In NC it is a felony for any prison employee to have sex with an inmate. I don't know what happens in SC. I was also a correctional nurse in a men's prison.
What Susan did was unspeakably cruel. And what this creepy weirdo did was unethical. He was a safe keeper of female inmates. By SC law, no way can sex between an inmate and a CO be consensual. He’s no different than a calculated rapist. Sure, she probably was willing and took the opportunity, she got what she wanted as a result and that was a transfer to a prison closer to her family. But he was hired to keep order, safeguard, and police the women’s prison. He threw away his career for a roll in the hay and in recent years he’s appeared singing like a parakeet in any show that will pay for his story. He’s an opportunist and he needs to sit his nasty tail down somewhere and just shut up.
I noticed when she asked him when his relationship became personal and he starts rambling about his boss who died rather than addressing her question. What he did was so wrong so he doesn't want to talk about that. He wants to say his boss (now deceased) had told him to listen and be sympathetic to the inmates but I cannot imagine his boss told him to be intimate with them. I think they are as messed up as the inmates with mental problems if they fool around with them. You are so right. He needs to shut his nasty self up, lol.
@@sarabethleewilliams5610 i mean, he said she knew better than to be intimate with staff... does he NOT realize her reasoning... i mean the woman killed her kids....
If he was my boyfriend or husband, I would not have him speak. He needs an attorney to speak on his behalf. He is making this whole interview worse on himself and his family.
I think it was her fault she knew what she was planning. Because she wanted out . There’s a saying in Spanish more or less like an example. Who can run from Bread when it’s giving a way free
'Preyed', as in ,the lion chased it's prey...By the way an horny old goat will try to get it where they can, 'you can't r*pe the willing'. It'd be worse if he'd forced himself but was a 'quid pro quo' type thing, unethical yes, but it was consensual.Susan Smith is a master at manipulation and most men's weakest spot is in their groin area .
I was in the psych ward once, for less than a day, just to see a psychiatrist, and one of the officers on duty was trying to hit on me. He kept coming around, asking me questions, wanted to know why I was in there, and kept asking if I was staying 😳. I was 18 and he was probably around 30. It was creepy. Imagine if I was admitted and medicated 🤦🏾♀️
From a Legal Perspective, Yes. Definitely. Let's not also forget, that She is a Master Manipulator, Narcissistic Borderline Personality Type....Attention Seeking Behavior, and Gramps Fell directly into Her Trap.....Ultimately, He should have Professionally Sidestep around Suzy Floozie.....
11.11.2024 Wow, what a double standard!! He went on about female inmates receiving Instruction Booklets/Info on their behavior & that she ignored them; yet didn't bother to mention that I'm sure Staff/Guards are issued info/instructions on how to behave themselves. What a jerk ...🤨
Disgusting 🤢 No real man would have any type of relationship or s*x with a cold blooded killer of children!!!!!!! She needs to spend the rest of her life in prison. And he should be in prison for what he did too.
I'm sure his family is so proud he slept with a woman convicted of killing her two sons. SMH As if his opinion matters in regard to whether she is ready for parole or not. He broke the law as well.
This guy is disgusting. I used to work in a prison. I was not a correctional officer and didn’t go through the trainings that the C.O.s did, but I knew to not get chummy, not talk about personal things and not be alone with inmates. He knew it was wrong.
Well, it's not the first time a man threw caution to thewind , and jeopardizing their job or marriage to the wind to get laid and won't be the last time... Susan knew exactly what she was doing...
@ A lot of women at the prison I worked at got involved with inmates including a former friend of mine. I was beyond shocked when I found out about it. Oh and the Catholic Chaplain did too.
I'm a nurse , not in a prison, however, it's absolutely forbidden to have romantic relationships with a patient. My adult patients have mostly been cognitive and capable of making their own decisions, it's still unethical and not allowed while they're a patient. It doesn't matter what the situation is
This guy has no shame. Being the rank of Captain, he knew what he was doing was wrong. Bet he was sleeping with other prisoners. Even though he was terminated there is a good chance he gets his SC Police Officers Retirement check every month. He should be brought up on charges.
@@AlBusillo-g1u Naw... Really? In South Carolina Correctional Officers fall under the South Carolina Police Officers Retirement System (PORS). Next time do your research before you comment. It helps you avoid looking foolish.
He knew right from wrong, he knew what he was doing was wrong, criminal. Fella you are full of it, you are the reason why you have no pension and benefits.
