A dam no more
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- A Dam No More tells the 21st century story of one of America's first large-scale dam removals. A remarkable cast of real-life characters-including a fisherman, scientists, heavy equipment operators and weather forecasters-all have something at stake in the complicated deconstruction of Marmot Dam on Oregon's Sandy River. This is not only an epic adventure about harnessing the power of water to take out a dam; it's also a look at the relationship between humans, a river and its salmon.
The Sandy river is my front yard.
I've never been so happy as the day I was notified about the dams removal. Watching such a rapid recovery after the removal was nothing short of amazing.
Today it's as it was centuries ago, and some days it almost seems to be smiling.
Don’t know how I found myself in the depths of the damn deconstruction UA-cam community, but the hippie in me has come quite astonished .
yo bro me too
Me too I started watching 3 videos ago cuz I saw jerry on the eel
Not a hippie but definitely enjoying these types of documentaries
Great job. Now those 16,000 homes can use fossil fuels.
Ha ha! Same here! I saw one video about 4 videos ago and now I’m hooked. I didn’t know this was a thing. Nor did I ever think about the negative impacts that dams have on our fish populations.
I find it funny that as a child we used to play in a rain gully next to a covered play area and in the rain build dams and make them fail like the scale model they built. When they cut the notch it looked exactly like our play.
60 years ago my cousins, brother, and I would use a firecracker to blast a hole in our "dam". Strangely, none of us went into civil engineering, though my brother did become a geologist.
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Thank you for having the wisdom and courage and doing the right thing for all the living creatures of this earth... This very morning I will be attending a meeting in an effort to remove the Gold River Dam in Placer County, California. Hopefully, Nevada Irrigation District will come to their sensed and remove the Gold Hill Dam that was built by the pioneers over a 150 years ago...
I miss these kind of documentaries.
Me too. There back.
This is marketing, not a documentary. Look at what a great company we are!!! Had there not been an endangered species in the river they would have never taken any action.
@@ShainAndrews and why should they if there wasn't an andangered species 🤔, everyone is a critic, maybe go without electricity for a couple of weeks
@@bleachinuri Because doing the right thing when nobody is looking is the proper measure of character. Me no electricity... not an issue. I spend weeks in the wilderness on horseback. Your criticism is noted.
@@ShainAndrews good for you, I don't trust people that are to kind or to goody 2 shoes, that's not human nature and if your too good your hiding something 😉 😜.
22:25 "Its like the river doesn't even... remember there was a dam here!"
Sneaking a little animism in there. I love it.
This river just don't give a dam.
Fantastic well done....great to see this kind of work being done at last.
Now the river should be diverted into a nuclear power plant cooling system to replace the power lost from the dam removal
Moron.
Cry elsewhere. Stop breeding Thanks 😉😎
Excellent documentary and excellent work in dam removal.
In any given group of people gathered together specifically to observe something, there will be at least one who feels the need to shout, "LOOK AT THAT!!"
If I lived around there, I'd be doing some gold panning downstream from where that dam used to sit.
That causes problems. NO, we don't want you to. I LIVE HERE.
it's a free country, you should try it.
@@0649Hayes Go Phuck yourself Socialist Antifa lover!
@@joelcrunk651 well that escalated quickly
panning is relatively harmless to the environment, but it should be regulated. If you are successful, thousands will come searching for their fortune. The cost to the environment could be great if not peoperly regulated
Wow, very heartening to see this video. I hope this is happening all over the world. A return to wild and scenic rivers. I live next to the Shasta Dam which is filled by the snows of an active volcano, Mt. Shasta in California, and flows into the Sacramento River on its way to the San Francisco delta area where it empties into the Pacific Ocean. I wonder what the people in Sacramento are going to do for power when they take that dam down. They already took down our local dam where I live in Red Bluff, downriver from Shasta about 30 miles. Slowly but surely the salmon are coming back and following right behind is a whole new flock of eagles and hawks, beautiful birds.
