we have waited to song for a 10 like him, kicking at poles can be fixed. class cannot. he has it all. the kicks at poles is the easiest to correct. also another option is a Monty situation where someone else takes the kicks at poles and let Manie weave his magic.
I think we should all back him because he brings alot to the attacking play of the team even if his kicks aren't as reliable...I feel someone else should just kick like faf or willemse.
He’s a great dynamic attacking player and brings a different dimension to our game. BUT we play at the absolute highest level, higher than any other team in the world, and that demands coping with the pressure at that level. If we lose the WC because we force it with him, it will only hurt him. Leaving 11 points out on the field is inexcusable.
He is a special talent , can kick on both legs and has all the running attributes to be an attacking force , if he can improve his goal kicking he might just become the greatest fly half since Dan carter
It's his Destiny. 'You must not doubt yourself , Son ... The power lays inside of You!' He must let go of the world around him, close his eyes and let the ancient Spirit of the God's of Kicking control his kicking boot. We hv seen it!? ...and it was beautiful🎉😢 He is the chosen One. We must all belief 😮
This boytjie is going to b one of the greatest Springbok players to hv ever played d game. Rassie, Jacques and everyone from d players to d other SA staff know it already and backing him all d way. If this kid can just get his tee kicking more consistent his d FULL package and if it all comes together ... oh what a privilege íts gonna b seeing him in action! His d ticket alone. Man l just can't wait.
I would never doubt him incredible player, as an Irishman I remember when Johnny had a phase when his kicking was off, you learn from it! Big respect🇮🇪🇿🇦
Well, my friend here in South Africa, they believe only the #10 should kick, due to the legacy of the position with players such as Morné Steyn donning it.
We don't doubt him at all he does a brilliant job on the field I thought I didn't understand why he missed those kicks on SA vs Ireland but now I understand the game plan and I'm proud of the entire Springboks team, the country is proud of you Mannie Libbok I know you can do even better you've got the potential never doubt yourself.
Love Manie Libbock so much skill! His kicking for posts arent great atm. But he can fix that I have faith he brings a different dimention on the attack.
7:43 if you're wondering why he didn't pass to Moodie, the Aus nr12 would have intercepted. could have kicked bt its easier to analyse that in hindsight
its amazing to see a video actually being Pro Manie... everything these days is so against the poor bloke. yes he is going through a patch with his kicking but the SA backline has not been this hot in a VERY long time and its due to Manie
Idc what anyone says.. he has earned his spot and I love to watch him every week. I can’t wait to see him against France on their home ground advantage in the quarters 💯
@@mpilodigitalmarketing when, on the plane on the fucking way home after the France loss??? Wake up, you don’t win games because you participate, but I guess you think you do because you breath without thinking!
You probably worked very hard to make people believe you weren’t stupid, but unfortunately all that hard work didn’t pay off either! If you want to be taken seriously, make a cohesive comment, and please, get spelling and grammar right, that always goes a long way in helping to be taken seriously, although with a comment like that it’s clear there’s no hope for you!
Manie is an incredible Player 🙏🙌❤️♥️🇿🇦 attacking abilitys is on Fire 🔥 the man can't just only kick,he got skills, and a fast Runner with the Ball ❤🔥🔥🙌🙌🙌🙏♥️❤️💯👊
Manie will learn to kick in World Cup conditions with confidence and become the greatest Springbok we've ever seen. They must just set up posts that are 1 meter wide and let him practise kicking through them for a week or 2. Then we'll see...
Big. Match. Temperament. I find he takes a while to get in to his kicking mind set when he is wearing the bok jersey. Next world cup he is going to be flawless.
If only Rassie Erasmus can play a game plan that suits Manie Libbok than we don't have to worry about kicks like we did againts the All Blacks at Twickenham
Manie is my favorite new springbok, how ironic is it that he struggles with post kicking now that its world cup where we always need those 3 points in the end in quarters semis and finals, he is gonna fix it and be great i just wish he was ready for it with this world cup
Give him some time… After leaving the Lions Sharks Bulls nobody even took note of his skill at those clubs until the Stormers saw a skill that needs maturing.. Dobbie and team well done producing national colours…If Rassie is smart get his Stormers kicking and skills coach to France ASAP
Give him time???? We’re you born stupid or did you take lessons? There is NO TIME! It’s the quarter finals of the RWC in 2 weeks time, so when do you want to give him time, when the other teams are playing the semis and the final and SA is headed home? Would you still be saying give him time if the Ireland game was knock out and it was over? Wtf, you’re lucky dumb statements aren’t a crime or you’d be facing a life sentence!
