Be a Scouting Expert on FM
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
- Football Manager is about the players. Scouting is how you typically acquire them, so I would say it’s kind of important. The fact that I haven’t made a scouting video for FM20 yet is certainly a mystery, but it had to be time. How to scout from start to finish. From hiring the staff to setting instructions to filtering through incoming scouting reports.
If you are interested in things like “the best place to find cheaper wonderkids” or “how to scout while poor” I have made these videos - check them out in my feed! It’s why I had avoided making a scouting video for so long, I have always been dancing around it. It was a recent realization that so many people avoid setting scouts themselves. I’m just trying to change lives out here. Enjoy!
Much love,
FM Senpai
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Thanks to you, Zealand, I’ve become a better man; a better husband; a sensual lover and a loving father. And it’s all down to your fm tips. Cheers from GB.
I second that!!
😂😂😂 brilliant
Lmfao 😂
you have fm and still manage to have a wife and kids?
Hahaha
The sad thing is that the people who didn't watch Zealand record this live will never know how many takes that chair fall took.
I think he should have done the reverse film thing to come back up.
Love all of these. You’ve helped enhance my game so much
Actual data analysis is really helpful in signing players in real life
It is really under represented in the game and the stats that you can get for a player is really limited
You see channels like Tifo Football and how you can use data to find gems is surprising
I hope in FM 21 they revamp this
Please can you do one on Affiliate clubs?
The people asked, and the man provides, what a legend
What I do is manually at the start of my career is to look for players based on the position and attributes I need and filter to see how wanted they are from other clubs and negotiate for them.
I found this channel yesterday I must say I like it. Keep it up Zealand.
Questions! 1 - How does asking for scout reports interfere with the long term scout assignments? Does it really drag someone back from Brazil to watch someone in England for a game?
2 - Does having no assigment allow a scout to get through that backlog pipeline faster?
I'll start by answering no 2. So when ever you click on "get scout report" you idle scouts are those that gets the report done because they currently have no assignment.
Linking that with question 1; when your scouts all have assignments and you click on "get scout report" on a player, that player is added to a waiting list until a scout is free.
Go to "scouting/assignments/scout priorities" this will show you all the players that are currently being scouted and you can move a player to the top of the list so the report cones in faster and you don't have to wait for all the other players to be scouted first
For those who weren't there for the live stream, it took sooo many takes to get his chair to actually give way xD
Scouting's the one thing that actually get, still gonna watch this video and inevitably find out I'm doing it completely wrong
Zealand, you are my Senpai! After listening to the tips you gave on scouting on your Twitch channel I overhauled my scouting. Hiring scouts with knowledge of Africa and Central & Eastern Europe to try and find cheap wonder kids and it has taken probably about a year in game but it starting to pay off. I've just signed a 16yo attacking midfielder from Liechtenstein with 4 star potential who was on non-contract terms with a club in Liechtenstein. All I've had to pay is a 19K signing on fee and his basic wages.
Someone has to cut a compiliation from your intros. It would be magnificent.
Reece! This would be a great video for your channel!
Absolutely love these videos
First FM was 2018, which I played but not really properly and let the game carry me most of the way
Next one was 2020 and I thought fuck it I need to take this shit on, so these videos are super super helpful, and it's so much easier that you're entertaining to watch 😅
Keep them coming!
You can pretty much just leave your chief scout to do all of that by leaving him in charge, and then just manually send the scouts out on the same searches by clicking on the focus and then making short term assignments, assigning scout to search specified areas for the players based on the same criteria you used, and the chief scout automatically assigns the best scout to do the job. If you want Columbia scouted he assigns the scout with the most knowledge of Columbia, so you don't have to look and find which one it is before giving the assignment.
That way you don't have to deal with all the other micro managing with your data analysts etc. Unless you want less playing and more micro managing with your game.