I’m Retired from NYSDOCCS, after 20 years. From the time I started until the time I retired, we were constantly reminded that “Inmates are wards of the state and cannot consent to sex. “To do so would also be cause for criminal charges. How a captain can put any blame on an inmate is BS.
When you place an unsophisticated person in a job that has duties/responsibilities that exceed their capablities, this outcome should be expected. A person whose is kind but weak, will be easy bait for a seared convict. He should never have been put in a position to interact with a highly manipulative convict. The blame IMO rests first on HR for hiring this one.
Issue is nobody wants to do the job with the pay and requirements. Lower the standards and this is what we get. Same with Police and DA's, Judges, etc....
This interview was like watching a train wreck - fascinating in its awfulness and yet hard to look away. This guy was manipulated, but doesn't see himself as the predator he really is- a duo of goofballs devoid of any morals or ethics. One of them deserves to stay in prison, and other should be there too.
My My, willing to bet Poppie’s grandchildren are so proud of this man. So he lost his career over a shag. South Carolina ranks 10th in the nation with the highest STD rate. Absolutely despicable!🤮
@lovepet4565 . Because by the time the story came out about how he had the illegal sexual relationship as a corrections officer with an inmate who legally could not give consent the state of South Carolina announced it had been to long and the statute of limitations had already passed.
Me either, most women in prison are there for other charges and miss their kids....I seriously doubt she was as popular as he says....I think that's part of his not taking responsibility
She should never be free, innocent babies that never stood a chance, she could have done anything else but she chose to end their lives in a most horrific way…
This is a mentally ill woman on medication, and he's in charge of her well-being as a corrections officer How is that an equal pairing This is horrific
I wonder what he offered in exchange. Employees of a jail, prison or even facility have power over their patients/inmates and can offer special treatment or commissary in exchange for sex
How is it rape when she gave him permission? I know what he did was illegal but did she do it willfully. However I think yes he should be charged to but I don't feel sorry for her either
He should have never been a corrections officer if he believes any % was the inmates fault for him having sex withe the inmate. Dang, what kind of training did they give him?
Sorry it's a 100% his responsibilities. He's in authority & she was a criminal. I hope he comes to realize that. She's in there for her crime, no surprise doesn't adhere to a rule in a book. Shame. I hope he comes to see the fault in his actions, can't repent if you don't take full responsibility .
Don’t blame her for it all. You did not have to take your pants down. You knew better also! You are trying to put the blame on her as much as I dislike her! It’s called disciplining yourself!
This is just gross to think about what his professional role is...then to have a relationship with a female inmate is wrong in so many ways. Corrupt i call it!! Wouldn't be proud of this interview. 😳
Placing half the blame on her is a cop out. He was in a position of power over her and she wasn’t having her needs met in prison. Our sexual needs don’t stop just because we’re in prison and sounds like the guards took advantage of that
I was a prison nurse. It was his responsibility to behave in a professional manner.
How did you like working with the inmates? Other prison personnel/nurses?
Absolutely
In NC it is a felony for any prison employee to have sex with an inmate. I don't know what happens in SC. I was also a correctional nurse in a men's prison.
Yes, of course. He is delusional too.
Definitely!
How do his children even let their children around a man who did this with a child killer???
I noticed his shirt and thought not my kid if he was my dad/ in law. His family must be so ashamed
What Susan did was unspeakably cruel. And what this creepy weirdo did was unethical. He was a safe keeper of female inmates. By SC law, no way can sex between an inmate and a CO be consensual. He’s no different than a calculated rapist. Sure, she probably was willing and took the opportunity, she got what she wanted as a result and that was a transfer to a prison closer to her family. But he was hired to keep order, safeguard, and police the women’s prison. He threw away his career for a roll in the hay and in recent years he’s appeared singing like a parakeet in any show that will pay for his story. He’s an opportunist and he needs to sit his nasty tail down somewhere and just shut up.
1 million %%%% agree!!!! He sounds like hes about to cry.. i think hes a "victim"
Not much in the moral department is he if he had relations...SMH.
Eeewwww. So gross
I noticed when she asked him when his relationship became personal and he starts rambling about his boss who died rather than addressing her question. What he did was so wrong so he doesn't want to talk about that. He wants to say his boss (now deceased) had told him to listen and be sympathetic to the inmates but I cannot imagine his boss told him to be intimate with them. I think they are as messed up as the inmates with mental problems if they fool around with them. You are so right. He needs to shut his nasty self up, lol.
