We have listened to responses and feedback on social media regarding the pricing, and we have created a basic range that removes many of the bells, and whistles showcased in this video item that cost the extra £s but are still made to a high standard.
Very nice and fixes the main problems of “other tables” It also has some neat features, the built in braces, robust connection mechanism, the carry handle. I see in the top you have also allowed for the rail system to be set back from the main run of holes to maximise the cutting width. All in all great looking product.
Thanks Andy. Hope you are well. We have worked the table to maximise the cutting distance if using our hinge system so when making cabinets over 620mm can be achieved.
Great looking workbench, a workbench on 4 locking castors might be a good option to have, especially for install days, it’s nice to be able to move the workbench around. Also the ability to attach a lower shelf to the side of the workbench, just to be able to place the track saw out of the way of the main work area,
That looks great, well done. If I had the space in my single garage workshop I’d buy one in a heartbeat! I’ve just cut up 6 x 18mm full sheets on a makeshift table using sawhorses and CLS lengths before I could accurately cut the parts on my Mft slab, it worked but very dodgy!! Well done Ralph, great bit of kit.
Having visited the factory recently and being a previous owner of an mft this table beats it by miles. it’s the most stable table I’ve come across and versatility is going to be amazing. I’m sure we could all think of an add on that allows you to do something. Maybe side brackets for the legs to allow a door to be put on to router hinges? Great product price well by the quality I have seen.
I guess it’s pretty easy to make one, just secure that sacrificial piece to the table using clamps, flip that assembly over, and drill the MFT holes from underneath the Ultra table. Using a jig, you may even only need to drill 2 or 3 holes using that technique, then flip the assembly back on its leg, and finish the work using the jig. Bonus, if the sacrificial piece was not properly squared, just trim it using the proper router bit, and voilà.
Hello Ralph Congratulations. Your MFT bench looks neat and functional. Since conceiving the idea for a small workbench with a vice which I could carry into the sun, 56 years ago, I have been thrilled to see so many iterations of this idea. I was anorexic at the time. All the best with your wonderful work. Peter
As an MFT/3 user, I really, really like the ability to stand them on end for storage without bending the t-track slots. since watching this video i have thought of so many uses in my shop. any plans to sell this without legs or without the top? as someone that would be paying shipping to the US, and then possibly removing the legs and making an assembly table out of a couple, that would be a great option. super excited to see the upcoming accessories too!
@Benchdogtools You need to have some sort of onboard storage for the corner jointing pins (and alignment jig), for contractors theres nothing better than having everything as a unit together and nothing worse than small loose bits that inevitably cant be found on the next job or get lost. ps I know you have bigger fish to fry but us Mafell track users need the narrow cut attachments for the parallel guides, we bought in good faith thinking they would become available. Cheers
@@juyhfrty if you use the extension tables you can keep them in the blocks. Still figuring out the pg narrow cut. It’s not the easiest track to work with and to make it cost effective
@@Benchdogtools thanks for replying, I’ll send you an email. New table should do well esp if you can hold the price point below £600 for a year giving people time to invest in one. I might take a couple for work put side on together rather than end to end. Cheers Peter
Great to see, love the corner block system, the side slot for introduction of clamps or T nuts. When using extrusion one side or end is normally not usable. I have built my own and understand the depth of the development. Also understand the material cost. I think this system is a winner, especially for UK with no import or shipping cost.
I was going to build my own non-folding table with wheels out of extrusion for a similar price. I thought yours would be folding and I wouldnt consider it, but turns out I'm actually very tempted with what you've done 👍 The legs on yours being made of extrusion means I could easily add a removable brace across the bottom if I felt the need or fix a board with dog holes vertically under the double extrusion. Lots of other possibilities with your design too
I have to say I've never regretted buying my MFT/3, but it has its shortcomings. You've decisively dealt with those in a package that looks pretty darn good. I checked out the price point on your website, and you're pretty bob-on, I think. Thinking about my needs, I'd like to see an option that would allow the table to be placed the a bench/storage cabinet. The corner castings on the MFT/3 allow me to have that sited on a cabinet in the workshop and lifted off for work on site with its legs folded down. Thanks for the solution and showcasing it today.
Looks nice, but also pricey. I do like the stabilization solution. This is one thing which bothers me on the quite new metabo table. To install the extension looks quite cumbersome though, but for a fixed installation alright. The metabo table seems to be nicer to be adjusted in height. Furthermore, I am missing a few things in the video: 1. How are the small extensions to the front installed? Yes, like the extension shown, I guess. But only the one side/corner, right? 2. What are the dimensions folded together? 3. What are the usable dimensions? Meaning: When the fence is installed and the track hinges what cutting capacity would I have? My problem I have with the folding tables: I don't want to store the attachments somewhere else all the time. Yes, having the fence and hinges in a systainer could work, but still you would have to reinstall them every time. I would like to have some sort of (rubberized) feet (for the T-Track maybe?) So that the hinges can stay in place and one would still be able to place the table on the side to fold it together.
can the outriggers be installed on the same end of the table to extend it a little longer and then form the right angle or can it only be installed on one the face at each end? is there videos of how they install?