@@StoepZulu I'm VERY happy Pollard is back. He is a MUCH better flyhalf than Manie. He never should have been left out of the squad to begin with, injury or not.
@@Alias-gy3tz 1. 4 weeks ago pollard couldn't even sprint full speed. 2. You are like the coaches who has a hard time letting old legends go, etc Daune/ mapimps and especially FAF You need to learn, just because a player was amazing a coulpe of years ago does't mean they still are. Libbok outplays pollard, it's clear as day, if he could get pollard's post kicking then he will be one of if not the best 10 currently in world rugby, but how about we be adults about this. Sunday night after the game we will see who is right.
the main problem with pollard, is that his kicking stats are not at the level of a morne Steyn or a Percy Montgomery and he is not a better centre than Esterhuizen, Damian de Allende, Luk Am, Jesse Kriel or Canan Moodie. His kicking stats in every boks test he's played is only around 73%. The rest is hype, marketing and influencers. Manie is light years ahead of Pollard., Pollard had a long shit stint in 2021. Manie will fix it once the marketing men shut up and the coaches grow a pair of balls. Springboks have finally unearthed a fly half who can weave magic - and the old guard doesn't like it because although he can speak Afrikaans, he looks too Khoi San African.
You put Immanuel Libbok in an All Blacks jersey at 10, with Damian McKenzie at fullback & Jordie Barrett at inside centre, 🔥. Or even in a French jersey with Ramos at the back!
Exactly. He should have worked on that aspect of his game, he was brought into the team because Willemse is a below par goalkicker. People seem to forget that.
Does not matter if he plays well otherwise. A fly-half needs to be able to kick for goal. Pollard plays just as well and possibly even better, but most importantly, can kick. Just a fact.
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Or he can go work on on his shitty defence and kicking and come back when he deserves the role! We keep having to rejig the whole team for mediocre quotas! Siya should be benched as he showed against Ireland again that he can't be counted on to fetch, but kwagga and Marco can buvthey are benched? Make it make sense
@@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lbhe was the top point scorer in the URC, hes just debuted for the Springboks at a very very crucial time where needless to say we dont have another 10 other than him. You people love to put down these players without even knowing how much burden Manie has to carry on him, hes en route to be our best 10 yet in the coming years and you will act like you've been a big fan of him this whole time when he does!!🤦🏽♂️
@@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lbeintlik you're forgetting how beautifully he played against new Zealand when we won 35-7? He had a 100% kick rate but when he misses a few times ohh my lewe GOD!!😂😂🤦🏽♂️
@@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lbyou're crazy if you think Siya played badly, just because he dropped a few tough passes doesn't mean anything. He put in the most work on defense again, and just because you can't seem to pick that up doesn't mean that he should suddenly be benched. He's the captain?
Pollard has consistently been one of the top 3 fly halves in the world for 5 years. The knockout stages of the World Cup you CANNOT leave points on the field, which Pollard doesn’t. There are no second chances, and the Ireland game should pose absolutely no debate as who should be playing. It’s ridiculous that this is even a debate!
How would having an inferior flyhallf who is like a sword of Damocles over his head thanks mostly to hype around 5 matches not the real stats of Pollard over his Boks career "help his confidence"???/
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Give Manie another year or two and he will be a far better kicking fly half. If managemrnt and coaches know what the problem is with Manie Libboks kicking snd work with him with the help of a kicking coach then yes he will be on parr but i believe Manie is going to shock his critics.
Best stepping, distribution line kicker, no look kick flyhalve. Can't wait to see him grow on the international stage the next four years. Speed of a wing back tracking ability, tackle like a sevens player. The kicking MOJO will return Champ!!! You will be talked about in the history Books as one of the Best flyhalves of all time. I and many South Africans can see what Jaques and Rassie see in you. Stay positive Rugby's ICEMAN your growing into it, once the MOJO returns you will surely be a unstoppable force. 💪
Manie is a talented player - no doubt about it - but at this level you have to be a complete player and that includes goal kicking which for the moment is his weak point and bring a huge amount of criticism - which is good for him. So in order for him to develop - he needs to address that aspect and very quickly.
No one is doubting his attack - they're doubting his kicking and terrible defense. After Ireland saw Cam Roigard, the NZ number 9, run straight through libbok to score NZ's only try at Twickenham, what did they do? A set move where Aki runs at Libbok...and what happened? He ran straight over him and it led to Ireland's only try against us. You think other coaches aren't seeing that?
his defence is better than Pollards! thats a fact so.... hes kicking right now is dire... but i know hes the right man for the job to get the boks to be a champion side for years to come, and not just every 4 years
@@garthmanuel5701 hahahahahahahahahahaha. Mate, Roigard is a 9. Have you ever in your life seen a 9 run through Pollard? Pollard is literally known for being a great defensive 10...he's nearly 100kg, Libbok is 75kg. Go watch the Ireland game again.
