Microsoft's decisions regarding their store is outright baffling; instead of taking advantage of their first party position to get ahead of the competition, they've opted for what is essentially a system supported DRM that objectively makes them the proud distributers of the worst version of games.
Their "container" doesn't allow direct interaction with GPU, it seems. It doesn't allow full control and thus no real fullscreen. However, on recent hardware, that doesn't change much in term of performance.
I'm glad they made this a segment, because this needs to be addressed. I do love the value I get out of game pass but missing features that are found on other pc launches hurts that value in my opinion.
This is pretty much the reason I gave up on Forza 7 and Gears 4. Some days they would launch fine, other days I would hit the play button and it would do nothing. Absolutely crazy.
Forza is a borrowed license. In a few years they will take the Forza games away from your library. MS is built on the "you will own nothing and be happy" principle. Steam and gog give you full game ownership. Dont need to be online to play games on those clients
Same here for Halo Infinite. The 'fix' was to mash the shortcut. Sounds odd but it works - sometimes mash for 2 secs, sometimes up to 10. Weirdest bug...
I remember once years ago my Xbox games app 'forgot' that I had Halo MCC installed. I couldn't manually uninstall it and I couldn't reinstall it. Brilliant Microsoft.
Absolutely hate the Xbox for Windows app. It's often a gamble whether or not a game will even launch - sometimes I've had to uninstall and reinstall just to fix inexplicable launch errors. And god forbid, if you ever clone your storage drive, any Xbox for Windows games installed will simply not get detected anymore. Even worse, removing the useless files (which can be hundreds of GB in size) is a massive exercise in frustration, requiring you to boot into safe mode and jump through all kinds of hoops. I would rather pay full price for a Steam/Epic version than play a free version via Xbox for Windows. That's how much I hate this app.
The Nino Kuni Rematered Gamepass version doesn't have controller icons. It just shows the description for each icon. An exception was Nier Automata that came with an improved version on GP compared to the Steam version
Surprised M$ overlooked this. Gamepass is pretty much their last chance to claw back any percentage of the gamer base so you’d think they’d make it the absolute best it can possibly be.
The DEFINITIVE SOLUTION for: Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition on PC (MS STORE), It's in a simple configuration on BIOS: (Turn OFF Hyper Thread from Processor) and Launch the game Normally.
@@alostcause4035 Doesn't have to be either or. Game Pass offers the chance to check out a game for obviously much longer than the two hour refund window Steam provides. And it's still a good value for the right audience even with all its flaws.
Steam and GOG means you own your games because you can play them offline. Also Forza is literally a license to borrow bc MS takes it away after a few years. So much for "ownership"
@@CheckmateStallioN "Ownership" implies you can transfer games and accounts between people, which Steam doesn't allow. Not sure about GOG, but at least they provide offline installers which is pretty much just as good.
This might be an issue with direct gamepass with a pc? I do pc game pass via nvidia GeForce now on shield pro and I always get the upscalers ect so different configs may vary
Started the game today...still wakes the deep. And was wondering that myself. But also I almost gave up because at maxed settings in 4k, things looked horrible. Then somehow after some time playing, the screen flickered and the settings kicked in i guess. It Must have been 1080 but it said 4k all along. So no dlss is a gamepass thing and not an nvidia driver issue?
Good for you guys in highlighting it. Microsoft are doing nothing to show gamers they care about this that I can see. It's embarrassing. They are doing so many things right and the recent showcase was amazing, but how can you get excited about games on GamePass day one, when they might be gimped versions??
Chinese room didn’t say they’re adding all upscalers, only dlss is confirmed, they’re investigating fsr but are ‘unable to commit to fsr implementation’ 👎
Git Gud developers that goes for game makers getting a better understanding of the wingdk but also for MS to make sure their bolted on walled garden App Store is actually functional and offer help to those that want to develop for it! This is a both sides problem!
By default any gamepass PC version is just a console version on PC, with all the certs it has to do for xbox, not dedicated like other single platform stores.
100%. When I tell people I need to run a VM with a second copy of Windows to have notifications on my second monitor they think I'm joking. No really, this OS is that awful. They'd rather make literal spyware than a toggle to switch which monitors receive notifications. If only people knew HOW BAD it actually is.
