Conservatorship will not apply to people with depression, bipolar, or anything really other than schizophrenia. Families who care about their children, aunts, uncles, parents with schizophrenia have been asking for something like this for decades.
@@12345CONWAYI want to say if you can be a good family member and offer him help a safe place to withdraw from the meth because he needs to sleep and get his brain balanced back to normal for him
@johnchristensen9826 he's off now for 4 days but with or without drugs he sees and hears things. He can't live with anyone in the family because he screams, gets violent, steals ( if he's on drugs) , accuses people of stealing his ssi. We do what we can by finding him places to live ( until he gets kicked out) . He says meth calms his voices and honestly I believe it but it makes him unbearable to be around. I've convinced him to go to a psychiatric doctor this coming Saturday and hopefully get him a shot of medication
@@12345CONWAYyou know it isn’t right to help him find someone else’s place to live knowing full well he is a danger to others and himself, this has happened to our family twice and we lost our place to live because of what they did at our house. If you think patient dumping wrong this is basically the same thing. I’m not mad but what has needed to happen is to appeal to the courts and law enforcement
What is not being discussed here is the fact that someone taking medicine for mental illness needs a stable living situation in order for the recovery to set in and it cannot be achieved by medicine alone. Most of the people living on the streets would better be helped by proper nutrition, access to clean water and restrooms to start the process. The State had a 1600 acre facility built in the 1800s in Eldridge California to handle this type of recovery. It was sold to real estate developers while under this Governors watch. The first step to solving this issue is to recognize that the World has always had people that have problems in society including poverty and housing needs to be available to accommodate them. With no low and no income housing the problem will never be fixed.
I agree with this, I agree with the ACLU… however I think care court may still be a move in the right direction and here’s why: Americans are politically resistant to providing free health care with their tax dollars. To anyone. You get called a communist. A well funded Public Health Service would require an entirely new institution voters largely don’t want to pay for. The Care Court idea is basically “sneak it in, attached to the court system” because that institution already exists and it is already being used as the only government apparatuses for dealing with the mental health and homelessness crises… in inhumane way that isn’t working. Care court is a compromise, let’s make it less inhumane because otherwise we’ll all get called socialists and any new institutions will be dismantled politically.
I don’t know if that’s the case. People make the mistake of thinking that homelessness can be solved by a few simple solutions when that’s not the case. If we were to subscribe to your notion, why didn’t projects room key and home key solve homelessness? While I think both projects were vital, homelessness didn’t improve all that much as we can see today. What largely resulted was many recipients of the program decided to leave and go back on the streets. The solutions often posited do increase the likelihood of homelessness reducing, but it’s largely marginal. The issue is largely two fold: 1. The immense unaffordability of housing in CA (as it can deter many from pursuing housing) and 2. The context in which homeless people grew up and currently live (i.e lack of/strained familial relationships, lack of education, preexisting mental conditions, and drug use). I don’t think there is a clear cut solution, but I think this is absolutely a step in the right direction
Maybe California should send a bill to other states when they treat and help people who are homeless who are out of state. Other states have failed to help their own people who then migrate their way to California.
That’s the thinking that got California in trouble. If we tax or send the bill to someone else everything will be fine. We keep throwing money at the problem with no results. We might hurt someone’s feelings by putting them in jail or a correction facility to help them get off drugs and treat them
I live in Los Angeles and this is true. If you are unhoused in Detroit, you can freeze to death. In Arizona the summers will bake you. SoCal in particular is nice weather, outside, year round. If you have to be homeless this is the place to more easily survive on the streets. Lots of tourists and wealthier inhabitants outside to scavenge wasted food and cigarettes from too, panhandle. I talk to unhoused people here often. Most are not from California. They got on buses trying to find a more tolerable place to survive on the streets.
Listen, I am a retired psychiatric registered nurse clinician. I worked in a state hospital for ten years. Let me tell you, if you think the solution that will help the homeless mentally ill is to OFFER psychiatric care to ALL people with serious psychiatric illness, it won't work. The ones on the street, the sickest ones, are STILL not going to want to take the medicine that will allow them to be free of the psychotic thinking that is a barrier to them taking proper care of their own selves. Just as you don't let babies run into the street, you don't let the helpless be ruled by their psychotic thinking, to their own serious detriment. It won't be a perfect solution, but it is humane and better than ignoring these helpless people. It will only identify the people whose psychiatric illness makes them a danger to themselves or others and/or which makes it impossible for them to care for themselves or accept help to do so.
That woman is so out of touch. This situation has gone on LONG ENOUGH. The civil court system is the tough love we need to get mental health to the homeless. I am sick of the problem. Accountability has become a joke within all aspects of our society now. There has to be accountability to have any order or to get real, necessary mental health to the people who need it the most. If a person is on the streets with a serious mental health issue they have no mental bandwidth to know they even have a problem so of course they think they don't need/want help. But if they GET it, then they will be able to get off the streets. I don't agree with much that the governor has done for California. But this I do. No one else has come up with a better idea. All the naysayers do is WHINE AND COMPLAIN. We have run out of time for that crap. Action needs to be taken NOW.
Except there is now nothing stopping an abusive family member from complaining to a mental health worker when A) the disabled person living with them becomes inconvenient or try’s to fight back (I can see this being used as a legitimate threat) or B) when the disabled person decides they can no longer take the abuse the family member can claim they’ve gone “psychotic” and then get these courts involved with little pushback from the person these courts are supposedly trying to help. So no now we are truly second class citizens. Where the hell is the ADA?
I worked with the homeless and drug addicted and what always happens is the people with serious mental health illness forget, loose or simply end up incapable due to street life to take meds that help them. After all you see and feel, what they need simultaneously is a home and a buddy, no matter how challenging they are. I think it may be with a try..but for God's sake house them, the streets are dark.. all day.
Are you opposed to permanent stay for the most sever of case. Redesigned institutionalization like all inclusive private communities with a balance of Holistic and Pharma care, on site services. Do you think we can do better for everyone, since peace of mind is what family friends and the general public need too?
Bravo, Governor Newsom! The mentally ill victims need support. I'm the mother of a daughter with a mental disorder, and she suffers from previous homelessness. I understand the dilemma of protecting the civil rights of the person, yet also protecting them from their illness. It's a painful situation for both the victim and their family.
That's not what this is. You're applauding the person destroying California and that just took the rights away from each citizen in California. Go read the real information under what this act is really about and it goes for every citizen with or WITHOUT a mental illness and anyone including government officials can mandate you to do this and there's nothing you can do about it
Do listen to Newson. He is a crook. He will not keep his words. Newson has run California into the toilet. Do you really think he will use the money on homeless and veterans??? This is a trick. Do be a fool.
