Great video. How do you bend your pvc pipe? What size pump do you use for your spa jet returns? Is there a way to use one variable speed pump with and plumbing in the spa the way you show in this video?
I saw your comment about the 50amp thing....I am wondering if I have enough power to run a spa? I live in an are where our main power is only 40amps and half the time we are on generator that only gives 20 amps !!!! I am just starting to research spas so I don't know anything...but I do appreciate your videos.
With 20 or 40 amps it is difficult enough to have enough power for a house let alone a pool or Spa. They do make spas that run on 20 amps that are above ground. I would suggest getting a few solar panels that would run a spa.
@@JohnThePoolExpertGuy yes its tough but once you learn what you can can't run its golden ;) haha most folks actually only have 4-8amps.... thats tough. So I want to build an inground spa a DIY hahaha.....If I added the solar panels do you think I could do it? Assuming I can find the right materials here. Also one other question (actually i have a million but I am sure you have a million other comments to reply to) what do you think my biggest size could be for my power situation? And do you know of any specific website i could go to to learn more about all this stuff? As of now I am just browsing everything and reading as much as I can but going from knowing nothing is a little challenging...."But all things are possible..." If I was in the states I could go talk with people at pool stores or something but, we don't have that here. Thanks again!!!
I would like to know where the Lasco jets are located. I removes a return eye ball in my spa and found the removable jet nozzle has somehow fallen off and was stuck in a return eyeball. This is a inground pool spa and I now get no air activity in the spa. I also can see water in the 2" air intake pipe at the pool equipment . What do you think?
lesliespool.com/waterway-gunite-venturi-tee-7-16in.-nozzle/364976.html This is a jet nozzle made by Waterway it should be interchangeable. Some plastic nozzles have 1/4 twist-lock make sure you pull out the original one and look at it before you order one. If all of the jet nozzles are in it should start to work properly. Also if you remove the eyeballs it will work even better.
Great video. Our pool guy didn’t tell us that our spa was his first. We have 8 jets but they are regular pool jets with a 2hp motor. We barely have any pressure coming out of the “jets” and there’s no air connection at all. Can we get a bigger motor? Would that help? Trying to determine if there’s anything we can do short of getting it completely replumbed.
@@JohnThePoolExpertGuy ok...a minor nitpick....you don't increase pressure with a fitting...only velocity; the smaller the opening the less water and the pressure moves that smaller volume of water faster
No.... usually you can install a channel drain if you don't have enough room and it will still be safe. Here is a link hopefully you can copy and paste it. www.aquastarpoolproducts.com/ItemCatalog/32%22-Channel-Drain-Anti-Entrapment--Suction-Outlet-Cover-and-Frame
Hartford Loop. And it must be even with the top of the beam or higher if you can get away with it. Don't forget concrete or something goes on top of that so you might have a little flexibility.
@@JohnThePoolExpertGuy can I consult with you on pool designs for an Engineering company in Florida? We would basically pay you to review plans that we complete.
Hey i have a spa that just got built and the plumber put 2 drains in the bottom with only one suction line from the spa, and one suction line from the pool and one and they both are connected with a t jandy valve, the issue im having is the spillway does not have enough power to spill nice unless i completlely close off the spa suction any possible way i can fix this? I can send you a pic of my plumbing it would really help me out brother!!
That is typically how It works. Normally the Spa suction is off unless in "spa mode" unless you have a completely separate set of equipment for your Spa. So for a decent spillway you need 100% pool suction and 100% spa return. For regular filtration I usually set it for 100% pool suction and 50 - 50 pool and spa return.
A spa main drain line should be closed unless in spa mode, make sure suction is only open to the pool, and then you should also have a Jandy valve that controls water back to the pool, you should be able to split the water between pool and spa. The other thing about spillways is they're often not constructed very great when it comes to efficient water shear. What is the spillway made of?Granite, tile, rocks?
@@JohnThePoolExpertGuy The air intake line is by pool equipment and I can see water in it when I remove the elbow 90. When I put back into pool mode the pipe that has air suction spits water out. I have never seen any lines do that. Is there like some type of check valve along air intake plumbing line. Thank you
@@herbertperez4082 Typically that happens when a jet is plugged, covered, or if the jets have adjustable pressure and a few of them are turned off. First I would check to see if all the jets are flowing the same. Then I would take a shop vac and blow the line out. From the equipment to the pool.