@@dcs4880 Roigard ran through Kwagga, Moodie, RG, Damian and then Manie. Are you sure it's not you singling him out like this is not perhaps personal? Because you certainly aren't judging him to the same standards as the other 4....
@@Karma-qt4ji Um no...Kwagga did not miss a tackle on him, Kwagga had just ripped the ball and then dived for it on the ground, he ducked under Moodie, Willemse tried to catch him from behind and probably should have got him...but Manie he ran straight THROUGH...big big difference. And what do you mean personal? Do you think I personally know libbok? Every neutral pundit, including the Irish pundits, are saying that if Pollard played that game we would have won. You have a very short memory - his last game for the boks he was man of the match, he was in unbelievable form for Leicester (go watch his highlights) and...and...we KNOW we can win a world cup with him at 10. If that game against Ireland was a quarter final, we'd be out and you'd be here still defending libbok, because you're clearly blind. Nice one.
@@dcs4880 Pollard missed a few tackles pre 2019 and after in the Lions test he was a shadow of himself..hes kicking was horrendous, couldnt even find touch. remember how the fans were callign for him to get dropped BECAUSE OF HIS DEFENCE?
A springbok level Fly half Should be able to kick. No excuses. His kick from hands and attacking finesse should see him on fullback, not fly half.(eh ehm Damian willemse) Played rugby with Club level Fly halfs that could slot 80% over a season, at springbok level i find it very…very hard to believe there is no better fly half full on offer in our country. Doesn’t matter how good your attack on ball is if you leave 11-15 points a game on the field there is simply no making up for it at test match level.
Manie is one of the best flyhalves in the world..his line kicking and attacking ability is second to none..how sad all people can judge him on a few kicks to poles he misses. All kickers go though this. Without doubt one of the best fkyhalves
Id like to see his stormers teammate... The no12 in the springboks.. what a funken runner on to contact... With this guy at 12.. the stomers 10 12. Combo is hectic
Need a 60% kicker in the starting 15, it's international rugby, not Barbarians running rugby. Either Manie had to learn to kick at goal, or Rassie needed to blood a goal kicker at a different position. Neither has happened.
@@rothnieoosthuizen3728 You sound like the 2015 Heineke Meyer disciples.... Ek veronderstel jy kritiseer nooit die huidige regering nie, nè? En kla ook nie oor Eskom nie? Don't take the youtube comments section too seriously.
Nobody doubts Manie Libbok and what he brings to the team.Truth is SA needs a reliable goal kicker and the only one who can make the team otherwise happens to play in Manie’s position.If we had a reliable kicker who played in another position than 10 this whole sometimes polarising decision would not have arisen.Manie can also help by trying adjustments to his kicking style.Experienced kickers have commented on some adjustments but doing the same thing and achieving the same result is not the answer.
Manie the first 50 min. Then Pollard comes on in the last 30 with the bomb squad, and any penalty within the 50 we can go for goal. Apply attacking pressure in the first 50, no one better than yours truly.
Absolutely love Manie, his attackign game and kicking out of hand is fantastic. Only two things I worry about is his kicking off the tee and the showboating when he scores a try, which will come back to bite him some day if he isn't careful.
It's the only time the ICEMAN shows emotion on the field. So, let's give him that pleasure now and again. But surely he will go down as one of the Best Flyhalves if we and his coaches believe in him. Dobson,Jaques and Rassie.
@@riccardovanwyk8188 Brah what are you talking about? He shows emotion whenever the team scores or for example when his kick-pass went to Arendse, and rightly so he deserves to celebrate that. And I agree he could be one of the greats in a Bok jersey. But that "it's his passion" BS doesn't pass the sniff test. He's a professional first and foremost, and his job is to score points. He can celebrate once the points are in the bag.
Manie needs to adapt the way he prepares for the kick. He takes forev er to get on with it and places pressure on himself and ends up having to hurry the kick before the time runs out
@@rothnieoosthuizen3728 I dont recall Willemse being un reliable for the Stormers and i personally have not seen the poor kicking performance from Libbok affecting his fly-half role. In my opinion he is the absolute best at the moment world wide.