Liberals don't understand that ALL forms of energy have high prices on the environment, inc solar and wind, and the latter two forms are more feel-good toys at this point, capable of only a tiny fraction of our energy needs.
I wish they had a time-lapse of the whole thing without it cutting to a bunch of different shots.
Excellent! Bravo! Thanks for this professional video and great thanks for NOT having background music.
I'm editing this post because I conflated, unfairly, Portland General Electric (PGE) with Pacific Gas & Electric. Thanks to bearinmind (below) for point this out. I stand corrected.
That was Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E) not Portland General Electric (PGE). No relation to Erin Brockavich.
The small amount of electricity from that dam is easily replaced by wind power from the Columbia River Gorge area and from areas east of the Cascade Range where the wind blows strongly fairly consistently.
@@bearinmind50 I've edited my post to remove the incorrect info. Thank you for pointing that out and being civil while doing so. I stand corrected.
Not many people on the internet wanna admit they are wrong, especially so humbly. Keep the healthy spirit alive friend.
@@azure6729 Thank you.
That was really cool!
Thanks for the dam tour!
Do you have any dam questions?
I am your dam guide
now time to build some wild and scenic windmills
Those hints of Sulfur he talked about was H2S, Hydrogen Sulphide. That's not a gas you want to trifle with, especially in a lower confined space.
DEFINITELY...
Got H2S POISONING IN 2010... WORKING FOR THE PARK CITY SEWER DISTRICT !
LICKHER&STICKHER INTHEPINK I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE YELLING, BUT YOU'RE LUCKY YOU MADE IT OUT ALIVE.
It’s likely he’s actually smelling methane (swamp gas)
skunkhome agree on it being “swamp gas”, but methane is odorless in nature. There probably was some sort of sulfur released seeing as Mt Hood lay upstream
Awesome video of a fantastic engineering feat!
Gotta love the high pitched tone on the narrators mic that none of the production staff noticed because none of them could hear it
Good job guys.
Thank you, Portland General Electric. Not for the video. But for the decision you made.
Great doco guys - 💹➡ 2018 wonder how it all flows ? & Crikey them fish 🐟🐡 40lbs -+ 18Kilos au OZ - dams served a purpose electricity BUT once old its good to see the river system restored well done 🚣♂️ 🤽♂️ 👨👩👦👦
did you have a stroke whilst typing this?
@@breakcoregivesmewo0od611 yeah
What a great story of technical prowess in the service of mother nature
It is a bit confusing to me, that hydro power, one of the cleanest forms of energy, should be taken away by environmentalism.
I wonder what the evviros who brought the lawsuits that closed this and other hydro electric dams think replaced the power that was lost?
I suspect it wasn't wind or solar.
To save the salmon, a keystone species, you have to balance species survival against hydro power. They both cant win.
Hydro power does not produce much CO2, but a dam pretty much shuts down an entire ecosystem.
It benefits humans and that's the problem environmentalists have. Environmentalism is dreadfully anti-human, anti-prosperity, and anti-industry.
Mercury poisioning, its fatal and it dont get better😮
Here’s a story from a long, long time ago: The year was 1971, it was a cold February morning. I can’t quite recall if I was brought to tears, when I read the newspaper claiming a women had lost her husband. Something about this event stirred some feelings deep within. I decided to get in my Chevrolet and drive down the the levee, but to my dismay the ground was unusually dry.
paradoxed Hahaha... Chevy to the Levee but the levee was dry... that old chestnut.
Lol
Brad Martin now i get it 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️😂
Oh brudda
I would like to see what happening to the area down river.
I'm sure it created more habitats for wifelife
This erosion is what happened during the first stages of The Flood 4,370 years ago and during the last phases of drain down.
damn, that was a nice job!
That was amazing!
FREAKING EPIC.
Wow great job everyone!
Not only do the fish get their River back the free flowing can deposit the sediments down river where it can replenish the area around the mouth of the river reducing or slowing down coastal erosion.
