The Twisted Tail of Tangle | Sonic Speed Reading
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- I do literally mean "tail." Her tale is actually pretty straightforward.
Today we talk about one of the newer characters in the Sonic universe! Tangle the Lemur! We break down her origin, design, powerset, personality, and relationships. Does she fit in the Sonic comic? Let's find out.
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The moment I saw Tangle’s design, I immediately said, “I want her to be a playable character in a new game.”
when i saw her with sonic, i thought "yeah, i could ship this"
@@Silver.Productions NO
i'd love for her gameplay to revolve around momentum and bouncing herself around with her tail, maybe she'd have an smb2 super jump-like move or an enhanced wall jump ability, or if characters shared levels, she could have some exclusive routes which sometimes are accessed with a grappling move
I do agree that’s a good idea, but I think we should stick with more obscure characters that deserve more of a chance to return from not appearing in so long. My pick would be Cosmo
I would want that too... if Sega didn't give the middle finger to any character who's not Sonic.
Tangle just screams "I'M SONIC CHARACTER" she's perfect and I want to see her and Whisper in the games
They are in Sonic forces app game
I feel like both would be able to have the best gameplay they seem fun
It’s fitting for a continuation of Sonic Forces.
@@rockmanmix6242 and now she's in a main game aka Sonic Frontiers. She was mentioned by Sonic while traversing Chronos island "I bet Tangle would love to climb these ruins."
"You're gonna pull my butt off" is a really good out-of-context screencap
The scene that follows after tho. ;-;
@@SeanGonzalezMDHEXT *cries*
Her face scares me 😰
@@GrandmasterDevo *cries more*
@@dragonmaster2453 shut
Ok just saying this, but Tangle, Whisper, and Jewel needs to be in the Modern Sonic Games
hummmm, what would those three be called, team freedom, naa too obvious
@@james739123 They do seem to fit the whole Speed, Fly, Power formation thing... Well, maybe. Does Power Formation fit Whisper?
Yo @John Oghomi! I haven’t seen you in a loooong time.
maybe sonic heroes 2?
The newbies!
Tangle best girl.
I really do love Tangle, she’s a simple character with a fun and quirky personality, great design, and has really fun interactions between characters, I’d be totally on board for having her in the games.
SAMEEEEEEE
Facts she has a lot of potential gameplay and story wise
@@ThatBoiDarius_ yeah,and she was introduced without the cost of any other character,except shadow who showed he want's the better for the world when arguing with sonic.So no big deal.
You see that would make a lot of people happy so you know it won't happen.
Yeah, we’d probably get another variation of Sonic playable before we’d get a likable character from the comics playable
Something I found interesting is that Tangle & Whisper got official merchandise being sold on Sega's online store, that's a first for a comic character being recognized like that. Now with that plus the comics finally releasing in Japan, it seems that Sega is putting more investment with the idw series than they ever had with Archie.
So did Sticks... Remember her...?
Merch of IDW characters? Where?
@@ManiacX1999 Sticks is a game character....
@@Geostelar4920 She was an *American game* character, Sonic team didn't make her...
Oh yeah it's happening.
Ngl tangle is probably one of my favorite new characters from the sonic series.
One her design actually not only has some of the best coloring but a design that complements that.
If she's in the next sonic game I wouldn't be surprised.
If these guys could make characters like this then they should actually be working on the new sonic games.
Same!
Facts
Manek Iridius
With that logic, Blaze in the original Rush was patronizing. “You should never do things by yourself even when you’re doing a good job and clearly don’t need any help, just be friends with the creepy extroverts who cling onto you for no reason and don’t respect your personal space. Also, being introverted means you must have some tragic backstory because nobody would ever be introverted otherwise.”
Remember that hashtag to get Flynn working on a script for a game? Honestly, they have all the resources they need for a kickass game, so they should use them
Yall are seriously arguing about this? Wow, go do something else instead of arguing on the UA-cam comment section
I really like Tangle and Whisper. They are a very interesting dynamic.
Tangle and Whisper would be great in the mainline Sonic games. Perfect game material right there.
Manek Iridius Sniper, Rocket launcher, Hammer, anti Eggman spec ops. Practically 5 Wispons assigned that can be used at anytime assigned to one character.
