I’m not actually sure how loud that is at wellesley high school there are megaphone style speakers on the gym ceiling they sound even quieter than when in a classroom
The speaker strobes in the pool area are louder than in the main areas which is probably because they're set on 8 Watts (it's maximum wattage setting) and that the pool area uses reverberant materials
Yeah and pools usually have more ambient noise which is why the alarms have to be so loud Update: I just noticed that the pool area actually has red siren-like horn speakers that broadcast the voice evac message. Those are definitely much louder than the speaker strobes
Very similar general alarm message setup to the EST4 system. It’s amazing this system still works properly. I’ve witnessed first hand lots of the issues EST3 has and have plenty of experiences to share from stuff I’ve seen and stuff I experienced with the EST3 in my old middle school which has become even more of a nuisance to this day according to some sources.
@@twiff3rino28 Gamewell is one of the more garbage brands. Their stuff just barely or never works. Disappointing as the Gamewell company was one of the inventors fire alarms.
Odd choice of notification appliances! Other than obviously Siemens, I’ve seen Simplex and the Honeywell brands run the Wheelock speaker strobes, but never EST until now. Kind of strange to hear the EST3 whoop tone through a device other than a Genesis speaker strobe, though I admit I’ve never heard that message before either. To me, it almost sounds custom, maybe even read off a script due to pauses! (Then again, Some Siemens messages also have awkward pauses because they’re multiple recordings spliced together.)
I don't know if he will do the home system test videos because he probably moved out of that home and is now living by himself where he used to live with his family together
Most odd: an _Edwards_ system with _Wheelock_ signals (unless the latter are left over from a previous system. I guess the bullhorn speakers in the pool room make sense though given how big the room is & the amount of echo). Unique female message too (since Edwards' most commonly-used messages are all male). Has upgrading this system to be mass notification-capable been considered? (which would require replacing all the clear-lens "FIRE"-lettering signals for amber-lens "ALERT"-lettering ones & adding additional messages to the panel) 0:39 Huh, you don't see remote speakers too often in systems nowdays (remote horns either for that matter). 1:08 Did you drop your keys there? 1:30 Seems like that room could use some signals given the lack of system audio in it. 2:52 That poor RSS wedged under the ceiling like that... 3:36 Interesting stair layout there...(right in the middle of the hallway no less) 3:58 It was here that I realized just how short those doors & doorways are given the height of the light switches: why is that the case? 4:32 That university has an _underground_ (or at least below-ground) _gym_ huh? Interesting... 4:57 The heck was going on there with your radio? 5:05 I can't believe they have a residential carbon monoxide detector there (that's only meant for use in residential homes no less) when they could have a system-connected detector in its place that could activate the system letting _everyone_ (not just those in the immediate area of the CO) know of the CO leak & to evacuate immediately.
I don't believe replacing/upgrading the system for mass notification has been considered, however, the much newer buildings on campus have signals (speakers and speaker/strobes) that have no lettering on them and the police station's speaker/strobes say "ALERT" instead of "FIRE" (strobes are still white though), so they may be installing special devices in case they go down that road in the future.
It is most likely the est is system is original but the specs of the building required wheelock speaker strobes or the installer company just bought wheelock speaker strobes for the system which kinda makes sense why they would since their higher quality then the genesis and integrity speaker strobes.
@@captainchris2016 To me it makes no sense at all having Wheelock signals on an Edwards system since Edwards has their own NAs to use on their systems (thus they don't need another manufacturer's like Wheelock's).
Speaker strobes are always too quiet. You have to place more closer together. So more expensive too. Not worth, standard horn strobes will always be better.
Technically wrong considering the advantages a voice system has over basic horn/strobes: Can be used to warn of more than just fire, including natural disasters, chemical spills, general emergencies, etc. Can be used to directly address building occupants to let them know what's going on & what action they should take Can be used to evacuate only one section or floor of a building at a time, to help avoid clogging exit pathways Can be used to play music during normal operation, thus eliminating the need for a separate music system to be installed
My school does a good job with its voice evac system. Loud enough to get your attention but not enough enough to scare you. But the messages should be louder. Depends on how the system is configured and what messages are used.
NEW PALTZ! I found this video randomly and I’m a student at this campus! so crazy I crossed paths with this and now I know what alarms are used !
Nice as always!
0:53 holy crap that sounded insane! Gotta love EST whoop
I’m not actually sure how loud that is at wellesley high school there are megaphone style speakers on the gym ceiling they sound even quieter than when in a classroom
@@michaelgrahamwongacutemadnessthat’s prb just bc you are further away from them than the ones in the classroom
Speakers, strobes, and speaker strobes = I like this system
The speaker strobes in the pool area are louder than in the main areas which is probably because they're set on 8 Watts (it's maximum wattage setting) and that the pool area uses reverberant materials
Yeah and pools usually have more ambient noise which is why the alarms have to be so loud
Update: I just noticed that the pool area actually has red siren-like horn speakers that broadcast the voice evac message. Those are definitely much louder than the speaker strobes
Just like my high school minus the notification apliances
Love the wheelock speakers and one more thing why is the doorways so low LOL!!! 🤣
Very similar general alarm message setup to the EST4 system. It’s amazing this system still works properly. I’ve witnessed first hand lots of the issues EST3 has and have plenty of experiences to share from stuff I’ve seen and stuff I experienced with the EST3 in my old middle school which has become even more of a nuisance to this day according to some sources.