Hello, missed this the first time. 70 million watts. Really? How about 70 billion microwatts? A watt is a really small unit of energy. What's wrong with 70 kilowatts?
Quite liked the video, apart from this hyperbole.
A wonderfully magical sight to see this river being able to breathe again in 90 to 100 years. Goodbye to concrete.
Our society is built on concrete, unless you want to go back to a hunter gatherer society we NEED concrete!
Great documentary! What an amazing show of nature healing itself.
Yeah, All by itself.
Now where do you get the power to light your paisley sky and make your Skittles?
Thank you.
Would have been interesting to run all that sediment through a gold sluice.
AGREED
Love how you can see the signal transmit through the wire to the explosvies
Primacord is not wire. It is an explosive in it's own rite. You can take primacord and tie into a ball of knots and you have now just built your own home made bomb. Now ignite it, and see what happens. There are different types with their own ignition mechanisms.
Good news ‘bout good people. The more I hear about Portland, the more I like it!
Yea the blowing up part is the best -
You tuned in lately. Portland is very “likable”. If there is a Portland left.
@@Stillnonofya you need to stop tuning in to CNN then. They are blowing this whole ANtifa thing out of proportion just like the rest of MSM. MSM is food for Sheep.
I love watching how dams are built. I also love seeing them destroyed. in both ways they are great. one way helps humanity get energy and water flow control....the other is just mother nature wild and free....I love both sides. Lotta people hate dams, a lot of people don't. I like um both.
If ya all want it wild and free tear down Portland next and return it to the wild natural place it once was.
It's all about trade offs my friend
Robert K everything but the OMSI
And now the 1600 homes that used that hydro- electric power must now rely on solar (only works on sunny days) or wind power (only on windy days). What a bonus for the power supply companies. Brace yourselves for astronomic power bills.
yes bend over. same thing in illinois
Well and not only that the panels are only 18% efficient the best of them are we found that out when we went to go install solar on our house. Our situation is perfectly posed for constant sunlight all day long from the time the sun comes up this time the sun goes down we would have sunlight pretty much three-quarters of the year and even on snowy days we would get patches of sunlight so we'd only have to have a small battery Bank we don't use a lot of electricity but we'd have it set up for a washer and dryer refrigerator
Luckily the heat, stove and hot water heater are gas. There is also a supplemental wood heavy duty warming Style with power blower fireplace insert which uses minimal wood 2 heat the ceramic plates. What we found out was that the use of solar panels would leave us dependent upon the electric company for good we would not make enough energy off the sun no matter if we were 24/7 on the sun because of their inefficiency. We thought about doing the little wind turbines but because we get really serious wind and the trees you can't guarantee that something won't bust them up flying pinecones limbs needles squirrels I went ahead and just said the stick with what we've got. Are fireplace produces practically no emissions as we have a scrubber on it we use very little heating as where our house is smaller we always keep rooms that we don't use closed we have excellent insulation, a special custom built window installations for winter that are removed and replaced with Summer wait I enjoyed making those but it's just crazy some of the stuff people expect us to do when really all it is is a fraud.
@@valiantsfelinesmccarty6678 First of all, solar panels can reach a maximum efficiency of about 34% at the moment. Secondly, what a stupid argument. If you talk about this efficiency, it is the efficiency of the solar cells to convert sunlight directly into electricity, so it cannot even be compared to hydroelectricity or wind-energy. Both are (indirectly) ultimately powered by the sun, hydroelectricity through condensation and rain and wind energy through the movement of air which is also caused by the sun. If you would calculate how much sun energy is needed to provide you with enough water to get the same amount of energy it would be more than you need for solar panels. And finally, even the best plants only have a "solar energy to biomass conversion rate" of 2%, multiply that by 0.1 for every trophic level to find out that your beefburger has an energy efficiency of about 0.02%.
@alison webster maybe they don't let you get the better quality in my country we have investigated it and you know what if you want to believe the lies go ahead. I don't need to move to the city. I barely use any electricity as it is so it's not a big problem for me. What I don't like is the lies. But go ahead brainwashed
@@donaldbrown7252 Currently in IL we are subsidizing nuclear plants.