Hey John, can spa light be reinstalled if spa light cord is stuck inside the conduit and pretty much done. Conduit is 150' away to junction box so no luck there, many tried. I want to add spa light in different direction with new conduit and separate connections. Partially demolishing spa seat, drill to make a new conduit and then replaster? or other alternatives? Thank you in advance !
If you could get ahold of the original conduit closer to the spa it would be pretty easy to cut it and pull out the light and rerun the conduit closer. If that's not possible then you would have to bust a hole through the step and put everything new.
John The Pool Expert bonding wire was pulled out from the spa side couple feet out then got stuck and they tried using 4x4 but it snapped pretty much right by the niche. They used fish tape from the junction box to grab on to the new spa light cord and fish tape also got stuck about 25’ deep. At this point human strength is not enough and nobody has tri pod rodder.. seems like something got mingled inside or sharp corner of conduit.. conduit goes around the pool covered with concrete along the way :/
@@Spartan_0916 What I have found when pulling out old lights solid steady pressure will never do it. It needs to be pulled from the pool or Spa side and it usually needs quick hard jerks to get it to start sliding. Sometimes I will take the cord and wrap it around a sledgehammer and swing it away from the light niche. Sounds like you may be past the point of removal though.
John The Pool Expert yes, we have tried everything at this point. Im just blaming myself for even touching the old spa light cause it was working fine but it was there since 2001. My only option now is plug the old niche and make a new one with its own conduit and separate connection. Im guessing spa seating area can be busted and drilled then re plastered for new hole/niche?
We put in a pool and spa last year. I'm just noticing the pressure coming out of the jets in the spa while it's in spa mode is not as strong as the pressure coming out of the pipes in the pool when it's in pool mode. Any thoughts on why that would be the case? Thank you!
John! Thanks for the video now I know what type of jet I have in my Spa and how it draws air and why it 20" away from the opening of my Spa. Q #1: I just need to buy that Lasco jet insert (jet only) where can I buy them? Not finding them on the internet. Could be looking at poor websites. Q #2: Those jets are made out of plastic. Guess what happened as I tried to remove a few of them, the head broke off. Drilled it out because there was debris behind the jet from a filter grid that came apart. I need now to remove the rest of the threaded part of the jet. By the way, I'm a diesel mechanic by trade so I have mechanic ability. Should I try to easy-out the plastic threaded part? I have tools and a snake camera. How about some advice? I don't want to Jack this up, thanks
lesliespool.com/waterway-gunite-venturi-tee-7-16in.-nozzle/364976.html This is a jet nozzle made by Waterway it should be interchangeable. Some plastic nozzles have 1/4 twist-lock make sure you pull out the original one and look at it before you order one.
@@JohnThePoolExpertGuy I've pulled out 3 of them undamaged and 2 of them I've had to drill with out damaging the thread but still need to remove the remaining. Should I just go at it with a tap or try a easy-out? Have you ever ran into this situation? By the way, thanks for the name of the jet. I'll get on that. I want 5 new jets, not putting old plastic crap back in my Spa.
@@martinskirzynski7798 I have cut them out, I've use a sprinkler removal tool, I have even glued a small pipe on to one let it set up over night and then twisted it out the next day. My advice is Use your imagination. Then let me know how it goes.
Hey man! Great videos!
I enjoyed it I am making a spa like this too and cirious about how many amps I need for this project 👍
I usually run a 50 amp breaker for a pool spa combo
John The Pool Expert ok thanks also does one 50 amp run it by itself or does the 50 run to a sub panel then branches off
@@heroknaderi
Normally your pool panel. Is a sub panel as well.
Thank you for the video!!!
Great video. How do you bend your pvc pipe? What size pump do you use for your spa jet returns? Is there a way to use one variable speed pump with and plumbing in the spa the way you show in this video?
You can use 1 vs pump and it will work but the Jets won't be quite as strong.
Here is my video on bending pipe ua-cam.com/video/_edkuq8ecMc/v-deo.html
I saw your comment about the 50amp thing....I am wondering if I have enough power to run a spa? I live in an are where our main power is only 40amps and half the time we are on generator that only gives 20 amps !!!! I am just starting to research spas so I don't know anything...but I do appreciate your videos.
With 20 or 40 amps it is difficult enough to have enough power for a house let alone a pool or Spa. They do make spas that run on 20 amps that are above ground. I would suggest getting a few solar panels that would run a spa.