Linux does what Windon't. MS a huge software corp cant even get their shit together and write proper windows updates that dont conflict with drivers and other software
@@steel5897 I refuse to update from Windows 10 to 11. Support for my sound card in two different PCs, ends with Windows 10. It's going to get worse, once they cut support for W10.
This is my biggest gripe with game pass. I wanted to play this with DLSS. I have game pass. I had to sail the high seas just to get the features that should have been present from the start. It was soo dumb to go the WinGDK route for game pass.
To play sea of stars in game pass i had to reset, uninstall, reinstall update reset the Xbox app and Xbox service like 10 times, until finally worked. Such bullahit
This reminds me of Worms WMD online multiplayer. I couldn't play with Steam friends using the game pass version from antiquity. I had to buy the newer Steam version.
Diablo 4 is missing XeSS for Gamepass too. Warhammer Darktide is probably the only exception. All upscalers are there. Digital Foundry really needs to revisit all the updates this game has.
Jusant was another example of Game Pass having a worse version than Steam at launch. I had to submit a ticket to the developer to get them to add it, which shouldn't be necessary.
I thought something was fishy here. I bought Diablo 4 at launch on Xbox, and sometimes play it on PC now that it’s on GamePass. The GamePass version on PC looks worse than the D4 I have on my Xbox. It’s hugely noticeable in the map, minimap, item icons in inventory. It’s blurry AF, even when set at 4k. My PC should be eating D4 alive, and it looks like garbage.
@@SurviveOnlyStrong Tried that and it didn't make a big difference. The full retail version I played on Xbox looked much sharper, crisper and cleaner. Diablo 3 is the same way. The Xbox version looks markedly better than PC.
I play Forza Horizon 5 on pc, and highest setting textures are not good for car dashboard display, very blurry, I see other pc gameplay footage with better car dash textures, and I realise I'm on game pass pc Forza Horizon 5, I'm betting the game pass version has problems that steam FH5 version does not have which isn't surprising.
Woah, I thought it was just me when I tried everything to run Warhammer Boltgun on my PC with Gamepass. I literally purchased the Steam version just to make sure it wasn't my PC, and voila, that version works. Wtf Xbox?
MS allows games to be added to their platform as standard win32 applications now, they dont't have to use the ms store package, so there's not really any excuse for having a downgraded version, it's just an excuse for lazy devs. Microsoft's patching process still requires a lot of improvement though because they can take an age to approve a patch, so devs don't like to do small, frequent patches like they would on Steam. and the app does also need improvements because the guys here are correct, it does just sometimes refuse to launch games, though I've found a reboot always resolves it.
That lifeless download button press on Xbox app is the worst, especially looking at the download progress staying on 0 Kb forever until you forget you even wanted to play the game.
I had only problems with Pc on Gamepass (Xbox App).Many games didn't start or started then crashed and not even Microsoft Support could help me. Then I canceled Gamepass. Now I only play on PS5 and everything works flawlessly. PC is not really suitable for gaming. You can see it on every corner.Thats why big game developers dont care too much about pc-gaming except indie game developers on Steam. The Pc Versions from an AAA game are mostly full with bugs and performance problems.
Tries ark on xbox store as used to play it on series x got myself a decent pc tried the steam version of ark. The graphics are way better on steam version plus it has rtx enabled. Game pass games are nowhere near as good.
I'm kind of getting tired of GamePass; it's a great idea but the implementation is awful, although most of that seems to stem from the UWP nature of how the Xbox PC app works.
Its real though, I've had tons of problems with pc game pass and the steam/epic/gog versions run perfectly fine. Persona 3 R ran like dogshit on gamepass PC, perfectly fine on steam. Crusader Kings 3, crashed every 15 minutes "running out of memory" 64gb DDR5!?!. Works flawlessly on Steam. It is so odd that there are consistently just these stupid incompatibilites, nerfed versions, and duds associated with game pass PC that it just doesnt feel like it can be a coincidence. Thankfully Call of Duty is most likely gonna launch through Bnet so I assume we will dodge a bullet there, but no matter how good of a deal game pass may be with amount of content, if that content just doesn't work how can you recommend it to anyone?
