I think most people are missing the point to this post. My issue isn’t a replacement drummer as much as the fact that they took out an ad during the Super Bowl to promote a gig that one of the four members is not going to play. This extended video ad shows all these new fans (and one old one) to U2 that are desperate to hear the Achtung Baby record. If it’s so important for these “new fans” to hear, U2 play this particular record, isn’t it important to include all the original band members? Is this something that could’ve been advertised on U2.com and not the biggest sporting event in the US? Bands replace members or have musicians fill in all the time but they don’t advertise these gigs on the Super Bowl. As a long time, U2 fan, I thought it was an odd move. Larry is the driving force behind the band. The were a stadium band because of him.
Nope. Don't think its important. Just My opinion. The Eagles played without Glen Frey. How big of a missing piece is that? If its a business strategy to get new fans, then we'll see how that plays out. Maybe its a fail. Maybe its not. No matter how much we appreciate drummers and their contribution, non-musicians and the majority of the music purchasing public see U2 as Bono and the Edge. That is insanely inaccurate, but I'm a musician and appreciate the entire band. I think of Zeppelin. The drummer is gone, they're done outside of a one-off here and there. But that is a rare decision. Just a fact. I don't believe the Little River Band has any original members. Anyway, an Ad is just a business strategy. With the size of the audience, I can see them getting the investment back. With how tight these guys have been since they're kids and what I perceive as a decent moral character, its had to imagine this wasn't planned by the entire band. If they get 1m people to download Achtung Baby, they're hearing the original band. Seems like a reasonable trade off especially if the guy left out wants the band to do it. My 2 cents which is worth even less than that.
Spot on, Rick! Larry Mullen Jr. has back surgery and recovery to do this year and he already commented a few months ago that if the band is touring in 2023, they can't count with him. Personal health issues are way more important! The fact that the band had this residency planned together with the guys at the Sphere since the beginning of the project, and possibly having to pay for damages in the case of not performing, can be one of the reasons for their ridiculous decision. Also requirements from their latest signature/extension of the contract with the label could be. What I have to say is that U2 started do go seriously downhill with the release of SOI. Continued their descent with SOE and now their S.O.S request is really hard to swallow. Achtung Baby should be a worldwide tour like the Joshua Tree 2017 anniversary! For us older fans and also newer ones. Not a show in the place where bands go to die... And not without a band member who is the beloved founder of all. Larry said that touring is only to be done while it's being fun. It takes a huge toll on their health (drummers suffer a lot), personal lives, etc. I suppose that the replacement drummer isn't going to have as much fun as he thinks. Bono's super inflated ego isn't going to be easy on him...
U2 may have committed to opening the sphere before the construction went at least a year beyond schedule. They were probably contractually bound to opening the venue. Further, the development of the very technology being used may have been heavily dependent on U2's residency and all the multimedia used, developed, and tested just to get it working. Most importantly though, U2 is a four-piece equal partnership operation. It used to be 5-equal before manager Paul McGuinness retired. Nothing gets done in this band without Larry's approval. They have at least 2 albums ready to come out. Their future is a long-range campaign, probably planned years in advance and opening the most revolutionary high-tech concert space is a MUST-DO for them. In my opinion, Larry likely had a huge part in this decision and very likely a very huge part in selecting Bram van den Berg as the drummer to stand in for him. Larry's not just the band's drummer. He's the founder and 25% owner. I'm sure Larry is 100% cool with this. And if you disagree, you should probably speak to Larry Mullen Jr. about it. Love ya, Rick.
Yeah, that's the hunch I had too after the first "what the" wore off. Plus why would they break the band over performing songs from a record that brought them back together. Doesn't make sense. Considering how many drummers end up with physical issues and Larry being known to be having trouble for ages, I just hope that whatever issue is preventing Larry from participating isn't too serious, ditto if it's personal and not medical.
This (above)! I think the venue and timing of their commitment had alot to do with their agreement to do this. I am a drummer, and was at the Sphere for their last show on March 2. It was unlike anything I've seen or heard before. Still processing it. @rickbeato - I am a huge fan of your channel. Here is a suggestion - do a video on Bram van der berg and how he totally nailed this gig. He was amazing!
The fact that Larry could not play due to a back injury was made clear well in advance. I found that out on general media. I've been a fan for many decades. As I am a Beatles fan. I was at the sphere the second night. 14 hours travel each ways for a 3 night stay. It was great beyond belief, without Larry who was badly missed. Bram van den Berg was superb ! As a bass player myself have loads of respect how he gelled with Adam, which must have been a big ask. During the gig they threw a song at him he had not rehearsed to keep him on his toes. It was raw. Just brilliant. Bram van den Berg is not Larry and will never replace him, but give him credit. He was playing in front of the most amazing spolight I've ever seen.... Respect for Bram van den Berg
Larry Mullen has been suffering from back problems since the 80’s. It is something he has struggled with for a long time. As someone who has chronic back problems (I have two metal rods in my spine) I can understand where he’s coming from. Ultimately this was done with Larry’s blessing. He’s not being permanently replaced. I imagine that this residency has been in the works for awhile. They probably signed contracts a long time ago and are therefore committed to it.
Keeping him under the stage is SO 80's and such bullshit! The Stones have Chuck Levell on stage, no big deal. All you do is tuck him in the back a bit. Aerosmith does the same like the Stones.
I think that Bram van den Berg has nothing to do with this. If you were a drummer, and U2 would ask you to play gigs with them, would you say, no thank you? Come on... And Bram said, that there is only one Larry Mullen Jr.. So what he did, will do, took a lot of guts, and is fantastic. Look at Bono, Edge, Adam, and Larry. Beause they decide.
Especially in what is, essentially, an instrumental trio ( a 1-guitar rock band). The drummer has to add depth. That's the hardest thing to replace in a rock band (think Foo Fighters). If ALL they perform in the Residency is songs from Achtung Baby, that's 12 songs. Assuming the fill-in is a real pro... he probably needs a minimum of a day with the band per song just to prevent things from getting sloppy -- and another day per song to get it tight. Do you think Bono, Edge, and Adam have been rehearsing with the new guy 8 hours a day 5 days a week for 5 weeks to justice to the material? Maybe, but I wouldn't bet on it.
I love U2. And can't believe I'm saying this. But there is no way I'd go see them for that show. I saw them in 2017 for the Joshua Tree Tour. And their first song that night is burned in my memory. Larry Mullen, Jr walked out on stage, by himself, and kicked off Sunday Bloody Sunday. How could U2 do a show without him? Well, they can't. Because it's not U2 without any one of those band members. Period.
He apparently needs multiple surgeries. I remember when Cheap Trick elected to continue playing live gigs when Bun E. Carlos didn't want to tour anymore. Then I saw them live and they still kicked ass and they're older than Bono, Edge, etc. It's been four years since U2 had a gig. They want to play and I'm fine with it. Not many bands formed in the '70s have their original lineup. I'd definitely pay to see the Vegas shows.
@@Alpha_7227 Aerosmith, Def Leppard, Kiss, Sammy Hagar and dozens of legacy acts play Vegas. It's easier on the band and crew because they don't have to travel. Bono is 62. The road is a grind.
As a drummer approaching 60, the stamina is becoming difficult and my heart goes out of rhythm and takes me out for a whole day at times. Fans just don't understand how hard drumming is. I can still put on a solid performance, but it is now twice as hard. I couldn't do multiple shows every day, no way. I don't think I could do a one hour show every day. I think the Vegas shows are not just once a week or something? That said, I could play guitar multiple shows every day. I could sing the same. I play guitar since age 5 even though drums are my primary instrument. I am planning switching to guitar when drumming is no longer possible which is coming quickly. I mean drumming at a very high energy, like Rush, which is my style.
Larry has suffered with drumming related injuries for decades, even documented where he had to travel to Germany regularly to get bull's blood or some derivative injected into his spine. Even on the last tour, I believe he was getting 2-hour massages or something before shows. He puts some of it down to being self taught on drums and not playing "properly". Also he's 61 years old. One full gig at the level he drums at is an athletic feat nevermind a residency. I really hope this isn't it for Larry!
Seeing them live during the Joshua Tree tour in 87 at 17 is one of those timeless memories. They were fantastic live back then. I can understand them missing the connection with the crowd from the stage, and Im guessing Larry gives his blessing… if he didnt want them to go without him I dont think they would.
I'd have a problem with this if Larry asked them to wait so that he could fully recover, but he's given the band his blessing to move forward. If anything, I'd say it's a pretty selfless move so that U2 fans don't have to keep waiting to see the band live (and there are still a lot of younger U2 fans who have never seen them live). A lot of things can happen in a year or two, and the band isn't getting any younger. Plus, it's not out of the ordinary for someone to fill in for a band member. Things happen, but to quote a Queen song, the show must go on...
I will never forget the first time I listened to Unforgettable Fire w my little sister. We were sitting on the floor with our ears next to the speakers of our parents giant furniture stereo. The opening drum sequence to a sort of homecoming still gives me chills.
In most movies and cartoons, good triumphs over evil. Most people enjoy such movies and cartoons. It is because people love good. Study, work, exercise, illness, etc. cause stress. Stress creates an evil mind and leads to evil actions. Most people are good, but stress breeds bad thoughts and bad behavior. Give peace to all people by freeing them from study, work, exercise and disease.
Understandable, though listening to this makes me feel a bit sorry for Dutch drummer Bram van den Berg, who will replace Mullen and can't wait to play with the band. He's been a huge U2 fan since he was a kid, so it's a once in a life-time dream come true.
I'm sure he's play his part dead-on, and it'll be a career boost. But doing this at all is a bad decision. I find it particularly cringy that their ad showed fans who probably can't afford to go see this residency, even. But that's what I expect from hopelessly out-of-touch mega-millionaires.
I love to see deep Beatles trivia like this… kudos!! However, I think that example is a bit different. The Beatles most likely were already contractually obligated to those venues. Also, they were at a critical point in their career - if they didn’t constantly appear publicly, the public might move on to the next thing and they would be yesterday’s news. U2 are an established brand international brand and have been for decades. However, as I write this I’m imagining U2 worrying that because of covid and their dwindling brand recognition amongst young people, they need to do something big now, and can’t afford to wait for Larry to be available. They wanna stay massive and can’t afford to wait another year to make a major statement. Also maybe the contract with Sphere is something they’re locked into from a while back. So in conclusion, I actually agree with you lol
Jimmie Nicol filled in on a 1964 tour during the absolute zenith of Beatlemania, so I think The Beatles had even more to lose. I’m sure lots of fans weren’t happy that Ringo wasn’t there. I saw them live in 1966, and I’m very happy all four were there. Like you say, I think we are basically in agreement. Beatles forever!
Because U2 are completely out of touch with modern music. If they can't adapt without their safe as houses drummer, they should just hang up their boots and ride off into the sunset. How did King Crimson survive without Bill Bruford? They got Gavin Harrison to cover him. How did Black Sabbath continue touring without Bill Ward? They got Mike Bordin in. How did Dream Theater adapt without Mike Portnoy on drums? Etc etc
Been a fan of the band for 30+ years. One of the most admirable and impressive things I find with U2 is their camaraderie and togetherness. The same line up without interruption for over 40 years. Simply put U2 is Bono, Adam, Larry and Edge. When Bono was injured in 2010, U2 made the decision to cancel Glastonbury. Yes it was a disappointment but if they couldn't ALL play it, then they'd wait until they could. I think it's really poor that they're willing to go ahead with the Las Vegas residency without Larry. I think it would have been better received by fans and the media (in terms of integrity and solidarity) if the band declined the gigs, saying sorry but we can't do this without Larry....maybe next year. Where is that group mentality? That integrity and loyalty? Larry was interviewed just before the Kennedy Awards and his answers appeared quite negative. Almost like he was unaware and uninformed of U2's plans for the coming year. Get the impression that Larry has decided he's had enough, Bono and Edge are desperate to continue at all costs and Adam is very torn and conflicted. Can't help feeling a bit disappointed.
Graffiti augmenting a wheat-glue poster advertising their new album on the wall of a magazine shop at Prince and Sullivan in Soho sums up the calculus of U2 in the 21st Century rather perfectly: Songs of Surrender ...to the Status Quo
Incidentally....all the songs they've pre released from Songs Of Surender, so far, all sound very bass and drums light. Larry has a very distinctive style and sound and I can't hear that on these new arrangements? I appreciate that this is a strpped back, almost acoustic interpretation of the songs but it sounds if Larry and Adam have had very little input. I've heard Edge comment on this new album and I've heard Bono comment too, but I haven't heard anything from Adam and Larry. As a musician, Edge is more than capable of playing the bass parts and the minimal drum parts for this album in the recording studio. Just wondering if Adam and Larry have had any input at all? Could this be another vanity project from Bono and Edge, to tie in with the autobiography? Or am I just being unreasonably cynical?
To be perfectly fair - it's a bit different to postpone their own tour (and in the case of Glasto, play it in 2011, which they did) than to break contract for something like this. It's also very different when it's your lead singer who is out as opposed to the drummer. And I say this as a ride-or-die U2 fan of 42 years who has seen them play 50+ times. This also isn't the first time U2 has played with a replacement (ZooTV Tour 11/26/1993) when Adam missed a gig because he went on a bender in Sydney. His bass tech, Stuart Morgan played in his place.
@@ROBERTINI77that's Steve Lillywhite's influence ...got him on the click for the 3rd record..as a drummer myself it's the best thing I learned to do over 30 years ago..groove with a click
To be fair, this gig has apparently been in the works a very long time. With a contract, designed sets & production, people sub-contracted & everything. The band didn’t plan on doing it without Larry. And I know he’s given his blessing to the other three members to proceed & honor their contract-I just wish if they must preform without any member of the four, that they’d do it under another name. U2 are unique in rock for their longevity & NEVER having any lineup changes for 43 yrs. It’s a shame, because I love the album Achtung Baby so much. And I still love U2. Legends. GET WELL SOON, LARRY.