@@JohnThePoolExpertGuy yes its tough but once you learn what you can can't run its golden ;) haha most folks actually only have 4-8amps.... thats tough. So I want to build an inground spa a DIY hahaha.....If I added the solar panels do you think I could do it? Assuming I can find the right materials here. Also one other question (actually i have a million but I am sure you have a million other comments to reply to) what do you think my biggest size could be for my power situation? And do you know of any specific website i could go to to learn more about all this stuff? As of now I am just browsing everything and reading as much as I can but going from knowing nothing is a little challenging...."But all things are possible..." If I was in the states I could go talk with people at pool stores or something but, we don't have that here. Thanks again!!!
I would like to know where the Lasco jets are located. I removes a return eye ball in my spa and found the removable jet nozzle has somehow fallen off and was stuck in a return eyeball. This is a inground pool spa and I now get no air activity in the spa. I also can see water in the 2" air intake pipe at the pool equipment . What do you think?
lesliespool.com/waterway-gunite-venturi-tee-7-16in.-nozzle/364976.html
This is a jet nozzle made by Waterway it should be interchangeable. Some plastic nozzles have 1/4 twist-lock make sure you pull out the original one and look at it before you order one.
If all of the jet nozzles are in it should start to work properly. Also if you remove the eyeballs it will work even better.
Is there a certain tool to unscrew spa jets? Mine is a out 8 years old and I want to unscrew my jets I believe something is blocking it.
Yes if it's like the one in this video it will use a standard socket with an extension either 9/16 or 3/4
Hello sir how many inch has to be the jet from the ribar end how many inch has to be next to inch other tank you
we have one on our pool that the last homeowner buried, what do you think if we dig it out? Do you think we can do that successfully ...?
Sure it's possible I've done it... just take your time and try not to break the pipe.
Great video. Our pool guy didn’t tell us that our spa was his first. We have 8 jets but they are regular pool jets with a 2hp motor. We barely have any pressure coming out of the “jets” and there’s no air connection at all. Can we get a bigger motor? Would that help? Trying to determine if there’s anything we can do short of getting it completely replumbed.
You could put smaller eyeball fittings so you have more pressure at the jets... but without venturi jets you can never get the air bubbles.
@@JohnThePoolExpertGuy ok...a minor nitpick....you don't increase pressure with a fitting...only velocity; the smaller the opening the less water and the pressure moves that smaller volume of water faster
@@universaldonor3100 hence Raising the pressure. !
@@universaldonor3100 put smaller eyeballs in your return lines and I know for a fact it raises filter pressure
@@MrBmxbrawler it doesn't raise pressure one psi....you should do some research on how pressure is defined
Great video ..I'm building a plunge pool myself ,do I still need 2 drains if my pool is only 6 feet wide ?
No.... usually you can install a channel drain if you don't have enough room and it will still be safe. Here is a link hopefully you can copy and paste it.
www.aquastarpoolproducts.com/ItemCatalog/32%22-Channel-Drain-Anti-Entrapment--Suction-Outlet-Cover-and-Frame
Harper loop? How tall must it be? It's higher than the pool beam Won't that stick out? Tnx.
Hartford Loop. And it must be even with the top of the beam or higher if you can get away with it. Don't forget concrete or something goes on top of that so you might have a little flexibility.
Are you going to encase that Hartford loop in concrete?
Yes
@@JohnThePoolExpertGuy can I consult with you on pool designs for an Engineering company in Florida? We would basically pay you to review plans that we complete.
@@axebeard7677
Sure not a problem send to eclipsecustomizedpools@gmail.com
How much does a job like this cost?
This particular job costs around $65,000
Hey i have a spa that just got built and the plumber put 2 drains in the bottom with only one suction line from the spa, and one suction line from the pool and one and they both are connected with a t jandy valve, the issue im having is the spillway does not have enough power to spill nice unless i completlely close off the spa suction any possible way i can fix this?
I can send you a pic of my plumbing it would really help me out brother!!
That is typically how It works. Normally the Spa suction is off unless in "spa mode" unless you have a completely separate set of equipment for your Spa.
So for a decent spillway you need 100% pool suction and 100% spa return. For regular filtration I usually set it for 100% pool suction and 50 - 50 pool and spa return.
A spa main drain line should be closed unless in spa mode, make sure suction is only open to the pool, and then you should also have a Jandy valve that controls water back to the pool, you should be able to split the water between pool and spa.
The other thing about spillways is they're often not constructed very great when it comes to efficient water shear. What is the spillway made of?Granite, tile, rocks?
Thank you both for the replies they really helped me put all is well now!
What size pipe is the spa suction line?