Since much of the United States took Government and Civics courses out of education, many people don't understand or they forget the basic tenants of "freedom". People's freedoms end when their actions interfere with the rights and freedoms of a neighbor. It seems we are are left with the recurring question: Where do my rights end and yours begin? As stated in a quote by Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. (and validated during numerous Supreme Court cases) "The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." You are free to swing your arms around and say whatever you want. But those rights end when you interfere with someone else's rights and liberties. I live in Los Angeles and have a basic right to safety. People have a basic right to not have bottles thrown at them, have their children step on needles, have their walking impeded or to walk through the the feces of others. California's new CARE Court underscores the basic foundations of liberties and freedoms.
I am glad to see someone finally willing to at least try to manage this problem. Get some of the people off the darn streets. It's awful seeing what is happening to California-LA has always had that weird dichotomy between the rich and the poor. But it's not something that should be ignored and it's good to see someone stand up and do something. Good for him. 💙Gavin Newsom President 2028💙
It won’t significantly reduce the number of people on the streets. It might only help a few people. It’s some thing, it’s just not enough. And the people who think it’s cruel to put someone under a conservatorship or forcibly, take them off the streets to get them evaluated, or that they need to be able to make their own decisions may have good hearts but are ignoring the elephant in the room. These people can’t make their own decisions, which is why they live on the streets.
People end up on the streets for many reasons. Loss of a job and no family support will eventually make you homeless, and so will being kicked out of where you live by a spouse or by family. We're forgetting that homelessness is primarily due to POVERTY, not mental illness. The mental illness may develop later as a result of hard times (trauma) and lack of proper nutrition, but it's not the cause of homelessness. This is just another opportunity for big pharma to make a few more billion and I'm wondering how much of that Gavin is getting or what he's getting from big Pharma. Time will tell.
Newson and Biden allowed open border for drugs to flood into the US and now they complaints about homelessness and crimes. They allowed criminals to take control of many cities in California.
60 minutes should also include statistics of where the homeless are from. Are they really from California? Are they from other states? Regardless, of the breakdown... it makes a difference where the homeless are coming from to determine how much more resources are needed.
Conservatives want us to believe this is California’s problem. The reality is that this is a national problem and our healthcare’s continuing failure to care for its citizens to the extent that the problem could bring the US to its knees. The US has to enact comprehensive nationalized healthcare (mental, dental, vision, addiction, disability, and general healthcare for all). This includes locked residential mental health facilities for those suffer from mental health issues so intense that they are unable to care for themselves. We have to do better by our for our citizenry. Currently, we are a heartless country.
No one wants to face the uncomfortable reality that so many of the people out on the streets are literally unable to take care of themselves and have to be forced to get help.
I'm blessed. I've epilepsy and limited use of my right limbs. I've a roof over my head in living with family. It watching this it bother me Governor Newsom said, "I'm the Governor not Mayor" as if it was Karen Bass' fault for the homeless problem in California. 😢😢
It's all a set up all planned they want people drugged to increase homelessness in the future, all they have to do is outlaw homelessness, then supply section 8 vouchers while keeping track of them when they break laws like drugs etc send them back in prison with bail, but something more nefarious going on here
The moderator was very negative. She doesn't see what it's like for people to live in Los Angeles. Just look at the crime and crazy people doing obscene things in front of our children. It's getting worse every year and the police won't come in a timely fashion. We are victims in our homes. It is a crisis. Just getting the mentally I'll people off the street will help them and us here.
Newson allowed criminals, drug dealers and homeless people to take over many cities in California. Newson is running California into the toilet. Wake up!!! The middle class is being punished. Newson is robbing the middle class and give the money to the criminals and crooks.
Until U end up living for a few days or a few years homeless. You'll never understand how ending homeness actually happens. So many ways health, Bad luck, divorce, job lost, transportation problematic reasons. Have a heart ♥ It happens, it's frustrating, its freaking scary
*CARE Court is exactly what is needed!* The drawback to conservatorships are the outdated laws that are on the books that make it VERY difficult to force care even with CARE Court in place. Anosognosia is a condition that some schizophrenic and bipolar people have, the brain tricks them into thinking they are perfectly normal and they don't need treatment even though they are extremely psychotic. I lit up like a firecracker while listening to Eve Garrow from the ACLU. Extreme psychosis means the person can't choose which meds to take, certain medicinal cocktails work, others don't. A false dichotomy? Try again! For the sickest population it does mean without treatment they often do eventually die. They live for years out of touch with reality in the cold and rain, hungry, dirty, self medicating often ending up in jail only to be released again. She is living in kumbaya la la land! JFK did pass a bill for community mental healthcare in 1963, it wasn't funded and meanwhile institutions were shuttered. Sure, more services would be very helpful for the people well enough to seek it. For others, they NEED forced treatment. My son was one such case. He was a paranoid schizophrenic chronically homeless man that was under a conservatorship, once. It worked!! He was stabilized and it was shocking to see the major difference in him. After 1 year the court released him because he did SO well, yeah, mental illness doesn't disappear like that, so stupid! He slipped away and we couldn't stop it legally. This last May my middle aged son was found unresponsive in a parking garage likely from a Fentanyl laced joint. He was resuscitated and kept alive for 11 days since he was an organ donor. He needed help and the system failed him. *HELL YES to the CARE Court system!* I hope it saves the lives of other parent's kids, it's too late for mine.
I'm terribly sorry to hear this of your son. My sincere condolences. I'm a middle aged man who suffered from mental illness. I hope it doesn't get to this point for me. I'm currently in treatment and it helps. This program seems impressive. Something is better than nothing. Like Governor Newsom said, if it doesn't work, we learn from it and try something else. But we need to try. Good points about those who are well enough to seek it. What many dont understand, is that in severe mental illness, often the person isn't stable enough to make the decisions needed to actually get better. And perhaps a system in place to sort of force or impose treatment, isn't such a terrible idea. Have a great day.
@@liljohn3152, thank you, I appreciate that. I can tell you are light years ahead, my son was so psychotic that he didn't know who he was any longer. His brain eventually erased us altogether, he was very sick. I agree, this program will give people a chance at stabilizing, it's the missing piece in a really broken system. A lot of people don't understand that in some cases mentally ill people have anosognosia, the inability to see themselves as they actually are. They think they are just fine, they aren't, their brain has tricked them. I have hope that lives will be saved. I wish you all the best it sounds like you are self aware and willing, that's crucial.