@@sarabethleewilliams5610 i mean, he said she knew better than to be intimate with staff... does he NOT realize her reasoning... i mean the woman killed her kids....
I would say it was 100% his fault. He was in charge. She was incarcerated. He's delusional. She should stay in prison for her horrible crime.
If he was my boyfriend or husband, I would not have him speak. He needs an attorney to speak on his behalf. He is making this whole interview worse on himself and his family.
I think it was her fault she knew what she was planning. Because she wanted out . There’s a saying in Spanish more or less like an example. Who can run from Bread when it’s giving a way free
@@christinabaca5470 Claro que Sii. Y recuerdes algo....Mejor Solo que Mal AcompanYado......
@christinabaca5470 Y'all also say It's better to Lonely than in Bad Company. 👎
@@Garybob-e9q
A prisoner, under any circumstance, cannot consent. Therefore he is an admitted rapist.
I said that, and my comment was reported as harassment.
Yea, technically.
So, he prayed upon not just a female inmate, but one in a psych ward. That's far worse! Sir, you are a predator!
Sorry, preyed upon, not prayed.
'Preyed', as in ,the lion chased it's prey...By the way an horny old goat will try to get it where they can, 'you can't r*pe the willing'. It'd be worse if he'd forced himself but was a 'quid pro quo' type thing, unethical yes, but it was consensual.Susan Smith is a master at manipulation and most men's weakest spot is in their groin area .
I was in the psych ward once, for less than a day, just to see a psychiatrist, and one of the officers on duty was trying to hit on me. He kept coming around, asking me questions, wanted to know why I was in there, and kept asking if I was staying 😳. I was 18 and he was probably around 30. It was creepy. Imagine if I was admitted and medicated 🤦🏾♀️
You like his shirt
Nothing says "family man" like a pawpaw who relieves himself with a psychopath who drowned her innocent babies. @@RobertaFierro-mc1ub
He shouldn't be speaking. He took advantage of an inmate.
From a Legal Perspective, Yes. Definitely. Let's not also forget, that She is a Master Manipulator, Narcissistic Borderline Personality Type....Attention Seeking Behavior, and Gramps Fell directly into Her Trap.....Ultimately, He should have Professionally Sidestep around Suzy Floozie.....
@@Garybob-e9q Agreed. Let's hope she's never released.
There is no such thing as taking advantage of a woman like Susan. She is a master at what she does to get what she wants.
@@CarrieS0703 Doesn't matter who she is. He was an authority figure in a jail. He shouldn't be speaking about it.
11.11.2024
Wow, what a double standard!! He went on about female inmates receiving Instruction Booklets/Info on their behavior & that she ignored them; yet didn't bother to mention that I'm sure Staff/Guards are issued info/instructions on how to behave themselves. What a jerk ...🤨
Why isn’t he behind bars?
So he expects a woman who watched her babies drown to "know better" he was the only one trusted to "know better"
This dirty old man was in a position of authority and should have kept his thing in his pants.
Disgusting 🤢 No real man would have any type of relationship or s*x with a cold blooded killer of children!!!!!!! She needs to spend the rest of her life in prison. And he should be in prison for what he did too.
I'm sure his family is so proud he slept with a woman convicted of killing her two sons. SMH As if his opinion matters in regard to whether she is ready for parole or not. He broke the law as well.
Andy Warhol's fifteen minutes of fame
This guy is disgusting. I used to work in a prison. I was not a correctional officer and didn’t go through the trainings that the C.O.s did, but I knew to not get chummy, not talk about personal things and not be alone with inmates. He knew it was wrong.
Well, it's not the first time a man threw caution to thewind , and jeopardizing their job or marriage to the wind to get laid and won't be the last time... Susan knew exactly what she was doing...
@ A lot of women at the prison I worked at got involved with inmates including a former friend of mine. I was beyond shocked when I found out about it. Oh and the Catholic Chaplain did too.
I'm a nurse , not in a prison, however, it's absolutely forbidden to have romantic relationships with a patient. My adult patients have mostly been cognitive and capable of making their own decisions, it's still unethical and not allowed while they're a patient. It doesn't matter what the situation is
They are not correctional officers, they are not capable of correcting anything, they are prison guards.
I'm cringing that his grandkids names are on display. Poor choice
Really!!
He is just proud of his grandchildren. Rather see that, rather than a kiss concert tshirt.😅
@@sonyagraske376Oh stop it. 😂 This creep does not need to be blasting his grandchildren's names all over the Internet.