Also since you didn't mention them, Croatia, Slovakia, Czech republic, and Serbia are great places to find talented players on the cheap that are not restricted by the foreign player rules of say Spain and Italy. After finding that one out I always make sure to turn those leagues on at the beginning of each save. Also if the scouting report is below a 75 I don't even bother taking a look unless they are in the 16-19 age range. Everything ranging from 75 to 85 goes into a separate short list, then everything 85+ goes into a separate shortlist, and the youth players go into a separate one as well. And then when the transfer window comes around I have a list of players that I can browse through to see which player fits my needs the best.
Having spent the past 2 seasons with Chesterfield in the Sky Bet Championship; My primary field of scouting is for sustainability in said league (As well as moving forward).
We play 46 god damn games in the league alone, never mind Fa cup, Carabao cup etc.
As you have eluded before in one of your videos, (And by watching Leeds - Take me home (Amazon), it is a VERY expensive league considering it's not top tier.
Don't really know where I was going with this point but, I need to balance the books, AND have a BIG depth chart to keep player turnover for fitness etc.
As ever, awesome video, keep em coming, can't wait for your fm21 videos :)
Lyl from the U.K
When you stay up until 2 am twice to see it made and the end product
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I swear these intros are getting better and better
only 5 min in the video and the first thing I learned had nothing to do with scouting but that there is an option to filter only realistic staff members for your reserve and under 18 team. That will make it so much easier looking for good reserve staff by myself.
How do you filter the staff that will like to join your team???
must of my searches comes with staff that dont want to come... :'(
Your definitely the best FM youtuber
I'm a huge fan of the Offer Trial. Especially with low budgets.
Getting a data analyst report is important when you're not sure about 2 very similar players to sign. You could find out that maybe one player has a way better conversion rate than the other one
@@williamcross210 oh yes, I'll blame that on autocorrect
I had no idea how any of this worked until you mentioned the Take Control option... Thanks!
You are a legend in the FM community. U have sorted my saves out no end. Stay safe pal. We need u to lead us. Plus ur funny to boot
Zealand, your videos are amazing. Thanks for making me a passionate fan of Football Manager. Keep them coming!
Zealand, Director of Football is also great of finding players. Can ask him for regular transfers, loans, expiring contract and free transfer players. Much useful on lower clubs. Need to have high attributes for Ability, Potential and Negotiating. Try do a video for that.
The one I’ve been waiting for! Great work again!
enjoying more and more your videos... good info, good jokes... pleasant person
Scouting, the most frustating and exciting part when playing FM (for me).
I remember watching the intro the rest I think I watched it don’t know at this point
I always found it was helpful to scout teams that got relegated in the major leagues, cause you can pick up bargains. In one of my saves Toulouse got relegated from French Ligue 1 and transfer listed their entire squad. I was able to sign 2 18YO's, that my scouts gave 5 star ratings and they went on to be crucial players for me (In a Bielefeld team that won 8 straight Bundesliga titles).
18:35 if you want to try that pronunciation again, its ver (which you did correct) ijs ( pronounce it as "ice" , this sound is almost impossible for people unfamiliar with Dutch) and then donk (which you nailed). Oh and btw, you are named after a Dutch province as well. Just a fun fact imo.
I somehow just noticed why I recognize the faces you have. They're NHL players.... I feel dumb.
Could you please make a guide on mentoring players? Big fan btw.
I already did this if I remember correctly
@@ZealandonYT Ok, thank you very much.
ua-cam.com/video/VVk6XlUyWZE/v-deo.html This is it.
Scouting a specific match can sometimes be used to unsettle a player you want. This works best when he plays for club with less reputation then yours. The presence of scouts might unsettle him if you already showed interest, and make him more likely to want to leave, or at least prevent him from signing a new contract. Not scientificly proven, but it can also be a good test, to see how good he performs under pressure.
36 seconds in and you deserved a like already
When are Reece's videos coming out on his channel? I've went and subscribed anyway 👍
Won’t be too much longer! - just got a few hurdles to jump and we will be good to go. Thanks for the sub!
@@ReeceTheEditor Sounds good! Look forward to it.
Video starts at 2:32. You're welcome.