There are people that have just mental illness, but the problem you see on the streets in San Fransisco and a few other of California's larger cities is mental illness induced by drugs so I'm really curious how this is actually going to be classified. Not including brain damage from drug use will be pretty useless on a larger scale picture if there goal is to clean up the street and not secretly pad their wallets. And many addicts rather be on the street than sober so most of these cases will be met with folks that do not want to participate. And believe me, you don't want to stick a hundred meth and heroin addicts in a large apartment complex together. They will tear that complex down and damage it to the point of no return in a matter of months. I like that there is some call to action on this problem, but I question how practical and thought out it is. First, at one point are they going to admit that they lost the decriminalizing drug war? and Second, unfortunately many of these people don't need an apartment, many sadly do get to a point of no return and do need a long term care facility. While you do want to have hope for people, you have to look at the statistics and ask yourself what is the long-term solution for people who cannot get better. A lot of these people are straight up brain damaged for life, I hate to say it and they can't be trusted to make proper decisions for themselves. I've lost two close people to drugs, and there was nothing in this world that would have turned them around.
Spot on Governor Newsom. Finally, a politician willing to step up and propose a solution that makes a lot of sense. I have a lot of hope for care court. It is going back to something we know works, getting homeless people help. Not just housing (which often gets torn up) but help with the mental health side as well. Fantastic.
I feel bad for everyone involved: the unhoused, their families, and even the decision makers. It’s hard. But, it’s easy to sit on the sidelines and say that no solutions will work. Somebody needs to try something. As the governor said, if it doesn’t work, they will learn. It’s not black and white, it’s a totally gray situation.
About 7 years ago my mother passed away she was caring for my older brother me and my family had to rent out are home and move in to care for him i can not believe the way laws are set up gives people no real way to help their love ones tell after they break laws or hurt you. Laws on Mental health must change they do not help family's trying to get care for a love one
At least Newsom is trying to do SOMETHING! If anyone else has a better plan that could possibly help these homeless people, let them do interviews or testify to Congress (not that the Republicans would ever vote for something that helps the poor).
"We took paradise and turned it into hell. It was very hard to destroy California, it's got huge amounts of timber minerals, oil, natural gas. So it was very hard to destroy that inheritance but we did. We have the highest gasoline process in the United States. We have almost half of the nation's homeless people. We have one-third of the nation welfare recipients. We have the highest income tax, it's sad." ~Victor Davis Hanson
GOVERNOR NEWSOME HAS THE BEST SOLUTION APPROACHES TO THIS SITUATION . HOMELESS WHO WOULD TURN DOWN NEEDEDCARE NEED A PROTECTED CARE . THIS IS A FIRM REQUIREMENT NOT "FORCIN" PEOPLE TO THINGS AS A MISINFORMING REPORT TRIES TO DEPICT THIS AS .....
The advocate is an Enabler, she dosent know she is cruel and only really cares about herself. We need to redesign the notion of institutionalized living, there should be housing and care and one stop and those that can’t self manage permanent residency for theirs and everyone’s saftey. There’s been billions thrown into homelessness; they don’t want it because they can’t physically make that choice.
Exactly the guy us so mentally ill he doesn't know he needs the maximum dose of several psychiatric prescriptions daily. He should be instituted. The "journalist" too what a joke.
I’m back and forth on this but families should be the ones to deal with these mentally I’ll family members and not gov. The issue on the bill is it will address what they declare is a mental illness and can leave a back door to stripping a person of their constitutional rights. And above all else, how much more will this cost CA tax payers when they’re already paying the highest taxes in the country.
Gavin Newsom helped create this problem. Why does he think he's the one to fix the problem he made? Maybe he should get out of the way so that someone who isn't so corrupt can come in and fix the problem instead of making it worse with his own terrible policies.
Psychiatric prescriptions cause long term physical and cognitive damage, so effects include lactating breast in men, increase glycosaminoglycans causing countless effects, honestly pretty much everything in the book
@DMarshallSR no psychiatric prescriptions are worse or at least tied to the worst but taken daily, almost all the crazy shooters were on PSYCHIATRIC PRESCRIPTIONS a listed side/adverse effect is increased homicidality and suicidality.
@DMarshallSR u are showing u agenda and monetary interest. But that costs tax payers $1,500 to $6,000 a day per patient pre covid possibly twice as much now, with the effects of psychiatric prescriptions being far worse
I'm skeptical this will work but I think this will impact the mental health system, health care system, and legal system. What are we going to do when a conserved person refuses treatment? Are people going to physically restrain people and shoot them with drugs everyday until they "get better" only do it all over again when the get better and stop meds, do drugs, or family gets overly involved. Good luck!
Injectable antipsychotic medication can last up to three months. Some people live in residential care homes where they have freedoms but they are monitored to make sure they stay stable. My mentally ill son was conserved and it worked very well until he was released, because he was doing so well, sigh. He died in May, he *needed* the structure.
@@justmyopinion2this act is not what he and the government are disguising it to be. Go read the fine print under the act itself! This applies to every single citizen living in the state of California where the government can mandate you to undergo a program they lay out for you and if you don't comply they will arrest you. This is not for the mentally ill. This is full blown Authoritarianism over the rights of every single citizen in California
@@Kitkat-wu3owthis isn't an act for the mentally ill. Go read the fine print under the act itself. This is for every single citizen in California. You just had your rights taken away and are officially under full blown government Authoritarianism and control. Congratulations on voting for tyranny and a takeover. You got it
The issues is not necessarily whether or not we should have discernment between nefarious intentional, criminal behavior, or a serious lapse in judgment due to chronic mental illness. This could be attributed to trauma, substance abuse, homelessness etc. What derail all the solutions is the fact that neo liberal policies, such as austerity privatization creates a situation where profit becomes the main motivation behind all of this. Even if it is a nonprofit organization. We have to move away from market oriented solutions because in many cases Market solutions is what Got us into this situation.
Gavvy has it covered... let him ride that stallion into oblivion. When the voters in Cali wake up, they will come to their senses and stop electing people like Newsom.
Healthcare robbed taxes of $360,000 per patient in 20 day in LA California with patients passing in 20 day that's up to $18,000 a DAY. Mental healthcare facilities billed taxes $1,500 to $6,000 a day per patient for skid row results.
Ño he did not create this problem but he didn't do anything until now to make it better. This problem was created by ronold Reagan and made worst by bill Clinton.
I find this embarrassing for the 60 minutes legacy. Interviewers tried really hard to demonize this new mental health initiative but fail to do the bare minimum of suggesting an alternative that you’d think would better address the problem.