Well, since he's not actually leaving the band...he may well come out and sing on occasion. My fandom goes back to when Kev started playing cassette tapes of Boy and October in his Isuzu Trooper when we were in high school. Also saw what I believe was the initial live performance of The Dalton Brothers in 1987 in Indianapolis.
U2 is one of those bands where every member brings a unique flavor to the band. Larry Mullen Jr's drums are iconic. I can hear the drums right now in Sunday, Bloody Sunday without listening to it. It's amazing drumming. So iconic. I agree with you on this, Rick. Not having Larry in the band when Larry is fully capable is a misstep. Give him the time off to rest and recoup and then hit it. Don't replace.
They made two good/satisfactory records in the start and bored us for the next thirty years. That is not iconic. Iconic is influential, well considered , evolving over time but not contrived snooze rock coupled with political tokenism. Z
The sound of the the drums on that album was as much Steve Lilywhite as it was Larry Mullen, Jr. listen to anything Lilywhite produced during that period and the drums have that same raw edge. A good example is Simple Minds Sparkle In The Rain album.
Absolutely correct. I certainly wouldn't go if Larry wasn't there. Surprised they are doing this.. Bono is loaded so he doesn't need the money that badly.
@@CandiceJoergan Its bot about the money its about wanting to keep playing live. If a member is sick or passes , then trying a replacement is fair eg Motley replaced Mick Mars with John 5 due to Micks health, Quuen replaced Freddy, ACDC replaced BonScott . Why is rick complaining if Larry is sick ?
The Drum intro to "bullet the blue sky" is as iconic as John Bonham's intro to "when the levee breaks". Just as Led Zeppelin couldn't go on without Bonzo, I don't see how U2 can go on without LMJr.
I respectfully disagree with you on your statement about the drum into for "Bullet the Blue Sky" being as iconic as the one in "When the Levee Breaks". That's just not the reality.
@@brivington2011 I respect your assessment. What I meant was that both are two bars of unaccompanied drums that are instantly recognizable and unmistakeable.
I completely agree with you there. It's off centre, dirty, punchy, confrontational even.... As a song intro, its def. as iconic & important as the best of them. Certainly hooked my ear in 1987...(the whole song is utterly tremendous)I'm a drummer, I would say Mullen was my main influence when i was 8/9 drumming his beats on my bed (before I'd a kit).
I was 9 when my father bought me my first drum kit, and Larry was the first drummer that fired up my imagination. Then came Ian Paice, Stewart Copeland...almost 20 years later, now I play jazz and experimental music; something that Larry probably wont like. But Larry was my gatekeeper to drumming and I still admire him a lot. Thank you Larry and I wish you all the best for your recovery. Also a big thank you from Italy to Rick for all your videos, which are super!
I was a U2 fan from the very beginning and was so excited to finally see them live during the Joshua Tree tour at the Fabulous Forum in L.A. I was only 21 and decided I didn’t want nosebleed seats so I spent quite a bit of money and bought tickets from a scalper (I worked a lot of overtime to do this). So, they played for ONE HOUR. One lousy hour. Part of this hour-long gig consisted of Bono berating anyone who bought their tickets from a scalper. He went so far as to call those people “losers and assholes”. I was so disappointed and pissed. Bono has gotten more and more arrogant over the years and I simply cannot stand him. Yes, I know all about his charity work, so don’t bother to tell me. Bear in mind, he wouldn’t be able to do his charity work without the money paid by hard-working people like myself. Bono can póg mo thóin.
@@japhyryder66 Well sorry to say that i know i will be harsh, but form my point of view that's kind of karma thats give you back from buying a ticket form a scalper. Which isnt a good thing and for me Bono was right. Sorry to hear that the concert was not the thing that you expcted but U2 are (and still) one of the most professional band in any genre of music, so...if they did thatm they could have some good reason (maybe Bono was without his voice, which happened frequently during that tour).
@@edoardomaggiolo9464 So you took time out of your day to tell me I deserved what I got? You really are a tool. Bono was in fine voice at that show, and I was a very young woman who loved this band and just wanted good seats for a change. I worked extremely hard to pay for those tickets. Your shitty comment will certainly affect your karma, pal. GFY.
@@japhyryder66 Well, honestly thats my opinion about scalping and people who use it. As i said my opinion could be not polite, but scalping is an issue, werether are the reasons that everyone could have to do so. And I think that Bono was right about that and you exaggerated in your resentement to him adn about that concert. Nothing personal about you, but I will not say to you that it was a good thing to do, from my point of view. As for the rest, well, I think i can use my time to respond to a comment that i persnally dont like. And as you can read, I'm not offending you...
When Phil Collins, at age 70, slowly walked out to sit on a stool and sing for Genesis as his son played drums, I realized what a toll a lifetime of drumming takes on the body. If LMJ needs some tweaks to play later in life, I hope he has the best surgeries and recoveries.
I hear what you are saying but Phil Collins abused his body with alcohol and generally took terrible care of himself leading to the embarrassment that was his farewell tour. Drumming was the least of his issues. I get the impression Mullen took pretty good care of himself. He always looked fit and fresh. I'm sure he will get back out there.
Add the late, great Neil Peart to that mix. The effects of raw drumming on his joints (in addition to suffering and eventually sadly succumbing to brain cancer) definitely affected him in the mid-late 2010s. Drumming and touring, day in and day out can absolutely take its toll. RIP Neil!
I remember seeing U2 3D at an Imax theatre. The opening shot was Larry Mullen Jr.'s drum set from above - a really great visual. I did not realize he would not be playing in Vegas. Wasn't he the one who jumped into a cab at he end of the video for I Still Haven't Found What I 'm Looking For video???? If I can get a ticket to see them in Vegas I will, and I will bend over to accept the price of the ticket - no lube required. I saw them during the 360 tour - and that was one of the best concerts I have ever seen (Weird Al's Mandatory Fun and Roger Water's The Wall make up the Top 3).
I have been a big u2 fan since 1984, saw them for the first time in 1987 in Gothenburg, Sweden. I think Achtung Baby is their best album. Can't believe they're going to play without Larry Mullen Jr. absolutely sick. Can't they wait for him to recover?
I've been a huge U2 fan for the past 43 years. Since Larry gave his blessing, I'm OK with it. They don't have a tour booked, just the residency, so my hope is that Larry will heal from his surgery and be back with the band.
I think this has been in the works long before Larry realised he couldn’t play! I’ve already started looking up flight costs (from Australia) for around that time. I’ve seen them play without Adam in Sydney 1993. It was fine. The guitar tech was amazing! It’ll be fine Rick, and if you are not into it, don’t go. Silly rant. 😂
The 9 studio tracks on Rattle & Hum range from epic to classic to very good. If they had included just those 9 studio tracks, it would have been a classic (easy top 5) U2 album.
I respectfully disagree. They are crushing it it Vegas. Larry recovering from surgery couldn't withstand night after night shows, now they extended the residency. Bram is an amazing drummer, he fits perfectly. As Bono says, " I'm still tryin to figure out who this guy is." You should just relax and enjoy the show. I am 55 and been with them from the beginning, 15 shows and will go again. There is no replacing Larry, listen to what he says each night during the show. Peace
A group (or artist) knowing when to leave the stage at their peak is an elusive skill. Crossing the line between relevancy to being a musical curiosity is a thin one.
Up through their last tour (pre-Covid), U2 was still focused on trying to be relevant, whether or not they were perceived as such. They played new songs from their most recent albums, and filled in the rest with many songs from Achtung Baby, actually. With the exception one-off of their Joshua Tree tour, this is the first time that they're not touring in support of a new release. So in my book, they haven't yet crossed the line into a tribute band of their younger selves (which is what 99% of other bands from their era have become).
I walked into a Tower records when October came out. I was transfixed and it didn't leave my turntable for 4 months. Been a big U2 fan ever since. Well, until the 90s. But they were the real deal. Saw them in the 80s in front of 150,000 at the US festival and then in front of 80,000 people.
“Rattle and Hum” is a fantastic album. Captured a moment with the live stuff and the new songs were epic. “Heartland”, “All I Want Is You”, “Angel of Harlem”, “Desire”, “When Love Came to Town”, “Van Dieman’s Land”. That’s more great songs than some bands have in a career.
It is a stellar album; "Heartland" is an underrated masterpiece. I think that because it came after the classic "The Joshua Tree" that it didn't meet people's unrealistic expectations. Though U2 is one of the rare bands that has knocked out 4 classic albums IMO ("War", "The Joshua Tree", "Achtung, Baby", and "All That You Can't Leave Behind").
@@PaulTincknell I think it was just because “the Joshua Tree” was so big. As soon as you achieve that sort of success, people start tearing you down immediately.
Sorry but Rattle and Hum can’t hold a candle to their first four albums. Someone described it as if they were kids on their first visit to the RnR HoF, grabbing at every bust that crossed their paths. The film just displays their unbelievably inflated egos.
I always got the feeling that the scorn people felt for this album had to do with Bono's image at the time. I was in middle school when the movie came out, and I fully went for it, loved the album, had the other songs from the movie that did not make the album on tape, and played that amazing version of Sunday Bloody Sunday all the time. I watched the movie for the first time in a decade during the pandemic, and I was like "oh, yeah, he is kinda insufferable in this" I still love the album, tho
@@marpsr I grew up with them - same age - and "Rattle & Hum" didn't achieve the heights of their first four; it was never meant to. It was a grab bag of leftovers, experiments, and explorations of rock that influenced them that allowed them to leave that phase behind and create "Achtung, Baby". But there is a lot of great material on it, and the live stuff rips. Give it a fair listen and a U2 fan shall be rewarded!
Totally agree with you, The Unforgettable Fire is my favorite album by them as well, the title track and video still gets me emotional every time, just saying, appreciate your comment ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾💯✌🏾
Omg unforgettable fire!!! 😍 Start to finish I swear I have left this plant! Probably my absolute favorite albums of all time ever!!! Every song!!! My emotions are all over the place right now just remembering the first time I put that record on! I sat down on my bed looking at the cover and reading all the info!!! Became hypnotized by all the sounds, extra sounds even though faintly coming through, I could hear them. Ahhh. I have to go buy this now! 😩 It had gotten stolen long ago with so many other music I had collected. That's ok though! Love it!!!
As Pat Metheny said in your interview, it doesn’t matter who the headliner is on the marquee, it’s the drummer. Larry Mullen is the tightest drummer I’ve ever heard. When U2 played Live Aid, he and Adam Clayton kept a vamp going in rock solid time for something like ten minutes while Bono surfed the crowd… it was amazing. I’m interested but skeptical to hear what they sound like with someone else behind the kit.
@@richardclark6858 That's a little harsh, but I won't argue with you. I've been a fan since Chronic Town. Saw them live twice right before Reckoning came out and right after. I am much more a fan of the older stuff.
I stumbled onto a Yamaha drum piece about Larry some 6 months back. They were visiting him at home etc. He was heavily hinting about being beat up physically and needing serious time off to heal- he also hinted and at possibly being done with touring live as well.. His choice in the end. It ain’t easy when you got that many miles in your rear view mirror. Let’s collect all the data I’d say.. all the best⚡️
Hardly seems fair to expect that a band can only perform live providing that all original members are on stage. Why should the illness or death of one member dictate the end of everyone else's passion and career? Ticket sales will reveal how people feel about it anyway. Hopefully Larry is able to heal up well and get behind the kit again soon. His drumming is unique and is an important part of the U2 sound!
I'd say lots of people would buy tickets without even knowing, then get there and be like what the fuck, who is that drumming? Saw people do that with RHCP in the dark days of Josh being their guitarist.
Yeah, if one person leaves the band, I don't think the rest are obligated to quit. I don't know what Larry's prognosis is but I think illness and injuries are a little different. We don't know when the residency was booked or when Larry became unable to perform. I do feel like this residency is different than if they were playing a set at Coachella. It is the celebration of the band's career and, unless Larry is questionable to return, I think postponing the residency would have been better, but there are a lot of things that might sway my opinion if more information comes out.
I must be one only feels since atomic bomb that music been slow slide .to bottom .for me this seems band trying inject life with cheque book .drum up hype sad think have buy peoples love back .all need to do be themselves rediscovey they best assets .not sell out there friend and yeah
@Into the Superunkown I felt the same not too long ago; Gang Of Four touring but the only original member left at this point was guitarist Andy Gill, so we didn't bother getting tickets. Also, on 2002 had bought tickets for The Who live, bought them before Entwistle died. Still went to see them play and they were technically excellent, but lacking a little feeling overall.
I'm still scratching my head to why everyone is still blaming the band because an album they simply gave away for free had been ridiculed for so long because "Apple's tech people" made it hard to delete off the phones and yet the company has copped nothing, pathetic.
it's Bono they are blaming cause it's just what people do. Stones can do whatever they want but when it's U2, suddenly the drummer is the most important. This is bullshit Bono hate wrapped in 'concern for Larry' sheep's clothing.
I’ve been listening to U2 for about 36 years, and the reason I first gravitated towards that band was because of LMJ. Something about his drumming just pulled me in. U2 was the first band where I would put on a song while exclusively listening to the drum parts. To me, he is the main ingredient in the special sauce that is U2, and it’s lame they aren’t willing to wait for him to recover before they start doing shows again. Fans are happy to wait for LMJ, it’s the rest of the band or their management that seems to be pushing; don’t blame this on the fans, because true fans feel otherwise.