@@travismailsa1 yeah, I think the Willemse kicking issues has come to the fore mostly playing for the Boks. Also he doesn't consistently kick for the Stormers, does he? That being said, I'd have him at 15 in my team any day of the week and twice on Sundays, but not to do the kicking. I'd be hesitant to describe Libbok as the best right now, but he's right up there, for sure.
The Boks need to hire a kicking coach and appoint him to support him. Then the Stormers needs to do the same thing or hire the same guy. Have a sporting psychologist at hand. Nurture the talent and reap the rewards.
That "no look kick pass" made the World Cup history books 👌👍🇿🇦🇿🇦
we have waited to song for a 10 like him, kicking at poles can be fixed. class cannot. he has it all. the kicks at poles is the easiest to correct. also another option is a Monty situation where someone else takes the kicks at poles and let Manie weave his magic.
The issue is there's no one else unless Pollard is there.
Man, the RSA backline is so stacked its a fhuken joke
Just get goal kicks in this tournament!
def very stacked. i think long term they could look at willemse to kick if hes the 15 moving forward? @@KR-jg7gc
Kicking at poles is taking a mighty long time to fix. Singlehandedly lost the Test to Ireland in WC. Don’t trust Libbok.
I think we should all back him because he brings alot to the attacking play of the team even if his kicks aren't as reliable...I feel someone else should just kick like faf or willemse.
Don’t know if you’ve noticed but the problem is the all three players you just mentioned have an international kicking record of 60%
😂😂😂 yeah tried that already 😢
…like Faf…are you OK buddy?
He’s a great dynamic attacking player and brings a different dimension to our game. BUT we play at the absolute highest level, higher than any other team in the world, and that demands coping with the pressure at that level. If we lose the WC because we force it with him, it will only hurt him.
Leaving 11 points out on the field is inexcusable.
@andreschoeman1317 yea let's just hope pollard will do good this weekend
He is a special talent , can kick on both legs and has all the running attributes to be an attacking force , if he can improve his goal kicking he might just become the greatest fly half since Dan carter
Really?
He can KICK with both legs?
The thing is, he has to kick it through the poles....
@@Anti-terrorist3112 keep on crying
@@Anti-terrorist3112 that’s why I said work on his goal kicking you idiot
He can kick with both legs miss😂
@@lourenssmit6158 Il not talking about goal kicking , in field kicking is just as important as goal kicking , especially if you are a number 10
We only doubt his kicking, his attacking ability is second to none.
Agreed. And the kicking game will make or break a world cup final for any team.
It's a small fix. Lower T and angle ball forward more of the T before kick. He'll come good.
@@Howzit73true that
@@Howzit73 if it's a small fix, shouldn't have been fixed already...? i think its a psychological thing, he struggles with big game moments
It's his Destiny.
'You must not doubt yourself , Son ...
The power lays inside of You!'
He must let go of the world around him, close his eyes and let the ancient Spirit of the God's of Kicking control his kicking boot.
We hv seen it!?
...and it was beautiful🎉😢
He is the chosen One.
We must all belief 😮
This boytjie is going to b one of the greatest Springbok players to hv ever played d game.
Rassie, Jacques and everyone from d players to d other SA staff know it already and backing him all d way.
If this kid can just get his tee kicking more consistent his d FULL package and if it all comes together ... oh what a privilege íts gonna b seeing him in action!
His d ticket alone.
Man l just can't wait.
I would never doubt him incredible player, as an Irishman I remember when Johnny had a phase when his kicking was off, you learn from it! Big respect🇮🇪🇿🇦
Well, my friend here in South Africa, they believe only the #10 should kick, due to the legacy of the position with players such as Morné Steyn donning it.
@@thegreytone that's a lie because Percy wasn't a flyhalf
We don't doubt him at all he does a brilliant job on the field I thought I didn't understand why he missed those kicks on SA vs Ireland but now I understand the game plan and I'm proud of the entire Springboks team, the country is proud of you Mannie Libbok I know you can do even better you've got the potential never doubt yourself.
Game plan was miss kik lose to irland and not to face all B
Love Manie Libbock so much skill! His kicking for posts arent great atm. But he can fix that I have faith he brings a different dimention on the attack.
7:43
if you're wondering why he didn't pass to Moodie, the Aus nr12 would have intercepted.
could have kicked bt its easier to analyse that in hindsight
its amazing to see a video actually being Pro Manie... everything these days is so against the poor bloke. yes he is going through a patch with his kicking but the SA backline has not been this hot in a VERY long time and its due to Manie
Idc what anyone says.. he has earned his spot and I love to watch him every week. I can’t wait to see him against France on their home ground advantage in the quarters 💯
Love this guy! A springbok team with Manie translates to a better team... whatever position he plays...