You forgot the time length section. I normally assign them to 'ongoing' too... Mainly because I send them each to their own region around the world. This way it just keeps looking for wonderkids all the time. (Obviously after the first 3-5 years in a club)
Thanks for your video! 'ijs' in 'Verlijsdonk' has to be pronounced as 'ice'. Greetings from the Netherlands :)
Awesome work
Subscribed because of that intro..
*Rips off Mask* It was ME the whole time!
You got the best intros. Lol
Love the intros!!!
"I am me" was actually really funny
I’d love a video on interviews for a new club. What to say and what not
while not learning a plethora of new things, I enjoy your videos the most because of your personal touch of humour
oh wow you actually used "plethora" too in this exact video hahahah
I don't have a Youth Scouting Program avaliable. Only the options on the left side
I didn't know about how to set a package, I think on one save I'd even put no package to rely on scouts only and couldn't work out why I couldn't see world famous players on the player search
Great video Zealand! Have one question though, how about Duration of the scouting? Is this relevant? Should it be "Until Finish", "Ongoing" or set time frames, like 1 month? Are there benefits on any of the choices? Thank you
That depends. "Until finished" is discouraged imo. They just scout for a while and stop. If you want, for example, for a scout to just keep scouting Germany for prospects, use ongoing. But, for example, if you want a new Goalkeeper and you need it quickly, use a certain timeframe.
@@Roscododger Thank you, for your explanation. It helped me understand better the scouting duration...
i found whenever i have players on trial they instantly get offers from other clubs so when managing a small club who prob can't compete with those offers i find them to be more detrimental
Wouldn't a cool feature be to retire as a manager and your character might go on to become a loan manager, or data analyst, or coach, somewhere else in the save
If you're a few years into a save and want regens then I can't recommend Peru highly enough, there are so many fantastic cheap players around every save, I go in and look around the teams at the start of every season and scout anyone under the age of 20, obviously there will be a lot of duds too, but you'll find a lot of good players in there. Scotland is also quite good too, again the players are just so cheap, you should be able to pick them up at almost any team
I hate FM but you sir are fantastic
Congratulations on the `Verlijsdonk´, im Dutch.. our pronunciations are horrible and I would be very proud if I were you! For a non Dutchy, great interpretation :D
Was such a pog stream bro
Good intro👏
Great video as always! Also your intros are great, dont ever stop doing them!:D
So a question if anyone can help me. How to prevent my director of football to keep sending me every single transfer news about every single player that I have ever scouted in the past in my inbox? I got like 20 news in inbox almost every time I continue, especially during transfer window.
Not sure what that is. If they're in your shortlist, they will send you updates on that player. Go in Staff>Assignmets>Scouting and it says "When scouting a player, shortlist him (for 1 week, 1 month etc.). If you turn that off, they shouldn't be added to your shortlist and if you clear your shortlist, you shouldn't get updates on them. Hope this helps.
@@Roscododger Ohhh I owe you big time! Couldn't find a solution anywhere and it was really annoying. My spacebar was hurting as well:D I had It set to add them on shortlist indefinitely so whole world of them in my shortlist default shortlist. Thank you!
@@1grobare No worries mate.
Another great video. Did you mention the ongoing option?
If I didn't, it's there! lol
Why Don't I have the create new assignment button?
3:56 it was this momen he knew he fucked up
Don't know if you already did it before, you can you make a video about those red flags players could have like injury prone and stuff like it? Just to know how bad can those really be, maybe some sound bad but actually don't change much
im not gunna lie i've only ever owned Fm Mobile but watching this channel is making me want to go buy the PC version lol im getting the itch
Hie Zealand hope you're good. Could you please make a video about player traits and which is best suited for each position and role. And also for respective attributes.