Hi Jason, that looks like an awesome table! Nice job! I wish Festool had those features. Unfortunately I already own several MFT tables but they are topped with your guide rails. Do you think you might start making stabilizer bars and wheels for the Festool?
Hey Leo. Yeah that’s a shame I’m sure when you look to upgrade you may look at ours. I don’t think we would make kit for the MFT 3. But never say never.
A router table add-on for this would be fantastic. Also, I wonder if a new version of the quad hinge that attaches to the frame rather than the worktop too maximise space, is on your your roadmap? Love your products, have several and will be ordering an MFT soon.
Yes we have a prototype of this and will be releasing soon. We have also shown a photo of a router table in one of the outriggers that we are also working on.
Certainly an innovative design. Good that the edge of the top is flush with side extrusion. Presumably the legs are also aluminium extrusions? So as suggested below by another there could easily (?) be scope for mounting a door on edge for hinge and latch routing. How much does it weigh please? Nothing on website in that regard.
The idea is good and the choice if materials is superb but I wonder when you attach the extension how precise and repeatable you can be to guarantee the MFT holes alignment is respected
I will like to see this table in action. Show us how to use it properly with large plywood example. What size fencing system is optimal? Festool rails connections etc. Thank you.
Certainly is a great looking product. I can assure you the pricing looks on point. I built a Dashboard equivalent out of 5050 with all the outriggers etc. I can say that cost me over £1200 and doesn't look a pinch against this. Mine is also damn heavy, not quite as sturdy and takes a lot more time to get all the holes lining up. The BD connection system looks very good. Wish this had been out 5months ago, wouldn't have wasted a lot of time doing research & building on an interior product.
@Benchdogtools You need to have some sort of onboard storage for the corner jointing pins (and alignment jig), for contractors theres nothing better than having everything as a unit together and nothing worse than small loose bits that inevitably cant be found on the next job or get lost. ps I know you have bigger fish to fry but us Mafell track users need the narrow cut attachments for the parallel guides, we bought in good faith thinking they would become available. Cheers
Absolutely love these they look like a great alternative to the over priced and under engineered Festool units . My only question is work station heights. Do these tie into the work heights of the Festool sys 50 and Kapex underframes to provide a consistent work platform? Which would be perfect or are you planning to introduce accessories to mount the sys 50 and kapex flush with the benchdog mft workstation systems? Really is the key factor to whether Festool users will buy in heavily
Great product, are you going to offer a track saw bundle with the bench similar to Festools. I know you don’t do the track but you could have everything else. A one stop shop would be great for people.
This looks exactly what I am looking for. Any chance that the mobile accessory kit can also be used for other cases? For example Lboxx or Mboxx systems? Or that you can release a similair component with those measurements? Or is the attachment plate not fixed?
This looks great and continues where the Festool finishes. I like not being tied into a single manufacturers line. I see kitchen fitters and the like using. I have a fixed MFT setup in my workshop with quite a bit of BD extras. I would like something more portable. It’s about accuracy, safety and working comfortably. I am a bit confused at the basic price as to what it includes before I take the plunge. Thank you Mike
Great product! I don't need it but I want it 😀 Any plans to supply an adaption for an existing MFT3? Would be great to be able to use it as an extension. It is cool that you are able to connect your systainers to the table and roll them arround. It would be even better if the same was possible for the extensions to the table
I look at the website. But i cannot find the hight of the ground to the top of the table. This is important to me because i can use it together with my festool csc 50 as a extension for larger pieces.
First thank you for coming up with alternative table to the market and one which appears to have some interesting design features. Difficult to give you a decent opinion without testing one but Il ike: the mobility (wheeling) features, the Systainer carrying capacity, the connectivity, the apparent stability and the fact that it is available with a Valchromat top. What I would like: many of us work in tough grounds: setting it up like you demonstrated would wreck one of this tables in seconds as its aluminium extrusions would not be able to cope (rubber bumps on its sides would be a nice accessory to have), re the wheels: it is great to have them available but for my needs I would like even bigger (much bigger) and thicker ones: for rough terrain manoeuvrability and to easy climb over countless stairs.... and a better handle: yours is a good idea but I reckon it can be made better and ever as an accessory to fit to the rails.... My opinions have been issued against two systems I currently use: a UJK MULTIFUNCTION WORKBENCH that I mount onto a Toughbuilt saw horse (the Axminster ones for the UJK table are just so mediocre re of its price ) and an Festool Festool MFT on its own Festool cart which is a pleasure to use but that I find small (even extended) for many situations. What I think you have come up is a competitively price alternative to the best on the market: The Dashboard which is out, for most of us, of reach - a side by side comparison would be very interesting.