If only he could kick at the same level
He will.
@@mpilodigitalmarketing when, on the plane on the fucking way home after the France loss??? Wake up, you don’t win games because you participate, but I guess you think you do because you breath without thinking!
@@theneutral1164 khuzeka ndoda
@@theneutral1164 keep on crying
I love libbok
Manie libbok has worked his very hard to play for the boks and he is an experience kicker so please don't criticise libbok for his mistakes
he is a shit kicker. Ireland are the best.
Inexperienced kickers shouldn’t be playing for the Boks.
You probably worked very hard to make people believe you weren’t stupid, but unfortunately all that hard work didn’t pay off either! If you want to be taken seriously, make a cohesive comment, and please, get spelling and grammar right, that always goes a long way in helping to be taken seriously, although with a comment like that it’s clear there’s no hope for you!
@@DECA94 according to verkrampte boere like yourself. Fokkof Manie is die beste 10
@@DECA94 you said nothing when Pollard missed alot of kicks instead they persisted with him,no flyhalf in SA comes close to Manie Libbok
Don't doubt him, Manie my Lanie🦌🇿🇦
I'm mean sh*t...he's got Bok in his name!...what a player👍👍
His an all rounder, his attacking ability to Run with the Ball is incredibly
An all rounder that Cant kick?
@@DECA94 He is actually the best kicker on the team, just not the best goal kicker
@@StoepZulu his off hand kicks are nothing Willemse/De klerk Cant match. We need a consistent Goal-kicker.
His got everything this boy 🤞, super talented. Kicking, runs and attacking 10/10. South Africa we are blessed with such talent 👏👏👏👏🌅
Don't know about his kicking abilities But sure is a good player 👏
Manie is a natural rugby footballer.
Love this from you Die Hard Rubgy
0:28 he is a brilliant player...
Manie is an incredible Player 🙏🙌❤️♥️🇿🇦 attacking abilitys is on Fire 🔥 the man can't just only kick,he got skills, and a fast Runner with the Ball ❤🔥🔥🙌🙌🙌🙏♥️❤️💯👊
Libbok hands down my favorite number 10, I will ALWAYS defend against non-believers
Manie will learn to kick in World Cup conditions with confidence and become the greatest Springbok we've ever seen.
They must just set up posts that are 1 meter wide and let him practise kicking through them for a week or 2. Then we'll see...
The GENERAL homself🫡
Manie is a superstar so watch the space
Big. Match. Temperament.
I find he takes a while to get in to his kicking mind set when he is wearing the bok jersey.
Next world cup he is going to be flawless.
So a player who has BMT never loses a game? Boks lost to Ireland this year because Pollard couldn't create any try scoring opportunities.
If only Rassie Erasmus can play a game plan that suits Manie Libbok than we don't have to worry about kicks like we did againts the All Blacks at Twickenham
Manie is my favorite new springbok, how ironic is it that he struggles with post kicking now that its world cup where we always need those 3 points in the end in quarters semis and finals, he is gonna fix it and be great i just wish he was ready for it with this world cup
thanx for the comic relief lmfao
Every man on the Boks' side was a human highlight reel at the 2023 RWC.
Give him some time… After leaving the Lions Sharks Bulls nobody even took note of his skill at those clubs until the Stormers saw a skill that needs maturing.. Dobbie and team well done producing national colours…If Rassie is smart get his Stormers kicking and skills coach to France ASAP
Give him time???? We’re you born stupid or did you take lessons? There is NO TIME! It’s the quarter finals of the RWC in 2 weeks time, so when do you want to give him time, when the other teams are playing the semis and the final and SA is headed home? Would you still be saying give him time if the Ireland game was knock out and it was over? Wtf, you’re lucky dumb statements aren’t a crime or you’d be facing a life sentence!
There is no time left. I hope Pollard has a great game against Tonga, both of the tee and in general play. We need him.
@@Alias-gy3tz no we really dont but aight
@@StoepZulu I'm VERY happy Pollard is back. He is a MUCH better flyhalf than Manie. He never should have been left out of the squad to begin with, injury or not.
@@Alias-gy3tz 1. 4 weeks ago pollard couldn't even sprint full speed.
2. You are like the coaches who has a hard time letting old legends go, etc Daune/ mapimps and especially FAF
You need to learn, just because a player was amazing a coulpe of years ago does't mean they still are.
Libbok outplays pollard, it's clear as day, if he could get pollard's post kicking then he will be one of if not the best 10 currently in world rugby, but how about we be adults about this.
Sunday night after the game we will see who is right.