SOME CASES ARE QUITE COMPLICATED . HOW MUCH PROVOCATION MUST ONE , EXTERNALLY DISTURBED , ENDURE FROM HOSTILE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE INTERNALLY DISTURBED SINCE THE FORMATIVE YEARS & HOSTILE & VICIOUS ?????
I would never vote for a politician who laughs at restricting a person's civil rights and then stamps his feet as this politician does. Medical incarceration. Yep. Shoe fits. Wear it.
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The need for something, is just so great. So obviously apparent, to anyone who lives or visits cities like San Francisco or Los Angeles. To ask if this a political re-election move, or similar, for the Governor; seems to show a lack of awareness of how bad the conditions are in California cities. If you ever experience what it is truly like, how bad the problem is, then you know that something needs to be done, and swiftly done. It’s not good that people lose civil liberties, or are at risk of such. Yet, so many people are so obviously ill, that they may not actually be able to decide what is best for their own health and wellbeing? Yes, mental health services need to be made more accessible. But I don’t know if Gov Newsom can invent more trained therapists and create more psych care clinics? I hope his plan goes through, and saves lives. Also, that it restores cities to a healthier environment (human feces in the streets etc is creating very unhealthy public environs,) and all of the other harsh and dangerous issues that have developed, as well as criminality.
Sooooooowhy did you let it go THIS FAR? Why wasn’t something done a long longggg while ago???? This is what happens when you DON’T DO YOUR JOB!! 🙃 STOP TALKING AND START ACTING/DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT ~ This is NOT a way of life - and if you’re not with your country/people then he needs to GET OUT OF THE WAY for someone else to do the right thing/job - WE’VE GOT SH*T TO DOOOO!!! 😆😂
Newsom was a mayor 20 years ago, and was one of the first political leaders to work on solutions to homelessness. Discard your political bias and give credit where credit is due.
@@jlvandat69 yea I lived in SF and watched him usher is the homeless industry first hand. I also watched him do a lot of other really bad things for the city as well. It has nothing to do with political bias. He has ruined my beloved city and now this state.
If Keanu Reeves didn't play the Devil's Advocate w/Al Pacino u get Gavin Newsome and a lot of conwomen, 60 minutes crossed the line they should just cancel the show in disgrace ehh ehhhh
Could be costly and strip people of their rights? Well, lets think this thur. The general population has to put up with the criminal acts committed by these people. Its a start
Don't agree with the conservatorship piece. "Prove us wrong"? There are a myriad of cases where people have been wrongfully conserved for others' convenience. Britney Spears was a classic example. She was forced to take these horrific meds to keep her within the system b/c of the money she'd earned that her father and others wanted to control. Nightmare. It took her years to pull herself out of it, and she was one of the lucky ones. Totally agree something needs to be done, but what safeguards would be in place to keep this from working in reverse and people being taken advantage of? The 28 yr. old, Marquis (sp? - sorry) was knowledgable and gave solid feedback. She's right about services and prevention. Even if a new court system is built the need for more services would not go away. I don't think people are reticent about this new idea b/c they don't want to be held accountable. We all want to see this problem improved, and that's just the point. If we don't channel our resources constructively, nothing will improve. What about the Patient's Bill of Rights? People have the right to refuse care. They have the right to have their health status explained to them so they understand what's going on. They have, among other things, the right to their own records. Having worked in our decaying healthcare system for about 10 years I've seen first hand how patients can be and often are taken advantage of. There must be better safeguards for that.
A right to refuse care sounds good for people with a working brain. Psychosis indicates a NON-working brain. The person just doesn't have capacity to make a good decision. Using Britney Spears as an example is not useful. Most of the people who would be conserved have no $$. And very, very few would even be conserved with CARE court. The person would still have to meet the requirements of LPS law- gravely disabled, and/or danger to self or others. Most of the people in CARE court will be offered services and the person has a right to say No Thank you. Their symptoms have to be pretty severe to have conservatorship started. In the past a person had to be in and out of 5150 hospitalizations/jail holds to even be considered. This hopefully will address the extreme situations early on. I am a family member. Most people really have no idea how maddening and bewildering it is to have a psychotic loved one for whom you can't access care.
Thank you for saying this. It would make it so much easier for an abusive family member to petition the Court or threaten to do so if the person didn’t comply with their wishes or tried to leave. One thing that was either not looked at or they just didn’t care enough about is that people struggling with mental illness are much more likely to be abused then the other way around.
Conservatorship will not apply to people with depression, bipolar, or anything really other than schizophrenia. Families who care about their children, aunts, uncles, parents with schizophrenia have been asking for something like this for decades.
My uncle is severely schizophrenic. He has been missing for 5 days now. He needs to be institutionalized. He deserves a sound mind
He was just found alive spun out and 40 miles from home. I literally had to smash a meth pipe on concrete tonight but at least he's alive
@@12345CONWAYI want to say if you can be a good family member and offer him help a safe place to withdraw from the meth because he needs to sleep and get his brain balanced back to normal for him
@johnchristensen9826 he's off now for 4 days but with or without drugs he sees and hears things. He can't live with anyone in the family because he screams, gets violent, steals ( if he's on drugs) , accuses people of stealing his ssi. We do what we can by finding him places to live ( until he gets kicked out) . He says meth calms his voices and honestly I believe it but it makes him unbearable to be around. I've convinced him to go to a psychiatric doctor this coming Saturday and hopefully get him a shot of medication
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@@12345CONWAYyou know it isn’t right to help him find someone else’s place to live knowing full well he is a danger to others and himself, this has happened to our family twice and we lost our place to live because of what they did at our house. If you think patient dumping wrong this is basically the same thing. I’m not mad but what has needed to happen is to appeal to the courts and law enforcement
What is not being discussed here is the fact that someone taking medicine for mental illness needs a stable living situation in order for the recovery to set in and it cannot be achieved by medicine alone. Most of the people living on the streets would better be helped by proper nutrition, access to clean water and restrooms to start the process. The State had a 1600 acre facility built in the 1800s in Eldridge California to handle this type of recovery. It was sold to real estate developers while under this Governors watch. The first step to solving this issue is to recognize that the World has always had people that have problems in society including poverty and housing needs to be available to accommodate them. With no low and no income housing the problem will never be fixed.
I think they changed it to include that yesterday or something like that.
Governor he has lot to be blamed for with homeless and drug addicts. When he decimalized hard drug use the result was millions more addicts.