This ua-cam.com/video/Cm-y8s-UQhg/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/V8k1D4Y92IU/v-deo.html should help.
i have to say, the best tip here is actually the offering literally every decent free agent a trial.
players that initially deny your advances, will beg you to employ them once they've arrived on trial. it must be an exploit. it's as if club reputation suddenly means nothing😂
Hey dude. Since your comment is the newer i found here, i d like to ask you something cause i m desperate to find a solution. I control both options of scouting and assigned every scout to a nation/region. I have 25 scouts. None of them returned with a young player recommendation. or many recommendations in general. Assignments last for months , i get 4-5-6 reports and always estimated time is N/A. Unless i stop them , i think they would never end. Moreover the country that a scout is assigned doesnt even show up in his knowledge even after months. What the f**k am i doing wrong?
@@anastasiostsaousidis5719 damn son i have no idea. i'll be honest i rarely sign a player my scouts have found. i usually poach as many wonderkids on intake day as possible (separate video for that lol).
and i genuinely spend hours searching using the player search and looking at youth teams across my loaded leagues.
it's hit and miss buddy, everyone has their own methods. i would suggest watching a few more videos. SI forum is good and so is fmscout website. start posting screenshots and your questions there. i am no expert, i'm just mildly autistic so i get aroused by stats😂good luck to you my friend.
@@mowvu5380 I have watched tons of videos although i m not a newbie in fm. The problem to my question was probably that i chose "until finished" in my assignments time. Instead i should use "ongoing" or specific time.And what do you mean exactly by intake day ? You scout manually all teams of your league the day that we have youth incoming? One more question . Do you know where we see our loaded leagues inside game? Because there is some time since i started it and i m not sure about some african countries so i want to check them.
How do you MANAGE to SPEAK by STRESSING EVERY SINGLE WORD? Just asking
Exactly like that actually
One scouting question I can never get a clear answer on is if newgens are generating in regions like West Africa depends on league and database settings? For example, I usually just add the recommended leagues as playable and all the rest view only with a large database. I don't mess with the custom database settings, am I wasting time if I send a scout to West Africa or do newgens spawn there regardless? Clarifications on which regions are spawning new players in that set up would be appreciated.
I always wondered, what is the difference between what you see with low presenting data and how that is different from high presenting data?
FM is built to make you succeed. You dont need any particular tips to be good at FM.
Help I keep getting players that want me to sign them. I don't know how many times I've pressed ''Discard''
They shouldn't come up again once you've discarded them unless they are in your shortlist for some reason
8:53 Enemies. I call them my enemies. So very high aggression, strength and very low ability to actually make clean tackles is high on my shopping list >.>
Lol you're saving me in quarantine
Nice shirt btw
I don't have the choice between delegating it and doing it myself. In fact I can only switch between doing it myself( but without any additional options) or let my staff do it. Help?
How I scout for wonder kids set the age 14 to 18, then potential very good and keep it ongoing.
Thanks.
I need help I have old player like Mane and Salah who are 33 and 34
How can I utilize them they are lacking in pace and acceleration
Use them in roles that don't rely on pace for example the enganche
Use them as poachers in games you expect to dominate/spend a lot of time in the opponents box. Or like Darj Azorji said, use them as playmakers (if they have the mentals and technique). Or get rid of them, as their wages are probably too high to justify their niche role in the team.
Any tips for international scouting? It's a mess and I can't seem to get to much of my national pool to be scouted
For me I can’t click the new assignments?
Once you get BIG and have 20+ scouts clicking through the list can make you burn out on the save rather quick though if you want to keep signing all the wonder kids with good stats to sell for huge profit. That’s my usual pitfall at least once the CL has been one multiple times .. how do you guys avoid that ?
Please help me, ich have some trouble to acutally see the american youth players.
I got a staff member with knowledge about the USA, but nothing shows up.
Im a doing somthing wrong?
Btw i got the worldwide scouting packet
This could be up to your database setup, if you have a database that doesn´t include those players they won´t show up no matter how you scout
@@WizoIstGott So i have to select the MLS as a playable option?
@@Szymanski52 you could also go to where it says small/medium/large database and go to custom and add players from nation players based in nation
@@WizoIstGott Where i can find this? Is it possible to do that in a running savegame?