@@AAhmou but there is already a sniper in sonic media....
@@zionthedragon8866 fang? i can only think of 2 occasions in archie sonic where he actually uses a rifle, any other time hes almost always seen using his handguns
imo whisper does a much better job of having the whole "sniper/scout" motif
@@yourehereforthatarentyou fang doesn't use it alot of a sniper rifle in the archie comics, that's true; but fang is his AMERICAN name, while Fang the SNIPER is his Japanese name, and he actually appears in some videogames.
Also you can snipe without a snipe rifle. And the fact he can get good shots while moving on his tail, with a hand gun, makes him way better at the sniper gig than whisper. Plus, like shadow, both use REAL guns, more or less.
@@zionthedragon8866 But people are gonna get real pissed if they have real guns for the characters like they did with the Shadow game, plus Whisper seems more like a sonic character tbh
My theory: Both Tangle and Whisper are the comic creator's stand-ins for "Buddy", the avatar from Sonic Forces.
- Tangle takes the fans' "I wana be friends with Sonic instantly" mentality, while her tail represents that character's grappling hook that s/he uses.
- Whisper is the fans' "I wanna make a cool, edgy character" mentality, while her wispon-gun represents "Buddy"'s own wispons that s/he can select (in Whisper's case, all of them).
Since both characters are, as mentioned, two extremes of one another, they fit pretty much any aspect that a player could place into their avatar.
I mean, Whisper isn't "edgy" but i can see what you are saying
@@Whispangle Well, I suppose not as edgy as Shadow, but her origin story and general mood is a lot more subdued. I guess "darker" is a better way to describe it, compared to Tangle's "peppy" demeanor.
I think they represent the two main gameplay elements of the avatar: the grapple line, and the wispon.
Well, Whisper WAS designed after an item from sonic forces
@@Moj1989Why is it that wherever I go edgy = Shadow?
Wow, there’s sure a TANGLE of comments here...
I’ll leave now.
Jin Kaleb I thot it was ok
Ok, bye.
😂😂😂
The door is that way...
please don't
I really hope we see Tangle and Wisper in the next Sonic Game.
Unlikely, the comics are only just starting to release in Japan this May. The addition of comic characters in general is unlikely, sure it's not impossible and Sega does 100% own this character unlike the Archie OC's that are partially owned by their respective comic leads, I would let Sega know there's demand and be hopeful for later games.
Maybe not game, but potential tv show?
@@ja-cai I'd love a show similar to the old Satam with the IDW characters and stories.
Whisper is the only reason to keep the wisps around. Period. Buuuuuuuuuut the games do really need to keep it basic now, even if they go the piece-meal story Adventure route again. I mean, Tangle and Whisper as background characters, maybe doing things in levels to aid whoever's level it is (think Wedge distracting the dogs in that one topside mission from Final Fantasy VII Remake) could work well, and I do ADORE the two of them as characters and as a duo, but no. Not now. Not a good time to throw them in.
Well they are in mobile games, thats a great start tbh
1:38 Like she's really, really, Really into it.
Tangles Best Girl now, won't change my mind.
Can confirm
She wants that tail _stretched_
*kinky*
Tangle and whisper are both best girls, but they also cannot be, I cannot figure out which one is better girl. Maybe they can both be best girl, but idk
Tangle the lemur x sonic the hedgehog
@@Jpimwgliv tangle the lemur x whisper the wolf
It's really nice of you to introduce Tangle to more people here, since i know there is some that doesn't know her or Whisper. Honestly, she is one of the best characthers introduced in the series. I think what made me love her so much is her relationship with whisper. Especially in their Spin-Off comics. They really care for each other and it's one of the most adorable things ever. As much as i want to see both of them in the games, i am afraid that Sonic Team will (and i definitely know they will) ruin these characthers. That's why we need Ian Flynn or other writer in the games that knows these characthers that well.
Ian Flynn doesn't know the characters. He shouldn't be on the games. Shiro Maekawa, Kiyoko Yoshimura, and Akinori Nishiyama along with Yuji Naka and Naoto Oshima do.
@@bunsmasterbunny Oh yeah, and that's why Sonic Forces was so good, right?
