soviet pilots being the only saving grace to the MiG-15’s reputation. It still did nothing to lessen the 10/1 ratio in favor of the Sabre.