"and Manie Libbok! scything through the middle of the defence!"🔥
There is only one Manie Libbok...
*Springbok Libbok...*
Pollard is good, but he'll have to dig deep to better what we have seen in this video.
Of all the highlight reels I’ve watched, this one was the most recent.
The best fly half
He is a brilliant player, end of discussion... He should be allowed to improve or if Pollard is in the team than he should be the kicker
the main problem with pollard, is that his kicking stats are not at the level of a morne Steyn or a Percy Montgomery and he is not a better centre than Esterhuizen, Damian de Allende, Luk Am, Jesse Kriel or Canan Moodie. His kicking stats in every boks test he's played is only around 73%. The rest is hype, marketing and influencers. Manie is light years ahead of Pollard., Pollard had a long shit stint in 2021. Manie will fix it once the marketing men shut up and the coaches grow a pair of balls. Springboks have finally unearthed a fly half who can weave magic - and the old guard doesn't like it because although he can speak Afrikaans, he looks too Khoi San African.
He's a champion. Hands off Libbok you naysayers who can't even do a 100m sprint.
You put Immanuel Libbok in an All Blacks jersey at 10, with Damian McKenzie at fullback & Jordie Barrett at inside centre, 🔥. Or even in a French jersey with Ramos at the back!
Stay motivated and we believe in you & you are a champion
dont doubt him. his kicking for poles is dire, it cost us against ireland and we dont have any more matches to build confidence its win or lose now
Exactly. He should have worked on that aspect of his game, he was brought into the team because Willemse is a below par goalkicker. People seem to forget that.
Does not matter if he plays well otherwise. A fly-half needs to be able to kick for goal. Pollard plays just as well and possibly even better, but most importantly, can kick. Just a fact.
Some of those passes in the Ireland game I've only seen Finn Russell or Owen Farrell do before.
NZ had a similar dilemma back in the 80's with the reliable boot of Grant Fox and the exciting Frano Botica, history chose the reliable
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I think he should play flyhalf because he can make good decisions under pressure and then they should put handrè pollard on inside centre (12)
Or he can go work on on his shitty defence and kicking and come back when he deserves the role! We keep having to rejig the whole team for mediocre quotas! Siya should be benched as he showed against Ireland again that he can't be counted on to fetch, but kwagga and Marco can buvthey are benched? Make it make sense
@@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lbhe was the top point scorer in the URC, hes just debuted for the Springboks at a very very crucial time where needless to say we dont have another 10 other than him. You people love to put down these players without even knowing how much burden Manie has to carry on him, hes en route to be our best 10 yet in the coming years and you will act like you've been a big fan of him this whole time when he does!!🤦🏽♂️
@@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lbeintlik you're forgetting how beautifully he played against new Zealand when we won 35-7? He had a 100% kick rate but when he misses a few times ohh my lewe GOD!!😂😂🤦🏽♂️
Pollard at 12 and you’re leaving out De Allende and Esterhuisen! Ffs fans are so stupid!
@@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lbyou're crazy if you think Siya played badly, just because he dropped a few tough passes doesn't mean anything. He put in the most work on defense again, and just because you can't seem to pick that up doesn't mean that he should suddenly be benched. He's the captain?
Great player..going to do great things for the Boks. Go Manie💪🏽🇿🇦
Pollard has consistently been one of the top 3 fly halves in the world for 5 years. The knockout stages of the World Cup you CANNOT leave points on the field, which Pollard doesn’t. There are no second chances, and the Ireland game should pose absolutely no debate as who should be playing. It’s ridiculous that this is even a debate!
Balance is what we need ... let him play his game and then having Pollard on the bench will help his confidence.
How would having an inferior flyhallf who is like a sword of Damocles over his head thanks mostly to hype around 5 matches not the real stats of Pollard over his Boks career "help his confidence"???/
Apologies for asking in the comment section, I couldn't see how to send your channel a message directly: Any chance you could do a highlight video on Virimi Vakatawa? I know you usually just do South Africans but the guy was so fun to watch, and he's back playing rugby again now! Really enjoy the channel. Cheers.
We dont doubt libok we dount a bok team without a kicker
Give Manie another year or two and he will be a far better kicking fly half. If managemrnt and coaches know what the problem is with Manie Libboks kicking snd work with him with the help of a kicking coach then yes he will be on parr but i believe Manie is going to shock his critics.
World cup is now😂
…and the 2023 RWC?, must we forget about this?
It's his first time in the world cup which is on a next level. He will get use to it and kick better ❤
Great video bud! This decision really will be a head scratcher for the coaches.