Tangle is easily my favorite character in the IDW Comics.
I love her personality and her Design I also agree with you that she (along with whisper) needs to be in the games cause they both have a lot of potential gameplay wise
I also hope that she gets more time in the comics and a backstory as well great vid btw
Tangle's play style would fit best in an Adventure game, Whispers would work best in an RPG.
@@NoxideActive maybe you could choose which Wispon you want to use with a joystick or the arrow keys? That could probably work for a Sonic game.
Tangle is actually pretty good in my opinion.
And a good change of pace
@@NoNamex1412 "Time for a change of Pace!"
@@Whispangle " it will take more than that to defeat us"
you know your characters are good when the first thing that comes to my mind ,when i see them for the first time, is "Wow i want them in game", I know nothing about Tangle Whisper and Jewel yet I'm already in love with how they're designed and the tiny bit of info i got about them! (come on sega, give us sonic heroes 2...)
Every new character from IDW really hit it off for me they all fit in the sonic universe and Tangle is the best of the best
Ian Flynn really knows how to make characters and story (unlike some other comic artist out there) i never cared about archie original character to be represented on the games, but tangle and whisper are so well made that i really want them on a future sonic game, also let's make the petition for flynn to write the next sonic game pls
They should experiment with Flynn to see what happens. If reception in story alone is strong, get him whenever he has the chance. If reception is weak, go back to whomever they’re using (Pontec and Graff were fired, and thank God they were).
Pen Kenders
*sigh* You're going to make me actually read this comic at this rate.
do it
Do it. Please do it.
Are you reading yet?
@@exceedcharge1 Yep, And I don't regret it.
@@TsuikeNovaus
Just started recently myself, its amazing
Tangel is definitely one of the best things about the IDW comics.
Also that horse is Sir Connery.
If Sega came out with another Sonic Heroes game, I'd love to see a Tangle, Whisper, and Jewel team!
What would you call this team?
@@geniuskhan2520 Good question. I'd have to think about that.
I think Team Diamond would be a good name for them, because those who have seen the miniseries for Tangle and Whisper, the wolf’s team was called the Diamond Cutters (that’s as far as I’ll go with spoilers for those who haven’t seen it). In addition, Tangle has a peppy attitude and brilliance similar to that of a diamond, and Jewel just looks like one for God’s sake.
As far as how the formation goes, Whisper handles pretty much all of those standpoints: she can fly with Hover and bash and destroy with the other Wisps. But I would limit her to a power type, because Jewel doesn’t really do much other than fly and I haven’t seen her be of other use so she’s the flyer. Tangle would be the speed type, because of her tail she can shoot herself and her team for good distances, and can hold her own pretty well.
That’s just what I think of this, anyone’s free to tweak things and give some information I may not know
Can't wait until the Whisper episode, she's my all-time favorite!!!
same, i freakin love her
Tangle is just an adorable, buzzy ball of energy and I love her! She leaps in completely unafraid, and her character growth is steady - not abrupt, but not a crawl that makes you bang your head against the wall. She reminds me of Bunnie, with her crazy tail like Bunnie's arms and her can do attitude.
I also love her whole look; they really chose her colors carefully, and they blend together so well. Such a restful palate for such an energetic character.
I love that Sir Connery got a shout out lol that is a super obscure reference 😂 but I really enjoy how you’re able to break down the “mechanics” if you will, of what makes a character interesting.
Good stuff man! Keep on rocking
Why do lemurs look scary and adorable at the same time
In the real life animal's case, it's those big, staring eyes contrasted with their overly social attitude. So, a lemur could legit emotionelessly stare at you with psychopathic levels of interest (from a human's perspective) while eating berries, petting your hair or grooming their children.
In Tangle's case, it's because she's a genuinely good person with abnormal levels of excitement for everything she does.
Like, there are panels in the comics where she has genuinely evil smiles while asking for... Hugs.
I, uh, hope this helps! XD
@@twaggytheatricks4960 *woosh*
She was confirmed along with Whisper for Sonic Forces: Speed Battle, one step closer to appear in a video game!
I absolutely love these speed reading episodes
I do too.
This video is my first introduction to this character, and I already want her in a game. (Granted, I also want more Blaze the Cat, but I'm kinda like you in the "More the merrier" crowd.)