I have a pool that has the air intake line spit out water. Is that normal if not how do I fix. Thank you
It depends where the water is spitting out
@@JohnThePoolExpertGuy The air intake line is by pool equipment and I can see water in it when I remove the elbow 90. When I put back into pool mode the pipe that has air suction spits water out. I have never seen any lines do that. Is there like some type of check valve along air intake plumbing line. Thank you
@@herbertperez4082
Typically that happens when a jet is plugged, covered, or if the jets have adjustable pressure and a few of them are turned off. First I would check to see if all the jets are flowing the same. Then I would take a shop vac and blow the line out. From the equipment to the pool.
Hey John, can spa light be reinstalled if spa light cord is stuck inside the conduit and pretty much done. Conduit is 150' away to junction box so no luck there, many tried. I want to add spa light in different direction with new conduit and separate connections. Partially demolishing spa seat, drill to make a new conduit and then replaster? or other alternatives? Thank you in advance !
If you could get ahold of the original conduit closer to the spa it would be pretty easy to cut it and pull out the light and rerun the conduit closer. If that's not possible then you would have to bust a hole through the step and put everything new.
By the way.....Were you able to pull out the ground wire that goes from the niche to the jbox?
John The Pool Expert bonding wire was pulled out from the spa side couple feet out then got stuck and they tried using 4x4 but it snapped pretty much right by the niche. They used fish tape from the junction box to grab on to the new spa light cord and fish tape also got stuck about 25’ deep. At this point human strength is not enough and nobody has tri pod rodder.. seems like something got mingled inside or sharp corner of conduit.. conduit goes around the pool covered with concrete along the way :/
@@Spartan_0916
What I have found when pulling out old lights solid steady pressure will never do it. It needs to be pulled from the pool or Spa side and it usually needs quick hard jerks to get it to start sliding. Sometimes I will take the cord and wrap it around a sledgehammer and swing it away from the light niche. Sounds like you may be past the point of removal though.
John The Pool Expert yes, we have tried everything at this point. Im just blaming myself for even touching the old spa light cause it was working fine but it was there since 2001. My only option now is plug the old niche and make a new one with its own conduit and separate connection. Im guessing spa seating area can be busted and drilled then re plastered for new hole/niche?
We put in a pool and spa last year. I'm just noticing the pressure coming out of the jets in the spa while it's in spa mode is not as strong as the pressure coming out of the pipes in the pool when it's in pool mode. Any thoughts on why that would be the case? Thank you!
Having the same issue!
Do you have 2 different pumps to run your system? 1 for spa heat return and 1 for the jets?
Good day John
The bulk head jets do I need air pump to get bubbles in the spa or the air will generate from the air hole ??
Only if the jets are far away from the end of the Air line
Why does my spillover spa jets only work when I manually lower the water level 3 inches?
Because the air loop is too low. Look up "hartford loop" on Google you will see what I mean.
Thanks!
Is it ok to use flexible PVC on air lines ??
It will work but I prefer hard pipe
John! Thanks for the video now I know what type of jet I have in my Spa and how it draws air and why it 20" away from the opening of my Spa. Q #1: I just need to buy that Lasco jet insert (jet only) where can I buy them? Not finding them on the internet. Could be looking at poor websites. Q #2: Those jets are made out of plastic. Guess what happened as I tried to remove a few of them, the head broke off. Drilled it out because there was debris behind the jet from a filter grid that came apart. I need now to remove the rest of the threaded part of the jet. By the way, I'm a diesel mechanic by trade so I have mechanic ability. Should I try to easy-out the plastic threaded part? I have tools and a snake camera. How about some advice? I don't want to Jack this up, thanks
lesliespool.com/waterway-gunite-venturi-tee-7-16in.-nozzle/364976.html
This is a jet nozzle made by Waterway it should be interchangeable. Some plastic nozzles have 1/4 twist-lock make sure you pull out the original one and look at it before you order one.
@@JohnThePoolExpertGuy I've pulled out 3 of them undamaged and 2 of them I've had to drill with out damaging the thread but still need to remove the remaining. Should I just go at it with a tap or try a easy-out? Have you ever ran into this situation?
By the way, thanks for the name of the jet. I'll get on that. I want 5 new jets, not putting old plastic crap back in my Spa.
@@martinskirzynski7798
I have cut them out, I've use a sprinkler removal tool, I have even glued a small pipe on to one let it set up over night and then twisted it out the next day.
My advice is Use your imagination. Then let me know how it goes.