Yes, I like it very much. It has function, form, and (something I'd need at my age doing any gig I'd be doing in a craft fair or such) it has "FLASH". Any I might have had has sailed so I'd consider this an investment. Something to add to the arsenal simply to get a passerby to pause an think, "Say, what's this table he's working on about?" That would be in a demo booth I'd be showing on for example. I imagine it will get around to the USA in short order as it's very practical and serves a plethora of uses I can think of beyond what you showed and hinted at. Good looking product but I bet there is a pretty price to it as well. I know well enough not to be afraid of buying quality tools if you can't live without them. So I'll have start getting my rationales in order for my missus.
I know I am asking a lot here but it would be simple enough to offer. Besides having the wheels in the "cart config," I have found that with my Festool MFT, two "inline wheels" on one edge of the table top are also helpful. That way I am not limited to using it as a cart and it can skate on the two inline wheels which helps me get through narrow spaces but also less of that reach over. I imagine it would just attach via the t-nut groove on the track extrusion. The wheels I have used in the past were small. But this design looks way better in terms of stability than the Festool table which is rather terrible for hand planing etc.
Would be cool if you could get a roller that would go into the dog holes allowing you to use the mft without a mitre saw stand e.g stick your mitre on the mft table and stick in the roller either side
We are looking at options for Australia; single shipping is very steep (over £200), we think this is way too much, but we are working on it. the table weight is 34 kg.
I would imagine other accessories could be adapted; many accessories will also be designed to work with the system, according to what a few people have said regarding the router base. something we have on our radar already
definatly noted on the wheels, we did try this out side in a rough area and seem to hold up well. these are not plastic but machined aluminium making them quite durable.
That looks like a fantastic design. The problem is that I bought some bench dogs for a Bosch rail and they didn’t work, I couldn’t tighten them as the inside thread wasn’t deep enough. Had to solve it with a nylon washer but somehow it didn’t seem to be as precise. Told you by mail but never received an answer. Now I use UJK’s. Nice MFT though
i like it. looks very solid. i like that it stands up on its own and folds flat with nothing sticking out . if i had this in the van and slid stuff along side it they wouldnt get caught like my festool one does. i would like the adjustable feet to be tool less if posible . if its a faf to do i wouldnt bother. the joining system looks solid but has parts easily lost or misplaced. how are those small tables attached to the middle of the extrusion. they are screaming out to have a router table insert in them i would love to see a lower table availible for a table saw so the main table is all outfeed. set ups like that are missing this side of the atlantic unfortunitly. i would love to see you adapt this into a miter saw station set up for site. main mft set up on each side with narrow 2400mm extentions either side and table saw level with it on the end. make it a total work station for 2nd fixing a house.
Thanks the response, we have looked in to many options for the feet but came at a cost of the braces not workingand i felt the braces were slighty more important to work the way they have due to the ease of use. but I will keep working on that part until we start shipping. so it may change for the better. as for the outriggers yes lots of other options and accessories, we have so many ideas and we have already recieve many great idea extras as well. Wwe toyed with different connection accessories and making the way we did which pulls it all together nice and tight, we may make easy to use thumbscrews instead of hex key making it easy to use.
Really appreciate the careful thinking that has obviously gone into this. On the range options - is the 'Basic version' the same as the others except for the worktop surface? If so, then that pricing is definitely fair for getting folks started.
The Basic version is different in some ways; the top is a more cost-effective MDF, the F clamp slots are not machined into the extrusion, meaning these could not be used, and other parts are also changed like the clamping handle will be changed for leaver other than as aluminium cam lever.
Hi, I have been looking at your Ultra MFT workstation bundle, but do I have to order both the fence system and quad hinge system in order to get the discount? I ask because I already have the fence system but would be interested in purchasing the quad hinge system and workstation as a bundle?
This looks very impressive, certainly better designed than the official Festool offering. I’ve had a look to see if it’s possible to deliver to New Zealand, but doesn’t appear to be. Will this option become available? Also, would it be possible to order without the top (this would be really helpful in keeping international shipping costs down)? I’m assuming it’s a standard size MFT top?
Thanks for your interest and we are looking at options for international shipping like you mentioned. It is a slightly different to a mft 3 size but not much. So leave it we us and we will figure it out.
Comparable/cheaper than Festool but offering more scope for extension along with built in bracing as standard. Does it come as a kit or assembled. As a kit it would be more price competitive and speed up delivery!
Yes it come complete, nothing to put together or assemble. This protoype is made with a standad extrusion but we have had out own extrsion being made which fixes issues with a standard extrusion hence the pre order time frame.
I love the innovation, some well thought out ideas. Other have said it's too expensive, is it though? It looks like a solid design that should last decades, if you want high quality you have to pay for high quality materials. I will say that I foresee not many setting up the whole system, maybe just the table and one extension.
We didn't want to make a cheap table like some brands are doing to get their name on an MFT table. We opted for quality as there are people who want to buy one set-up and not worry about it again, giving them many years of use; this is the table. Each table is made here in the UK by hand, not in a factory in the Far East. We want people to be proud that they have purchased a product that will not fail them and will have so many uses and add-ons in the future whether it's from us or 3rd party 3D printed. It's not the cheapest, but it's also not the most expensive; you don't have to buy extra parts to fix it. It's solid out of the box.