"To Sonic, it's just another Tuesday" Didn't expect an M.Bison quote...
Tangle is so spontaneous and zippy, I love her character. Can't wait to hear what you've got to say about Whisper, too. I'm really fond of Whisper because of how introverted she is, probably coming from an introverted person like myself.
Tangle is Awsome, She is a fun character, same goes to Whisper, if IDW brings the Satam Characters in with new origins and designs, I like to See Tangle and Whisper meet Sally and Bunnie and become good friends XD, or Rotor amazed by the Wispon Whisper carries and would like to make upgrades versions of them and Antoine being himself as always.
other then that I love these characters and they have the potential to be in games if you do them right in their characters and abilites
I wonder... In the Distant Future, will you ever cover "Console Wars" by Blake J. Harris? It contains the original origin story for Tails and you can't have the history of SEGA without Sonic.
That IDW art looks awesome!
When I first saw tangle I didn't really like her as much. But then, going further she reminded me of a friend I had in middle school.
"Bring back horse guy" I was laughing so hard at that. Such an obscure character only I would know. 10/10 dude.
Tangle is such a cool character that I hope to see her in the next game
Me: she cute
The internet: hippity hoppity you are a furry
Me since 2013: YES I AM!
"If it makes me a furry, so be it."
-iDubbbzTV
You got me laughing at that part about the horse guy XD
"Hello there I'm ______" XD we can barely even hear Nick
I think it's Nick, but I didn't hear him this time either
These have been really nice to watch. I really enjoy your character analysis. Makes reading the book all the more enjoyable
1:32 - 1:42 I just found this part way too funny the way Nick is zooms up to the panels slowly and has a good focus on their facial expressions while he slowly explains how odd this scene makes him feel.
* never going to dance again plays very loudly *
Game Apologist: Also like Sonic pulling on her tail is uh, I mean like he looks really into it! And boy she uh, she's REALLY into it! I mean like *REALLY* into it!
Me: Wait a minute... Are YOU SHIPPING?!
Kai Studio's be careful when using those words next to Sonic, you know what happens next
Sangle
@@frostbite6010 Oh god. My french self is not liking that ship name.
Nibl20 I see it already, Deviantart artists waking up just to draw 2 animals mating
@@cb2327 HAHA! 😂 Man, you guys! But seriously though, I can imagine some Deviantart Artists shipping the two! 🙁 (This is what happens when you decide to become a Deviant on Deviantart. DANG IT!) Also... DON'T TELL SONIC I SAID THAT!
Really love your humor in these, thanks for going over the comics
Tangle has what I like to call “ADHD crackhead energy”. Just straight up chaotic good. Absolutely my favorite character from the IDW comics.
Also I envision her of having an Australian accent and none of you can convince me otherwise.
Tangle is is one of the best comic characterswe've gotten in years. I know its unlikely but it'd be great she made the jump to games. I see allot of potential in that stretchable tail of hers.
When I saw issue 27, I was really sad because of what happened because my childhood is the Sonic Advance series and Sonic Battle.
Don't ever say infection when talkin' about this series, I'm still thinking about the most recent issue.
I hope it'll continue soon.
@@Mysticgamer june 20th, i believe, is when issue 28 comes out
Thanks for inspiring me to pick up the entire series with these videos. I especially loved the Tangle & Whisper series, it was super well done.
Honestly Tangle, Jewel and Whisper SCREAMS
Hero team
Just
Team Spiral
We got a flyer, speedster and buster
In the edited words of palpatine (considering yesterday was star wars day) "I've been waiting a not very long time for this, my little green friend!" Man, these are so good!
Tangle is a delight. I am really fond of her. :)
Another great video, by the way! I really appreciate this series, dude. I'm not kidding when I say this stuff is really helping me get through a tough time.
Love these comic reviews, thanks Apologist!
I am stoked to read more about her. I only recently came across the first and fourth trades of the ISW run, and since I haven't found 2 and 3 yet I've only read the first. I really love what was in there already (I'm glad I wasn't the only one raising an eyebrow at Tangle's expressions when tail-flinging, though I figured those were just "exertion" faces), and really can't wait to see more.