I've been a fan of U2 since the first album, but it actually took me a few decades to realize the heart and soul of U2 music, the real magic of the band has always been that rhythm section. Adam Clayton & Larry Mullen Jr., no one has done it better.
It's been done better by so many bands though. U2's drummer and bassist wouldn't even crack a top 30 list of legitimate rhythm sections across rock. Even those guys would admit it.
For me, the Edge makes U2 as well, that's why I don't like the albums where he doesn't feature as much, or is just repeating things from the past, most of the albums since Pop. Bono was amazing until his voice went, don't think he's sounded good since the 90's. It isn't U2 without any of them, and without the voice Bono had, they will never be the same, but if they want to carry on, that's fine by me.
It was actually a (potentially) brilliant move. We were at the Sphere on the first night and the technology was the show. Don't get me wrong, the music was amazing but the experience was like standing in a pair of virtual reality googles. This sets up a second residency or tour billed as Larry's return. Expect "Pop Mart - 2027" at a "Sphere" somewhere in Europe, on the 30th anniversary of that album. We'll be there.
We were out in Vegas in August 2022 and I asked our Lyft driver what that big sphere thing was when we drove past it. They were still finishing it up at that point, but he said it was a new entertainment arena. He also said that U2 was slated to be the first act with a residency in it when it opens in 2023, so they had to have that deal inked for a while even at that point. I'm guessing they were working on it way before Larry had to go into back surgery.
The Stones continued without Brian Jones, Mick Taylor, Bill Wyman, and now Charlie Watts…Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers continued without Ron Blair, Stan Lynch, Howie Epstein…Van Halen continued without DLR,…Journey and Santana continued without…pretty much everyone! The list goes on and on. Arguably, great stuff happened in each band as they evolved. Sometimes line-ups changed amicably, sometimes in anger, sometimes for ego and money, sometimes in illness/death, sometimes in addiction, sometimes in burnout, sometimes to save off-stage relationships - lots of reasons. Is Larry obligated to always want to do/play/live as his HS friends always want to, even in his 60’s? If Larry has chosen not to proceed and the other guys want to do it, and all are okay with that, why not live and let live without judgement? Music benefits from harmony more than dissonance. If Larry is harmonious with the guys, who are we to create dissonance? I hope it sparks new energy. Respect the individuals, expect nothing; and accept what’s offered and what’s to come - just might be better than ever!
Achtung Baby is their near perfect masterpiece. Saw the ZooTV tour at Yankee Stadium. The first time I heard 'One' live, I openly wept. The lyrics, the sunflowers, the buffalo falling off the cliff...speechless. I can't vision anyone else behind the drum kit other than Larry. But if tickets aren't in the Taylor Swift range, I'll be there.
For me it was the image on screen of the little kid playing the drums, right at the start - I saw 90.000 people going absolutely crazy! Note that it was the first time U2 were playing in my country so everyone was in ecstacy (not the drug, although some may have been) ;)
It seems as if nobody here gets it. There is only one Grand Opening, only 1 first show in a venue like the sphere. Nobody has seen anything like it. It was an honor for them.
I think the harsh reality may be that the average person going to see a show in Vegas doesn't know anyone in the band other than Bono and maybe The Edge. The band and management know this. The hardcore U2 fan will be pissed, but 80-90% of the concert going public can't name most members of a band or their albums, they know the hits and show up expecting to see Bono and whoever else is playing they really don't care about.
I can't help feeling that Achtung baby is their best album... one of the best albums that came out in those years at all. Not a single song an that album disappoints and I bet I will still listen to it when I'm old(er) lol.
Achtung Baby for me is one of the best records of all time and the one that influenced me the most. And it's not just the songs, it's the sonics too. To me, it always sounds like the Berlin of the early 90's resonating with the Berlin of the 20's and 30's. The Fly must have one of my favourite guitar solo's of all time. It's not a difficult solo in terms of notes, but the sound is sheer genius. I still try to capture that exact sound on my guitar to this day. No idea how they got that sound on the record.
@@lauraallen55 uh huh..hope you’re up to date on your COVID booster shots Bono & his buddy Kill Gates want you to get so bad because they care about you 😉
I love Rick´s rants. It´s pure passion. By the way: when legends start to perform in Vegas, this is mostly the beginning of the end. Just my 2 percent.
Neil, Geddy & Alex went out the right way. with a BANG, 'They-2' should-a, could-a done the same, 'Vegas' lol, Rush would never even have contemplated playing so low.
Zoo Station has one of the best lyrics in music imo. "Time is a train, makes the future the past. Leaves you standing in the station, your face pressed up against the glass". Ranks right up there with Billy Joel's "they're sharing a drink they call loneliness, but it's better than drinking alone".
I remember being in a Music store in 1983 and they played the video for New Years Day, I was transfixed, Been a U2 fan since. depending on the day, different albums are my favourite, but War, The Unforgettable Fire, Joshua Tree, are far and away my favourites. I can't imagine them playing without Larry Mullen Jr., much like I can't imagine Rush playing without Neil Peart. I don't fault them, just don't know if I would pay to see them.
Very well said. I’ve been a massive U2 fan for so long that they were my favourite band when most people (at least in North America) had not yet heard of them. U2 without Larry Mullen Jr. isn’t U2.
Went to see U2 with friends, in Tampa Florida, on my Birthday in 1987. The moon was full and it was cold out. It was the best concert I have ever attended.
I of course would prefer they play with Larry but being a life long fan and having not seen them live since Dec 2019, I’m still very much looking forward to this show. Especially at this new venue which will probably be amazing, and Achtung Baby is my second fav album just behind The Joshua Tree. You definitely make good points but 3 out of 4 members (as long as one is Bono) will be sufficient for me. Zoo TV tour is still the best tour I’ve ever seen. I just pray that I can get tickets.
I feel like Bono and the Edge are what people focus on. I know many of you wont agree. Let's just be happy to see them play again after a 4 year hiatus. The real fans will be so psyched to see them no matter what they have to do to make it happen. Just my humble opinion.
100% correct. I hate this idea because I'm a bass player, but the average audience member doesn't know anyone outside Bono and The Edge, and only cares about hearing U2's hits. I think Rick is seeing this like everyone's a hardcore U2 fan. Besides, did they even say Larry's absence is permanent? I don't understand the outrage.
When Bono had his bike accident a handful of years ago, the band was slated to play a televised gig, and they had a number of star singers fill in for him. Didn't go too well. They came out & said at the time that they wouldn't do such a thing again. Well, here we are.
U2 is one of my favorite bands ever. I'm only 34, but discovering Achtung Baby and the ZOOTV Sydney performance pretty much changed my life around 15 years ago. I will always admire them, and I still consider No Line on the Horizon their last great successful attempt at something unique only they and their producers are capable of. A Vegas residency, to me, is in itself sad, but without Larry Mullen, it's an absolute waste. I truly love U2 and always will. But their desperation to say "relevant" has been their worst enemy for a while. No Line on the Horizon was an artistic triumph, but a commercial disappointment, and since then, they've seemed desperate to get their moment again, ignoring what people most expect: great, adventurous music. They will never be the trendiest band in the world, and that's just fine. It's a shame they seem to care so much about the spotlight they were so good at rejecting not so long ago. In any case, U2 will always be an amazing band, I just wish they realized it more often.
@@ianf9253 I also agree. It’s a miracle it was so good, after the never ending process making it, abandoning so much recorded material, firing multiple producers, etc. Somehow they need to convince themselves they are 20 again, with nothing to lose, stop trying to please everyone, and make something gritty, dangerous, or at least unexpected. I’ve been a fan since I saw them as an opening act 42 years ago, but Achtung Baby, IMHO, tops the list of their ballsiest and most genius moves ever. More of that, please.
I agree No line on the horizon it’s the best thing thing they have done in 25 years! But still not close to their best albums, or any album prior to 1993. It’s the only decent thing they’ve done in 25 years, and a decent album. I was a huge fan of U2 since the late 80’s. But the last 15 years I stopped caring about them. I have around 100 CD’s and 25 LP’s of I2, including albums, EP’s, singles and bootlegs. But I couldn’t care less about their last 3 or 4 albums. I would still attend one concert in one of their tours, but not everyone of them, like before. I don’t know why they’re doing this though, their last tour was a success, don’t know why they need a Las Vegas residency. But Achtung Baby it’s their best album, by far, so it’s a good choice. I just wish they retired 20 years ago.
Absolutely agree about No line I thought the same they really tried. And I agree also, they should stop trying to be relevant. It doesn't matter. Acthung is my favourite album if they ever come to Argentina with that show I'd definitely go. Hopefully WITH LARRY
I totally agree with you, no line on the horizon was the last great album..I think it also had to do with the state of the industry at the time. My record deal fell through during that time period too.. hah. songs of innocence, experience and surrender albums all really did not grab me.
I’m a fan of your channel Rick, but I totally disagree with this one. Page and a plant played w/o Bonham or JpJ and I was so grateful to see them, Pimk Floyd played without Syd or Roger and again I was so grateful to see them. Larry is amazing and yes, it’s a bummer he’s not playing for sure, but if the other guys want to rock then they surely should.
Boy, I really respected when John Paul, Robert, and Jimmy said, "We lost our drummer. We're done." A bustle in your hedgerow indeed. Peace out from Taipei
Bram first couple of nights had struggles with tempo or following the click. But he settled in and has done a very formidable job. I did not miss Larry and I’m sure Larry coached Bram to do the gig. I’mglad they did the residency in this incredible new venue. I’m sure they missed Larry but it was definitely full blown U2 up on that stage. The only absolutely irreplaceable guys in U2 are Bono and Edge.
@@sylsalas Three times here too and I wish it had been many more. LM was there at the last show I went to and the crowd went wild. That would have been the second to last night of the series.
I was wondering who that was. I wish they had let him be on stage with them. Unfortunately they are committed to a certain image and aren't allowed to vary from it.
Not as upset as some are about this. It is almost unheard of for a band to have been together for over 40 years and still have all its original members. After all this time, if one member either had enough or physically can't do it anymore and the other members still want to play, I won't hold it against them to replace the member. Not every band will do the right thing like Zeppelin to call it quits after Bonham passed away.
As a U2 fan since the first album (saw them for the first time in 1982) I subscribe every single word you say, Rick. And would add: Larry Mullen Jr. is the rock that’s been keeping U2 together for a long, long time. I didn’t ear anything about this residence without Larry and I’m shocked. Is it money? Naaaa! Something else really wrong is going on.
Not sure what the fuss is here. 1. They had a commitment to play, hard to change contracts like this. 2. LMJ couldn’t make it but gave his blessing for a replacement. 3. The band announced long in advance that LMJ couldn’t join and there would be a replacement drummer, so no surprises. 4. If you don’t want to see U2 without LMJ, then don’t buy a ticket. 5. In the end Bram did a great job, showing that the band selected their drummer wisely, probably with input from Larry. Hopefully Larry recovers quickly and will be back for the next album/tour. Honestly, how many bands haven’t had to temporarily replace a band member, especially for live gigs. And some bands permanently replace band members (Rolling Stones, AC/DC, even Queen is trying to continue without Freddie).
I whole heartedly agree. The iTunes thing was a disaster, when I saw the ad, my wife was like; "Achtung Baby?? Didn't they already release that album?" We had no idea what it was for until this video. Like you, I've been a fan since 1980 when "Boy" came out. It blew my mind, especially since as an 18 year old, the band members were within a year or two in age to myself. I saw them in 1988 at the old Boston Garden and again in the mid 90's at Gillette Stadium (Home of the NE Patriots). I get the whole Las Vegas residency thing, since many bands are doing it, but wait until Larry is well and can join, and let's not just do Achtung Baby shall we?
Really funny to see that we Dutch people and media are really proud that a Dutch drummer is going to play with U2. But from a U2 fan perspective I can fully understand your criticism.
I sort of thought to myself, how does U2 actually find a Dutch drummer, drummer of Dutch band “Krezip”? 🤔 As a Dutchie, I WAS someone who liked U2. Sorry to say it, but I lost interest in U2 quite a while ago…..
Achtung Baby was my first CD ever, that I bought with my own money, as a teenager. I had cassette tapes and LPs of U2, but the CD was new, and it was a huge deal. That album also features One, my favorite U2 song since the first time I listen to the entire album. That was the first song where I was like, wait a minute, this is incredible. So when I heard it was an Achtung Baby tour, and the new sphere with supposed incredible immersive sound, it sounds like something U2 would be into. Their live shows are always spectacles. But it does make you wonder, can some random Dutch guy I've never heard of, do what Larry Mullen Jr does so beautifully...
Rick, Larry had surgery and is recuperating !! That's why they have a stand in playing with them !! Don't worry he's not leaving the band just recuperating!!
my favorite story about Larry was Eno talking about how one time Larry said that a click track was changed by a few BPM- he just ignored him because neither he nor anyone else in the studio could perceive it. But it turned out that Larry was right- his sense of time was so acute he could hear the change in feel just from those couple of BPM difference
For what it’s worth for the two people to read this, I’m a life long fan of the band’s. Seen them 17 times. Even in Times Square when Bono couldn’t join. If Larry gave his blessing, then so be it. I hope to see the Vegas show. The sphere just screams U2!
Wake up! The bass player (Clayton) hasn't evolved one minor scale in decades beyond the "Thump-de-thump" 4/4 beat. Rhythm section speaking, they're boring as hell. - But if they float your boat, go get 'em boy.
@@JamminClemmons I agree. All of that focus on serving the song and playing the right notes when they could be off seeing how many notes they can fit into a bar and exploring polyrhythms. Adam Clayton is not my favourite bassist in the world, but when that band hits the stage it is tight.