Lets take the time to discuss the absolute abomination, collective hive mind of maliciously trash written software that is the Xbox app on pc , besides how broken it is nothing can download or launch right , you get a shotgun shell to the face in the form of other launchers popping up everytime you launch it.
Much like Games for Windows Live, Game Pass on PC gets bogged down by Microsoft's own bloat, including UWP launchers, and it can feel cumbersome to navigate as the fine folks at DF have indicated. It is kind of fascinating to think Microsoft can't get their services right on their own Windows platforms, nevermind trying to access Game Pass' services on something like a Steam Deck or Apple Computer. That said, I am more concerned about Microsoft's handling of internal studios like Tango Gameworks and Arkane Austin.
ALL game Launchers are the PLAGUE. Steam, Gamepass, Epic. Only good one without Launcher is GoG. With Steam i cant sell my used Games anymore, which would be acceptable if the Game costs 50% of a Physical Disc new. But hell no, Steam Games are at least 20-30% MORE expensive than Physical Discs.
Good comment gamepass has gotten a lot of subscribers but that hasn’t stopped Microsoft from firing developers. Nothing coping about real people losing their jobs while I save money.
Game pass also devalues the developer’s work. Sure they get upfront money, but you see the game coming to game pass so you think “why would I buy this game on steam or epic when it’s coming to game pass?”. This also brings the debate up about ownership vs streaming.
@Roach22 That may be true, but you tend to have options with those you mention. Gaming is full of proprietary and exclusive licences and I've yet to see any song you cannot find any more. With gaming we can already list games you can no longer obtain or play.
Being owned by IGN=Xbox can do no good! You guys are exaggerating this problem. I’m sure your PC is ten times better than mine and I had no problems running Hellblade 2 on my PC or Rogg Ally. Good job losing some of your viewers.
literally nothing but "piracy" is game preservation so might as well just get a gamepass at that point. last time physical media for preservation made sense was the ps2 and even those discs will be gone in a few decades.
@dmer-zy3rb nope. Gaypass deletes games all the time. Gaybox fanqueers think they will get to play old cods in 20 years on Gaypass. Even though microcock will pull the plug on gaybox way before another 20 years
Sometimes DFs takes really confuse me. Couple videos ago they dragged Sony for the emulation quality of their ancient games. And now they’re dragging Xbox for standardizing their game pass feature set. If you sub to pspremium, you don’t care about emulation quality. If you sub to game pass, you don’t care about DLSS or FSR Those are enthusiast level gripes and video game enthusiasts couldn’t care less about either of those subscriptions.
Microsoft's decisions regarding their store is outright baffling; instead of taking advantage of their first party position to get ahead of the competition, they've opted for what is essentially a system supported DRM that objectively makes them the proud distributers of the worst version of games.
Modding games on gamepass is harder as well
Most don't support Fullscreen Exclusive as well for some reason.
Do better MS.
Their "container" doesn't allow direct interaction with GPU, it seems. It doesn't allow full control and thus no real fullscreen. However, on recent hardware, that doesn't change much in term of performance.
There is no exclusive full screen on ANY new windows games any more. If a game has an option for exclusive full screen, it is lying to you.
I'm glad they made this a segment, because this needs to be addressed. I do love the value I get out of game pass but missing features that are found on other pc launches hurts that value in my opinion.
This is pretty much the reason I gave up on Forza 7 and Gears 4. Some days they would launch fine, other days I would hit the play button and it would do nothing. Absolutely crazy.
how were u expecting dlss on gears 4
@@RTXWorld-m2h what? I'm talking about games not starting, watch the video.
Given the user's name. Their brain might be rotten sadly.@@cosbusta
Forza is a borrowed license. In a few years they will take the Forza games away from your library. MS is built on the "you will own nothing and be happy" principle. Steam and gog give you full game ownership. Dont need to be online to play games on those clients
Same here for Halo Infinite. The 'fix' was to mash the shortcut. Sounds odd but it works - sometimes mash for 2 secs, sometimes up to 10. Weirdest bug...