They should build some natural gas powered ones to replace the power generated and shut them down.
honestly gave me chills
this was done several years ago now, I wonder what it looks like now, if the primary objective worked as planned, if the fish really benefit as much as expected, and the electric needs and bills after this .
well the powerhouse that the dam helped supply with water was only able to produce enough electricity (22 Megawatts) for 12,000 homes. Compare this to the dams along the Columbia river and the respective tributaries generate 29 Gigawatts as of 2012 (the dam featured was taken out in 2007-2008) which can power roughly 21 million homes assuming standard electrical usage. So the dam was likely a drop in the bucket compared to where most Portland General Electric customers got their power from.
@@alex-marquette You are correct. The direction is efficiency of money. There is no advantage to having many smaller generators when a few will do the job by simply modifying the distribution system. Other than that, the destruction of the smaller generators includes a lot of tax and cash flow benefits.
So have crews of beavers now shown up and starting modifying the river to their own liking?
The power of water is unbelievable
I didn't know this stuff was going on. Fantastic video and a great project.
You guys are to smart for your on good. Second guessing what water can do? Niagara? falls
Good stuff... Australia.
Wow. Cutting a notch with a forklift.
Great video and a great story - well done all!
A priceless opportunity for all profiteers to replace the dirt and pay society back, you will be first 👍🏼
I wonder what it looked like 150 years ago, before all the Bridges and Dams?
No cities, very little population and small farms and hunting. You want to go back to that time in our society, I really doubt it!
“Nature will find a way.” Ian Malcolm
in that case why remove the dam? gravity is one of the best power sources.
they removed it i guess because Nature didn't found a way so it had to be helped.
@@rasenche4562 - I guess you didn’t see the movie “Jurassic Park”
hmm wonder what the cost of that Minn university river dam model and study was..
Looks like another toy for university lunatics who have no real idea of what they are doing, don’t know what their work should produce and just wasting tax payers money for some fun! Typical of self assumed geniuses who can’t make it in the real world where results actually means something. Me thinks since it’s Oregon I wonder how much Dope was smoked to get rid of the dam and produce this video?
@alison webster I've got a BS in environmental science and I totally agree with the previous comment. Washing all sediment down stream probably did more damage to the rivers fish habitat than you can imagine. The buildup happened over time and the fish adapted to it and the ladder. The sediment just killed multiple generations of salmon.
The presentation was just plain old good work. The project speaks for itself. Thanks from Philadelphis
That's a wild story. Looks lots nicer without the dam.
Those salmon have learned to survive 100 years with a dam there. If that dam was so hurting nature there would be no salmon left. What a joke.
You are the joke. Its obvious you know nothing about the salmon or this area. Stfu!!!
Great work guys. A job well done and something to be justifiably proud of. Like the man said at the end we borrowed the river's energy for a hundred years now it's time to give it back. I'd love to be around in a hundred years to see how the Chinese replicate this work at Three Gorges Dam on the Yangtze River. Doubtless this project and others like it will be cited in the UA-cam videos of the future. Important work, diligently done.
Ok but where u gonna get power for an all electric world which we are moving more towards. I guess it's back to coal which is more deadly than a dam would be
patrick Zink There are renewable sources that don't harm the environment nearly this much.
@@patrickzink2191 The goal is to reduce the size of the middle and working classes. Therefore, the powers that be won't allow coal to take the place of these hydro plants. They're moving to green energy _(sustainable development),_ which will lead to higher costs of goods/services, fewer jobs etc.
@@Studio23Media Does your 'environment' include birds and bats?
Not You Yes. And despite what conspiracy theories you believe, windmills are not bird killing machines. Stop believing nonsense
Nat McDougal (I hope I spelled that right) made a mistake, now he's putting it right. That's a real man. Most would pass the buck. This century is when mankind repairs the damage we have wrought on this planet. These guys need a round of applause.