I agree with this, I agree with the ACLU… however I think care court may still be a move in the right direction and here’s why: Americans are politically resistant to providing free health care with their tax dollars. To anyone. You get called a communist. A well funded Public Health Service would require an entirely new institution voters largely don’t want to pay for. The Care Court idea is basically “sneak it in, attached to the court system” because that institution already exists and it is already being used as the only government apparatuses for dealing with the mental health and homelessness crises… in inhumane way that isn’t working. Care court is a compromise, let’s make it less inhumane because otherwise we’ll all get called socialists and any new institutions will be dismantled politically.
@@Mike-01234when did he decriminalize hard drug use?
I don’t know if that’s the case. People make the mistake of thinking that homelessness can be solved by a few simple solutions when that’s not the case. If we were to subscribe to your notion, why didn’t projects room key and home key solve homelessness? While I think both projects were vital, homelessness didn’t improve all that much as we can see today. What largely resulted was many recipients of the program decided to leave and go back on the streets. The solutions often posited do increase the likelihood of homelessness reducing, but it’s largely marginal. The issue is largely two fold: 1. The immense unaffordability of housing in CA (as it can deter many from pursuing housing) and 2. The context in which homeless people grew up and currently live (i.e lack of/strained familial relationships, lack of education, preexisting mental conditions, and drug use). I don’t think there is a clear cut solution, but I think this is absolutely a step in the right direction
Maybe California should send a bill to other states when they treat and help people who are homeless who are out of state. Other states have failed to help their own people who then migrate their way to California.
Same with illegals
That’s the thinking that got California in trouble. If we tax or send the bill to someone else everything will be fine. We keep throwing money at the problem with no results. We might hurt someone’s feelings by putting them in jail or a correction facility to help them get off drugs and treat them
I live in Los Angeles and this is true. If you are unhoused in Detroit, you can freeze to death. In Arizona the summers will bake you. SoCal in particular is nice weather, outside, year round. If you have to be homeless this is the place to more easily survive on the streets. Lots of tourists and wealthier inhabitants outside to scavenge wasted food and cigarettes from too, panhandle. I talk to unhoused people here often. Most are not from California. They got on buses trying to find a more tolerable place to survive on the streets.
Listen, I am a retired psychiatric registered nurse clinician. I worked in a state hospital for ten years. Let me tell you, if you think the solution that will help the homeless mentally ill is to OFFER psychiatric care to ALL people with serious psychiatric illness, it won't work. The ones on the street, the sickest ones, are STILL not going to want to take the medicine that will allow them to be free of the psychotic thinking that is a barrier to them taking proper care of their own selves. Just as you don't let babies run into the street, you don't let the helpless be ruled by their psychotic thinking, to their own serious detriment. It won't be a perfect solution, but it is humane and better than ignoring these helpless people. It will only identify the people whose psychiatric illness makes them a danger to themselves or others and/or which makes it impossible for them to care for themselves or accept help to do so.
That woman is so out of touch. This situation has gone on LONG ENOUGH. The civil court system is the tough love we need to get mental health to the homeless. I am sick of the problem. Accountability has become a joke within all aspects of our society now. There has to be accountability to have any order or to get real, necessary mental health to the people who need it the most. If a person is on the streets with a serious mental health issue they have no mental bandwidth to know they even have a problem so of course they think they don't need/want help. But if they GET it, then they will be able to get off the streets. I don't agree with much that the governor has done for California. But this I do. No one else has come up with a better idea. All the naysayers do is WHINE AND COMPLAIN. We have run out of time for that crap. Action needs to be taken NOW.
Except there is now nothing stopping an abusive family member from complaining to a mental health worker when A) the disabled person living with them becomes inconvenient or try’s to fight back (I can see this being used as a legitimate threat) or B) when the disabled person decides they can no longer take the abuse the family member can claim they’ve gone “psychotic” and then get these courts involved with little pushback from the person these courts are supposedly trying to help. So no now we are truly second class citizens. Where the hell is the ADA?
This wont work, if you force help it will have an adverse effect. Just make the help more affordable.
I worked with the homeless and drug addicted and what always happens is the people with serious mental health illness forget, loose or simply end up incapable due to street life to take meds that help them. After all you see and feel, what they need simultaneously is a home and a buddy, no matter how challenging they are. I think it may be with a try..but for God's sake house them, the streets are dark.. all day.
Thank you for your service! It’s so hard!
Are you opposed to permanent stay for the most sever of case. Redesigned institutionalization like all inclusive private communities with a balance of Holistic and Pharma care, on site services. Do you think we can do better for everyone, since peace of mind is what family friends and the general public need too?
Bravo, Governor Newsom! The mentally ill victims need support. I'm the mother of a daughter with a mental disorder, and she suffers from previous homelessness. I understand the dilemma of protecting the civil rights of the person, yet also protecting them from their illness. It's a painful situation for both the victim and their family.
That's not what this is. You're applauding the person destroying California and that just took the rights away from each citizen in California. Go read the real information under what this act is really about and it goes for every citizen with or WITHOUT a mental illness and anyone including government officials can mandate you to do this and there's nothing you can do about it
Do listen to Newson. He is a crook. He will not keep his words. Newson has run California into the toilet. Do you really think he will use the money on homeless and veterans??? This is a trick. Do be a fool.
@@c.s.440 fake news, get out of here, it's not even for everyone with a mental illness, only for schizophrenia-like patients.
8:00 omg, people with severe mental illness cannot make a determination for themselves.
This isn't for people with severe mental illness. This is for the public of every citizen in California. Go read the fine print!
Since much of the United States took Government and Civics courses out of education, many people don't understand or they forget the basic tenants of "freedom". People's freedoms end when their actions interfere with the rights and freedoms of a neighbor. It seems we are are left with the recurring question: Where do my rights end and yours begin? As stated in a quote by Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. (and validated during numerous Supreme Court cases) "The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." You are free to swing your arms around and say whatever you want. But those rights end when you interfere with someone else's rights and liberties. I live in Los Angeles and have a basic right to safety. People have a basic right to not have bottles thrown at them, have their children step on needles, have their walking impeded or to walk through the the feces of others. California's new CARE Court underscores the basic foundations of liberties and freedoms.
Newsom for President.
DeSantis 2028 Newsom 2032
Fiscer is such a great mother 🏆🌹❤️, Pharoah is lucky to have her as his mother, advocate.
I am glad to see someone finally willing to at least try to manage this problem. Get some of the people off the darn streets. It's awful seeing what is happening to California-LA has always had that weird dichotomy between the rich and the poor. But it's not something that should be ignored and it's good to see someone stand up and do something. Good for him.
💙Gavin Newsom President 2028💙
It won’t significantly reduce the number of people on the streets. It might only help a few people. It’s some thing, it’s just not enough. And the people who think it’s cruel to put someone under a conservatorship or forcibly, take them off the streets to get them evaluated, or that they need to be able to make their own decisions may have good hearts but are ignoring the elephant in the room. These people can’t make their own decisions, which is why they live on the streets.