Very nice system. Well-engineered, expandable & above all, stable. Wheel kit & systainer platform are ingenious. Competitively (similarly) priced to your main competitor, but more expandable, and again, more stable. This is by far a superior design. Looks as stable and expandable as the Dash Board system, at a fraction of the cost.
Is there any assembly/instruction manual? I found the leg.clamping system unable to completely hold the legs at either extreme. Using the sliding white supports the table is very stable but when the legs are folded down into the top I worry the legs might fall down out of the table top due to the inability to clamp the four leg clamps.
There is a leg clip fitted on the table. Once you close the legs this clips into the leg which then holds it in place. If you want to tighten the cam leaver you can also do this you just might need to turn them first.
Great conception and product by the looks of it. By the looks of it 3 tables could be bolted together. One in front of the other and one length ways down one side...would all the holes still be accurately in line ?
so cool. I might have to sell my Festool double MFTs. Can i get some information on the weights of the various tables? it seems lighter than the MFT from the way the fellow is lifting them in the video.
Wow...absolutely brilliant and horrifying. I have spent years looking for all the leg constructions and ideas on how to make an MFT from aluminum profiles. All the ideas I found on the internet are used here. The use of hinges for the table legs on the inside is unique and to me genius, although the use of the leg groove is limited. The best part is that it can be made from off-the-shelf components. Your solution to the legs is great. Overall the design of the table is horrible. Each solution has its pros and cons (dashboardp, ultra mft ...). Absolutely great, thank you for the inspiration - the price of the basic table is very reasonable. From me ultra MFT is no.1
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We have listened to responses and feedback on social media regarding the pricing, and we have created a basic range that removes many of the bells, and whistles showcased in this video item that cost the extra £s but are still made to a high standard.
Looks like a very well designed table. The pace you roll out new products is amazing!
Absolutely beautiful!!! Ordered this set up within 30 seconds of seeing this video! Amazing company & customer service is incredible!!
Thank you for your order.
Beautiful!!you should have a cero clearance cutting area,so we can replace it and never damage the table
Very nice and fixes the main problems of “other tables”
It also has some neat features, the built in braces, robust connection mechanism, the carry handle.
I see in the top you have also allowed for the rail system to be set back from the main run of holes to maximise the cutting width.
All in all great looking product.
Thanks Andy. Hope you are well. We have worked the table to maximise the cutting distance if using our hinge system so when making cabinets over 620mm can be achieved.
Great looking workbench, a workbench on 4 locking castors might be a good option to have, especially for install days, it’s nice to be able to move the workbench around. Also the ability to attach a lower shelf to the side of the workbench, just to be able to place the track saw out of the way of the main work area,
@@theghostrider501 I have just made a sample of some wheel / casters I will release a video at the end of the week.
Absolutely stunning work bench, that’s got to be up for a design award surely.
So when can I buy one in the US without the crazy shipping costs?
That looks great, well done. If I had the space in my single garage workshop I’d buy one in a heartbeat! I’ve just cut up 6 x 18mm full sheets on a makeshift table using sawhorses and CLS lengths before I could accurately cut the parts on my Mft slab, it worked but very dodgy!!
Well done Ralph, great bit of kit.
Another great product. I think Benchdogs is trying to make me go broke. I’m telling my wife I want a set for Christmas.
As always well thought out extremely well made …. Quality comes at a price and in my opinion a fair price well done Ralph 👍
Having visited the factory recently and being a previous owner of an mft this table beats it by miles. it’s the most stable table I’ve come across and versatility is going to be amazing. I’m sure we could all think of an add on that allows you to do something. Maybe side brackets for the legs to allow a door to be put on to router hinges? Great product price well by the quality I have seen.
What about adding a sacrificial cutting strip on the top of the table?
I guess it’s pretty easy to make one, just secure that sacrificial piece to the table using clamps, flip that assembly over, and drill the MFT holes from underneath the Ultra table. Using a jig, you may even only need to drill 2 or 3 holes using that technique, then flip the assembly back on its leg, and finish the work using the jig. Bonus, if the sacrificial piece was not properly squared, just trim it using the proper router bit, and voilà.
I like your innovations. Do the dog holes on the extensions maintain spacing and squareness to the main table? Steve
When purchasing an extension a jig is supplied so if you need to move the table you can be sure it’s perfectly lined up.
Hello Ralph
Congratulations. Your MFT bench looks neat and functional. Since conceiving the idea for a small workbench with a vice which I could carry into the sun, 56 years ago, I have been thrilled to see so many iterations of this idea. I was anorexic at the time. All the best with your wonderful work.
Peter
Thanks Peter
As an MFT/3 user, I really, really like the ability to stand them on end for storage without bending the t-track slots. since watching this video i have thought of so many uses in my shop. any plans to sell this without legs or without the top? as someone that would be paying shipping to the US, and then possibly removing the legs and making an assembly table out of a couple, that would be a great option. super excited to see the upcoming accessories too!
Had a thought this was coming! Amazing innovation, there's no stopping them!
Glad you like it!