Sorry, did I miss the bit where Nat McDougal said they were doing this for free? Really? You don't stick that much kit and manpower into a job for nothing.
One way or another, we paid for it’s construction AND demolition. Never under-estimate the power of the American tax-dollar!
only one problem with the save the fish philosophy,dams like around here were built to protect people from killing floods that kept happening over and over,and theres no better way to generate electricity than dams, think about it nuclear??? really we don't know of any safe way to deal with the radioactive waste that will be deadly for thousands of years, wind no way in the near future thats gonna supply enough electricity to even break even on the cost of them ugly assed things, solar ??? battery systems are about as toxic as nuclear. electricity by water is still our best option,and guess what we have more species of fish in the dammned area than we had before.
Going to have to do a lot more than remove a few dams. When the earth's population has gone from 6 billion to 8 billion in 23 years (6 billion Oct 12 1999 to 8 billion Nov 15 2022) there's a HUGE problem! Most of that growth has occurred in Africa, where they can't grow enough food to feed their populations but keep having children like they were still dying from disease and starvation!
Six years later, how did it go?
what impacts on fisheries?
Indian nets are catching even more fish,!
absolutely brilliant to see all the planning and hard work come to fruition and the sediment all washed downstream....
BIEN , BIG DAMS NO MORE, BUT LITTLE DAMS , VS EROSIONES YES , TRATAMIENTO INTEGRAL DE CUENCAS NO OLVIDARLO ES LA BASE DE LA CAPTURA Y COSECHA DE AGUA . ANIMOOOOOOOOOOO
wow, the size of the salmons, unbelievable!
A hundred years ago we built these dams and they produced electricity, replacing a part of the fishing industry. Now with the demolishing of these dams we are replacing the electricity industry for the fishing industry. That of course means more fish will be able to feed more people. That part is good,but we also must find more ways to produce cheap electricity.
Nuclear......and coal.
The fish are protected so eat one & go to jail - look at one w/ mean eye & get a fine..
@@zabaleta66 fuck coal, it’s the single worst thing that’s ever happened to our atmosphere. we will be underwater in 100 years if we keep using coal.
Cheap electricity? Not going to happen. It will be the overlords living like kings and the rest of us will be their slaves.
Thanks for all of those that helped get this removed, i live very close to the Sandy river and visit it everyday with my dogs
Great….take out all of the dams then you can buy power from California’s Three New Nuclear power plants and those are just for the 35,000,000 cars and trucks to recharge their battery’s.
So in reality California will really need at least 12 nuclear power plants.
@@alanwomack5055 You should leave since you don't like the greatest country on the planet.
@@Sum_Tings_Wong I fought for America in Vietnam in the years 1970 and 1971. So take your Chinese ass and go to hell.
Libs be like “omg we need renewables”
Libs be like “omg no dams, we can’t have some salmon affected”
The cognitive dissonance is beyond comprehension
334 windmills = 1 small damn.....Sorry birds.
...... More like 3 windmills? This very small project is just that. 12MW is a rounding error in an electrical grid.
@@herpnderpn2484 12MW was the start of the Texas disaster that killed power to a third of the country, same for the NE one.
One thing for certain is the sediment went somewhere and had its affect there (good or bad) .
To remove the rubble and sediment they are going to have to FISH NET THE WATER FLOOR TO PROTECT THE SALMON. Install fish nets about a quarter mile to half a mile up the water channel so the salmon will not be able to swim down the channel until they are finished doing the work of removing the damn, rubble, and sediment. That's also gives the area of water they will be working in to restore it's pH factor suitable for the fish.
This was done in 2014. What is the status of the area now in 2019?
it was demolished back in 2007-2008. So the area is well over 10 years past when the dam was removed. With this removal they also got rid of Roslyn Lake that was created with this dam and the Little Sandy Dam as well. So it's on track to become what it used to look like before the dam.
The dam still isn't there.
