Thx u riot for making a bunch of changes in the middle of my mid terms. The guide is a bit scuffed but it does have everything u need . Hope u all enjoy it. Sry if my voice is scuffed
i woud like to ask on runes because every pro play lethal tempo on hybrid and i know its good with E, but i just feel weaker then with PTA, aand shoud i still go cookies?
Hey nice video, I'm AP Kai'Sa player, currently, since I (unless I can just buy Luden) like to go for Too Big wand + tome x2 to get a fast W upgrade, and if I'm fed I just go Rabadon after finishing my Luden then I aim for CDR with Cosmic (safer) or Horizon, never really tried Horizon 2nd even tho it was my go to before it gets nerfed ! Cool things would have been to talk about runes, at least for the AP solo lane build bc manaflow helps having Q upgrade earlier with manamune, for someone that doesnt know it might be interesting to tell him if he wanna plays ap kai'sa
with ap kaisa. you say you sell the d blade at 13 and your long sword at 17 why not just flip it and sell you long sword at 13 and your d blade at 17 since d blade has more stats but the same ad? also with the collector build what do you turn the second pick axe into?? or do you just sell it later?
If u have more AP dps then AD dps u go AD-on hit. More AD dps then u go hybrid . If ur team as the same amount of AD and AP dps it’s up to u since both works
I hope they bring back crit kaisa soon, especially to mix stuff up a bit as its been extremely outclassed by onhit/hybrid all of s14. Also watching worlds its so boring to see this onhit/hybrid build where ppl just spam W, so praying they give kaisa some crit ratios/scalings or smth soon like crit on Q / make her autos crit harder after using E.
Manamune takes just way too long to get Q evolution lvl 10ish . Q is ur only early game dmg tool . So if u want any chance to do any dmg early on u need ER so u can get Q fast
@@alexs872 True, but isnt it a good trade off? Manamune is overall more coherent in the build and gives more damage and mana. The crit on ER is also a problem since its just a wasted stat on this playstayle.
With the 14.21 nerfs i think crit might be her main build again with collector rush into other crit items. R we gonna take pta/hob/lt tho? Ik hob is not a good rune anymore but I think for crit kaisa hob is just really good especially to burst ppl and if jungle ganks its good for follow up and get leads easier and hob might be even better now if we start rushing collector.
Feels weird cuz the nilah match up i don't feel it like one of the hardest, idk i feel like it's a skill match up or very sup reliant. On the other hand i've lost 90% of Caitlyn match up. Even tho i was otp cait and i know in what cases i win against her i just simply can't. My sup is always on counter match up agains hers
why not eclipse then ? collector anyways a bad item for Kaisa. Bcs she dont really use the crit. Like Wouldnt Eclipse into ES not a good decision, with nashors and atk speed boots? Or is that to much money wasted?=
why don't you recomend kraquen slayer? it's viable for On hit builds because of RageBlade's' passive, the damage is still the higher then statik with 2/3 itens
He said in the previous build guide that building Kraken delays Q evolve now because they nerfed the AD. Maybe that's why it's only good if you get fed early
Question: i still don't understand why you build ap on kaisa and why it does more dmg on her w. Her ad ratio on w is 135% and ap is 45%. Surely you would do more dmg if you build ad no? I thought that maybe its due to ap items giving more ap than ad items ad, but a 3 times difference? Not really
w evolved kai'sa dmg are not only the missile , its the passive , it procs the dmg for the three marks , and ofc it procs the dmg of the full passive if you proc it completely , all of this is only ap ratios , now you know :3
hey, picking kaisa up again and was wondering about experimental Hexplate. 8 sec. of bonus atk spd + move spd as a bonus for 100% gold efficient stats sounds good after core items. also makes a bit more takier and u have ult more often.
Thx u riot for making a bunch of changes in the middle of my mid terms. The guide is a bit scuffed but it does have everything u need . Hope u all enjoy it. Sry if my voice is scuffed
Starting Collector is such a Kdrama move. I remember he used to build Collector into Essence Reaver back in the day.
I remember he used to post videos. Does he still stream?
Back when building off tank Kai'Sa was still possible...
@@ArchonofAethyriussadly he hasn't been streaming much but once in a while he does on twitch, I keep following him
I will never betray my kraken this baby will always have a place in my inventory and my heart
Thanks for taking the time to make this so quickly!
Excited to see your take on her new skin, you said it was 'decent' but I would argue its one of her best skins and Im superexited to get to play it!