Gamepass versions are the most shitty versions. You cannot even browse the game folder, my God.
I remember once years ago my Xbox games app 'forgot' that I had Halo MCC installed. I couldn't manually uninstall it and I couldn't reinstall it. Brilliant Microsoft.
Absolutely hate the Xbox for Windows app. It's often a gamble whether or not a game will even launch - sometimes I've had to uninstall and reinstall just to fix inexplicable launch errors.
And god forbid, if you ever clone your storage drive, any Xbox for Windows games installed will simply not get detected anymore. Even worse, removing the useless files (which can be hundreds of GB in size) is a massive exercise in frustration, requiring you to boot into safe mode and jump through all kinds of hoops.
I would rather pay full price for a Steam/Epic version than play a free version via Xbox for Windows. That's how much I hate this app.
I love GamePass, but the app for it definitely needs to be improved.
The Nino Kuni Rematered Gamepass version doesn't have controller icons. It just shows the description for each icon. An exception was Nier Automata that came with an improved version on GP compared to the Steam version
Games for Windows Live.
*Vietnam flashbacks*
I still remember firing up fallout 3, going to the console and unlocking all the achievements lol
Surprised M$ overlooked this. Gamepass is pretty much their last chance to claw back any percentage of the gamer base so you’d think they’d make it the absolute best it can possibly be.
Like a dragon Ishin seems to have a similar problem, where it has an option enable FSR but doesn't seem to be working.
F.I.S.T. Forged in Shadow Torch is also missing DLSS and ray tracing on Game Pass
Recently finished that game but still thought it looked gorgeous.
(Leaves gamepass this week)
And the epic version is missing I think ray tracing last time I checked. Figured it'd be patched at some point but months later nothing.
@@mikeuk666 Well, if had gotten it on Steam it would have looked even better...
The DEFINITIVE SOLUTION for: Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition on PC (MS STORE), It's in a simple configuration on BIOS: (Turn OFF Hyper Thread from Processor) and Launch the game Normally.
This happened to Control and a few other games for a bit before they were patched.
Another reason to just choose the Steam version.
If something like Steam Pass existed, sure.
@@Kurikettoor if you want the superior version of games amd not have to deal with ms garbage digital distribution platform.
@@alostcause4035 Doesn't have to be either or. Game Pass offers the chance to check out a game for obviously much longer than the two hour refund window Steam provides. And it's still a good value for the right audience even with all its flaws.
Steam and GOG means you own your games because you can play them offline. Also Forza is literally a license to borrow bc MS takes it away after a few years. So much for "ownership"
@@CheckmateStallioN "Ownership" implies you can transfer games and accounts between people, which Steam doesn't allow. Not sure about GOG, but at least they provide offline installers which is pretty much just as good.
This might be an issue with direct gamepass with a pc? I do pc game pass via nvidia GeForce now on shield pro and I always get the upscalers ect so different configs may vary
Game files are also encrypted so you can't install mods, update dlss, etc.
You can't decrypt the files?
Not all games are like this, I modded Stardew Valley and Hollow Knight on game pass and it was pretty easy to do.
Palworld on game pass didn’t have DLSS for months, and idk if it still doesn’t cause I moved to steam.
The Game Pass PC version of Ark Survival Ascended only supports FSR and Native, no DLSS
What really annoyed me was that the options in the gamepass version has dlss/fsr in the option description.
Started the game today...still wakes the deep. And was wondering that myself. But also I almost gave up because at maxed settings in 4k, things looked horrible. Then somehow after some time playing, the screen flickered and the settings kicked in i guess. It Must have been 1080 but it said 4k all along. So no dlss is a gamepass thing and not an nvidia driver issue?
Good for you guys in highlighting it. Microsoft are doing nothing to show gamers they care about this that I can see. It's embarrassing. They are doing so many things right and the recent showcase was amazing, but how can you get excited about games on GamePass day one, when they might be gimped versions??
So glad you made this. Still Wakes the Deep was put on GP without dlss which was a huge bummer.
They’re porting the console version with some pc settings support like graphics settings but without all upscaling features.