Your other vid regarding the beginning of the IDW run was mucho helpful too, since I had no context going in as to what kind of continuity we were dealing with (and have basically only truly played through the classic series an a bit of Adventure 1).
Keep up the fine work!
Can’t wait for Tingle.
Tangle's tail reminds me of Sonic's wherehog form, and how it's very flexible and stretchy and at the same time it's strong and can easily destroy eggman's robots.
Your speedreadings got me really interested in the comics and when I saw Tangle I immediately fell in love with her! She is such a neat character and I *really* want her to be in a future Sonic game!
i REALLY need to get caught up on this series
Good video! Glad more and more people are getting acquainted with the cast of IDW's Sonic comics. It's a damn shame it's currently on hiatus given the [REDACTED], but considering how they've been expanding this particular canon using Sonic Forces as a launchpad, I can't help but appreciate the work both the writers and the artists onboard have put into it so far.
4:29 Ristar might be the most criminally underused character Sega has ever had. He got one amazing Genesis game 25 years ago, and a pretty decent port on Game Gear. It's hard to believe he's been limited to rare cameos after all this time. Nobody wants to see a genuine demigod be limited to waving flags around at a racetrack. The dude travels between planets at light speed, and that was when he was basically a newborn. There's no telling what else he can do.
According to sonic fronteirs, TANGLE IS CANON NOW! Let’s go!
Hey is it me or does Tangle reminds me sometimes reminds me of Tigger from Winnie the Pooh, with the way she uses her tail
Actually, with her long prehensile tail, she reminds me a lot of that cartoon character called Marsupilami.
Hey Nick! Keep up the great content and I’ll keep watching.
Justice for horse guy! Okay but seriously, thanks for making this video, Tangle is by far one of my favorite Sonic characters and you did a great job covering her personality and everything I love about her! Great job and stay safe in these trying times
Wait, this's just a restraining teaser for the big comic episode of Unapologetic, isn't it?
I just caught up on IDW Sonic last night, including reading Tangle and Whisper and the first two issues of Bad Guys. I absolutely want to watch the rest of these now!
You are amazing. I always look forward to your videos.
I luv her! I see why some ship her and Whisper together as these 2 are polar opposites after all.
Really enjoying these videos so far 👍
Oh man you are getting these videos out fast. I respect the grind.
Yay I’m pretty early
Everybody who sees this, have a nice day! 😃
Same to you 👌
basiccaveman Thanks 👌
I hope you have a nice day as well.
Uno reverse card
Great character disruption without spoiling the story and that's coming from me a person who originally didn't like Tangle too much.
But she found a way to have me open up to her.
Hopefully Sega and Sonic Team takes your advice and carefully recontextualize these characters and not have them sidelined forever if Mighty and Ray can make it back I'm sure the FF can too. Way past cool video, my dood.
My heart sunk when you mentioned Hyper Sonic.
3:49 best part of casino Forest ost
That was another great video. Tangle and Whisper are probably my two favorite characters in the book so far. I really really want to see these characters in a game. Tangle could be a lot of fun to play as. Not to spoil the arc, but the arc so far has that sort of Sonic Game setup. I don't think it'll happen, but if they really are trying to unify Sonic media, it'd be amazing to see this arc in a game format. Optimistic thinking, I know. At the very least i'd love to see Tangle and/or Whisper in a game, playable or not.
I related to Tangle so much when she was in that safe, cuz I'm super claustrophobic too :P
Also I just wanted to say, great video!
I really like the IDW comics too, and I love how you explain them and talk about character stuff like this.
I definitely wouldn't be apposed to other characters you'd talk about like Dr. Starline, Whisper, and that one octopus character who's name I forgot and I feel kinda bad about it, cuz he references Sonic.EXE and I loved that lol
I've also read a lot of the Archie comics when they were still a thing and...OH BOY, I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE CONFUSION ON YOUR FACE XD
6:24 that Saturn Sonic 3D Blast Rusty Ruin music. Absolute perfection
This music is beautiful, is that a remix? Please tell where does it come from.
@@alexandrachernysh7 no. It's from the Saturn version of Sonic 3D blast. Rusty Ruin zone.......