I've seen U2 many times- amazing live band- and I wouldn't be as excited to see them without Larry. But if he needs to take a break and the others want to do it without him, I don't see why it's a problem.
I look at it like Bill Berry leaving REM. If he doesn't want to do it anymore but has no problem with the band performing without him, who am I to disagree with him? My understanding is Larry is pretty physically beat up at this point. Drummers have to take way more physical abuse than anyone else in the band, and Mullen has infamously had back problems that almost made it impossible for him to sit and play for hours. If I were too physically or mentally unable to tour, and I know it was depriving my longtime bandmates and friends the ability to do something they love, I would have no issues with them going on without me.
It's like going to see Aerosmith without Steven Tyler, Pink Floyd without Dave Gilmour or Steely Dan without Donald Fagan. It will NOT be U2. If you're content without seeing any of those bands without it being those members, then more power to you. I would not go and see U2 without ANY of those 4 members. Because it's not U2. You can argue semantics all you want, but it's not changing anything.
@@valuedhumanoid6574 Hmmm... that would be like saying Ozzy wasn't the same without Randy Rhodes... while things were different with other guitarists, Ozzy was far from done.
After reading several very hysterical comments I will give my opinion: U2 has maintained its formation since 1976, I think it should be the maximum case of longevity for a band. They only acted without a member on 2 occasions, Adam Clayton on the ZooTv tour and Bono when he had an accident (U2+1). U2 must have a contract to fulfill and Larry has a health problem... what is the problem that the group acts with the consent of Mullen???? Of course, if it were not so, it would be very bad, but there is no indication that this is the case. Furthermore, his absence is not definitive. And if it were, I want Larry to keep collaborating on future projects. We fans know that he is the origin of U2. Greetings from a U2 fan from Argentina.
I had the same reaction, Rick! Can’t imagine them performing without Larry, let alone performing a monumental record like Achtung Baby. Doesn’t make sense
I loved so much when a free u2's album appeared in my iTunes. It turned to be my favorite album from them... weeks later I went to the store to buy it physical.
@@ericMT Yes, I admit it was a little weird that the devices didn't ask for permission but it was just as simple as deleting one album if you were not into it. Anyway, I loved that album so much and it was a beautiful surprise to turn on you iTunes and see a whole u2's album in your account.
Yes! Thank you, Rick. It takes a real U2 fan to critique U2 properly. Also, how does playing in Vegas reach out to their global fan base? Seems like a very different motivation to me.
I totally agree with you on the motivations! Can you imagine how taxing the actual travel aspect of being on tour is at their age? Having a residency is cushy! It's the reason cruise ships are popular, right? All the amusements and only unpack once. I mean if the guys want to have their families with them they can pull a Celine Dion and live a nice, safe "real" life off the Strip, private schools, churches, it's all there. Not to mention SO many beautiful places within a 5 hour road trip. And of course if they feel like partying the cliche Vegas is there if they tip generously the city will treat them very well. Best of both worlds I would imagine while they rake in the $$$. I feel bad for the replacement, after all Journey's close but still not quite right. I can't wait to hear what Rick has to say after seeing them!
Well, I've been a "real U2 fan" since the 80s, and IMO Rick is blowing this out of proportion. If he had really kept up with the band, he'd know about Larry's constant back problems. He's not quitting the band or "being replaced", he's just not doing these residency shows for his current health issues. Say what you want about Vegas, but a series of residency shows allows them to do some really over the top stuff in terms of stage effects and stuff. I'm sure at their age, the idea of doing another world tour, especially without their friend and bandmate was something they thought wasn't feasible. So the next best thing would be staying in one spot and letting the fans come to them to see a great live show.
I originally thought doing the Vegas shows without Larry was a terrible idea. Since then I've seen some of the video footage from those shows and it looked and sounded amazing. This is something that took a few years to prepare for, so I can see why they couldn't postpone. Bran was a very capable replacement drummer for these shows. The fans that attended the Vegas shows looked like they enjoyed and had a good time. I had my doubts, but I was very impressed with how things turned out. Having Larry in the audience the 2nd last show and saluting him was a nice touch. Rick, keep posting these great videos.
Achtung Baby is my fav U2 album. It was just so radical & so different to what they had done before, yet they still managed to sound like U2. Let's hope this doesn't mean Larry is retiring on health grounds
I get the annoyance but c'mon, no band can go on forever. They're in their 60's, likely very aware of their own limitations as ageing human beings. Who knows how many shows/tours they have left. Also, the venue in Vegas looks incredible and they'll be the first act to play inside it
Nope, not missing the point. Player injured so substitute comes on, does a great job. Player back well again and gets back on the pitch, substitute having done a great job.
This didn’t age well, because a) the show turned out great, b) it’s commonly understood now that the contract predates Larry’s injury and c) the ‘nobody’ is doing fine.
Larry's been dealing with serious back issues for many years. He's basically unable to drum anymore. It sucks but as you no doubt know, drumming is hard on the body. So yeah, it sucks that he won't be able to play the residency, but it's not like they're intentionally pushing him out. As far as the residency goes, I think it's awesome. I'm excited to see it. Touring is super hard, and they've toured at the highest level for over 30 years. Just let them do the residency and have fun.
Regret never seeing them, but can’t imagine traveling expense and show expense to see this show? Their whole catalog is so deep with HITS! Great band , great music. LM Jr. (…the rhythm section of that band) is the heart and soul.
Rick is an encyclopedia, exceptionally gifted, hard working and multi talented. Whether hes' talking about U2 or Bach his take is always amazingly refreshing and enlightening.
It is strange. Can’t believe they are playing without him! At the same time if Larry is good with it, I suppose it’s okay. Will have to see how it goes over.
I am really looking forward for that concert. I have been a fan since I remember, actually I was in that concert in Honolulu in 2006, there was a marathon the next day and I had to sleep on the beach because I couldn’t find a hotel. Nice memories.
This gig that U2 are playing is a promotion for the venue. "The Sphere" is a $1.8 billion entertainment facility scheduled to open at the end of September, and they have the biggest band in the world lined up to draw the people in. It has been in the works for a long time. I was in Vegas in June 2022 and it was known then. The fact that Larry needs surgery is an unfortunate damper on the event, but the show must go on. Hopefully this kicks off a world tour, to go with the new rekindled album.
How can u tour album and not talking that lame covers effort.bono says songs surrender the third boring triolgy its not lord the rings bono ego got better of him .to say there got this amazing new rock n roll album but we not gong but it out because to awsome .then drummer says he not on same hym book seems writing on wall sad cash grab.
Right. It's a venue promotion. And the venue will open regardless of Larry's condition. If U2 is gonna play that opening, U2 plays it with or without him. One reading of this is that U2 would rather open this venue than have all 4 members play together. That leads to questioning why it is more important to play the new venue than it is to keep the foursome whole. Which also leads to a ton of speculation about Larry's future with the band and the band's future, possibly, without Larry. Can U2 still be the world's biggest band without Larry? I don't know. I know I will go. It will be the 10th or 11th time seeing them since the first, which was Auchtung Baby tour. And it won't be the same. I can already imagine myself leaving, saying it was an amazing U2 show but it was a bummer Larry wasn't part of it. Guess we will see.
I think most people are missing the point to this post. My issue isn’t a replacement drummer as much as the fact that they took out an ad during the Super Bowl to promote a gig that one of the four members is not going to play. This extended video ad shows all these new fans (and one old one) to U2 that are desperate to hear the Achtung Baby record. If it’s so important for these “new fans” to hear, U2 play this particular record, isn’t it important to include all the original band members? Is this something that could’ve been advertised on U2.com and not the biggest sporting event in the US? Bands replace members or have musicians fill in all the time but they don’t advertise these gigs on the Super Bowl. As a long time, U2 fan, I thought it was an odd move. Larry is the driving force behind the band. The were a stadium band because of him.
Sad! So sad ... :(
The one thing I could think of it's the production company that took the ad out and not the band or management.
Nope. Don't think its important. Just My opinion. The Eagles played without Glen Frey. How big of a missing piece is that? If its a business strategy to get new fans, then we'll see how that plays out. Maybe its a fail. Maybe its not. No matter how much we appreciate drummers and their contribution, non-musicians and the majority of the music purchasing public see U2 as Bono and the Edge. That is insanely inaccurate, but I'm a musician and appreciate the entire band. I think of Zeppelin. The drummer is gone, they're done outside of a one-off here and there. But that is a rare decision. Just a fact. I don't believe the Little River Band has any original members. Anyway, an Ad is just a business strategy. With the size of the audience, I can see them getting the investment back. With how tight these guys have been since they're kids and what I perceive as a decent moral character, its had to imagine this wasn't planned by the entire band. If they get 1m people to download Achtung Baby, they're hearing the original band. Seems like a reasonable trade off especially if the guy left out wants the band to do it. My 2 cents which is worth even less than that.
If the drummer is unwell, there's not a lot to do, as they say, the show must go on.
Spot on, Rick!
Larry Mullen Jr. has back surgery and recovery to do this year and he already commented a few months ago that if the band is touring in 2023, they can't count with him. Personal health issues are way more important!
The fact that the band had this residency planned together with the guys at the Sphere since the beginning of the project, and possibly having to pay for damages in the case of not performing, can be one of the reasons for their ridiculous decision.
Also requirements from their latest signature/extension of the contract with the label could be.
What I have to say is that U2 started do go seriously downhill with the release of SOI. Continued their descent with SOE and now their S.O.S request is really hard to swallow.
Achtung Baby should be a worldwide tour like the Joshua Tree 2017 anniversary!
For us older fans and also newer ones.
Not a show in the place where bands go to die... And not without a band member who is the beloved founder of all. Larry said that touring is only to be done while it's being fun. It takes a huge toll on their health (drummers suffer a lot), personal lives, etc.
I suppose that the replacement drummer isn't going to have as much fun as he thinks. Bono's super inflated ego isn't going to be easy on him...
From what I understand the band still hasn’t found what they are looking for.
That was good lol
Maybe they should stop looking where the streets have no name.
Slaps back of Michael's head.
Maybe someday they will go over the edge.🤷🏼♂️
…I will follow…the money…
U2 may have committed to opening the sphere before the construction went at least a year beyond schedule. They were probably contractually bound to opening the venue. Further, the development of the very technology being used may have been heavily dependent on U2's residency and all the multimedia used, developed, and tested just to get it working.
Most importantly though, U2 is a four-piece equal partnership operation. It used to be 5-equal before manager Paul McGuinness retired. Nothing gets done in this band without Larry's approval. They have at least 2 albums ready to come out. Their future is a long-range campaign, probably planned years in advance and opening the most revolutionary high-tech concert space is a MUST-DO for them. In my opinion, Larry likely had a huge part in this decision and very likely a very huge part in selecting Bram van den Berg as the drummer to stand in for him.
Larry's not just the band's drummer. He's the founder and 25% owner. I'm sure Larry is 100% cool with this. And if you disagree, you should probably speak to Larry Mullen Jr. about it.
Love ya, Rick.
Yeah, that's the hunch I had too after the first "what the" wore off. Plus why would they break the band over performing songs from a record that brought them back together. Doesn't make sense.
Considering how many drummers end up with physical issues and Larry being known to be having trouble for ages, I just hope that whatever issue is preventing Larry from participating isn't too serious, ditto if it's personal and not medical.
That was my gut feeling as well. While they have a phenomenal drummer for this particular show, I hope Larry is able to fully recover!
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This (above)! I think the venue and timing of their commitment had alot to do with their agreement to do this. I am a drummer, and was at the Sphere for their last show on March 2. It was unlike anything I've seen or heard before. Still processing it. @rickbeato - I am a huge fan of your channel. Here is a suggestion - do a video on Bram van der berg and how he totally nailed this gig. He was amazing!
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In over 40 years, this is the first time Larry's called in sick. I think we can give the band a break.
You actually claim to think?
@@helmutsecke3529 Yes.
@@JOSEPH-vs2gc Oh FFS
called in sick and getting PAID
@@guyrelax PTO is a real thing. And a good thing.
The fact that Larry could not play due to a back injury was made clear well in advance. I found that out on general media. I've been a fan for many decades. As I am a Beatles fan. I was at the sphere the second night. 14 hours travel each ways for a 3 night stay. It was great beyond belief, without Larry who was badly missed. Bram van den Berg was superb ! As a bass player myself have loads of respect how he gelled with Adam, which must have been a big ask. During the gig they threw a song at him he had not rehearsed to keep him on his toes. It was raw. Just brilliant. Bram van den Berg is not Larry and will never replace him, but give him credit. He was playing in front of the most amazing spolight I've ever seen.... Respect for Bram van den Berg
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Nice! What random song did they throw at him? Just curious.
Larry Mullen has been suffering from back problems since the 80’s. It is something he has struggled with for a long time. As someone who has chronic back problems (I have two metal rods in my spine) I can understand where he’s coming from. Ultimately this was done with Larry’s blessing. He’s not being permanently replaced. I imagine that this residency has been in the works for awhile. They probably signed contracts a long time ago and are therefore committed to it.
Agreed. I do wish they’d address it more thoroughly. Nuance is dead…
Thank you for having a brain and heart, sorry to hear about your back pain, if it's legal in your area look into CBD not a cure but it helps
Yeah maybe it's also booked out for the following year too so they can't postpone etc.
I have scoliosis, but it’s minor compared to some. Sitting on a stool for 2-3 hours is the worst thing for it. Every night would be horrific.
Yep it took him decades to realize he should have been using a drum throne with a back on it.