@Benchdogtools You need to have some sort of onboard storage for the corner jointing pins (and alignment jig), for contractors theres nothing better than having everything as a unit together and nothing worse than small loose bits that inevitably cant be found on the next job or get lost. ps I know you have bigger fish to fry but us Mafell track users need the narrow cut attachments for the parallel guides, we bought in good faith thinking they would become available. Cheers
@@juyhfrty if you use the extension tables you can keep them in the blocks. Still figuring out the pg narrow cut. It’s not the easiest track to work with and to make it cost effective
@@Benchdogtools thanks for replying, I’ll send you an email. New table should do well esp if you can hold the price point below £600 for a year giving people time to invest in one. I might take a couple for work put side on together rather than end to end. Cheers Peter
Great to see, love the corner block system, the side slot for introduction of clamps or T nuts. When using extrusion one side or end is normally not usable. I have built my own and understand the depth of the development. Also understand the material cost. I think this system is a winner, especially for UK with no import or shipping cost.
I was going to build my own non-folding table with wheels out of extrusion for a similar price. I thought yours would be folding and I wouldnt consider it, but turns out I'm actually very tempted with what you've done 👍 The legs on yours being made of extrusion means I could easily add a removable brace across the bottom if I felt the need or fix a board with dog holes vertically under the double extrusion. Lots of other possibilities with your design too
are there videos of this table being used, not just setup but how all the accessories function with the track system
Looks like a really well thought out system.
That’s a good looking table Dude. If I didn’t have an mft3 I’d be very interested.
I have to say I've never regretted buying my MFT/3, but it has its shortcomings. You've decisively dealt with those in a package that looks pretty darn good. I checked out the price point on your website, and you're pretty bob-on, I think. Thinking about my needs, I'd like to see an option that would allow the table to be placed the a bench/storage cabinet. The corner castings on the MFT/3 allow me to have that sited on a cabinet in the workshop and lifted off for work on site with its legs folded down. Thanks for the solution and showcasing it today.
Looks nice, but also pricey. I do like the stabilization solution. This is one thing which bothers me on the quite new metabo table.
To install the extension looks quite cumbersome though, but for a fixed installation alright. The metabo table seems to be nicer to be adjusted in height. Furthermore, I am missing a few things in the video:
1. How are the small extensions to the front installed? Yes, like the extension shown, I guess. But only the one side/corner, right?
2. What are the dimensions folded together?
3. What are the usable dimensions? Meaning: When the fence is installed and the track hinges what cutting capacity would I have?
My problem I have with the folding tables: I don't want to store the attachments somewhere else all the time. Yes, having the fence and hinges in a systainer could work, but still you would have to reinstall them every time. I would like to have some sort of (rubberized) feet (for the T-Track maybe?) So that the hinges can stay in place and one would still be able to place the table on the side to fold it together.
can the outriggers be installed on the same end of the table to extend it a little longer and then form the right angle or can it only be installed on one the face at each end? is there videos of how they install?
The leg braces are genius
Fantastic Engineering!
Mr festool crazy here. I would buy that over the mft all day. Great though out work table benchdogs.
Hi Jason, that looks like an awesome table! Nice job! I wish Festool had those features. Unfortunately I already own several MFT tables but they are topped with your guide rails. Do you think you might start making stabilizer bars and wheels for the Festool?
Hey Leo. Yeah that’s a shame I’m sure when you look to upgrade you may look at ours. I don’t think we would make kit for the MFT 3. But never say never.
Lovely system as ever I need this 👌
Nice !
A router table add-on for this would be fantastic. Also, I wonder if a new version of the quad hinge that attaches to the frame rather than the worktop too maximise space, is on your your roadmap? Love your products, have several and will be ordering an MFT soon.
Yes we have a prototype of this and will be releasing soon. We have also shown a photo of a router table in one of the outriggers that we are also working on.
Certainly an innovative design. Good that the edge of the top is flush with side extrusion. Presumably the legs are also aluminium extrusions? So as suggested below by another there could easily (?) be scope for mounting a door on edge for hinge and latch routing. How much does it weigh please? Nothing on website in that regard.
The idea is good and the choice if materials is superb but I wonder when you attach the extension how precise and repeatable you can be to guarantee the MFT holes alignment is respected
when purchasing an extension, it is supplied with an alignment jig.
I will like to see this table in action. Show us how to use it properly with large plywood example. What size fencing system is optimal? Festool rails connections etc. Thank you.
Sure, more videos will be coming soon
Great concept Ralph, the modular design and capability of the table is first rate, I just wish you had launched it 6 months ago 😊
Thanks. Glad you like. Yeah getting that a lot about bringing it out sooner. 😂
Certainly is a great looking product. I can assure you the pricing looks on point. I built a Dashboard equivalent out of 5050 with all the outriggers etc. I can say that cost me over £1200 and doesn't look a pinch against this. Mine is also damn heavy, not quite as sturdy and takes a lot more time to get all the holes lining up. The BD connection system looks very good. Wish this had been out 5months ago, wouldn't have wasted a lot of time doing research & building on an interior product.