@@missychan63 I agree. 😄
Absolutely. How embarrassing , freak
Why are we seeing this guy? Have we sunk that low?
GOOD POINT.
Exactly. What in the hell? 😲
Have you seen who's the elected president to be!!!😮
This guy has no shame. Being the rank of Captain, he knew what he was doing was wrong. Bet he was sleeping with other prisoners. Even though he was terminated there is a good chance he gets his SC Police Officers Retirement check every month. He should be brought up on charges.
He was never a police officer. He was a jail guard.
@@AlBusillo-g1u Naw... Really? In South Carolina Correctional Officers fall under the South Carolina Police Officers Retirement System (PORS). Next time do your research before you comment. It helps you avoid looking foolish.
this guy is gross... can't even watch him to halfway
How creepy he is !!!!!
About as creepy as her but not quite. Lol
He looks nasty!!!
Did he get charged and convicted of rape????
Can you imagine finding out your grandpa went on TV to voluntarily talk to reporters for THIS reason? 😬
🤬🤬
with the names of his grandchildren sprawled across his shirt?! 🤦♀
If he did it with one inmate he has done it with others. Sick!
This guy is so disgusting!
YOU were in charge Captain NOT Susan, own it FFS!!!!
He knew right from wrong, he knew what he was doing was wrong, criminal. Fella you are full of it, you are the reason why you have no pension and benefits.
How can anyone have relations with someone who killed their children?
He wasn't thinking with his brain!!!
Why isn't he in jail?
This man should be charged. I'm a retired C/O. This is unacceptable.
I’m Retired from NYSDOCCS, after 20 years. From the time I started until the time I retired, we were constantly reminded that “Inmates are wards of the state and cannot consent to sex. “To do so would also be cause for criminal charges. How a captain can put any blame on an inmate is BS.
Creepy old man was thinking with his little head instead of using good judgement.
When you place an unsophisticated person in a job that has duties/responsibilities that exceed their capablities, this outcome should be expected. A person whose is kind but weak, will be easy bait for a seared convict. He should never have been put in a position to interact with a highly manipulative convict. The blame IMO rests first on HR for hiring this one.
Issue is nobody wants to do the job with the pay and requirements. Lower the standards and this is what we get. Same with Police and DA's, Judges, etc....
He's not kind but weak, he's a predator and he knew better!
@@ridingtheroad185 agreed. It is interesting how the prison system keeps repeating bad work practices over and over.
He should have reported to his Captain at the first contact. He saw a free piece.
One of the guards who had “time” with Susan went to jail for it, was it him?
This interview was like watching a train wreck - fascinating in its awfulness and yet hard to look away. This guy was manipulated, but doesn't see himself as the predator he really is- a duo of goofballs devoid of any morals or ethics. One of them deserves to stay in prison, and other should be there too.
They are 2 very broken and ignorant humans.
My My, willing to bet Poppie’s grandchildren are so proud of this man. So he lost his career over a shag. South Carolina ranks 10th in the nation with the highest STD rate. Absolutely despicable!🤮
🧠 Syhpilis
Ick
Why was he not charged
Cheaper just to Fire them, knowing they're ruined and can't File any Lawsuits.......@lovepet4565
@lovepet4565 . Because by the time the story came out about how he had the illegal sexual relationship as a corrections officer with an inmate who legally could not give consent the state of South Carolina announced it had been to long and the statute of limitations had already passed.
How can she be likable??? She murdered her children!!!! Anyone who befriends her is disgusting. I would never be friends with a child killer!
She's a vile person I don't really care what he did with het
Me either, most women in prison are there for other charges and miss their kids....I seriously doubt she was as popular as he says....I think that's part of his not taking responsibility
Both are sick individuals
She should never be free, innocent babies that never stood a chance, she could have done anything else but she chose to end their lives in a most horrific way…
His shirt should say 12 reason why Poppie is cringy….. 🤢
@@seakinireland Perfect!!
Why are people so shocked ?
"Dirty old man is as dirty old man does"...
I think he was a lot younger when this happened....still nasty and completely unethical
This is a mentally ill woman on medication, and he's in charge of her well-being as a corrections officer
How is that an equal pairing
This is horrific
This a sick man how dare he get interviewed
Not the "proud poppie" shirt😂
He's a vile, nasty old man, he's a predator and should be in jail. Wow!!!!