"It's no secret ambition bites the nails of success" The Fly - U2
Underrated comment 🌟
"It's no secret that the stars are falling from the sky"
This comment didn’t age well.
The real 5th member is Terry Lawless who plays all the keys and triggers loops from beneath the stage. A true legend of a guy
Keeping him under the stage is SO 80's and such bullshit! The Stones have Chuck Levell on stage, no big deal. All you do is tuck him in the back a bit. Aerosmith does the same like the Stones.
We need more people under the stage triggering loops. What a joke, you serious he's vital? I don't think The Beatles did that or Zeppelin.
Did not know that...very interesting.
The Edge would be nothing without looper pedals!
@@moogy77 But he's part of the crew, not the band, or something like that. Theer's no bullshit, working men doing work.
I think that Bram van den Berg has nothing to do with this.
If you were a drummer, and U2 would ask you to play gigs with them, would you say, no thank you?
Come on...
And Bram said, that there is only one Larry Mullen Jr..
So what he did, will do, took a lot of guts, and is fantastic.
Look at Bono, Edge, Adam, and Larry.
Beause they decide.
I am a drummer and I appreciate your support and respect for how important the role of and the person drumming is!
Especially in what is, essentially, an instrumental trio ( a 1-guitar rock band). The drummer has to add depth. That's the hardest thing to replace in a rock band (think Foo Fighters). If ALL they perform in the Residency is songs from Achtung Baby, that's 12 songs. Assuming the fill-in is a real pro... he probably needs a minimum of a day with the band per song just to prevent things from getting sloppy -- and another day per song to get it tight. Do you think Bono, Edge, and Adam have been rehearsing with the new guy 8 hours a day 5 days a week for 5 weeks to justice to the material? Maybe, but I wouldn't bet on it.
@@zonachoke very much agree! Really depends on the style, and a band like this ... Idk. Gonna be odd for sure.
Yup! "The Who" without Keith Moon is an oxymoron.
But what isn’t thinking is. The drummer doesn’t want to play anymore and rest of the band does. What’s wrong with that
@@kayzinti4452 The Who without Moon and Entwistle is a tribute band.
I love U2. And can't believe I'm saying this. But there is no way I'd go see them for that show. I saw them in 2017 for the Joshua Tree Tour. And their first song that night is burned in my memory. Larry Mullen, Jr walked out on stage, by himself, and kicked off Sunday Bloody Sunday. How could U2 do a show without him? Well, they can't. Because it's not U2 without any one of those band members. Period.
They have lost all integrity. For 1. Playing Vegas like some cabaret hasbeen cruise group, 2. Continuing without Larry. Thats, ridiculous.
Well said.
He apparently needs multiple surgeries. I remember when Cheap Trick elected to continue playing live gigs when Bun E. Carlos didn't want to tour anymore. Then I saw them live and they still kicked ass and they're older than Bono, Edge, etc. It's been four years since U2 had a gig. They want to play and I'm fine with it. Not many bands formed in the '70s have their original lineup. I'd definitely pay to see the Vegas shows.
@@Alpha_7227 Aerosmith, Def Leppard, Kiss, Sammy Hagar and dozens of legacy acts play Vegas. It's easier on the band and crew because they don't have to travel. Bono is 62. The road is a grind.
As a drummer approaching 60, the stamina is becoming difficult and my heart goes out of rhythm and takes me out for a whole day at times. Fans just don't understand how hard drumming is. I can still put on a solid performance, but it is now twice as hard. I couldn't do multiple shows every day, no way. I don't think I could do a one hour show every day. I think the Vegas shows are not just once a week or something? That said, I could play guitar multiple shows every day. I could sing the same. I play guitar since age 5 even though drums are my primary instrument. I am planning switching to guitar when drumming is no longer possible which is coming quickly. I mean drumming at a very high energy, like Rush, which is my style.
My fear is that this means that Larry's health problems are much worse than they're letting on. :(
That's the first thing I thought 🙁.
Same. I mean if he's having surgery, would wouldn't you just wait for him to recover? Certainly Bono can't be out of money!
Took covid vaccine... enough said
he's having surgery and needs time to recover. he's not a young guy any more either 🤷♂️
Larry has suffered with drumming related injuries for decades, even documented where he had to travel to Germany regularly to get bull's blood or some derivative injected into his spine. Even on the last tour, I believe he was getting 2-hour massages or something before shows. He puts some of it down to being self taught on drums and not playing "properly". Also he's 61 years old. One full gig at the level he drums at is an athletic feat nevermind a residency. I really hope this isn't it for Larry!
Seeing them live during the Joshua Tree tour in 87 at 17 is one of those timeless memories. They were fantastic live back then. I can understand them missing the connection with the crowd from the stage, and Im guessing Larry gives his blessing… if he didnt want them to go without him I dont think they would.
Lets turn this around with historical perspective. How many great bands haven't toured an amazing album/show without one of its band members?
I'd have a problem with this if Larry asked them to wait so that he could fully recover, but he's given the band his blessing to move forward. If anything, I'd say it's a pretty selfless move so that U2 fans don't have to keep waiting to see the band live (and there are still a lot of younger U2 fans who have never seen them live). A lot of things can happen in a year or two, and the band isn't getting any younger. Plus, it's not out of the ordinary for someone to fill in for a band member. Things happen, but to quote a Queen song, the show must go on...
Event the Beatles used a substitute drummer for a few gigs...
I will never forget the first time I listened to Unforgettable Fire w my little sister. We were sitting on the floor with our ears next to the speakers of our parents giant furniture stereo. The opening drum sequence to a sort of homecoming still gives me chills.
“And you know it’s time to go…” I had the cassette and still feel like I’m 17 when that song comes on. Chills is right.
The Unforgettable Fire is the best album, possibly the best pop record ever. Joshua Tree was close and got more attention but UF is amazing.
In most movies and cartoons, good triumphs over evil.
Most people enjoy such movies and cartoons.
It is because people love good.
Study, work, exercise, illness, etc. cause stress.
Stress creates an evil mind and leads to evil actions.
Most people are good, but stress breeds bad thoughts and bad behavior.
Give peace to all people by freeing them from study, work, exercise and disease.
@@joelrivardguitar Agree! That's what I'm always saying 👍
That is the first CD i bought with my own money.
Bram grooved incredible hard with respect for the original parts Larry played. Great, great job Bram, congrats!!
Yeah I am Dutch too. Bram deed het goed hoor!
Yes he has been nailing it big time.
agreed
Understandable, though listening to this makes me feel a bit sorry for Dutch drummer Bram van den Berg, who will replace Mullen and can't wait to play with the band. He's been a huge U2 fan since he was a kid, so it's a once in a life-time dream come true.
I love that Bram gets this chance, and sure he'll do great. But if you've been a U2 fan for a long time (with the narrative) this is a bit odd
And people are going to hate him for it. Sad but true.
Doing this is a terrible gig for anyone by any measure.
Yes, this gig will be a blessing and a cruse! Also see my comment above.
I'm sure he's play his part dead-on, and it'll be a career boost. But doing this at all is a bad decision. I find it particularly cringy that their ad showed fans who probably can't afford to go see this residency, even. But that's what I expect from hopelessly out-of-touch mega-millionaires.
The Beatles toured with a fill in drummer when Ringo was sick. If they could do it, I see no reason why U2 couldn’t.
I love to see deep Beatles trivia like this… kudos!! However, I think that example is a bit different. The Beatles most likely were already contractually obligated to those venues. Also, they were at a critical point in their career - if they didn’t constantly appear publicly, the public might move on to the next thing and they would be yesterday’s news. U2 are an established brand international brand and have been for decades. However, as I write this I’m imagining U2 worrying that because of covid and their dwindling brand recognition amongst young people, they need to do something big now, and can’t afford to wait for Larry to be available. They wanna stay massive and can’t afford to wait another year to make a major statement. Also maybe the contract with Sphere is something they’re locked into from a while back.
So in conclusion, I actually agree with you lol
Jimmie Nicol filled in on a 1964 tour during the absolute zenith of Beatlemania, so I think The Beatles had even more to lose. I’m sure lots of fans weren’t happy that Ringo wasn’t there. I saw them live in 1966, and I’m very happy all four were there. Like you say, I think we are basically in agreement. Beatles forever!
Because U2 are completely out of touch with modern music. If they can't adapt without their safe as houses drummer, they should just hang up their boots and ride off into the sunset. How did King Crimson survive without Bill Bruford? They got Gavin Harrison to cover him. How did Black Sabbath continue touring without Bill Ward? They got Mike Bordin in. How did Dream Theater adapt without Mike Portnoy on drums? Etc etc
Exactly
agreed
Been a fan of the band for 30+ years. One of the most admirable and impressive things I find with U2 is their camaraderie and togetherness. The same line up without interruption for over 40 years. Simply put U2 is Bono, Adam, Larry and Edge.
When Bono was injured in 2010, U2 made the decision to cancel Glastonbury. Yes it was a disappointment but if they couldn't ALL play it, then they'd wait until they could.
I think it's really poor that they're willing to go ahead with the Las Vegas residency without Larry. I think it would have been better received by fans and the media (in terms of integrity and solidarity) if the band declined the gigs, saying sorry but we can't do this without Larry....maybe next year.
Where is that group mentality? That integrity and loyalty?
Larry was interviewed just before the Kennedy Awards and his answers appeared quite negative. Almost like he was unaware and uninformed of U2's plans for the coming year.
Get the impression that Larry has decided he's had enough, Bono and Edge are desperate to continue at all costs and Adam is very torn and conflicted.
Can't help feeling a bit disappointed.
I'm sure they realize their opportunities for the cash grab are running out. Better get it while they can.
Graffiti augmenting a wheat-glue poster advertising their new album on the wall of a magazine shop at Prince and Sullivan in Soho sums up the calculus of U2 in the 21st Century rather perfectly:
Songs of Surrender
...to the Status Quo
Well said.
They’re camaraderie and longevity has been part of their magic.
The end must be around the corner. This, from a life long fan.
Incidentally....all the songs they've pre released from Songs Of Surender, so far, all sound very bass and drums light.
Larry has a very distinctive style and sound and I can't hear that on these new arrangements? I appreciate that this is a strpped back, almost acoustic interpretation of the songs but it sounds if Larry and Adam have had very little input.
I've heard Edge comment on this new album and I've heard Bono comment too, but I haven't heard anything from Adam and Larry.
As a musician, Edge is more than capable of playing the bass parts and the minimal drum parts for this album in the recording studio. Just wondering if Adam and Larry have had any input at all?
Could this be another vanity project from Bono and Edge, to tie in with the autobiography?
Or am I just being unreasonably cynical?
To be perfectly fair - it's a bit different to postpone their own tour (and in the case of Glasto, play it in 2011, which they did) than to break contract for something like this. It's also very different when it's your lead singer who is out as opposed to the drummer. And I say this as a ride-or-die U2 fan of 42 years who has seen them play 50+ times. This also isn't the first time U2 has played with a replacement (ZooTV Tour 11/26/1993) when Adam missed a gig because he went on a bender in Sydney. His bass tech, Stuart Morgan played in his place.
LM Jr is a criminally underrated drummer.
Underrated by who?
Not even close.
He inspired me to become a drummer!
Not the most technical, not the most virtuoso, but his sense of tempo is simply Insane! He keeps on tempo better than a nuclear watch!!
@@ROBERTINI77that's Steve Lillywhite's influence ...got him on the click for the 3rd record..as a drummer myself it's the best thing I learned to do over 30 years ago..groove with a click
To be fair, this gig has apparently been in the works a very long time. With a contract, designed sets & production, people sub-contracted & everything. The band didn’t plan on doing it without Larry. And I know he’s given his blessing to the other three members to proceed & honor their contract-I just wish if they must preform without any member of the four, that they’d do it under another name. U2 are unique in rock for their longevity & NEVER having any lineup changes for 43 yrs.
It’s a shame, because I love the album Achtung Baby so much. And I still love U2. Legends. GET WELL SOON, LARRY.
Technically Adam Clayton's bass tech filled in for 1 show during the Zoo tour, but yeah I do agree with you
"do it under another name"
U 1.75
There was one in Sidney 1993 without Adam but for the 40 shows that I saw so far I can tell Larry was always behind the drumkit
Well, since he's not actually leaving the band...he may well come out and sing on occasion. My fandom goes back to when Kev started playing cassette tapes of Boy and October in his Isuzu Trooper when we were in high school. Also saw what I believe was the initial live performance of The Dalton Brothers in 1987 in Indianapolis.
@@marcalvarez4890 Well given the name is U2, if you remove a quarter of it, it would be U1.5 - just sayin, maths and all that
U2 is one of those bands where every member brings a unique flavor to the band. Larry Mullen Jr's drums are iconic. I can hear the drums right now in Sunday, Bloody Sunday without listening to it. It's amazing drumming. So iconic.
I agree with you on this, Rick. Not having Larry in the band when Larry is fully capable is a misstep. Give him the time off to rest and recoup and then hit it. Don't replace.
I’ve never been a huge U2 fan, but Sunday, Bloody Sunday is amazing.
And thank you for putting that in my head as well - also without listening (and not only the drums ;) )
They made two good/satisfactory records in the start and bored us for the next thirty years. That is not iconic. Iconic is influential, well considered , evolving over time but not contrived snooze rock coupled with political tokenism. Z
@@offiskU2 and Pearl Jam are similar, great early records and nothing but crap for the last 30 years.
The sound of the the drums on that album was as much Steve Lilywhite as it was Larry Mullen, Jr. listen to anything Lilywhite produced during that period and the drums have that same raw edge. A good example is Simple Minds Sparkle In The Rain album.