People end up on the streets for many reasons. Loss of a job and no family support will eventually make you homeless, and so will being kicked out of where you live by a spouse or by family. We're forgetting that homelessness is primarily due to POVERTY, not mental illness. The mental illness may develop later as a result of hard times (trauma) and lack of proper nutrition, but it's not the cause of homelessness. This is just another opportunity for big pharma to make a few more billion and I'm wondering how much of that Gavin is getting or what he's getting from big Pharma. Time will tell.
Newson and Biden allowed open border for drugs to flood into the US and now they complaints about homelessness and crimes. They allowed criminals to take control of many cities in California.
60 minutes should also include statistics of where the homeless are from. Are they really from California? Are they from other states? Regardless, of the breakdown... it makes a difference where the homeless are coming from to determine how much more resources are needed.
Exactly
Conservatives want us to believe this is California’s problem. The reality is that this is a national problem and our healthcare’s continuing failure to care for its citizens to the extent that the problem could bring the US to its knees. The US has to enact comprehensive nationalized healthcare (mental, dental, vision, addiction, disability, and general healthcare for all). This includes locked residential mental health facilities for those suffer from mental health issues so intense that they are unable to care for themselves. We have to do better by our for our citizenry. Currently, we are a heartless country.
No one wants to face the uncomfortable reality that so many of the people out on the streets are literally unable to take care of themselves and have to be forced to get help.
That's not what this is.
I'm blessed. I've epilepsy and limited use of my right limbs. I've a roof over my head in living with family. It watching this it bother me Governor Newsom said, "I'm the Governor not Mayor" as if it was Karen Bass' fault for the homeless problem in California. 😢😢
FINALLYY!!!!!! i reckon this comes 40years too late!!
But he deliberately created many of these problems
Cost of Living in California is expensive. I swear.
The richest country in human history can’t figure out homelessness? Send a man to the moon and soon to Mars but here on Earth it’s a “no can do”.
It's all a set up all planned they want people drugged to increase homelessness in the future, all they have to do is outlaw homelessness, then supply section 8 vouchers while keeping track of them when they break laws like drugs etc send them back in prison with bail, but something more nefarious going on here
The moderator was very negative. She doesn't see what it's like for people to live in Los Angeles. Just look at the crime and crazy people doing obscene things in front of our children. It's getting worse every year and the police won't come in a timely fashion. We are victims in our homes. It is a crisis. Just getting the mentally I'll people off the street will help them and us here.
Newson allowed criminals, drug dealers and homeless people to take over many cities in California. Newson is running California into the toilet. Wake up!!! The middle class is being punished. Newson is robbing the middle class and give the money to the criminals and crooks.
Why not fund mental health clinics in the community?
Place to live is exactly the problem
I support this
As it is in order to place a idea on your own health care a person has to have a county representative speak on the person behalf in California
We need more services not care court
Until U end up living for a few days or a few years homeless. You'll never understand how ending homeness actually happens. So many ways health, Bad luck, divorce, job lost, transportation problematic reasons. Have a heart ♥ It
happens, it's frustrating, its freaking
scary
*CARE Court is exactly what is needed!* The drawback to conservatorships are the outdated laws that are on the books that make it VERY difficult to force care even with CARE Court in place. Anosognosia is a condition that some schizophrenic and bipolar people have, the brain tricks them into thinking they are perfectly normal and they don't need treatment even though they are extremely psychotic.
I lit up like a firecracker while listening to Eve Garrow from the ACLU. Extreme psychosis means the person can't choose which meds to take, certain medicinal cocktails work, others don't. A false dichotomy? Try again! For the sickest population it does mean without treatment they often do eventually die. They live for years out of touch with reality in the cold and rain, hungry, dirty, self medicating often ending up in jail only to be released again. She is living in kumbaya la la land!
JFK did pass a bill for community mental healthcare in 1963, it wasn't funded and meanwhile institutions were shuttered. Sure, more services would be very helpful for the people well enough to seek it. For others, they NEED forced treatment. My son was one such case. He was a paranoid schizophrenic chronically homeless man that was under a conservatorship, once. It worked!! He was stabilized and it was shocking to see the major difference in him.
After 1 year the court released him because he did SO well, yeah, mental illness doesn't disappear like that, so stupid! He slipped away and we couldn't stop it legally. This last May my middle aged son was found unresponsive in a parking garage likely from a Fentanyl laced joint. He was resuscitated and kept alive for 11 days since he was an organ donor. He needed help and the system failed him. *HELL YES to the CARE Court system!* I hope it saves the lives of other parent's kids, it's too late for mine.
I'm terribly sorry to hear this of your son. My sincere condolences. I'm a middle aged man who suffered from mental illness. I hope it doesn't get to this point for me. I'm currently in treatment and it helps.
This program seems impressive. Something is better than nothing. Like Governor Newsom said, if it doesn't work, we learn from it and try something else. But we need to try.
Good points about those who are well enough to seek it. What many dont understand, is that in severe mental illness, often the person isn't stable enough to make the decisions needed to actually get better. And perhaps a system in place to sort of force or impose treatment, isn't such a terrible idea.
Have a great day.
@@liljohn3152, thank you, I appreciate that. I can tell you are light years ahead, my son was so psychotic that he didn't know who he was any longer. His brain eventually erased us altogether, he was very sick.
I agree, this program will give people a chance at stabilizing, it's the missing piece in a really broken system.
A lot of people don't understand that in some cases mentally ill people have anosognosia, the inability to see themselves as they actually are. They think they are just fine, they aren't, their brain has tricked them.
I have hope that lives will be saved. I wish you all the best it sounds like you are self aware and willing, that's crucial.
@@justmyopinion2I’m so sad about your son. How could they just release him like that w no input from family??!
@@huangyi98, it's all about dollars and cents, sadly. Plus, my son spoke on his own behalf telling them he was doing well. Sigh.
There are people that have just mental illness, but the problem you see on the streets in San Fransisco and a few other of California's larger cities is mental illness induced by drugs so I'm really curious how this is actually going to be classified. Not including brain damage from drug use will be pretty useless on a larger scale picture if there goal is to clean up the street and not secretly pad their wallets. And many addicts rather be on the street than sober so most of these cases will be met with folks that do not want to participate. And believe me, you don't want to stick a hundred meth and heroin addicts in a large apartment complex together. They will tear that complex down and damage it to the point of no return in a matter of months. I like that there is some call to action on this problem, but I question how practical and thought out it is. First, at one point are they going to admit that they lost the decriminalizing drug war? and Second, unfortunately many of these people don't need an apartment, many sadly do get to a point of no return and do need a long term care facility. While you do want to have hope for people, you have to look at the statistics and ask yourself what is the long-term solution for people who cannot get better. A lot of these people are straight up brain damaged for life, I hate to say it and they can't be trusted to make proper decisions for themselves. I've lost two close people to drugs, and there was nothing in this world that would have turned them around.