Ur goated for featuring a top mid build since that’s where i enjoy playing kaisa
i woud like to ask on runes because every pro play lethal tempo on hybrid and i know its good with E, but i just feel weaker then with PTA, aand shoud i still go cookies?
Hey nice video, I'm AP Kai'Sa player, currently, since I (unless I can just buy Luden) like to go for Too Big wand + tome x2 to get a fast W upgrade, and if I'm fed I just go Rabadon after finishing my Luden then I aim for CDR with Cosmic (safer) or Horizon, never really tried Horizon 2nd even tho it was my go to before it gets nerfed ! Cool things would have been to talk about runes, at least for the AP solo lane build bc manaflow helps having Q upgrade earlier with manamune, for someone that doesnt know it might be interesting to tell him if he wanna plays ap kai'sa
with ap kaisa. you say you sell the d blade at 13 and your long sword at 17 why not just flip it and sell you long sword at 13 and your d blade at 17 since d blade has more stats but the same ad? also with the collector build what do you turn the second pick axe into?? or do you just sell it later?
New to kai'sa, how do i know when to go hybrid vs ad on hit?
If u have more AP dps then AD dps u go AD-on hit. More AD dps then u go hybrid . If ur team as the same amount of AD and AP dps it’s up to u since both works
I hope they bring back crit kaisa soon, especially to mix stuff up a bit as its been extremely outclassed by onhit/hybrid all of s14. Also watching worlds its so boring to see this onhit/hybrid build where ppl just spam W, so praying they give kaisa some crit ratios/scalings or smth soon like crit on Q / make her autos crit harder after using E.
ah yes I see we're both working on Kai'sa resources (I'm on WR) during midterms, Kai'sa really is life
why dont you go manamune for AP bot?
Manamune takes just way too long to get Q evolution lvl 10ish . Q is ur only early game dmg tool . So if u want any chance to do any dmg early on u need ER so u can get Q fast
@@alexs872 True, but isnt it a good trade off? Manamune is overall more coherent in the build and gives more damage and mana. The crit on ER is also a problem since its just a wasted stat on this playstayle.
Bro what items do you build when you finish the ad build!?
Bloodthirster and GA most of the time u can also go zhonya
With the 14.21 nerfs i think crit might be her main build again with collector rush into other crit items. R we gonna take pta/hob/lt tho? Ik hob is not a good rune anymore but I think for crit kaisa hob is just really good especially to burst ppl and if jungle ganks its good for follow up and get leads easier and hob might be even better now if we start rushing collector.
Feels weird cuz the nilah match up i don't feel it like one of the hardest, idk i feel like it's a skill match up or very sup reliant. On the other hand i've lost 90% of Caitlyn match up. Even tho i was otp cait and i know in what cases i win against her i just simply can't. My sup is always on counter match up agains hers
Nilah is really skill related . But the simple fact she eat ur entire burst with one W makes her just hard to play into
@@alexs872 That's so much true.
But how do you play against caitlyn?
I am missing my lethality kaisa with glove into draktar :(
And full ad build? Team full ap need a adc heavy ad
Bloodthirster 4th and 5th can be a GA or zhonya
why not eclipse then ?
collector anyways a bad item for Kaisa. Bcs she dont really use the crit.
Like Wouldnt Eclipse into ES not a good decision, with nashors and atk speed boots? Or is that to much money wasted?=
Eclipse got nerfed tho . Or we still go for it
why don't you recomend kraquen slayer? it's viable for On hit builds because of RageBlade's' passive, the damage is still the higher then statik with 2/3 itens
He said in the previous build guide that building Kraken delays Q evolve now because they nerfed the AD. Maybe that's why it's only good if you get fed early
Delayed Q evolution. Unless ur fed , statikk will be better at reaching your spikes fast
Collector was only good on kaisa when she built crit kaisa and especially pre durability patch when it was easier to burst people.
Question: i still don't understand why you build ap on kaisa and why it does more dmg on her w. Her ad ratio on w is 135% and ap is 45%. Surely you would do more dmg if you build ad no? I thought that maybe its due to ap items giving more ap than ad items ad, but a 3 times difference? Not really
w evolved kai'sa dmg are not only the missile , its the passive , it procs the dmg for the three marks , and ofc it procs the dmg of the full passive if you proc it completely , all of this is only ap ratios , now you know :3
@@Barook so its passive dmg that is high then. Thx 👍
hey, picking kaisa up again and was wondering about experimental Hexplate. 8 sec. of bonus atk spd + move spd as a bonus for 100% gold efficient stats sounds good after core items. also makes a bit more takier and u have ult more often.
To me collector + hail of blades is THE build