Larry is a one of a kind drummer who ads something totally unique to the band. Has to be there.
He is shite. Tosser.
He wrote amazing parts, but live they are far from difficult to replicate
Absolutely correct. I certainly wouldn't go if Larry wasn't there. Surprised they are doing this.. Bono is loaded so he doesn't need the money that badly.
If Keith Moon didn’t have to be there, I doubt Larry does.
@@CandiceJoergan Its bot about the money its about wanting to keep playing live. If a member is sick or passes , then trying a replacement is fair
eg Motley replaced Mick Mars with John 5 due to Micks health, Quuen replaced Freddy, ACDC replaced BonScott . Why is rick complaining if Larry is sick ?
The Drum intro to "bullet the blue sky" is as iconic as John Bonham's intro to "when the levee breaks". Just as Led Zeppelin couldn't go on without Bonzo, I don't see how U2 can go on without LMJr.
I respectfully disagree with you on your statement about the drum into for "Bullet the Blue Sky" being as iconic as the one in "When the Levee Breaks". That's just not the reality.
@@brivington2011 I respect your assessment. What I meant was that both are two bars of unaccompanied drums that are instantly recognizable and unmistakeable.
I agree with Bruce, it’s not on the same tier as Levee, but Sunday Bloody Sunday absolutely is!
@@IdeologieUK yeah, Sunday Bloody Sunday with it's military style of drumming is definitely the most signature U2 drum sound.
I completely agree with you there. It's off centre, dirty, punchy, confrontational even.... As a song intro, its def. as iconic & important as the best of them. Certainly hooked my ear in 1987...(the whole song is utterly tremendous)I'm a drummer, I would say Mullen was my main influence when i was 8/9 drumming his beats on my bed (before I'd a kit).
I was 9 when my father bought me my first drum kit, and Larry was the first drummer that fired up my imagination. Then came Ian Paice, Stewart Copeland...almost 20 years later, now I play jazz and experimental music; something that Larry probably wont like. But Larry was my gatekeeper to drumming and I still admire him a lot. Thank you Larry and I wish you all the best for your recovery. Also a big thank you from Italy to Rick for all your videos, which are super!
I was a U2 fan from the very beginning and was so excited to finally see them live during the Joshua Tree tour at the Fabulous Forum in L.A. I was only 21 and decided I didn’t want nosebleed seats so I spent quite a bit of money and bought tickets from a scalper (I worked a lot of overtime to do this). So, they played for ONE HOUR. One lousy hour. Part of this hour-long gig consisted of Bono berating anyone who bought their tickets from a scalper. He went so far as to call those people “losers and assholes”. I was so disappointed and pissed. Bono has gotten more and more arrogant over the years and I simply cannot stand him. Yes, I know all about his charity work, so don’t bother to tell me. Bear in mind, he wouldn’t be able to do his charity work without the money paid by hard-working people like myself. Bono can póg mo thóin.
@@japhyryder66 Well sorry to say that i know i will be harsh, but form my point of view that's kind of karma thats give you back from buying a ticket form a scalper. Which isnt a good thing and for me Bono was right. Sorry to hear that the concert was not the thing that you expcted but U2 are (and still) one of the most professional band in any genre of music, so...if they did thatm they could have some good reason (maybe Bono was without his voice, which happened frequently during that tour).
@@edoardomaggiolo9464 So you took time out of your day to tell me I deserved what I got? You really are a tool. Bono was in fine voice at that show, and I was a very young woman who loved this band and just wanted good seats for a change. I worked extremely hard to pay for those tickets. Your shitty comment will certainly affect your karma, pal. GFY.
@@japhyryder66 Well, honestly thats my opinion about scalping and people who use it. As i said my opinion could be not polite, but scalping is an issue, werether are the reasons that everyone could have to do so. And I think that Bono was right about that and you exaggerated in your resentement to him adn about that concert. Nothing personal about you, but I will not say to you that it was a good thing to do, from my point of view. As for the rest, well, I think i can use my time to respond to a comment that i persnally dont like. And as you can read, I'm not offending you...
When Phil Collins, at age 70, slowly walked out to sit on a stool and sing for Genesis as his son played drums, I realized what a toll a lifetime of drumming takes on the body. If LMJ needs some tweaks to play later in life, I hope he has the best surgeries and recoveries.
I hear what you are saying but Phil Collins abused his body with alcohol and generally took terrible care of himself leading to the embarrassment that was his farewell tour. Drumming was the least of his issues. I get the impression Mullen took pretty good care of himself. He always looked fit and fresh. I'm sure he will get back out there.
Phil Collins used more drum machines during his solo career than he played live. Give me a break about the wear and tear :)
I don't think it was the drumming that did that
Add the late, great Neil Peart to that mix. The effects of raw drumming on his joints (in addition to suffering and eventually sadly succumbing to brain cancer) definitely affected him in the mid-late 2010s. Drumming and touring, day in and day out can absolutely take its toll. RIP Neil!
Yes I'm sure drumming caused that, and it had nothing to do with the fact that he's 70. 🤡 🙄 🤦
This band moves in mysterious ways.
too many Egos...
Larry Mullen Jr. is the drummer that made me want to play drums. I have a hard time thinking of U2 without him. It just feels wrong.
Yes! It's like Led Zeppelin without John Bonham.
Same here. I started taking drum lessons at High School because of Larry Mullen.
It sure does. I dont understand this decision at all. Just wait for cripes sake.
I remember seeing U2 3D at an Imax theatre. The opening shot was Larry Mullen Jr.'s drum set from above - a really great visual. I did not realize he would not be playing in Vegas. Wasn't he the one who jumped into a cab at he end of the video for I Still Haven't Found What I 'm Looking For video????
If I can get a ticket to see them in Vegas I will, and I will bend over to accept the price of the ticket - no lube required. I saw them during the 360 tour - and that was one of the best concerts I have ever seen (Weird Al's Mandatory Fun and Roger Water's The Wall make up the Top 3).
He inspired me to be a drummer too!
I have been a big u2 fan since 1984, saw them for the first time in 1987 in Gothenburg, Sweden. I think Achtung Baby is their best album. Can't believe they're going to play without Larry Mullen Jr. absolutely sick. Can't they wait for him to recover?
Instämmer. Hälsningar från Finland.
I've been a huge U2 fan for the past 43 years. Since Larry gave his blessing, I'm OK with it. They don't have a tour booked, just the residency, so my hope is that Larry will heal from his surgery and be back with the band.
yeah I don't see the huge beef Rick has here. Larry ok'ed it so it's fine
I think this has been in the works long before Larry realised he couldn’t play!
I’ve already started looking up flight costs (from Australia) for around that time. I’ve seen them play without Adam in Sydney 1993. It was fine. The guitar tech was amazing!
It’ll be fine Rick, and if you are not into it, don’t go. Silly rant. 😂
Good point.
The Rattle And Hum record wasn’t a misstep in my opinion. It was a solid album and the movie is incredible.
"Pop" was the misstep record. A send up of tacky consumerism involving a lemon shaped........sphere??
Hmm!
Totally agree. "Heartland" is so damn atmospheric, easily among my top 10 U2 songs
Thank you, I directed the film.
Agreed. I still have the DVD.
The 9 studio tracks on Rattle & Hum range from epic to classic to very good. If they had included just those 9 studio tracks, it would have been a classic (easy top 5) U2 album.
I respectfully disagree. They are crushing it it Vegas. Larry recovering from surgery couldn't withstand night after night shows, now they extended the residency. Bram is an amazing drummer, he fits perfectly. As Bono says, " I'm still tryin to figure out who this guy is." You should just relax and enjoy the show. I am 55 and been with them from the beginning, 15 shows and will go again. There is no replacing Larry, listen to what he says each night during the show. Peace
A group (or artist) knowing when to leave the stage at their peak is an elusive skill. Crossing the line between relevancy to being a musical curiosity is a thin one.
The Rolling Stones crossed this line a long time ago, converting themselves to a Theme park attraction.😒
Up through their last tour (pre-Covid), U2 was still focused on trying to be relevant, whether or not they were perceived as such. They played new songs from their most recent albums, and filled in the rest with many songs from Achtung Baby, actually. With the exception one-off of their Joshua Tree tour, this is the first time that they're not touring in support of a new release. So in my book, they haven't yet crossed the line into a tribute band of their younger selves (which is what 99% of other bands from their era have become).
@@danielpalmer6266 eh I don't know, if they called it quits I'd have been too young to ever see them play live
@@danielpalmer6266 You nailed it. Years ago, I thought I'd better go see the 'Stones' at least once before they retired. That was 1976.
It's tough to leave at a peak when people will still pay money to watch them perform. No one wants to leave money on the table.
Larry is my favorite U2 member. I can't imagine myself watching a show without him on the stage.
Me too.
Same. Larry's one of the two or three drummers that made me pick up the sticks in the first place back in the 1990s.
I walked into a Tower records when October came out. I was transfixed and it didn't leave my turntable for 4 months. Been a big U2 fan ever since. Well, until the 90s. But they were the real deal. Saw them in the 80s in front of 150,000 at the US festival and then in front of 80,000 people.
Excellent album
I saw October at Cardi's in Houston. The opening act was a wet tshirt contest
It’s not U2 without Larry Mullen Jr. He is my favorite member of the band.
“Rattle and Hum” is a fantastic album. Captured a moment with the live stuff and the new songs were epic. “Heartland”, “All I Want Is You”, “Angel of Harlem”, “Desire”, “When Love Came to Town”, “Van Dieman’s Land”. That’s more great songs than some bands have in a career.
It is a stellar album; "Heartland" is an underrated masterpiece. I think that because it came after the classic "The Joshua Tree" that it didn't meet people's unrealistic expectations. Though U2 is one of the rare bands that has knocked out 4 classic albums IMO ("War", "The Joshua Tree", "Achtung, Baby", and "All That You Can't Leave Behind").
@@PaulTincknell I think it was just because “the Joshua Tree” was so big. As soon as you achieve that sort of success, people start tearing you down immediately.
Sorry but Rattle and Hum can’t hold a candle to their first four albums. Someone described it as if they were kids on their first visit to the RnR HoF, grabbing at every bust that crossed their paths. The film just displays their unbelievably inflated egos.
I always got the feeling that the scorn people felt for this album had to do with Bono's image at the time. I was in middle school when the movie came out, and I fully went for it, loved the album, had the other songs from the movie that did not make the album on tape, and played that amazing version of Sunday Bloody Sunday all the time. I watched the movie for the first time in a decade during the pandemic, and I was like "oh, yeah, he is kinda insufferable in this" I still love the album, tho
@@marpsr I grew up with them - same age - and "Rattle & Hum" didn't achieve the heights of their first four; it was never meant to. It was a grab bag of leftovers, experiments, and explorations of rock that influenced them that allowed them to leave that phase behind and create "Achtung, Baby". But there is a lot of great material on it, and the live stuff rips. Give it a fair listen and a U2 fan shall be rewarded!
Their first 5 albums are really my jam - special mention to the masterpiece of The Unforgettable Fire.
After that they disappeared up their own selves.
Totally agree with you, The Unforgettable Fire is my favorite album by them as well, the title track and video still gets me emotional every time, just saying, appreciate your comment ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾💯✌🏾
I must be the only person who considers Zooropa to be their masterpiece.😄
@@robertwiles8106 welllll....ummmm.....ok.....I mean it was good, had some different and brave sounds. Yeah it was good! 😊🙃😎
Omg unforgettable fire!!! 😍 Start to finish I swear I have left this plant! Probably my absolute favorite albums of all time ever!!! Every song!!! My emotions are all over the place right now just remembering the first time I put that record on! I sat down on my bed looking at the cover and reading all the info!!! Became hypnotized by all the sounds, extra sounds even though faintly coming through, I could hear them. Ahhh. I have to go buy this now! 😩 It had gotten stolen long ago with so many other music I had collected. That's ok though! Love it!!!
As Pat Metheny said in your interview, it doesn’t matter who the headliner is on the marquee, it’s the drummer. Larry Mullen is the tightest drummer I’ve ever heard. When U2 played Live Aid, he and Adam Clayton kept a vamp going in rock solid time for something like ten minutes while Bono surfed the crowd… it was amazing. I’m interested but skeptical to hear what they sound like with someone else behind the kit.
Not everyone has the grace to leave the stage on top like REM did.
Or Rush
Even REM carried on without Bill Berry for 13 years, but I get your point.
I think REM went on a bit too long..
On top would have been Green..
@@richardclark6858 That's a little harsh, but I won't argue with you. I've been a fan since Chronic Town. Saw them live twice right before Reckoning came out and right after. I am much more a fan of the older stuff.
Larry's work on Joshua Tree, in particular One Tree Hill, speaks for what a great drummer he is
I stumbled onto a Yamaha drum piece about Larry some 6 months back. They were visiting him at home etc. He was heavily hinting about being beat up physically and needing serious time off to heal- he also hinted and at possibly being done with touring live as well.. His choice in the end. It ain’t easy when you got that many miles in your rear view mirror. Let’s collect all the data I’d say.. all the best⚡️
Hardly seems fair to expect that a band can only perform live providing that all original members are on stage. Why should the illness or death of one member dictate the end of everyone else's passion and career? Ticket sales will reveal how people feel about it anyway. Hopefully Larry is able to heal up well and get behind the kit again soon. His drumming is unique and is an important part of the U2 sound!
I'd say lots of people would buy tickets without even knowing, then get there and be like what the fuck, who is that drumming? Saw people do that with RHCP in the dark days of Josh being their guitarist.
