Sad to think that two years ago, they were looking at repairing or replacing it and now it is in danger of collapse… Where does the responsibility live for all the damage that this break will cause?
Responsibility? For what being gullible enough to buy property that has the potential to flood if a dam fails?that's on the homeowner not being very wise about purchasing real estate,most people know better than to buy land in a potential flood plain,if you don't then that is pretty funny,responible😂😂
@@marumiyuhimeNot here in the USA. In English, most nouns don’t have gender, particularly for objects which are not alive. However, in rare instances, things are personified, and in this case, Old Man River is a sort of folksy personification of a river, (usually the Mississippi, but not in this case).
@@michaelimbesi2314 I am a native speaker of new england english stop being pertinent i have lived in central mass my whole life get a grip. who are you to tell me anything. pls stop
@@michaelimbesi2314 rivers have always been female in european culture no one said anything about words. moon fem sun masculine river fem sky mas air mas earth fire mas water fem its philosophy not language hun. RIvers are a female entity. not all of us are christian sir or even identify with judeocristian culture i follow my native european culture and religion TY hail mother frigg
@@michaelimbesi2314 river/water is a mother earth is a mother sky is a father fire is a father cheers. this is native european culture and philosophy. TYVM
From what I see, the dam didn't fail, the design did. Even if the dam had been renovated, the problem was the obstruction of the dead trees. Unless this issue would have been addressed, the washout was going to occur eventually. Now the dam MUST be removed to get the river back to it's normal course.
It should, without a doubt, be replaced. What with our headlong rush to shut down every power generating station we have we must use every single alternative source we have and not damming this river and using it for hydro power is criminally stupid. This stupidity will be shown when we’re required to permanently shut down our air conditioning because we lack power. All that time and money and brainpower spent in lengthening our lifespan just thrown away.
As a former resident of the house viewed to the far right of the frame at 0:10 of this video, I believe the newly drained land should first be offered for sale to the residents of this tiny peninsula. Lots of land will be reclaimed. It is only right it be owned by those who've watched over it for the past 100 years.
and the fact that it still stands is whats causing further bank erosion as the dam is now acting as a water flow diversion shoving all the water around forcing the river to make itself a new course.. the only way to stop further bank erosion is having a demolition company come in and either use explosives or heavy machinery to remove the dam.. all the worry about the sediment dispersion and its all down in a lake on the mississippi by now.
Those cost estimates are ridiculous. Just get them rock quarry guys to come down and they'll drill enough dynamite holes to make quick work of it. (Of course it's a different story now)
If this dam completely fails Mankato will be in trouble where it dumps in the MN river and then every thing along it's path. 15 million repair, 17 billion surplus no repairs started. Potential for billions of damages.
$15M to repair and hand the problem off to younger generation/s or $82M to remove. Since the revenue/profit from hydro power would be minimal as video said the right thing to do is remove it.
Well Mother Nature went to you HOLD MY well WATER and did it in a day for free Now for the $200m needing to go stabilise a bridge and most of the bank before the next flood next year. Maybe team move a bit faster that $82m was cheap
I say remove the dam,in the long run, no maintenance and could be be a haven for recreation and the residence wouldnt have to worry about future problems with debris buildup and silt.even if repaired,it wouldnt generate that much power that was needed years ago..three modern wind turbins can gernerate as much power has the dam could achieve..
Wrong. I don't care whether you're conservative or progressive, gay, straight whatever but the fact is the conservative arm of the Republican party has shot down any and all funding for infrastructure for the past 16 years. Obama, Trump, Biden all had projects blocked or voted against. The president can't just spend money out of one pot for another, the budget is set by Congress. Ukraine funding comes out of a pot for foreign aid, infrastructure funding comes out of a different pot. So if you want to make cheap points regardless of facts, carry on, if you actually care about infrastructure talk to your Rep and Senator and tell them to get their head out of their ass. As it is Biden managed to get a large bipartisan bill passed that would help shore up bridges and dams but it will take many years/decades to go through them all. For instance Rep. Pete Stauber from Minnesota voted against it claiming the bill would pave "a destructive and irreversible path towards socialism.", of course the next year while campaigning he talked up the bill claiming it would help Minnesota out. Shrug.
The county is at fault. They waited too long. Not senile Joe. So how much of Europe are we going to let Putin take. 30 years in the military my first year was living in a tent in Saudi. Because we chose to support Iraq. We gave are word that if Ukraine gave up nukes we would protect them. Sending them weapons instead of our military is way better!
"Removing the dam will take 10 years" ... Mother Nature - hold my beer
Sad to think that two years ago, they were looking at repairing or replacing it and now it is in danger of collapse… Where does the responsibility live for all the damage that this break will cause?
Epitome of too little to late.
eh, it needed to go anyways. this will just speed up the process, hopefully insurance companies cooperate
Responsibility? For what being gullible enough to buy property that has the potential to flood if a dam fails?that's on the homeowner not being very wise about purchasing real estate,most people know better than to buy land in a potential flood plain,if you don't then that is pretty funny,responible😂😂
Saved 8 years and 82 million dollars!
It’s fascinating that the Blue Earth County board was looking at this so recently. Ultimately, Old Man River seems to have made the decision for them.
river is a female entity sky is masculine
@@marumiyuhimeNot here in the USA. In English, most nouns don’t have gender, particularly for objects which are not alive. However, in rare instances, things are personified, and in this case, Old Man River is a sort of folksy personification of a river, (usually the Mississippi, but not in this case).
