Thank you Jack, I was really intrigued as to how this would compare with other brewers and I'm glad you showcased the Hoop. I've never really enjoyed really long brews which is why I thought this likely isn't for me. However, I must admit the brewing process seems really simple. Simple likely means more consistency? It would be nice to see how this compares to the Orea. I always stick to the same Orea recipe and only adjust the temperature and potentially the grind size depending on the coffee filters I use. I have SSP MP burrs (after your encouragement to go for them) and the Orea seems to work really well and really consistently. I'd be intrigued to see how something simple like the Ceado also compares to something expensive like the Aiden or even the Filter profile on your Decent :D
@@gero77 thank you for watching. I never really liked pour overs on Decent although I haven’t explored all the options there. At the same brew time Orea seems to extract more and extra layers of flavours but Hoop is more smooth. Overall not bad brewer and seems consistent so far.
I know I'm in the minority here, but I've had my Hoop for about a year now and I prefer it over my V60. It did take a few tries to get it dialed in, but once you understand the Hoop, I think it makes a great cup of coffee. Extremely smooth. I've found that if the grind is too COARSE, the Hoop might choke. Using a Fellow Ode grinder with Gen 2 burrs, I grind at one mark below 4. 16 grams of coffee to 250ml water at 93 degrees C. The draw down time is usually about 3-4 minutes.
Can you talk about grind size? Perhaps in microns or common grinders (C40, DF w SSP MP), as it is VERY important. BTW, for me the lid creates a vacuum if put on during the brew, which causes stalling. It’s recommended more to go under, except when storing.
@@seansweet4883 thank you for the info! As for grind settings, it would be difficult to assess. Even when using C40 , different rpm changes distribution of particles. There are machines that can check that but very expensive. I used Kafatek Max2 and similar grind settings as for Orea V4.
Not sure I am convinced but I can see some of my moto-camping friends could go for that. That said... I don't see why I would be compelled to use this at home. Traveling though, with limited amount of space it can get interesting. Simple and not too big.... if the result is better than other small size solutions, yes! ....it is often surprising how much people carry with them to make a decent coffee at a camping site.
@@foodieontour with regular pour over you have more control over the extraction. This I think is more towards those who like good coffee but are not necessarily a coffee geeks.
BPA is just 1 of many off gassing toxins from plastics. Apply heat, AND a solvent like water, and its NOT good on something you use regularly. I know from experience in plastics mfg. Dont regularly drink from it Jack!! lol. BTW, What do you think of the ceramic Bonavita Drip control brewer? Does it have a filter inside? That would be an interesting idea. Maybe with mag-chloride or sulfate, or cal...Would be a interesting gimmick :-)
@@philindeblanc thank you for watching and all the info. Tbh I haven’t heard about the brewer you mentioned. I will have to check them out. I am getting a complete set made of clay/ceramic from Palatti soon. It weighs almost 10kg! Should be awesome.
Whoa, what a load of BS, sorry could not hold it back. I got my Ceado Hoop the week it launched. Got it for over a year now and IMHO it sucks. Poor design, coffee can back defuse to the outer ring and plug the holes. The actual version 1 did not bring the lid, which by the way will favor stalling due to the pressure difference inside the brewer vs outside. Honestly, DO NOT waste your money on this thing! Used it a couple dozen times, lent it to other coffee nerds and the consensus was that it was too finicky, too gimmicky, too inconsistent and the quality of the brews did not justify the investment of time and money. (3/10 score)
@@jtvrm1 I guess you are not a fan 😛. I don’t know what to say. I had some very tasty pour overs out of it. Maybe it doesn’t offer that much in terms of control as regular pour over brewers but I had no issues with it clogging or anything. I don’t think it will replace my Orea but it could be something I use when I travel and don’t want to concentrate on recipe and grind size too much.
@@mycoffeeshow111 Dont get me wrong, I like your work and I do follow your reviews - great work btw, please keep it up it is very useful for end consumers like myself. Regarding the Ceado Hoop however I completely disagree and from what I gathered I'm not alone in this. Indeed this will not replace the Orea V4, V60, Hario switch, UFO dripper nor Sworksdesing bottomless dripper I have, all of which outperform the Hoop in the price/consistency/cup quality categories. Would strongly recommend trying out the UFO v2 and the Sworksdesign bottomless drippers if you haven't, real game changers, both. All the best.
@ thank you very much. I always appreciate honesty as it will be important for any potential buyers. I had very positive experience with Hoop but that could be due to good coffee and grinder (Max 2). I contacted both UFO and Sworks in the past but they haven’t responded.
Regrettably, my experience was similar. A local roaster and cafe, facing comparable issues, mostly related to inconsistency, lent it to me. While I managed to produce some enjoyable brews, the taste was noticeably weaker compared to a V60/Kalita. I found it delightful with a natural Guatemalan coffee but not with the others I tried. Additionally, I encountered quite a few stalled brews. It might serve well as a brewer for someone who prefers not to use a gooseneck kettle or learn precise pouring techniques, perhaps a beginner or for travel purposes. However, I wouldn't recommend it as the sole brewing option. My overall rating would be 6/10; it's user-friendly, but the drawbacks are too significant for my daily routine.
Looks like a fun brewer
@@troncaffe simple to use and relatively cheap.