I wonder what he offered in exchange. Employees of a jail, prison or even facility have power over their patients/inmates and can offer special treatment or commissary in exchange for sex
What a loser.
Well he admitted to rape publicly.
Purt-Near......
How is it rape when she gave him permission? I know what he did was illegal but did she do it willfully. However I think yes he should be charged to but I don't feel sorry for her either
Why isn't this guy locked up? Absolutely disgusting.
In no way could this former correction captain defend himself from these females in prison. Just look at him. Lock him up ASAP.
He should have never been a corrections officer if he believes any % was the inmates fault for him having sex withe the inmate. Dang, what kind of training did they give him?
What a nasty creep. He's a predator.
Oh Lord ... I can't even watch the rest of this .... keep her in there, and he was WRONG too. Ewwwww ....
They were using him because they could tell he was slow
That part!
This whole interview is disguising! The way he describes her you would think all she did was rob a bank! They deserve each other!
Why wasn’t he sent to prison? She cudnt consent! Horrible guy
Sir, don't be using your cute grandpa shirt to evade accountability.
This creep is a predator
And he thought it was a good idea to check her oil. Have zero pity for him and I hope his wife left him and never looked back.
She was desperate and he took advantage of her. He should be locked up also!
He should be thrown in jail he's a rapist!!!! His poor grandchildren
I hope that this nasty old dude doesn’t play Santa. What an embarrassment to law enforcement. Keep him away from vulnerable individuals. 🤢🤢🤢🤢
She probably wasn't the only inmate he messed around with.
I can't listen to his voice, Thank goodness for the transcript.
"Some responsibility"????? This man should have gone to jail himself. It sounds like he wants to be seen as a victim. He's a predator.
I don’t think I would be wearing that shirt. Geeze
Sorry it's a 100% his responsibilities. He's in authority & she was a criminal. I hope he comes to realize that. She's in there for her crime, no surprise doesn't adhere to a rule in a book. Shame. I hope he comes to see the fault in his actions, can't repent if you don't take full responsibility .
This guy shouldn't be around children
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Why do Icare what another CRIMINAL thinks?
He is 100% responsible.
Geezuz what a creeper
What a prize that's what we got running our prison system 👎🤔🙉
He looks like he lives alone in a cabin in the woods
Lol yeah he does
Your grandchildren must be so proud.
Has he no shame with his bare face on camera.
Sure he supplied drugs too
Don’t blame her for it all. You did not have to take your pants down. You knew better also! You are trying to put the blame on her as much as I dislike her! It’s called disciplining yourself!
You sir should bear more of the burden. You try to place blame on her, but most should fall to you.
This is ridiculous!!
5 buck$ says smith wasn't the only one he was bangin'. Any takers for even money?
I thought the same thing there's probably more women. I definitely wouldn't take that bet of yours. 😂
Uh ewwwwww.
This is just gross to think about what his professional role is...then to have a relationship with a female inmate is wrong in so many ways. Corrupt i call it!! Wouldn't be proud of this interview. 😳
No you're responsible she was the inmate .
Why would dip it in crazy.. really you have no self control
I don’t believe this man.
He of all people should’ve know better he should know how manipulative, and conniving, some inmates can be .
Gross.
I can't believe this disgrace to law enforcement has the unmitigated gaul to show his face on TV. He should be in prison for preying on inmates.
So he is a correction officer with women with mental health issues. He is a sexual predator! He took advantage. Sick.
He’s strange she knew she could manipulate him
Skip to 11:10 to get to the point.
Both was wrong BUT HE SHOULD OF KNEW BETTER DUDE IT WAS YOUR JOB NOT TO BRIGHT
She took advantage of this man.
He should be at least charged with rape!
She must have wanted something else from him some freedoms in there
Placing half the blame on her is a cop out. He was in a position of power over her and she wasn’t having her needs met in prison. Our sexual needs don’t stop just because we’re in prison and sounds like the guards took advantage of that
Wait, he’s actually saying that a psychotic inmate was 50% responsible? What planet is he from? What a douche.
That guard is crazy . He has the upper hand and knows better.
This turkey should be in jail then made to join the registry. I maintain men should be co’s in male prisons and females in female prisons.
This man knew he was being manipulated, not that he knows what that word means, but he knows something wasn't right.
He called the female jaibirds "ladies." 😂
Filthy unprofessional deceptive predator creep .
Pathetic!
It takes 2
he is 1000 percent responsible. He was being paid to do a job
This guy is gross! He should also be behind bars.