Great report. I learned a lot and gave a lot to think about
taking away the rights of homeless people, how could it go wrong.
CARE COURT WILL BE HUGE FAILURE....
Spot on Governor Newsom. Finally, a politician willing to step up and propose a solution that makes a lot of sense. I have a lot of hope for care court. It is going back to something we know works, getting homeless people help. Not just housing (which often gets torn up) but help with the mental health side as well. Fantastic.
I feel bad for everyone involved: the unhoused, their families, and even the decision makers. It’s hard. But, it’s easy to sit on the sidelines and say that no solutions will work. Somebody needs to try something. As the governor said, if it doesn’t work, they will learn. It’s not black and white, it’s a totally gray situation.
About 7 years ago my mother passed away she was caring for my older brother me and my family had to rent out are home and move in to care for him i can not believe the way laws are set up gives people no real way to help their love ones tell after they break laws or hurt you. Laws on Mental health must change they do not help family's trying to get care for a love one
At least Newsom is trying to do SOMETHING! If anyone else has a better plan that could possibly help these homeless people, let them do interviews or testify to Congress (not that the Republicans would ever vote for something that helps the poor).
i dont think those people have the right mentality to decide whether they should take their meds or not. there not mentally there.
LOLOLOL.... he doesn't walk his kids to the park on the sidewalk.... BS.
"We took paradise and turned it into hell. It was very hard to destroy California, it's got huge amounts of timber minerals, oil, natural gas. So it was very hard to destroy that inheritance but we did. We have the highest gasoline process in the United States. We have almost half of the nation's homeless people. We have one-third of the nation welfare recipients. We have the highest income tax, it's sad." ~Victor Davis Hanson
Housing and supporting homeless people in other ways like mental health care is way cheaper then this route..... But, besides money, why not help?
GOVERNOR NEWSOME HAS THE BEST SOLUTION APPROACHES TO THIS SITUATION .
HOMELESS WHO WOULD TURN DOWN NEEDEDCARE NEED A PROTECTED CARE .
THIS IS A FIRM REQUIREMENT NOT "FORCIN" PEOPLE TO THINGS AS A MISINFORMING REPORT TRIES TO DEPICT THIS AS .....
Honestly throw that "journalist" in prison what a f ___ng joke
Fox News Anchors first!!!
The advocate is an Enabler, she dosent know she is cruel and only really cares about herself. We need to redesign the notion of institutionalized living, there should be housing and care and one stop and those that can’t self manage permanent residency for theirs and everyone’s saftey. There’s been billions thrown into homelessness; they don’t want it because they can’t physically make that choice.
Absolutely 😮agreed
hopefully someone will commit Gavin so he can get help
Exactly the guy us so mentally ill he doesn't know he needs the maximum dose of several psychiatric prescriptions daily. He should be instituted. The "journalist" too what a joke.
Only people who don't know anything about Gavin will fall for his huckster charm.
I’m back and forth on this but families should be the ones to deal with these mentally I’ll family members and not gov. The issue on the bill is it will address what they declare is a mental illness and can leave a back door to stripping a person of their constitutional rights. And above all else, how much more will this cost CA tax payers when they’re already paying the highest taxes in the country.
I approve this message for CARE court. Something must be done
Medication is not the panacea we tuit is . Why not fundíng on medication, not payed for the drug companies ?
I❤Cal’s Gavin Newsom! 🎉
Communist!
Gavin Newsom helped create this problem. Why does he think he's the one to fix the problem he made? Maybe he should get out of the way so that someone who isn't so corrupt can come in and fix the problem instead of making it worse with his own terrible policies.
Anita is Gold
No its just the cost of living wrong property taxes go to the rich district plus nobody builds houses for the future just jail apartment studio
Oh no sry to hear at the end Markesha is missing 😢
I SUSPECT IT IS MORE THAN 1 OUT OF 4 .
GOV. NEWSOME LOOKS DOABLE VERY MUCH .
IN A QUESTIONABLY 'WELL' NATION' WONDER WHAT HIS CHANCES ARE.....??????
HOW CRUEL SOME MENTAL HEALTH PATIENTS & FORMER PATIENTS HAVE BEEN TREATED , OSTRACIZED....FROM SANE SOCIETY .
will they ever criticize a red states like that? no never
Ron DeSantis 2024🩸
Hopefully it works.
Unfortunately the judge finally got to the understanding that Mr the governor of California was shut down Holocaust he's stupid
Care court. 1 necessary tool in the tool box.
Psychiatric prescriptions cause long term physical and cognitive damage, so effects include lactating breast in men, increase glycosaminoglycans causing countless effects, honestly pretty much everything in the book
@DMarshallSR no psychiatric prescriptions are worse or at least tied to the worst but taken daily, almost all the crazy shooters were on PSYCHIATRIC PRESCRIPTIONS a listed side/adverse effect is increased homicidality and suicidality.
@DMarshallSR u are showing u agenda and monetary interest. But that costs tax payers $1,500 to $6,000 a day per patient pre covid possibly twice as much now, with the effects of psychiatric prescriptions being far worse
@DMarshallSR make homelessness illegal arrest people for hard drugs a legal issue has nothing to do with a person's r
@DMarshallSR make homelessness illegal arrest people for hard drugs a legal issue has nothing to do with a person's r
@DMarshallSR make homelessness illegal arrest people for hard drugs a legal issue has nothing to do with a person's
He knows nothing, forcing someone to get help when they're not ready is setting them up for failure in the long run, take it from someone who knows.
I'm skeptical this will work but I think this will impact the mental health system, health care system, and legal system. What are we going to do when a conserved person refuses treatment? Are people going to physically restrain people and shoot them with drugs everyday until they "get better" only do it all over again when the get better and stop meds, do drugs, or family gets overly involved. Good luck!
Injectable antipsychotic medication can last up to three months. Some people live in residential care homes where they have freedoms but they are monitored to make sure they stay stable. My mentally ill son was conserved and it worked very well until he was released, because he was doing so well, sigh. He died in May, he *needed* the structure.
Something needs to be done. Its already having an impact on communities. IMO, they can no longer be allowed to wander aimlessly on the streets.