@@RazoE Oh, thank you so very much, I found it))
Tangle is a great addition to the Sonic series. I just love her extroverted, hyper personality. Whenever she fangasms over something cool, it makes me smile😊. And her elastic tail is very cool. Imagine her being playable in the games. She would defiently be interesting to use. Anyways, while I do love her, she isn't my favourite. That goes to another IDW hero that you will hopefully talk about in the future.
@Manek Iridius Despite her personality sorta being what I said, it isn't in a way where you want to punch her. She is still compotent and doesn't annoy anyone. Maybe "hyper" wasn't the right word to use. I think "energetic" or "excitable" are better words for her personality.
Tangle.. tangled my heart.
It's been a while since I've read the archie stuff, and I was not even gonna bother getting into a new continuity with Sonic comics, but this video has made me very interested in picking the series up. I just bought the first three volumes on amazon. Looking forward to reading them. Still miss Sally, tho...
For anyone who misses pre-reboot Archie, let them know about Archie Sonic Online, a fan made continuation of pre-reboot Archie. There are not many comics, but it gives me my fill on the Freedom Fighters
Okay, Sonic and Tangle could be a duo in a new Sonic Game
My headcanon: Tangle mistaked dark gaia energy for shampoo, that is why her tail is so stretchy while keeping fur on it.
Nice job on the video man! You've earned a sub
1:23 How dare they introduce a new character without their name being bold and having a trademark
I think this video here just sold me on the comics purely based on Tangle and Whisper, I have a very relatable friendship to that!
7:46 Tangle's face is amazing in this sean
Everything you said about Tangle and what Tangle is about is literally me. I feel like I'm looking in a mirror and I'm so happy.
This video made my night. I've utterly adored most, if not, all of the new characters added by IDW. With that, I've gotta admit something. I've never liked the Freedom Fighters. I did not like their designs (until later renditions) and I've always felt they did not fit with the Sonic aesthetic personally. I'm aware of some story beats (most revolving around Sally and Bunny) but even then, I did not catch their charms. So really, I'm hoping that you can highlight what makes the Freedom Fighters so great and why so many people like them.
i know this was 5 months ago but whatever...
i have to contest the idea they didn't fitt in, i would say some (rotor) don't really fit in, i would argue others (like sally and bunny) are about rogue the bat level most of the time (there are issues where they are drawn in a different style tho) or closer to tails. and sally's earliest form is extremely similar to classic sonic and tales.
I genuinely do not understand how people hate Ian Flynn, that man can do no wrong...mostly
Tangle is a great addition to the universe.
The more I see of her, the more I like her. Her attitude is almost contagious, in a way.
I'm really hoping that we see her along with -waifu- Whisper and Jewel. I think they could be an interesting team of characters to play with.
Tangle is such an amazing character! Love to see her in the next Sonic Game!
Tangle’s optimism and lovable attitude are why I really want her in a game, she’d be a great contrast to all the moping that seems to be going on in Forces & Frontiers, she’d be a welcome ray of sunshine. But then again, it would also be heartbreaking to see her getting beaten down and put in harms way, just like in the Metal Virus arc.
I don’t like Whisper much, but her reaction to Tangle getting infected was pretty much the same as mine.
I’d love to see you cover the Archie series in all of the instances it does cover the games, and certainly any coverage on characters like Nack, Ray, Chaotix, etc
Anyone else been listening closely to Sonic's overworld dialogue in Frontiers?
Tangle is just Awesome, I can see her as a friend to Sally and Bunnie
She quickly became my favorite character in the idw comics
*Sonic meets a lemur girl who will eventually become essential to his crew, bears witness to Blaze coming to his dimension, destroys a giant bomb buzz robot dropper robot thing bing and does other wacky stuff*
Sonic: Just another tuesday.
God i love her character so much, hoping she and whisper get in the games.
Not gonna lie. I haven't caught myself up with IDW Sonic Comic yet, but this video makes me want to put all of my personal responsibilities aside just to read those comics 😆😆😆
Tangled does have a nice design. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff on her design, but the colors and shapes balance all of it out
Tangle is just so goddamn cute! X3
God, I just love everything about the IDW Comics. They're just so full of character and love
Tangle: exists Neck beards: heavy breathing