I love how everyone at DF are well versed in their areas. A good collective of minds and they dont step on each others toes! Loved DF for years!
This is so baffling. The performance is horrible on PC at 4k
I was wondering why it wasn't showing up 😮 Thanks for the info DF Still played and beat this game and I loved it.
Chinese room didn’t say they’re adding all upscalers, only dlss is confirmed, they’re investigating fsr but are ‘unable to commit to fsr implementation’ 👎
Git Gud developers that goes for game makers getting a better understanding of the wingdk but also for MS to make sure their bolted on walled garden App Store is actually functional and offer help to those that want to develop for it! This is a both sides problem!
By default any gamepass PC version is just a console version on PC, with all the certs it has to do for xbox, not dedicated like other single platform stores.
Windows in general is miles worse than it ever was before.
100%. When I tell people I need to run a VM with a second copy of Windows to have notifications on my second monitor they think I'm joking.
No really, this OS is that awful. They'd rather make literal spyware than a toggle to switch which monitors receive notifications. If only people knew HOW BAD it actually is.
Linux does what Windon't. MS a huge software corp cant even get their shit together and write proper windows updates that dont conflict with drivers and other software
@@steel5897 I refuse to update from Windows 10 to 11. Support for my sound card in two different PCs, ends with Windows 10. It's going to get worse, once they cut support for W10.
I doubt windows is worst than the 98 and vista days lol . That thing bsod every single day
@@Drivenby Stability-wise it's better now. Everything else? Downgrade.
Not the first time this has occurred, I forgot what game I played that was just straight up missing those features
This is my biggest gripe with game pass. I wanted to play this with DLSS. I have game pass. I had to sail the high seas just to get the features that should have been present from the start. It was soo dumb to go the WinGDK route for game pass.
It's kinda hard to get adrenalin software to recognize a game from gamepass.
It's really hit or miss.
To play sea of stars in game pass i had to reset, uninstall, reinstall update reset the Xbox app and Xbox service like 10 times, until finally worked. Such bullahit
This reminds me of Worms WMD online multiplayer. I couldn't play with Steam friends using the game pass version from antiquity. I had to buy the newer Steam version.
Diablo 4 is missing XeSS for Gamepass too. Warhammer Darktide is probably the only exception. All upscalers are there. Digital Foundry really needs to revisit all the updates this game has.
It will all come after a huge price increase....🤣
Idk why but All games than i teat on gamepass and Steam, tge gamepass version have a insane high Ping!
Thank you DF!
Jusant was another example of Game Pass having a worse version than Steam at launch. I had to submit a ticket to the developer to get them to add it, which shouldn't be necessary.
I am glad we have places like DF to hold these services accountable ❤
I thought something was fishy here. I bought Diablo 4 at launch on Xbox, and sometimes play it on PC now that it’s on GamePass. The GamePass version on PC looks worse than the D4 I have on my Xbox. It’s hugely noticeable in the map, minimap, item icons in inventory. It’s blurry AF, even when set at 4k. My PC should be eating D4 alive, and it looks like garbage.
You can choose install high quality assets, it's 70gb vs 120gb
@@SurviveOnlyStrong Tried that and it didn't make a big difference. The full retail version I played on Xbox looked much sharper, crisper and cleaner.
Diablo 3 is the same way. The Xbox version looks markedly better than PC.
I played the gamepass version of Hellblade 2 and that had FSR 3 so maybe DLSS is not available ...
I play Forza Horizon 5 on pc, and highest setting textures are not good for car dashboard display, very blurry, I see other pc gameplay footage with better car dash textures, and I realise I'm on game pass pc Forza Horizon 5, I'm betting the game pass version has problems that steam FH5 version does not have which isn't surprising.
Why aren't Gamepass subscribers growing?
Cut to Rich trying to get Tomb Raider to start for the 8th time.
Microsoft is waiting to put that in using DirectX unifying API.
Hope stalker is going to have DLSS in GP version.
I double dipped and bought Forza Horizon 4 & 5 on Steam whilst on offer. Shall never again purchase a game on Microsoft's garbage PC store.