My middle school had problems with their Gamewell system from the 2000s. I guess quality isn't what it used to be...
@@twiff3rino28 Gamewell is one of the more garbage brands. Their stuff just barely or never works. Disappointing as the Gamewell company was one of the inventors fire alarms.
Cool! I like these Wheelock Speaker Strobes!
Kindaa comedic how some actual voice evac messages used in real fire alarm systems in service say "A fire alarm has been reported"
I love this voice evac it’s also female interesting it’s Wheelock speaker strobes!!
0:58, love the echo.
I have seen a couple EST systems with Wheelock but I have seen more Simplex systems with Wheelock devices.
That is because Wheelock devices are the only other brand that are listed to be used on Simplex panels.
Fire alarm drills are very important. Always practice in case of a real fire
Odd choice of notification appliances! Other than obviously Siemens, I’ve seen Simplex and the Honeywell brands run the Wheelock speaker strobes, but never EST until now. Kind of strange to hear the EST3 whoop tone through a device other than a Genesis speaker strobe, though I admit I’ve never heard that message before either. To me, it almost sounds custom, maybe even read off a script due to pauses! (Then again, Some Siemens messages also have awkward pauses because they’re multiple recordings spliced together.)
@@djijspeakerguy4628 You are correct, it is a custom message!
I don't find it odd to see wheelock devices on an est system, I see it all the time.
0:53 RIP your hearing Headphone users with your volume at 100% and possibly weatherdan882002
Are u gonna do home system test soon? Kinda missed ur home system test I love those videos
I don't know if he will do the home system test videos because he probably moved out of that home and is now living by himself where he used to live with his family together
Most odd: an _Edwards_ system with _Wheelock_ signals (unless the latter are left over from a previous system. I guess the bullhorn speakers in the pool room make sense though given how big the room is & the amount of echo). Unique female message too (since Edwards' most commonly-used messages are all male).
Has upgrading this system to be mass notification-capable been considered? (which would require replacing all the clear-lens "FIRE"-lettering signals for amber-lens "ALERT"-lettering ones & adding additional messages to the panel)
0:39 Huh, you don't see remote speakers too often in systems nowdays (remote horns either for that matter).
1:08 Did you drop your keys there?
1:30 Seems like that room could use some signals given the lack of system audio in it.
2:52 That poor RSS wedged under the ceiling like that...
3:36 Interesting stair layout there...(right in the middle of the hallway no less)
3:58 It was here that I realized just how short those doors & doorways are given the height of the light switches: why is that the case?
4:32 That university has an _underground_ (or at least below-ground) _gym_ huh? Interesting...
4:57 The heck was going on there with your radio?
5:05 I can't believe they have a residential carbon monoxide detector there (that's only meant for use in residential homes no less) when they could have a system-connected detector in its place that could activate the system letting _everyone_ (not just those in the immediate area of the CO) know of the CO leak & to evacuate immediately.
I don't believe replacing/upgrading the system for mass notification has been considered, however, the much newer buildings on campus have signals (speakers and speaker/strobes) that have no lettering on them and the police station's speaker/strobes say "ALERT" instead of "FIRE" (strobes are still white though), so they may be installing special devices in case they go down that road in the future.
@@weatherdan882002 Ah okay.
It is most likely the est is system is original but the specs of the building required wheelock speaker strobes or the installer company just bought wheelock speaker strobes for the system which kinda makes sense why they would since their higher quality then the genesis and integrity speaker strobes.
@@captainchris2016 To me it makes no sense at all having Wheelock signals on an Edwards system since Edwards has their own NAs to use on their systems (thus they don't need another manufacturer's like Wheelock's).
@@TheCarson116 its the exact same idea as simplex, simplex has their own avs, but sometimes use wheelock
Speaker strobes are always too quiet. You have to place more closer together. So more expensive too. Not worth, standard horn strobes will always be better.
Speakers strobes can be adjusted. You know that right?
you would be surprised how loud a voice evac system can be if its setup correctly
Technically wrong considering the advantages a voice system has over basic horn/strobes:
Can be used to warn of more than just fire, including natural disasters, chemical spills, general emergencies, etc.
Can be used to directly address building occupants to let them know what's going on & what action they should take
Can be used to evacuate only one section or floor of a building at a time, to help avoid clogging exit pathways
Can be used to play music during normal operation, thus eliminating the need for a separate music system to be installed
My school does a good job with its voice evac system. Loud enough to get your attention but not enough enough to scare you. But the messages should be louder. Depends on how the system is configured and what messages are used.
@Marc Leslie Couldn't have said it better myself.
4:57 what happened here?
If you mean the funny sound, it was the sound of the slow whoop over the radio when my colleague tried to radio me.
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