Had a look on the website £350 for the basic table with the top Which is cheaper than the festool mft without the top I'll be getting the basic one
@Benchdogtools You need to have some sort of onboard storage for the corner jointing pins (and alignment jig), for contractors theres nothing better than having everything as a unit together and nothing worse than small loose bits that inevitably cant be found on the next job or get lost. ps I know you have bigger fish to fry but us Mafell track users need the narrow cut attachments for the parallel guides, we bought in good faith thinking they would become available. Cheers
Is it possible to hang on the wall? Just thinking in my guarge where there is a lack of space would be good to get out of the way when not in use
Absolutely love these they look like a great alternative to the over priced and under engineered Festool units . My only question is work station heights. Do these tie into the work heights of the Festool sys 50 and Kapex underframes to provide a consistent work platform? Which would be perfect or are you planning to introduce accessories to mount the sys 50 and kapex flush with the benchdog mft workstation systems? Really is the key factor to whether Festool users will buy in heavily
Looks like a fantastic set, well made 👍
That’s an amazing design, Ralph, brilliant design as always from you and your company !!
Great product, are you going to offer a track saw bundle with the bench similar to Festools. I know you don’t do the track but you could have everything else. A one stop shop would be great for people.
Yes, we have the bundles online with the fence and Hinge system.
That looks like a cracking bit of kit
Very nice Ralph.. 🙌
This looks exactly what I am looking for. Any chance that the mobile accessory kit can also be used for other cases? For example Lboxx or Mboxx systems? Or that you can release a similair component with those measurements? Or is the attachment plate not fixed?
The cases kit is fully adjustable to suit any toolbox brand.
This looks great and continues where the Festool finishes. I like not being tied into a single manufacturers line. I see kitchen fitters and the like using. I have a fixed MFT setup in my workshop with quite a bit of BD extras. I would like something more portable. It’s about accuracy, safety and working comfortably. I am a bit confused at the basic price as to what it includes before I take the plunge. Thank you Mike
Great product! I don't need it but I want it 😀
Any plans to supply an adaption for an existing MFT3? Would be great to be able to use it as an extension.
It is cool that you are able to connect your systainers to the table and roll them arround. It would be even better if the same was possible for the extensions to the table
As we planned the system to have a bigger top it wouldn’t exactly line up. But I’m sure I can figure a way to do this. Let me look into it.
Be very interested in what Mr Millard makes of this. Can I ask what the odd row of holes are for near edge or bench?
Benchdogs Rail Hinge and fence.
Peter is visiting on Monday to have a look and do a factory tour. Hopefully soon you will have his review on the system.
Will Benchdogs now make a rail guide that attaches to your extrusion rails?
Yes. Will be released soon.
@@Benchdogtools also looking forward to this... would be nice to attach the fence to the extrusions too
I look at the website. But i cannot find the hight of the ground to the top of the table. This is important to me because i can use it together with my festool csc 50 as a extension for larger pieces.
its the same height I will have this updated
@@RalphBD thanks for the fast answer
First thank you for coming up with alternative table to the market and one which appears to have some interesting design features. Difficult to give you a decent opinion without testing one but Il ike: the mobility (wheeling) features, the Systainer carrying capacity, the connectivity, the apparent stability and the fact that it is available with a Valchromat top. What I would like: many of us work in tough grounds: setting it up like you demonstrated would wreck one of this tables in seconds as its aluminium extrusions would not be able to cope (rubber bumps on its sides would be a nice accessory to have), re the wheels: it is great to have them available but for my needs I would like even bigger (much bigger) and thicker ones: for rough terrain manoeuvrability and to easy climb over countless stairs.... and a better handle: yours is a good idea but I reckon it can be made better and ever as an accessory to fit to the rails.... My opinions have been issued against two systems I currently use: a UJK MULTIFUNCTION WORKBENCH that I mount onto a Toughbuilt saw horse (the Axminster ones for the UJK table are just so mediocre re of its price ) and an Festool Festool MFT on its own Festool cart which is a pleasure to use but that I find small (even extended) for many situations. What I think you have come up is a competitively price alternative to the best on the market: The Dashboard which is out, for most of us, of reach - a side by side comparison would be very interesting.
Love this. This is something I’ve been looking for. I’m interested when you have ability to ship to US
Great video description. Let's see some proof and cut some plywood.
Yes, I like it very much. It has function, form, and (something I'd need at my age doing any gig I'd be doing in a craft fair or such) it has "FLASH". Any I might have had has sailed so I'd consider this an investment. Something to add to the arsenal simply to get a passerby to pause an think, "Say, what's this table he's working on about?" That would be in a demo booth I'd be showing on for example. I imagine it will get around to the USA in short order as it's very practical and serves a plethora of uses I can think of beyond what you showed and hinted at. Good looking product but I bet there is a pretty price to it as well. I know well enough not to be afraid of buying quality tools if you can't live without them. So I'll have start getting my rationales in order for my missus.