Legend in the making ❤❤❤
so is a pig rolling around in shit
Only if there is someone in the team covering his backside when it comes to goalkicking. He needs to sort that out.
He is fire 🔥
Incredible man of rugby 🏉 action a future captain 👏
Best stepping, distribution line kicker, no look kick flyhalve. Can't wait to see him grow on the international stage the next four years. Speed of a wing back tracking ability, tackle like a sevens player. The kicking MOJO will return Champ!!! You will be talked about in the history Books as one of the Best flyhalves of all time. I and many South Africans can see what Jaques and Rassie see in you. Stay positive Rugby's ICEMAN your growing into it, once the MOJO returns you will surely be a unstoppable force. 💪
Yea right
@@ronnievorster6361 julle boermoere is hartseer
We need to get behind him!
Manie is a talented player - no doubt about it - but at this level you have to be a complete player and that includes goal kicking which for the moment is his weak point and bring a huge amount of criticism - which is good for him. So in order for him to develop - he needs to address that aspect and very quickly.
Now please tell me who in your mind is the complete flyhalf for the Boks?
RESPECT TO YOU
He is an awesome player❤
No one is doubting his attack - they're doubting his kicking and terrible defense. After Ireland saw Cam Roigard, the NZ number 9, run straight through libbok to score NZ's only try at Twickenham, what did they do? A set move where Aki runs at Libbok...and what happened? He ran straight over him and it led to Ireland's only try against us. You think other coaches aren't seeing that?
his defence is better than Pollards! thats a fact so.... hes kicking right now is dire... but i know hes the right man for the job to get the boks to be a champion side for years to come, and not just every 4 years
@@garthmanuel5701 hahahahahahahahahahaha. Mate, Roigard is a 9. Have you ever in your life seen a 9 run through Pollard? Pollard is literally known for being a great defensive 10...he's nearly 100kg, Libbok is 75kg. Go watch the Ireland game again.
@@dcs4880 Roigard ran through Kwagga, Moodie, RG, Damian and then Manie. Are you sure it's not you singling him out like this is not perhaps personal? Because you certainly aren't judging him to the same standards as the other 4....
@@Karma-qt4ji Um no...Kwagga did not miss a tackle on him, Kwagga had just ripped the ball and then dived for it on the ground, he ducked under Moodie, Willemse tried to catch him from behind and probably should have got him...but Manie he ran straight THROUGH...big big difference. And what do you mean personal? Do you think I personally know libbok? Every neutral pundit, including the Irish pundits, are saying that if Pollard played that game we would have won. You have a very short memory - his last game for the boks he was man of the match, he was in unbelievable form for Leicester (go watch his highlights) and...and...we KNOW we can win a world cup with him at 10. If that game against Ireland was a quarter final, we'd be out and you'd be here still defending libbok, because you're clearly blind. Nice one.
@@dcs4880 Pollard missed a few tackles pre 2019 and after in the Lions test he was a shadow of himself..hes kicking was horrendous, couldnt even find touch. remember how the fans were callign for him to get dropped BECAUSE OF HIS DEFENCE?
A springbok level Fly half Should be able to kick. No excuses.
His kick from hands and attacking finesse should see him on fullback, not fly half.(eh ehm Damian willemse)
Played rugby with Club level Fly halfs that could slot 80% over a season, at springbok level i find it very…very hard to believe there is no better fly half full on offer in our country.
Doesn’t matter how good your attack on ball is if you leave 11-15 points a game on the field there is simply no making up for it at test match level.
Don't doubt him!
Manie is one of the best flyhalves in the world..his line kicking and attacking ability is second to none..how sad all people can judge him on a few kicks to poles he misses. All kickers go though this. Without doubt one of the best fkyhalves
Not judging, you want to win not look good , its a test you fail if you dont win period
2:49 don't watch much rugby..can he also play in the centres?
He played outside centre before.
Excellent montage! What a talented player. I think he will still make history for us!
Yes, if he sorts out his goalkicking.
Manie is the GOAT 10
Id like to see his stormers teammate... The no12 in the springboks.. what a funken runner on to contact... With this guy at 12.. the stomers 10 12. Combo is hectic
excellent player
Need a 60% kicker in the starting 15, it's international rugby, not Barbarians running rugby.
Either Manie had to learn to kick at goal, or Rassie needed to blood a goal kicker at a different position.
Neither has happened.
You need a 80% + goalkicker, Manie is kicking at around 40%.
@@Alias-gy3tz you are right, a 60% kicker would be a major improvement, but 80%+ is the requirement.