Thank you Jack, I was really intrigued as to how this would compare with other brewers and I'm glad you showcased the Hoop. I've never really enjoyed really long brews which is why I thought this likely isn't for me. However, I must admit the brewing process seems really simple. Simple likely means more consistency? It would be nice to see how this compares to the Orea. I always stick to the same Orea recipe and only adjust the temperature and potentially the grind size depending on the coffee filters I use. I have SSP MP burrs (after your encouragement to go for them) and the Orea seems to work really well and really consistently. I'd be intrigued to see how something simple like the Ceado also compares to something expensive like the Aiden or even the Filter profile on your Decent :D
@@gero77 thank you for watching. I never really liked pour overs on Decent although I haven’t explored all the options there.
At the same brew time Orea seems to extract more and extra layers of flavours but Hoop is more smooth.
Overall not bad brewer and seems consistent so far.
I know I'm in the minority here, but I've had my Hoop for about a year now and I prefer it over my V60. It did take a few tries to get it dialed in, but once you understand the Hoop, I think it makes a great cup of coffee. Extremely smooth. I've found that if the grind is too COARSE, the Hoop might choke. Using a Fellow Ode grinder with Gen 2 burrs, I grind at one mark below 4. 16 grams of coffee to 250ml water at 93 degrees C. The draw down time is usually about 3-4 minutes.
@@LightZone9 Uff, I thought I am the only one who likes this brewer. Thank you very much for sharing!
Can you talk about grind size? Perhaps in microns or common grinders (C40, DF w SSP MP), as it is VERY important.
BTW, for me the lid creates a vacuum if put on during the brew, which causes stalling. It’s recommended more to go under, except when storing.
@@seansweet4883 thank you for the info! As for grind settings, it would be difficult to assess. Even when using C40 , different rpm changes distribution of particles. There are machines that can check that but very expensive.
I used Kafatek Max2 and similar grind settings as for Orea V4.
Awesome might take a look and try getting for a pour over way if making coffee
@@CC-wolverine good pour over is not bad 😁 Thx for watching!
@mycoffeeshow111 your welcome inuse to make pour over coffee with a older miletta dripper then I stopped
Not sure I am convinced but I can see some of my moto-camping friends could go for that. That said... I don't see why I would be compelled to use this at home. Traveling though, with limited amount of space it can get interesting. Simple and not too big.... if the result is better than other small size solutions, yes! ....it is often surprising how much people carry with them to make a decent coffee at a camping site.
@@foodieontour with regular pour over you have more control over the extraction. This I think is more towards those who like good coffee but are not necessarily a coffee geeks.
BPA is just 1 of many off gassing toxins from plastics. Apply heat, AND a solvent like water, and its NOT good on something you use regularly. I know from experience in plastics mfg. Dont regularly drink from it Jack!! lol.
BTW, What do you think of the ceramic Bonavita Drip control brewer? Does it have a filter inside? That would be an interesting idea. Maybe with mag-chloride or sulfate, or cal...Would be a interesting gimmick :-)
@@philindeblanc thank you for watching and all the info. Tbh I haven’t heard about the brewer you mentioned. I will have to check them out. I am getting a complete set made of clay/ceramic from Palatti soon. It weighs almost 10kg! Should be awesome.
@@mycoffeeshow111 Nice...Will look fwd to that. But you should check out the Bonavita, about 28$usd, and it has a "infusuion" drip control.
Whoa, what a load of BS, sorry could not hold it back. I got my Ceado Hoop the week it launched. Got it for over a year now and IMHO it sucks. Poor design, coffee can back defuse to the outer ring and plug the holes. The actual version 1 did not bring the lid, which by the way will favor stalling due to the pressure difference inside the brewer vs outside. Honestly, DO NOT waste your money on this thing! Used it a couple dozen times, lent it to other coffee nerds and the consensus was that it was too finicky, too gimmicky, too inconsistent and the quality of the brews did not justify the investment of time and money. (3/10 score)
@@jtvrm1 I guess you are not a fan 😛. I don’t know what to say. I had some very tasty pour overs out of it. Maybe it doesn’t offer that much in terms of control as regular pour over brewers but I had no issues with it clogging or anything. I don’t think it will replace my Orea but it could be something I use when I travel and don’t want to concentrate on recipe and grind size too much.
@@mycoffeeshow111 Dont get me wrong, I like your work and I do follow your reviews - great work btw, please keep it up it is very useful for end consumers like myself. Regarding the Ceado Hoop however I completely disagree and from what I gathered I'm not alone in this. Indeed this will not replace the Orea V4, V60, Hario switch, UFO dripper nor Sworksdesing bottomless dripper I have, all of which outperform the Hoop in the price/consistency/cup quality categories. Would strongly recommend trying out the UFO v2 and the Sworksdesign bottomless drippers if you haven't, real game changers, both. All the best.
@ thank you very much. I always appreciate honesty as it will be important for any potential buyers. I had very positive experience with Hoop but that could be due to good coffee and grinder (Max 2).
I contacted both UFO and Sworks in the past but they haven’t responded.
Regrettably, my experience was similar. A local roaster and cafe, facing comparable issues, mostly related to inconsistency, lent it to me. While I managed to produce some enjoyable brews, the taste was noticeably weaker compared to a V60/Kalita. I found it delightful with a natural Guatemalan coffee but not with the others I tried. Additionally, I encountered quite a few stalled brews. It might serve well as a brewer for someone who prefers not to use a gooseneck kettle or learn precise pouring techniques, perhaps a beginner or for travel purposes. However, I wouldn't recommend it as the sole brewing option. My overall rating would be 6/10; it's user-friendly, but the drawbacks are too significant for my daily routine.
@ thank you very much for sharing your experience!