Yeah, if one person leaves the band, I don't think the rest are obligated to quit. I don't know what Larry's prognosis is but I think illness and injuries are a little different. We don't know when the residency was booked or when Larry became unable to perform. I do feel like this residency is different than if they were playing a set at Coachella. It is the celebration of the band's career and, unless Larry is questionable to return, I think postponing the residency would have been better, but there are a lot of things that might sway my opinion if more information comes out.
I must be one only feels since atomic bomb that music been slow slide .to bottom .for me this seems band trying inject life with cheque book .drum up hype sad think have buy peoples love back .all need to do be themselves rediscovey they best assets .not sell out there friend and yeah
True poor starving musicians can’t afford to postpone a gig to accommodate their drummer! Give me a break
@Into the Superunkown I felt the same not too long ago; Gang Of Four touring but the only original member left at this point was guitarist Andy Gill, so we didn't bother getting tickets.
Also, on 2002 had bought tickets for The Who live, bought them before Entwistle died. Still went to see them play and they were technically excellent, but lacking a little feeling overall.
I'm still scratching my head to why everyone is still blaming the band because an album they simply gave away for free had been ridiculed for so long because "Apple's tech people" made it hard to delete off the phones and yet the company has copped nothing, pathetic.
it's Bono they are blaming cause it's just what people do. Stones can do whatever they want but when it's U2, suddenly the drummer is the most important. This is bullshit Bono hate wrapped in 'concern for Larry' sheep's clothing.
I’ve been listening to U2 for about 36 years, and the reason I first gravitated towards that band was because of LMJ. Something about his drumming just pulled me in. U2 was the first band where I would put on a song while exclusively listening to the drum parts. To me, he is the main ingredient in the special sauce that is U2, and it’s lame they aren’t willing to wait for him to recover before they start doing shows again. Fans are happy to wait for LMJ, it’s the rest of the band or their management that seems to be pushing; don’t blame this on the fans, because true fans feel otherwise.
So agree with you! If they had waited, I would definitely have gone to the show. No way without Larry behind the kit.
I've been a fan of U2 since the first album, but it actually took me a few decades to realize the heart and soul of U2 music, the real magic of the band has always been that rhythm section. Adam Clayton & Larry Mullen Jr., no one has done it better.
It took me forever to realize that With or Without you is just a whole lot of build up for one amazing Larry moment.
It's been done better by so many bands though. U2's drummer and bassist wouldn't even crack a top 30 list of legitimate rhythm sections across rock. Even those guys would admit it.
@@ryukan250 They're the best U2 rhythm section, same way as Paul and Ringo were the best Beatles rhythm section.
For me, the Edge makes U2 as well, that's why I don't like the albums where he doesn't feature as much, or is just repeating things from the past, most of the albums since Pop. Bono was amazing until his voice went, don't think he's sounded good since the 90's. It isn't U2 without any of them, and without the voice Bono had, they will never be the same, but if they want to carry on, that's fine by me.
@Ruy Kan… you don’t know what you are talking about but I am waiting for your list of top 30 rhythm section that are better 😉
From what I understand Larry has given his blessing for the band to play with a stand in drummer.
It was actually a (potentially) brilliant move. We were at the Sphere on the first night and the technology was the show. Don't get me wrong, the music was amazing but the experience was like standing in a pair of virtual reality googles. This sets up a second residency or tour billed as Larry's return. Expect "Pop Mart - 2027" at a "Sphere" somewhere in Europe, on the 30th anniversary of that album. We'll be there.
We were out in Vegas in August 2022 and I asked our Lyft driver what that big sphere thing was when we drove past it. They were still finishing it up at that point, but he said it was a new entertainment arena. He also said that U2 was slated to be the first act with a residency in it when it opens in 2023, so they had to have that deal inked for a while even at that point. I'm guessing they were working on it way before Larry had to go into back surgery.
Exactly! Which part of this dont people understand, ie. Rick???
yes...exactly....rick doesn't know about contracts....just clicks
The Stones continued without Brian Jones, Mick Taylor, Bill Wyman, and now Charlie Watts…Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers continued without Ron Blair, Stan Lynch, Howie Epstein…Van Halen continued without DLR,…Journey and Santana continued without…pretty much everyone! The list goes on and on. Arguably, great stuff happened in each band as they evolved. Sometimes line-ups changed amicably, sometimes in anger, sometimes for ego and money, sometimes in illness/death, sometimes in addiction, sometimes in burnout, sometimes to save off-stage relationships - lots of reasons. Is Larry obligated to always want to do/play/live as his HS friends always want to, even in his 60’s? If Larry has chosen not to proceed and the other guys want to do it, and all are okay with that, why not live and let live without judgement? Music benefits from harmony more than dissonance. If Larry is harmonious with the guys, who are we to create dissonance? I hope it sparks new energy. Respect the individuals, expect nothing; and accept what’s offered and what’s to come - just might be better than ever!
Eh but didn't a lot of those people you mention die? I don't think Larry's dead. At least not yet
Keith Moon, The Who, hello.
No. A couple have died, but most mentioned are still alive.
Yep.
Amen.
Achtung Baby is their near perfect masterpiece. Saw the ZooTV tour at Yankee Stadium. The first time I heard 'One' live, I openly wept. The lyrics, the sunflowers, the buffalo falling off the cliff...speechless. I can't vision anyone else behind the drum kit other than Larry. But if tickets aren't in the Taylor Swift range, I'll be there.
AB is one of my top 10 albums off all time.
I'm sure they will be in Taylor Swift territory.
Yankee Stadium was awesome.
For me it was the image on screen of the little kid playing the drums, right at the start - I saw 90.000 people going absolutely crazy! Note that it was the first time U2 were playing in my country so everyone was in ecstacy (not the drug, although some may have been) ;)
For me it sits third behind The Unforgettable Fire and The Joshua Tree.
It seems as if nobody here gets it. There is only one Grand Opening, only 1 first show in a venue like the sphere. Nobody has seen anything like it. It was an honor for them.
I think the harsh reality may be that the average person going to see a show in Vegas doesn't know anyone in the band other than Bono and maybe The Edge. The band and management know this. The hardcore U2 fan will be pissed, but 80-90% of the concert going public can't name most members of a band or their albums, they know the hits and show up expecting to see Bono and whoever else is playing they really don't care about.
I can't help feeling that Achtung baby is their best album... one of the best albums that came out in those years at all. Not a single song an that album disappoints and I bet I will still listen to it when I'm old(er) lol.
The greatest album ever imo
Not a single great song on it. Literally all the songs on Zooropa are better.
Achtung Baby for me is one of the best records of all time and the one that influenced me the most. And it's not just the songs, it's the sonics too. To me, it always sounds like the Berlin of the early 90's resonating with the Berlin of the 20's and 30's. The Fly must have one of my favourite guitar solo's of all time. It's not a difficult solo in terms of notes, but the sound is sheer genius. I still try to capture that exact sound on my guitar to this day. No idea how they got that sound on the record.
Edge borrowed that riff & some of the solo turns out..
@@lauraallen55 look at the dude who sued them for the fly…same riff & you can hear his lead guitar part sounds like the fly solo 😂
@@lauraallen55 doesn’t make the allegation untrue. Taking on a billion dollar corporate behemoth like U2 is a tall task
Totally agree that wah flanged tone is so thick and nasty and utterly unique in guitar history.
@@lauraallen55 uh huh..hope you’re up to date on your COVID booster shots Bono & his buddy Kill Gates want you to get so bad because they care about you 😉
And then..there was the more than fantastic Bram van den Berg...what a great drummer..and in full respect to Larry.
I love Rick´s rants. It´s pure passion. By the way: when legends start to perform in Vegas, this is mostly the beginning of the end. Just my 2 percent.
A good indication they should have hung it up a few years back…
The Vagas point is actually on point! I Think the writing is on the wall but the band hasn't got the memo yet! Maybe a gig to far!
Neil, Geddy & Alex went out the right way. with a BANG,
'They-2' should-a, could-a done the same,
'Vegas' lol, Rush would never even have contemplated playing so low.
Zoo Station has one of the best lyrics in music imo. "Time is a train, makes the future the past. Leaves you standing in the station, your face pressed up against the glass". Ranks right up there with Billy Joel's "they're sharing a drink they call loneliness, but it's better than drinking alone".
Zoo Station is the most underrated song of all time. Personally my favorite
@@domd8290 same here. That song cranked up sounds unreal.
And in Zoo TV, the intro of Bono kick dancing on screen is iconic
Spot on Rick, I love Achtung Baby so much because of the drum sounds and percussion. It’s unlike anything they had done prior to that record.
I remember being in a Music store in 1983 and they played the video for New Years Day, I was transfixed, Been a U2 fan since. depending on the day, different albums are my favourite, but War, The Unforgettable Fire, Joshua Tree, are far and away my favourites. I can't imagine them playing without Larry Mullen Jr., much like I can't imagine Rush playing without Neil Peart. I don't fault them, just don't know if I would pay to see them.
Never thought I would see Rick reach the "old man yelling at clouds" stage, but here we are.
Rolling Stones would like a word with Rick.
Think he has a point
Very well said. I’ve been a massive U2 fan for so long that they were my favourite band when most people (at least in North America) had not yet heard of them. U2 without Larry Mullen Jr. isn’t U2.
Went to see U2 with friends, in Tampa Florida, on my Birthday in 1987. The moon was full and it was cold out. It was the best concert I have ever attended.
I of course would prefer they play with Larry but being a life long fan and having not seen them live since Dec 2019, I’m still very much looking forward to this show. Especially at this new venue which will probably be amazing, and Achtung Baby is my second fav album just behind The Joshua Tree. You definitely make good points but 3 out of 4 members (as long as one is Bono) will be sufficient for me. Zoo TV tour is still the best tour I’ve ever seen. I just pray that I can get tickets.
I feel like Bono and the Edge are what people focus on. I know many of you wont agree. Let's just be happy to see them play again after a 4 year hiatus. The real fans will be so psyched to see them no matter what they have to do to make it happen. Just my humble opinion.
100% correct. I hate this idea because I'm a bass player, but the average audience member doesn't know anyone outside Bono and The Edge, and only cares about hearing U2's hits. I think Rick is seeing this like everyone's a hardcore U2 fan. Besides, did they even say Larry's absence is permanent? I don't understand the outrage.
When Bono had his bike accident a handful of years ago, the band was slated to play a televised gig, and they had a number of star singers fill in for him. Didn't go too well. They came out & said at the time that they wouldn't do such a thing again. Well, here we are.
U2 is one of my favorite bands ever. I'm only 34, but discovering Achtung Baby and the ZOOTV Sydney performance pretty much changed my life around 15 years ago. I will always admire them, and I still consider No Line on the Horizon their last great successful attempt at something unique only they and their producers are capable of. A Vegas residency, to me, is in itself sad, but without Larry Mullen, it's an absolute waste. I truly love U2 and always will. But their desperation to say "relevant" has been their worst enemy for a while. No Line on the Horizon was an artistic triumph, but a commercial disappointment, and since then, they've seemed desperate to get their moment again, ignoring what people most expect: great, adventurous music. They will never be the trendiest band in the world, and that's just fine. It's a shame they seem to care so much about the spotlight they were so good at rejecting not so long ago. In any case, U2 will always be an amazing band, I just wish they realized it more often.
You’re spot on about No Line. Glad more people recognize that album as their last real attempt to do something unique.
@@ianf9253
I also agree. It’s a miracle it was so good, after the never ending process making it, abandoning so much recorded material, firing multiple producers, etc.
Somehow they need to convince themselves they are 20 again, with nothing to lose, stop trying to please everyone, and make something gritty, dangerous, or at least unexpected. I’ve been a fan since I saw them as an opening act 42 years ago, but Achtung Baby, IMHO, tops the list of their ballsiest and most genius moves ever. More of that, please.
I agree No line on the horizon it’s the best thing thing they have done in 25 years! But still not close to their best albums, or any album prior to 1993. It’s the only decent thing they’ve done in 25 years, and a decent album. I was a huge fan of U2 since the late 80’s. But the last 15 years I stopped caring about them. I have around 100 CD’s and 25 LP’s of I2, including albums, EP’s, singles and bootlegs. But I couldn’t care less about their last 3 or 4 albums. I would still attend one concert in one of their tours, but not everyone of them, like before. I don’t know why they’re doing this though, their last tour was a success, don’t know why they need a Las Vegas residency. But Achtung Baby it’s their best album, by far, so it’s a good choice. I just wish they retired 20 years ago.
Absolutely agree about No line I thought the same they really tried. And I agree also, they should stop trying to be relevant. It doesn't matter.
Acthung is my favourite album if they ever come to Argentina with that show I'd definitely go. Hopefully WITH LARRY
I totally agree with you, no line on the horizon was the last great album..I think it also had to do with the state of the industry at the time. My record deal fell through during that time period too.. hah. songs of innocence, experience and surrender albums all really did not grab me.
I’m a fan of your channel Rick, but I totally disagree with this one. Page and a plant played w/o Bonham or JpJ and I was so grateful to see them, Pimk Floyd played without Syd or Roger and again I was so grateful to see them. Larry is amazing and yes, it’s a bummer he’s not playing for sure, but if the other guys want to rock then they surely should.
I still say to this day. My favorite concert ever was U2 The Unforgettable Fire Tour May 1985 . Can't imagine them without Larry.
Boy, I really respected when John Paul, Robert, and Jimmy said, "We lost our drummer. We're done." A bustle in your hedgerow indeed. Peace out from Taipei
Mind you, it didn't stop Spinal Tap.
Bram first couple of nights had struggles with tempo or following the click. But he settled in and has done a very formidable job. I did not miss Larry and I’m sure Larry coached Bram to do the gig. I’mglad they did the residency in this incredible new venue. I’m sure they missed Larry but it was definitely full blown U2 up on that stage. The only absolutely irreplaceable guys in U2 are Bono and Edge.