@@stacymirba1433: Lol. True but the water is.
the hydro it produced has been replaced by a coal plant.
@@barrym4079 No it hasn't. We have only one coal fired plant and it's many miles further up the gorge. I'm sure the power that was needed to replace this dam was MORE than handled by solar and wind generators that are already exceeding the needs of Pacific Power and Light. They are winding down the c.f. plant!
What a pr plug for Pge !
Beautiful
Well done.
You know... with all the sediment washed away, a new dam could easily be built there
how was noone in this meeting like.. hey.. we should do a time lapse of the entire event.. and get the shot of the small stream turning into a river in one shot.. not these little clips
No no more damn only bless. Very nice..
Now that would just make it worse, add a channel for the fish and make it beautiful.😊
Excellent video and project. Would like to have seen the cofferdam burst and wash-away better. Too many artsy fartsy closeup shots that really didn't help. (Later, I noticed half a dozen other similar critiques).
I love this very cool
thank u for thinkin for our grandchildren
Any dam on the west coast that is antiquated and not essential, needs to be removed. Get those fisheries back.
As we are in tears about restoring this river back to normal Thailand is building over 100 Dams on all it's rivers destroying thousands of acres of habitat & displacing thousands of people; I dread to think how much fish & other wildlife in their rivers will be lost? Globally this project is 'one in a million', the rush is on to exploit the last of virgin territory on the planet.
Sounds like Thailand needs to stop breeding so much, slow down their population growth.
"In tears?" May I suggest a mental health consultation?
Good on you guys and girls who were part of the dam demolishment.
It's great how man can restore a massive structure back to origanal states's.
There was a dam here.
What ???who said that ???? No dam here now .
Very good work . I love how the prep work of years before, successfully works now .
AMAZING!
Very interesting. Have a nice day now.
Yale University courses
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I watched the removal on TV years ago. Being a transplant from Minnesota, it was still exciting for myself and all of Oregon!
Who says going a step back is a bad thing!
Go Vikings! (Minnesota.) lol
...GO HAWKS!!!!!
Our economy does. You can't remove all the infrastructure that supports modern society and go back to the old ways without reverting society back to those old ways.
This damn was really in my neighborhood. We really like our salmon up here. People love catching big ones and come up from the forty eight for the thrill. We have no shortage of electic producing damns
Dam. Damn is what you say when you stub your toe!
Just wait they will remove those dams as well then what oh and no more days at that lake
How can it be in your neighborhood? You state people come up from the "48". This is not Alaska. Uh Oregon ring a bell in you're hollow head??
Is this river undamed all the way to it's head waters now?
Yup! Isn't it GRAND?
Ty global water management is so required in loving application s🌍❤️
nice video
This is beautiful to see. God bless these men and woman everyday and God bless the good ol' US of A.
Nat: I built it to last...
Average Contractor: I'll be back!
the wooden flumes are blowing my mind.
And why is that? Obviously you know nothing about wood stave pipelines? Learn about them before shooting your mouth off.
Gold gold gold in the sediments!
Nope. This area has very little if any Au.
I'm still trying to find some gold in the colorado mountain creeks via 2in keene backpack dredge,get bout 4 5gal buckets of "black sand" and u MIGHT get 1-8 flakes of "glitter" tiny tiny bits of gold(I know I'm not missing anything)
Anyone else want to play with the scale model?
I was reading that like you were offering, like you had it set up in your shed or something
Hope you enjoy the dry Colorado River in the future. Not too smart.
You do realize that this river flows into the Columbia River, not the Colorado river. Further the state of Oregon doesn't even rely on the Colorado river for anything along with this river is the melt runoff of snow on Mt. Hood.
Also the Colorado river is drying up for reasons that affect the states along the river. Which the biggest factor is that we are relying on river in that area that was over estimated to it's capacity and the climate changing where there is less snowfall (and subsequently less runoff) occurring where the river originates.
So cool
RIP Scott Zorza
I miss Roslyn lake. I spent alot of time there as a kid