@@Szymanski52 no that is for when you set up the database, in a running game your best bet is to add the league and hope your database is big enough to cover youth players. I just mentioned it because if you are only interested in players from a region and not interested in managing over there, adding a playable league will slow down your system way more than just upgrading the size of your database will
I agree that setting up assignments are good for longer term or more general talent scouting, but I've found that when I need to fill a position quickly, assignments are quite bad at reporting back with good recommendations in a timely manner. Too often they come back with barely any recommendations, or most of them will end up being below par or completely unattainable for your club's transfer budget / reputation. If you need a specific position quickly (in like less than 2 months), I've found using Player Search to filter and manually scouting those individual players to be much more efficient. Anyone have thoughts on this?
Yea if you have a good scouting package you can lean on sorting attributes and even though they're in a range, it'll be effective in narrowing down who to look at
3:57 it was at this moment he knew
When your scouts are looking for players, will they find players that are not in your scouting package, or will they only find players that are in the package you're paying for?
Question: How long does it take for a scout to finish scouting a place / region?
is that the same music as that chapter?
Wondering if anyone knows this - when I tried the demo, I wasn't able to turn off player attribute masking - is that a feature of the game now, or can you just not turn it off in the demo?
Holy Mackerel.
Z, we all know you pray to the FM powers anyway.
Is scout personality any important?? or can I hire balanced/unambitiuos/fickle ones with no problem??
JAJAJAJA loved the intro
did they remove the youth package in fm21?
I just started a save with vitoria guimaraes in the portuguese first division and am in the winter transfer window. Huge emphasis on developing youth and i have good depth of potential in my youth team. I dont really have enough funds to warrant a star first team signing. What type of players should i be scouting and looking to sign in the next couple transfer windows?
You said it yourself. You aren't the biggest team in Portugal, so you should be signing players Under 23 for the future. Dont spend more than 6 or 7 million on each player. Keep doing that until you start winning the league and getting in the Champions League regularly. Then you can afford to buy first team players.
Where did Jordy Verlijsdonk come from, can’t find him in my save
He’s not real unfortunately, real faces on regens pack
You got my sub. Simply to great videos to not subscribe.
I like when Fedex handles my package
Regarding scouting competitions, say if a scout is looking for players in the UK, aren't they finding players by watching matches? So if they are looking for players in the premier league is that any different from just asking then to scout that competition?
I scout a whole country so that smaller league players do not get overlooked
@@ZealandonYT thanks, but in your opinion are the scouts only using the games they watch to find players? So if for some reason I ask the scout to look at premier league, championship, league 1 and 2, reserves, youth, both cup competitions is this the same as selecting "scout england"?
Reason is that im wondering if you ask the scout to look at just a couple of specific competitions like premier league, championship, fa cup, reserves, youth instead of the lower leagues and that weird cup where premier league reserve teams play league 1 and 2 teams if this will speed up finding higher quality players as they don't have to watch more lower quality games where they are less likely to find better players? Not sure if the question makes sense but there doesn't seem to be a way to exclude certain competitions for the scout so the only other way would be to specifically tell them to only watch certain ones
Btw, thanks for the videos they are always useful and Ivre found out useful information like the stars and scouting numbers being relative to your team etc which I never knew
Anyone please? i d like to ask something cause i m desperate to find a solution. I control both options of scouting and assigned every scout to a nation/region. I have 25 scouts. None of them returned with a young player recommendation. or many recommendations in general. Assignments last for months , i get 4-5-6 reports and always estimated time is N/A. Unless i stop them , i think they would never end. Moreover the country that a scout is assigned doesnt even show up in his knowledge even after months. What the f**k am i doing wrong?
Can scouting attributes change over time?
Can someone answer this for me?
Is there any point in scouting a nation/competition if, when you started the game, you didn't select that country as playable or visible?
I tend to start as a premier League team and don't move clubs so don't bother selecting other countries at the game start as it slows down my computer. Does this make scouting other countries pretty useless?
There will still be a database of players outside the Premier League I believe but it will be small if no other countries are simulated.
Can you share you bate save? tnx
How many scouts is excessive to scout brazil?