I am with you , I have been in 3 of the shows in Vegas and I can say also I didn’t miss Larry .. Bram is an excellent drummer.
@@sylsalas Three times here too and I wish it had been many more. LM was there at the last show I went to and the crowd went wild. That would have been the second to last night of the series.
saw them front row at Soldier Field 6/28/97 on the Pop Mart Tour...changed my life. I can't imagine them without Larry behind the kit.
Front row in Foxboro, Mass. On my birthday. Changed my life direction as I have ben to so many shows since.
I was wondering who that was. I wish they had let him be on stage with them. Unfortunately they are committed to a certain image and aren't allowed to vary from it.
Not as upset as some are about this. It is almost unheard of for a band to have been together for over 40 years and still have all its original members. After all this time, if one member either had enough or physically can't do it anymore and the other members still want to play, I won't hold it against them to replace the member. Not every band will do the right thing like Zeppelin to call it quits after Bonham passed away.
or Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson putting things on hold in support and respect for Neil Peart.
Not every band can be Aerosmith and have all members survive drugs, accidents, and whateverthehelllifethrowsatyou.... ;-)
As a U2 fan since the first album (saw them for the first time in 1982) I subscribe every single word you say, Rick. And would add: Larry Mullen Jr. is the rock that’s been keeping U2 together for a long, long time. I didn’t ear anything about this residence without Larry and I’m shocked. Is it money? Naaaa! Something else really wrong is going on.
Not sure what the fuss is here.
1. They had a commitment to play, hard to change contracts like this.
2. LMJ couldn’t make it but gave his blessing for a replacement.
3. The band announced long in advance that LMJ couldn’t join and there would be a replacement drummer, so no surprises.
4. If you don’t want to see U2 without LMJ, then don’t buy a ticket.
5. In the end Bram did a great job, showing that the band selected their drummer wisely, probably with input from Larry.
Hopefully Larry recovers quickly and will be back for the next album/tour.
Honestly, how many bands haven’t had to temporarily replace a band member, especially for live gigs. And some bands permanently replace band members (Rolling Stones, AC/DC, even Queen is trying to continue without Freddie).
I whole heartedly agree. The iTunes thing was a disaster, when I saw the ad, my wife was like; "Achtung Baby?? Didn't they already release that album?" We had no idea what it was for until this video. Like you, I've been a fan since 1980 when "Boy" came out. It blew my mind, especially since as an 18 year old, the band members were within a year or two in age to myself. I saw them in 1988 at the old Boston Garden and again in the mid 90's at Gillette Stadium (Home of the NE Patriots). I get the whole Las Vegas residency thing, since many bands are doing it, but wait until Larry is well and can join, and let's not just do Achtung Baby shall we?
Really funny to see that we Dutch people and media are really proud that a Dutch drummer is going to play with U2. But from a U2 fan perspective I can fully understand your criticism.
I sort of thought to myself, how does U2 actually find a Dutch drummer, drummer of Dutch band “Krezip”? 🤔
As a Dutchie, I WAS someone who liked U2. Sorry to say it, but I lost interest in U2 quite a while ago…..
There are only two things I can't stand in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures; and the Dutch.
@@maaikeroeleveld2415 I'm really interested in story about this indeed. But first let him play and then we'll soon enough hear the story
Maybe Anton Corbijn has something to do with it :)
Oh that's cool. Long time U2 fan here--since 1981. I'll have to look up this Dutch guy. I'm sure he's great.
Achtung Baby was my first CD ever, that I bought with my own money, as a teenager. I had cassette tapes and LPs of U2, but the CD was new, and it was a huge deal. That album also features One, my favorite U2 song since the first time I listen to the entire album. That was the first song where I was like, wait a minute, this is incredible. So when I heard it was an Achtung Baby tour, and the new sphere with supposed incredible immersive sound, it sounds like something U2 would be into. Their live shows are always spectacles. But it does make you wonder, can some random Dutch guy I've never heard of, do what Larry Mullen Jr does so beautifully...
Yes it was my 1st CD, after LPs of the previous albums! Saw them on that tour.
Rick, Larry had surgery and is recuperating !! That's why they have a stand in playing with them !! Don't worry he's not leaving the band just recuperating!!
my favorite story about Larry was Eno talking about how one time Larry said that a click track was changed by a few BPM- he just ignored him because neither he nor anyone else in the studio could perceive it. But it turned out that Larry was right- his sense of time was so acute he could hear the change in feel just from those couple of BPM difference
I don't necessarily agree that LMJr's time is like a metronome, but bands like U2 don't need click tracks!!
Yeah just the fact he could sense that the tempo of the click and the recording was off was pretty impressive
For what it’s worth for the two people to read this, I’m a life long fan of the band’s. Seen them 17 times. Even in Times Square when Bono couldn’t join. If Larry gave his blessing, then so be it. I hope to see the Vegas show. The sphere just screams U2!
Wake up!
The bass player (Clayton) hasn't evolved one minor scale in decades beyond the "Thump-de-thump" 4/4 beat. Rhythm section speaking, they're boring as hell. - But if they float your boat, go get 'em boy.
Kinda the only opinions that count.
@@JamminClemmons wake up? You enjoy what you enjoy, and I’ll enjoy what I enjoy. No harm being caused?
@@touringbanddon’t let the trolls upset you! 🤫
@@JamminClemmons I agree. All of that focus on serving the song and playing the right notes when they could be off seeing how many notes they can fit into a bar and exploring polyrhythms.
Adam Clayton is not my favourite bassist in the world, but when that band hits the stage it is tight.
I've seen U2 many times- amazing live band- and I wouldn't be as excited to see them without Larry. But if he needs to take a break and the others want to do it without him, I don't see why it's a problem.
I look at it like Bill Berry leaving REM. If he doesn't want to do it anymore but has no problem with the band performing without him, who am I to disagree with him? My understanding is Larry is pretty physically beat up at this point. Drummers have to take way more physical abuse than anyone else in the band, and Mullen has infamously had back problems that almost made it impossible for him to sit and play for hours. If I were too physically or mentally unable to tour, and I know it was depriving my longtime bandmates and friends the ability to do something they love, I would have no issues with them going on without me.
It's like going to see Aerosmith without Steven Tyler, Pink Floyd without Dave Gilmour or Steely Dan without Donald Fagan. It will NOT be U2. If you're content without seeing any of those bands without it being those members, then more power to you. I would not go and see U2 without ANY of those 4 members. Because it's not U2. You can argue semantics all you want, but it's not changing anything.
@@valuedhumanoid6574 Hmmm... that would be like saying Ozzy wasn't the same without Randy Rhodes... while things were different with other guitarists, Ozzy was far from done.
Well, Pearl Jam had different drummers, so I can see that it could be feasible. Yet, Larry is the founder.
agreed
After reading several very hysterical comments I will give my opinion:
U2 has maintained its formation since 1976, I think it should be the maximum case of longevity for a band. They only acted without a member on 2 occasions, Adam Clayton on the ZooTv tour and Bono when he had an accident (U2+1).
U2 must have a contract to fulfill and Larry has a health problem... what is the problem that the group acts with the consent of Mullen????
Of course, if it were not so, it would be very bad, but there is no indication that this is the case.
Furthermore, his absence is not definitive. And if it were, I want Larry to keep collaborating on future projects. We fans know that he is the origin of U2.
Greetings from a U2 fan from Argentina.
I had the same reaction, Rick! Can’t imagine them performing without Larry, let alone performing a monumental record like Achtung Baby. Doesn’t make sense
I loved so much when a free u2's album appeared in my iTunes. It turned to be my favorite album from them... weeks later I went to the store to buy it physical.
Same!
Wow. It’s great to hear a positive story about that situation. All I ever hear is complaining.
@@jkm9332 Glad to know someone that likes the album!
@@ericMT Yes, I admit it was a little weird that the devices didn't ask for permission but it was just as simple as deleting one album if you were not into it. Anyway, I loved that album so much and it was a beautiful surprise to turn on you iTunes and see a whole u2's album in your account.
@@rodruvalcabaOH, I love that album.
1. Achtung Baby
2. ATYCLB
3. SOI
Yes! Thank you, Rick. It takes a real U2 fan to critique U2 properly. Also, how does playing in Vegas reach out to their global fan base? Seems like a very different motivation to me.
I totally agree with you on the motivations! Can you imagine how taxing the actual travel aspect of being on tour is at their age? Having a residency is cushy! It's the reason cruise ships are popular, right? All the amusements and only unpack once. I mean if the guys want to have their families with them they can pull a Celine Dion and live a nice, safe "real" life off the Strip, private schools, churches, it's all there. Not to mention SO many beautiful places within a 5 hour road trip. And of course if they feel like partying the cliche Vegas is there if they tip generously the city will treat them very well. Best of both worlds I would imagine while they rake in the $$$. I feel bad for the replacement, after all Journey's close but still not quite right. I can't wait to hear what Rick has to say after seeing them!
Well, I've been a "real U2 fan" since the 80s, and IMO Rick is blowing this out of proportion. If he had really kept up with the band, he'd know about Larry's constant back problems. He's not quitting the band or "being replaced", he's just not doing these residency shows for his current health issues. Say what you want about Vegas, but a series of residency shows allows them to do some really over the top stuff in terms of stage effects and stuff. I'm sure at their age, the idea of doing another world tour, especially without their friend and bandmate was something they thought wasn't feasible. So the next best thing would be staying in one spot and letting the fans come to them to see a great live show.
I originally thought doing the Vegas shows without Larry was a terrible idea. Since then I've seen some of the video footage from those shows and it looked and sounded amazing. This is something that took a few years to prepare for, so I can see why they couldn't postpone. Bran was a very capable replacement drummer for these shows. The fans that attended the Vegas shows looked like they enjoyed and had a good time. I had my doubts, but I was very impressed with how things turned out. Having Larry in the audience the 2nd last show and saluting him was a nice touch. Rick, keep posting these great videos.
Achtung Baby is my fav U2 album. It was just so radical & so different to what they had done before, yet they still managed to sound like U2. Let's hope this doesn't mean Larry is retiring on health grounds
I second your comment. I'm also worried about Larry's health.
I was so sick of hearing The Joshua Tree like everyone else in the late ‘80s. I was happily surprised when Achtung Baby came out.
I get the annoyance but c'mon, no band can go on forever. They're in their 60's, likely very aware of their own limitations as ageing human beings. Who knows how many shows/tours they have left. Also, the venue in Vegas looks incredible and they'll be the first act to play inside it
Nope, not missing the point. Player injured so substitute comes on, does a great job. Player back well again and gets back on the pitch, substitute having done a great job.
This didn’t age well, because a) the show turned out great, b) it’s commonly understood now that the contract predates Larry’s injury and c) the ‘nobody’ is doing fine.
"What are you thinking?" could define the last 20 years of U2. I say this as a massive fan in 90s/00s.
Larry's been dealing with serious back issues for many years. He's basically unable to drum anymore. It sucks but as you no doubt know, drumming is hard on the body. So yeah, it sucks that he won't be able to play the residency, but it's not like they're intentionally pushing him out. As far as the residency goes, I think it's awesome. I'm excited to see it. Touring is super hard, and they've toured at the highest level for over 30 years. Just let them do the residency and have fun.
Regret never seeing them, but can’t imagine traveling expense and show expense to see this show? Their whole catalog is so deep with HITS! Great band , great music.
LM Jr. (…the rhythm section of that band) is the heart and soul.
Rick is an encyclopedia, exceptionally gifted, hard working and multi talented. Whether hes' talking about U2 or Bach his take is always amazingly refreshing and enlightening.
It is strange. Can’t believe they are playing without him! At the same time if Larry is good with it, I suppose it’s okay. Will have to see how it goes over.
I am really looking forward for that concert. I have been a fan since I remember, actually I was in that concert in Honolulu in 2006, there was a marathon the next day and I had to sleep on the beach because I couldn’t find a hotel. Nice memories.
This gig that U2 are playing is a promotion for the venue. "The Sphere" is a $1.8 billion entertainment facility scheduled to open at the end of September, and they have the biggest band in the world lined up to draw the people in. It has been in the works for a long time. I was in Vegas in June 2022 and it was known then. The fact that Larry needs surgery is an unfortunate damper on the event, but the show must go on. Hopefully this kicks off a world tour, to go with the new rekindled album.
How can u tour album and not talking that lame covers effort.bono says songs surrender the third boring triolgy its not lord the rings bono ego got better of him .to say there got this amazing new rock n roll album but we not gong but it out because to awsome .then drummer says he not on same hym book seems writing on wall sad cash grab.
Right. It's a venue promotion. And the venue will open regardless of Larry's condition. If U2 is gonna play that opening, U2 plays it with or without him. One reading of this is that U2 would rather open this venue than have all 4 members play together. That leads to questioning why it is more important to play the new venue than it is to keep the foursome whole. Which also leads to a ton of speculation about Larry's future with the band and the band's future, possibly, without Larry. Can U2 still be the world's biggest band without Larry? I don't know. I know I will go. It will be the 10th or 11th time seeing them since the first, which was Auchtung Baby tour. And it won't be the same. I can already imagine myself leaving, saying it was an amazing U2 show but it was a bummer Larry wasn't part of it. Guess we will see.
@@christopherestep5391 With or without him, with or without him, woo hoo
@@thereaction18 Haha I'm glad my not so subtle pun was heard!
That's some very important context. Thank you.
Bono sang it years ago and it is true...especially for U2.
"You glorify the past when the future dries up."