Option 3 is that you take over from Rassie since you clearly know better.
@@rothnieoosthuizen3728 You sound like the 2015 Heineke Meyer disciples....
Ek veronderstel jy kritiseer nooit die huidige regering nie, nè? En kla ook nie oor Eskom nie?
Don't take the youtube comments section too seriously.
@@vanrensburgarchitecturebim1641 make no mistake, I'm no fan of Rassie's. My sarcasm is purely aimed at the simplistic solutions on offer.
Manie will get better and better. Who am I to critise. He's doing an incredible job for the country. I will support him in his good and bad times.
Nobody doubts Manie Libbok and what he brings to the team.Truth is SA needs a reliable goal kicker and the only one who can make the team otherwise happens to play in Manie’s position.If we had a reliable kicker who played in another position than 10 this whole sometimes polarising decision would not have arisen.Manie can also help by trying adjustments to his kicking style.Experienced kickers have commented on some adjustments but doing the same thing and achieving the same result is not the answer.
Still, the coach himself doubted his kicking and replaced him with the eternal Pollard.
Manie the first 50 min. Then Pollard comes on in the last 30 with the bomb squad, and any penalty within the 50 we can go for goal. Apply attacking pressure in the first 50, no one better than yours truly.
Mannie can also cost you the game, he single handedly lost the cup for the Stormers in two seasons.
He works for Sports betting.
Future captain
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Keep up the great work Manie Libbok, we know and believe in your quality. The naysayers are useless and jealous of you. Ons weet mos hoe hulle is.
the bulls doudt him, 👀where he is now. 🙏dont him🙌he will win us this RWC
Manie will make world player of the year within the next 5 years (touch wood)
First time i saw a Fly Half get reclaced a minute 30.
The more important the game, the more he disapiers
He blows hot cold too often ... bad kicker
Great scoring play making machine, hopefully someone like Pollard can help him tune in his kicking during high pressure games.
Absolutely love Manie, his attackign game and kicking out of hand is fantastic. Only two things I worry about is his kicking off the tee and the showboating when he scores a try, which will come back to bite him some day if he isn't careful.
It's the only time the ICEMAN shows emotion on the field. So, let's give him that pleasure now and again. But surely he will go down as one of the Best Flyhalves if we and his coaches believe in him. Dobson,Jaques and Rassie.
@@riccardovanwyk8188 Brah what are you talking about? He shows emotion whenever the team scores or for example when his kick-pass went to Arendse, and rightly so he deserves to celebrate that. And I agree he could be one of the greats in a Bok jersey. But that "it's his passion" BS doesn't pass the sniff test. He's a professional first and foremost, and his job is to score points. He can celebrate once the points are in the bag.
Manie needs to adapt the way he prepares for the kick. He takes forev er to get on with it and places pressure on himself and ends up having to hurry the kick before the time runs out
I am a big Manie Libbok fan and I really hope he finds his grove.
He has a groove, just not consistent enough at the poles. Why hasnt Willemse taken the role as he did Stormers before moving to fullback
@@travismailsa1Willemse isn't a reliable kicker either, but unlike Libbok, having the kicking responsibility affects the rest of his game.
@@rothnieoosthuizen3728 I dont recall Willemse being un reliable for the Stormers and i personally have not seen the poor kicking performance from Libbok affecting his fly-half role. In my opinion he is the absolute best at the moment world wide.
@@travismailsa1 yeah, I think the Willemse kicking issues has come to the fore mostly playing for the Boks. Also he doesn't consistently kick for the Stormers, does he? That being said, I'd have him at 15 in my team any day of the week and twice on Sundays, but not to do the kicking.
I'd be hesitant to describe Libbok as the best right now, but he's right up there, for sure.
Geen probleem ons like hom kwaai. Wys net voor die game vir hom waar die pale is!
his game will only get better
World cup pressure is insane, and needs experience - class player
If he fixes that he’s perfect
The Boks need to hire a kicking coach and appoint him to support him.
Then the Stormers needs to do the same thing or hire the same guy.
Have a sporting psychologist at hand.
Nurture the talent and reap the rewards.
First bushman flyhalf
That kick at 1:02 didn't go through, look closely 😂it was always on the right of the post.
Same thing I saw🤣
Can you make a montage of why we should doubt him, first click should be from yesterdays game vs Argentina
An attacking flyhalf is good maybe but winning the game is better.
So he has to get his goalkicking right otherwise the attacking side means nothing.
He just cost us a game we are 2nd in the world now thanks to his missed kick against Argentina wow just shocking to miss from that distance
Gonna be difficult to beat the Boks.