When I tried mount and blade 2 half a year ago it was at least one patch behind all others.
PREACH. Microsoft user experience is AWFUL
Very slow download speed on Gears 5 Microsoft store.
Woah, I thought it was just me when I tried everything to run Warhammer Boltgun on my PC with Gamepass. I literally purchased the Steam version just to make sure it wasn't my PC, and voila, that version works. Wtf Xbox?
What are Microsoft thinking??
MS allows games to be added to their platform as standard win32 applications now, they dont't have to use the ms store package, so there's not really any excuse for having a downgraded version, it's just an excuse for lazy devs. Microsoft's patching process still requires a lot of improvement though because they can take an age to approve a patch, so devs don't like to do small, frequent patches like they would on Steam. and the app does also need improvements because the guys here are correct, it does just sometimes refuse to launch games, though I've found a reboot always resolves it.
Frıstpunk 2 also missing dlls and frs 3.
That lifeless download button press on Xbox app is the worst, especially looking at the download progress staying on 0 Kb forever until you forget you even wanted to play the game.
I had only problems with Pc on Gamepass (Xbox App).Many games didn't start or started then crashed and not even Microsoft Support could help me. Then I canceled Gamepass. Now I only play on PS5 and everything works flawlessly. PC is not really suitable for gaming. You can see it on every corner.Thats why big game developers dont care too much about pc-gaming except indie game developers on Steam. The Pc Versions from an AAA game are mostly full with bugs and performance problems.
Yeah that was Tod Howard's excuse 😂
Don't get me started about ESO in the Windows Store (not there)... Nothing happens for gamepass. 🤣
I know what's going on. It's Microsoft pushing their "Game Mode".
Payday 3 also had that problem
I call bullshit that the number of players on the Epic store is larger than number of players on PC Gamepass. No way.
Tries ark on xbox store as used to play it on series x got myself a decent pc tried the steam version of ark. The graphics are way better on steam version plus it has rtx enabled. Game pass games are nowhere near as good.
I'm kind of getting tired of GamePass; it's a great idea but the implementation is awful, although most of that seems to stem from the UWP nature of how the Xbox PC app works.
This is sad almost every game on gamepass has missing graphical features :(
Its real though, I've had tons of problems with pc game pass and the steam/epic/gog versions run perfectly fine. Persona 3 R ran like dogshit on gamepass PC, perfectly fine on steam. Crusader Kings 3, crashed every 15 minutes "running out of memory" 64gb DDR5!?!. Works flawlessly on Steam. It is so odd that there are consistently just these stupid incompatibilites, nerfed versions, and duds associated with game pass PC that it just doesnt feel like it can be a coincidence. Thankfully Call of Duty is most likely gonna launch through Bnet so I assume we will dodge a bullet there, but no matter how good of a deal game pass may be with amount of content, if that content just doesn't work how can you recommend it to anyone?
have you tested lossless scaling?
They did and didn't like it. The frame generation disables VRR so it's a net negative to frame pacing.
Everything about Microsoft sucks, even the eir copilot, windows, Xbox, Microsoft office
Hellblade II has all the upscalers and they work great.
Of course, it’s a MS first party title
The Sunk Cost Fallacy has been renamed to the Xbox Fallacy 😏
Lets take the time to discuss the absolute abomination, collective hive mind of maliciously trash written software that is the Xbox app on pc , besides how broken it is nothing can download or launch right , you get a shotgun shell to the face in the form of other launchers popping up everytime you launch it.
I havnt had an issue with pc game pass yet
🤣
You will, give it time.
The only issue I've had with PC Gamepass is that it'll try to update Starfield with a 19 GB update but I deleted that game months ago 😂😂😂😂😂
Xbox store on pc is trash most games not even available in the store 🤦🏽♂️
Yeah, I find that kinda weird too. Like, some games are there to be played with Game Pass but you can't buy it for your Xbox account? That is weird.
Much like Games for Windows Live, Game Pass on PC gets bogged down by Microsoft's own bloat, including UWP launchers, and it can feel cumbersome to navigate as the fine folks at DF have indicated. It is kind of fascinating to think Microsoft can't get their services right on their own Windows platforms, nevermind trying to access Game Pass' services on something like a Steam Deck or Apple Computer. That said, I am more concerned about Microsoft's handling of internal studios like Tango Gameworks and Arkane Austin.