I know I am asking a lot here but it would be simple enough to offer. Besides having the wheels in the "cart config," I have found that with my Festool MFT, two "inline wheels" on one edge of the table top are also helpful. That way I am not limited to using it as a cart and it can skate on the two inline wheels which helps me get through narrow spaces but also less of that reach over. I imagine it would just attach via the t-nut groove on the track extrusion. The wheels I have used in the past were small. But this design looks way better in terms of stability than the Festool table which is rather terrible for hand planing etc.
are you going to have the table top extrusions without the legs? I'd like to use it in a static worktable build.
Not thought of this but as they fold up into the system this can be used in that way.
Very nice table
I will be getting this soon
Will you consider making a mitersaw stand or extension wings for the dewalt stand
Would be cool if you could get a roller that would go into the dog holes allowing you to use the mft without a mitre saw stand e.g stick your mitre on the mft table and stick in the roller either side
Do you have the option to add caster wheels instead of the feet?
we have been thinking for this and will be researching this option
Awesome company!
Woow amazing guys but how much is that level of quality going to cost???? Well done 👏
Depends we have a few options. Check out our website
Amazing! I want one. Will you ship to Australia? What’s the weight of the table?
We are looking at options for Australia; single shipping is very steep (over £200), we think this is way too much, but we are working on it. the table weight is 34 kg.
This is what the MFT/3 should be and has designed out many of its shortcomings. Is there any integration to use the accessories with a Festool MFT/3
I would imagine other accessories could be adapted; many accessories will also be designed to work with the system, according to what a few people have said regarding the router base. something we have on our radar already
Question: Do you intend to ship this great new product (MFT Table) also to Switzerland? Right now, non of the MFT tops can be ordered likely?
we can look into the shipping cost for your Switzerland, i will update the website asap
Im impressed, I personally think the wheels could be a bit more robust so there suitable for wheeling around a worksite, especially muddy sites
definatly noted on the wheels, we did try this out side in a rough area and seem to hold up well. these are not plastic but machined aluminium making them quite durable.
Hi
Does the connecting fittings come with the table in all versions, or are they extra.
The connections come with the extenders but will need to be purchased separately if you want to connect two main tables.
That looks like a fantastic design. The problem is that I bought some bench dogs for a Bosch rail and they didn’t work, I couldn’t tighten them as the inside thread wasn’t deep enough. Had to solve it with a nylon washer but somehow it didn’t seem to be as precise. Told you by mail but never received an answer. Now I use UJK’s. Nice MFT though
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i like it. looks very solid.
i like that it stands up on its own and folds flat with nothing sticking out . if i had this in the van and slid stuff along side it they wouldnt get caught like my festool one does.
i would like the adjustable feet to be tool less if posible . if its a faf to do i wouldnt bother.
the joining system looks solid but has parts easily lost or misplaced.
how are those small tables attached to the middle of the extrusion. they are screaming out to have a router table insert in them
i would love to see a lower table availible for a table saw so the main table is all outfeed. set ups like that are missing this side of the atlantic unfortunitly.
i would love to see you adapt this into a miter saw station set up for site. main mft set up on each side with narrow 2400mm extentions either side and table saw level with it on the end. make it a total work station for 2nd fixing a house.
Thanks the response, we have looked in to many options for the feet but came at a cost of the braces not workingand i felt the braces were slighty more important to work the way they have due to the ease of use. but I will keep working on that part until we start shipping. so it may change for the better.
as for the outriggers yes lots of other options and accessories, we have so many ideas and we have already recieve many great idea extras as well. Wwe toyed with different connection accessories and making the way we did which pulls it all together nice and tight, we may make easy to use thumbscrews instead of hex key making it easy to use.
Let's see the table in action cutting full sheets, along with an example workflow for making rip cuts and cross cuts.
Sure, more videos will be coming soon
Can one of your fences be attached on the side and if so will it be accurately aligned with the dog holes?
apologies Could you clarify what you mean ?
@Benchdogtools I think he means using the fence to align the dog hole when adding the extensions.
@@monkeysausageclubwhen buying the extension it comes with a jig to fine tune it.
@@Benchdogtools I meant , where you have the tracks in the metal surround, would it be possible to mount a fence to that track?
Is that a standard size extrusion? What size are the slots for the table top extrusions?
Is this compatible with the festool miter saw extension wings?
This is adjustable to the height of a festool table
Really appreciate the careful thinking that has obviously gone into this. On the range options - is the 'Basic version' the same as the others except for the worktop surface? If so, then that pricing is definitely fair for getting folks started.
The Basic version is different in some ways; the top is a more cost-effective MDF, the F clamp slots are not machined into the extrusion, meaning these could not be used, and other parts are also changed like the clamping handle will be changed for leaver other than as aluminium cam lever.
What fence package is the best for this table?
Any would be suitable
Is there any plan to create a "UJK Parf Guide" tool alternative for creating MFT tops? (maybe even with hinge/fence hole drilling functionality)
unfortunately not, we feel tops should be CNC made.
Hi, I have been looking at your Ultra MFT workstation bundle, but do I have to order both the fence system and quad hinge system in order to get the discount? I ask because I already have the fence system but would be interested in purchasing the quad hinge system and workstation as a bundle?