@@michaelimbesi2314 I am a native speaker of new england english stop being pertinent i have lived in central mass my whole life get a grip. who are you to tell me anything. pls stop
@@michaelimbesi2314 rivers have always been female in european culture no one said anything about words. moon fem sun masculine river fem sky mas air mas earth fire mas water fem its philosophy not language hun. RIvers are a female entity. not all of us are christian sir or even identify with judeocristian culture i follow my native european culture and religion TY hail mother frigg
@@michaelimbesi2314 river/water is a mother earth is a mother sky is a father fire is a father cheers. this is native european culture and philosophy. TYVM
Mother Nature said I got this. Just saved you 82 million
So Option #3 then: Natural Expedited Removal
This aged well.
I would love to know how much that study cost.
It's removing itself for less than 82 million.
Whoops, looks like they didn’t act quick enough 😮
typical minniesoda, a day late and 10 million dollars. short .Let's have another estimate, lets' have another study..
From what I see, the dam didn't fail, the design did. Even if the dam had been renovated, the problem was the obstruction of the dead trees. Unless this issue would have been addressed, the washout was going to occur eventually. Now the dam MUST be removed to get the river back to it's normal course.
Why wasn't it designed with an emergency spillway?
What is its normal course?
It should, without a doubt, be replaced. What with our headlong rush to shut down every power generating station we have we must use every single alternative source we have and not damming this river and using it for hydro power is criminally stupid. This stupidity will be shown when we’re required to permanently shut down our air conditioning because we lack power. All that time and money and brainpower spent in lengthening our lifespan just thrown away.
either option didnt allow enough time between start and completion to stop the failure so....
Right. But that isn't stopping the armchair experts from trying to assign blame.
As a former resident of the house viewed to the far right of the frame at 0:10 of this video, I believe the newly drained land should first be offered for sale to the residents of this tiny peninsula. Lots of land will be reclaimed. It is only right it be owned by those who've watched over it for the past 100 years.
more likely than not the submerged land is already owned deeds prior to 1910 have to be checked
Actually the Dam is still there unaltered. It's the land around it that's gone.
and the fact that it still stands is whats causing further bank erosion as the dam is now acting as a water flow diversion shoving all the water around forcing the river to make itself a new course.. the only way to stop further bank erosion is having a demolition company come in and either use explosives or heavy machinery to remove the dam.. all the worry about the sediment dispersion and its all down in a lake on the mississippi by now.
Those cost estimates are ridiculous. Just get them rock quarry guys to come down and they'll drill enough dynamite holes to make quick work of it. (Of course it's a different story now)
If this dam completely fails Mankato will be in trouble where it dumps in the MN river and then every thing along it's path. 15 million repair, 17 billion surplus no repairs started. Potential for billions of damages.
Wrong. Try educating yourself instead of talking out of your rear end.
if you look at a map you will see there is no substantial reservoir behind the frm dam
Big difference between living on a lake behind a dam and living along a stream
Well, it took too to make a sound decision, so the mother nature had made a decision for the local community leaders.
$15M to repair and hand the problem off to younger generation/s or $82M to remove. Since the revenue/profit from hydro power would be minimal as video said the right thing to do is remove it.
I'm gonna vote for removal, I have a feeling the cliff will erode if it's not removed. Yes this was sarcasm
Well Mother Nature went to you
HOLD MY well WATER and did it in a day for free
Now for the $200m needing to go stabilise a bridge and most of the bank before the next flood next year.
Maybe team move a bit faster that $82m was cheap
😯😯😯 oooof…..
I say remove the dam,in the long run, no maintenance and could be be a haven for recreation and the residence wouldnt have to worry about future problems with debris buildup and silt.even if repaired,it wouldnt generate that much power that was needed years ago..three modern wind turbins can gernerate as much power has the dam could achieve..
Hydro is green energy. What needs to be repaired for $15M to resume 5MW of power generation? ROI???
Too late now.
the correct damn answer is remove LOL river did it for you
It's more important than ever that we send money to Ukraine
~ Joe Biden
Wrong. I don't care whether you're conservative or progressive, gay, straight whatever but the fact is the conservative arm of the Republican party has shot down any and all funding for infrastructure for the past 16 years. Obama, Trump, Biden all had projects blocked or voted against. The president can't just spend money out of one pot for another, the budget is set by Congress. Ukraine funding comes out of a pot for foreign aid, infrastructure funding comes out of a different pot.
So if you want to make cheap points regardless of facts, carry on, if you actually care about infrastructure talk to your Rep and Senator and tell them to get their head out of their ass. As it is Biden managed to get a large bipartisan bill passed that would help shore up bridges and dams but it will take many years/decades to go through them all.
For instance Rep. Pete Stauber from Minnesota voted against it claiming the bill would pave "a destructive and irreversible path towards socialism.", of course the next year while campaigning he talked up the bill claiming it would help Minnesota out. Shrug.
The county is at fault. They waited too long. Not senile Joe. So how much of Europe are we going to let Putin take. 30 years in the military my first year was living in a tent in Saudi. Because we chose to support Iraq. We gave are word that if Ukraine gave up nukes we would protect them. Sending them weapons instead of our military is way better!
Wait a minute. Is Sleepy Joe senile or the Mastermind of the Biden Crime Family? I'm confused.
@@djc9727 we don't have a treaty with Ukraine. So who gives a shite.
@@SuperStoner86 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances was signed by us and Ukraine gave up its nukes. I guess our word and promise means shit.