ALL game Launchers are the PLAGUE. Steam, Gamepass, Epic. Only good one without Launcher is GoG.
With Steam i cant sell my used Games anymore, which would be acceptable if the Game costs 50% of a Physical Disc new. But hell no, Steam Games are at least 20-30% MORE expensive than Physical Discs.
PC game pass is a joke
Ms control freaks
Gamepass is good for poor people, but bad for the industry.
So because someone saves massively they are poor? Cool copium there kid 😂
Good comment gamepass has gotten a lot of subscribers but that hasn’t stopped Microsoft from firing developers. Nothing coping about real people losing their jobs while I save money.
@@mikeuk666 bro what're you saying? why be offended? he's just saying some people who can't buy many games can afford them
@@blankfallyes, unfortunately their financial reports show they don't profit from it much, which is bad news for everyone
@@mikeuk666"I'll just wait for it to be on lamepass I don't support developers by buying video games" you
Pc gamers be moaning, what’s new !!?
Game pass also devalues the developer’s work. Sure they get upfront money, but you see the game coming to game pass so you think “why would I buy this game on steam or epic when it’s coming to game pass?”. This also brings the debate up about ownership vs streaming.
I think it's the natural evolution for the industry. It happened to music, then movies, games were always going to follow.
yup, why we keep seing them shove micros into literally nearly everything lol
@@wizzenberry citation on that being because of gamepass
@@Roach22 the day i cant play disks is the day i stop gaming, simple
@Roach22 That may be true, but you tend to have options with those you mention. Gaming is full of proprietary and exclusive licences and I've yet to see any song you cannot find any more. With gaming we can already list games you can no longer obtain or play.
This is the biggest load of BS. Many games come shipped with dlss and fsr on gamepass. They're just lazy.
Being owned by IGN=Xbox can do no good! You guys are exaggerating this problem. I’m sure your PC is ten times better than mine and I had no problems running Hellblade 2 on my PC or Rogg Ally. Good job losing some of your viewers.
IGN don't own DF 🤡
The answer is: Gamepass and Xbox suck. Easy.
i cannot wait for MS to sell off all the studios and ip's when xbox folds. it will be glorious
Cool story kid but keep dreaming
What a ridiculously shortsighted thought.
I'm soooo tired of people acting like everything is so cookie cutter black and white.
Npc daydreams
Why, that would be a huge blow and tragedy to the gaming industry as whole. No one benefits.
They won't sell them off. They'll sit on IPs and let the fester. Quantum Break, Shadowrun, Mechwarrior. Xbox stagnates brands into obscurity.
Xbots don't buy video games.
Crying because I pay £12.99 a month to cover two systems with heaps of games 😂
@@mikeuk666 I'm not crying just stating a fact about xbots
Gaypass is anti game preservation! What happened to DF being for preserving games. You can tell they are gaybox fanqueers.
Cool story Hin00bs12 aka Ryan Miller known to be in his 30's but seeks attention here daily 😂😂😂
literally nothing but "piracy" is game preservation so might as well just get a gamepass at that point. last time physical media for preservation made sense was the ps2 and even those discs will be gone in a few decades.
@dmer-zy3rb nope. Gaypass deletes games all the time. Gaybox fanqueers think they will get to play old cods in 20 years on Gaypass. Even though microcock will pull the plug on gaybox way before another 20 years
Sometimes DFs takes really confuse me. Couple videos ago they dragged Sony for the emulation quality of their ancient games. And now they’re dragging Xbox for standardizing their game pass feature set.
If you sub to pspremium, you don’t care about emulation quality.
If you sub to game pass, you don’t care about DLSS or FSR
Those are enthusiast level gripes and video game enthusiasts couldn’t care less about either of those subscriptions.
You can critize both, what are you taking about?
Bad take their channel is for gaming enthusiasts hence the name Digital Foundry.
How do you even get to this level of stupidity, dude?
@@oukeith Read my last sentence again.