No you can choose which option you want
How easy is it to remove the worktop if needed?
Was thinking i could also use the frame as a router table bench if i interchange the top?
We are designing a router base as well, or other route base brands can be used .
So would that mean the base frame would be used by your interchangeable worktop then? Or a separate frame as well?
@@steveblewer1202, i would any of the tops could be adapted to be a router table, I would need to check the outriggers but I'm sure they could
Interesting - not only have you come up with an MFT/3 beater, it looks like the STM 1800 also has some stiff (get it?) competition.
This looks very impressive, certainly better designed than the official Festool offering.
I’ve had a look to see if it’s possible to deliver to New Zealand, but doesn’t appear to be. Will this option become available?
Also, would it be possible to order without the top (this would be really helpful in keeping international shipping costs down)? I’m assuming it’s a standard size MFT top?
Thanks for your interest and we are looking at options for international shipping like you mentioned. It is a slightly different to a mft 3 size but not much. So leave it we us and we will figure it out.
$2600 for the whole setup is just wild to me.
Is vat included if it's being shipped to an apo box with US address ( e.g. RAF Lakenheath)?
If this is outside the uk. Vat is dedicated
Do you guys make anything for mitre saw station.
we have a mitre station fence system.
Comparable/cheaper than Festool but offering more scope for extension along with built in bracing as standard.
Does it come as a kit or assembled. As a kit it would be more price competitive and speed up delivery!
Yes it come complete, nothing to put together or assemble. This protoype is made with a standad extrusion but we have had out own extrsion being made which fixes issues with a standard extrusion hence the pre order time frame.
I love the innovation, some well thought out ideas. Other have said it's too expensive, is it though? It looks like a solid design that should last decades, if you want high quality you have to pay for high quality materials.
I will say that I foresee not many setting up the whole system, maybe just the table and one extension.
We didn't want to make a cheap table like some brands are doing to get their name on an MFT table. We opted for quality as there are people who want to buy one set-up and not worry about it again, giving them many years of use; this is the table. Each table is made here in the UK by hand, not in a factory in the Far East. We want people to be proud that they have purchased a product that will not fail them and will have so many uses and add-ons in the future whether it's from us or 3rd party 3D printed. It's not the cheapest, but it's also not the most expensive; you don't have to buy extra parts to fix it. It's solid out of the box.
Very nice system. Well-engineered, expandable & above all, stable. Wheel kit & systainer platform are ingenious. Competitively (similarly) priced to your main competitor, but more expandable, and again, more stable. This is by far a superior design. Looks as stable and expandable as the Dash Board system, at a fraction of the cost.
Any updates on when these start shipping?
Yes we are starting production now we have all our parts in and the pre-orders will start shipping from next week w/c 7th Oct
@@benchdogs-tools great! I’m planning to place an order soon
Looks really good
That is brilliant!
Would ❤ to have it. Are you giving it away?
Yeah sure free for everyone 😂
show us how you get the small tables connected to the main tables.
the Peter Millard video that just went up shows the side tables being removed
Are you going to offer package deal with hinge?
Yes we will sort some pricing for a bundle deal
Is there any assembly/instruction manual? I found the leg.clamping system unable to completely hold the legs at either extreme. Using the sliding white supports the table is very stable but when the legs are folded down into the top I worry the legs might fall down out of the table top due to the inability to clamp the four leg clamps.
There is a leg clip fitted on the table. Once you close the legs this clips into the leg which then holds it in place. If you want to tighten the cam leaver you can also do this you just might need to turn them first.
Weight?
How do you join 2 'main' tables together, side by side ?
Side by side or at each end, its completely modular
Great conception and product by the looks of it. By the looks of it 3 tables could be bolted together. One in front of the other and one length ways down one side...would all the holes still be accurately in line ?
so cool. I might have to sell my Festool double MFTs. Can i get some information on the weights of the various tables? it seems lighter than the MFT from the way the fellow is lifting them in the video.
It is heavier to the festool version but the handle makes it easier to transport around.
thanks! Forgot to ask what is the height range? can it be put against an MFT/3 at the same height?
A thing of beauty
nice setup.
Do you have a smaller version? The extention with four legs?
yes, we will have half-size extensions as coming, so its great feedback to hear all these responses .
Just, WOW 👏👏👏🇸🇪
Any plans for distribution in the United States?
Hopefully sorting this out soon
@@Benchdogtoolswhat about to Australia
Wow...absolutely brilliant and horrifying. I have spent years looking for all the leg constructions and ideas on how to make an MFT from aluminum profiles. All the ideas I found on the internet are used here. The use of hinges for the table legs on the inside is unique and to me genius, although the use of the leg groove is limited. The best part is that it can be made from off-the-shelf components. Your solution to the legs is great. Overall the design of the table is horrible. Each solution has its pros and cons (dashboardp, ultra mft ...). Absolutely great, thank you for the inspiration - the price of the basic table is very reasonable. From me ultra MFT is no.1