@@justmyopinion2this act is not what he and the government are disguising it to be. Go read the fine print under the act itself! This applies to every single citizen living in the state of California where the government can mandate you to undergo a program they lay out for you and if you don't comply they will arrest you. This is not for the mentally ill. This is full blown Authoritarianism over the rights of every single citizen in California
@@Kitkat-wu3owthis isn't an act for the mentally ill. Go read the fine print under the act itself. This is for every single citizen in California. You just had your rights taken away and are officially under full blown government Authoritarianism and control. Congratulations on voting for tyranny and a takeover. You got it
This report is so one-sided. I lost respect for 60 minutes.
Las Vegas odds have Gavin, so he will be the next POTUS
“Plenty of money in this space.” Yet none come from his rich friends. Gtfo.
This guy is pure greed.
I'm glad he's seeing it everyday because his actions helped cause it.
The issues is not necessarily whether or not we should have discernment between nefarious intentional, criminal behavior, or a serious lapse in judgment due to chronic mental illness. This could be attributed to trauma, substance abuse, homelessness etc. What derail all the solutions is the fact that neo liberal policies, such as austerity privatization creates a situation where profit becomes the main motivation behind all of this. Even if it is a nonprofit organization. We have to move away from market oriented solutions because in many cases
Market solutions is what Got us into this situation.
Welcome to capitalism.
Open a book because you clearly don't know what capitalism is if you're calling this capitalism! This Authoritarianism, fascism and communism.
Gavvy has it covered... let him ride that stallion into oblivion. When the voters in Cali wake up, they will come to their senses and stop electing people like Newsom.
Excellent leadership by the Governor. But as surely as night follows day, we can count on Rogan, the MAGA's and Far Right to condemn his plan.
Healthcare robbed taxes of $360,000 per patient in 20 day in LA California with patients passing in 20 day that's up to $18,000 a DAY. Mental healthcare facilities billed taxes $1,500 to $6,000 a day per patient for skid row results.
HE'S A LITTLE SLOW.
About time!!!!!!
His policies created the problem. Now he’s going to solve it. Problem, reaction, solution.
No the aclu and Reagan created the problem. The aclu is continuing to try to stop solutions like this one
Ño he did not create this problem but he didn't do anything until now to make it better. This problem was created by ronold Reagan and made worst by bill Clinton.
I find this embarrassing for the 60 minutes legacy. Interviewers tried really hard to demonize this new mental health initiative but fail to do the bare minimum of suggesting an alternative that you’d think would better address the problem.
Unconstitutional
SOME CASES ARE QUITE COMPLICATED .
HOW MUCH PROVOCATION MUST ONE , EXTERNALLY DISTURBED , ENDURE FROM HOSTILE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE INTERNALLY DISTURBED SINCE THE FORMATIVE YEARS & HOSTILE & VICIOUS ?????
A...Cuckoo Court? I LOVE IT!!😂
good idea
❤ u Gavin..u do listen 👂 😊
I would never vote for a politician who laughs at restricting a person's civil rights and then stamps his feet as this politician does. Medical incarceration. Yep. Shoe fits. Wear it.
Gavin Newsome for president 2024, can promise you he will be president in 2028.
DeSantis 2028 Newsom 2032
Už by se mělo začít mluvit trochu víc nahlas o mém duševním zdraví!
Je zřejmé, že to není v pořádku :D
Musíme k soudu :D :D :D :D
Tím Mulač vyhrožoval hnedka po tom, co si místo dohodnutí se jako bílej, rozhodl, že mě vyhodí a začne mě všude očerňovat :D
Hrdina pražskýho podsvětí :D
Better then what's not working now
NEWSOME FOR PRESIDENT .
IT'S ABOUT TIME TRUMP & BIDEN GOT MENTAL HEALTH CARE .
iw will never vote newson for nothing
You could provide a million new psychiatrist and a severely mentally ill person is not going
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The need for something, is just so great. So obviously apparent, to anyone who lives or visits cities like San Francisco or Los Angeles. To ask if this a political re-election move, or similar, for the Governor; seems to show a lack of awareness of how bad the conditions are in California cities. If you ever experience what it is truly like, how bad the problem is, then you know that something needs to be done, and swiftly done. It’s not good that people lose civil liberties, or are at risk of such. Yet, so many people are so obviously ill, that they may not actually be able to decide what is best for their own health and wellbeing? Yes, mental health services need to be made more accessible. But I don’t know if Gov Newsom can invent more trained therapists and create more psych care clinics? I hope his plan goes through, and saves lives. Also, that it restores cities to a healthier environment (human feces in the streets etc is creating very unhealthy public environs,) and all of the other harsh and dangerous issues that have developed, as well as criminality.
Sooooooowhy did you let it go THIS FAR? Why wasn’t something done a long longggg while ago???? This is what happens when you DON’T DO YOUR JOB!! 🙃 STOP TALKING AND START ACTING/DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT ~ This is NOT a way of life - and if you’re not with your country/people then he needs to GET OUT OF THE WAY for someone else to do the right thing/job -
WE’VE GOT SH*T TO DOOOO!!! 😆😂
Big Farmuh probably had a very active role in the creation of Care Court. #itsallaboutthebenjaminsbaby 🤑
Or... gavin newsome can get out =) we need someone new
I hear talks of a recall and signatures are being gathered. Spread the word
Get rid of him
Gavin created all this crap 20 years ago. This is all his fault and now he's acting like he's the hard stance good guy.
Newsom was a mayor 20 years ago, and was one of the first political leaders to work on solutions to homelessness. Discard your political bias and give credit where credit is due.
@@jlvandat69 yea I lived in SF and watched him usher is the homeless industry first hand. I also watched him do a lot of other really bad things for the city as well. It has nothing to do with political bias. He has ruined my beloved city and now this state.
I'm no Gavin fan but you're wrong on this.
He got fire up before elections. He needs to get out. We are disgusted. And you the periodism works for them.
Then recall him! What are you waiting for!?!?!
If Keanu Reeves didn't play the Devil's Advocate w/Al Pacino u get Gavin Newsome and a lot of conwomen, 60 minutes crossed the line they should just cancel the show in disgrace ehh ehhhh
Could be costly and strip people of their rights? Well, lets think this thur. The general population has to put up with the criminal acts committed by these people. Its a start
Don't agree with the conservatorship piece. "Prove us wrong"? There are a myriad of cases where people have been wrongfully conserved for others' convenience. Britney Spears was a classic example. She was forced to take these horrific meds to keep her within the system b/c of the money she'd earned that her father and others wanted to control. Nightmare. It took her years to pull herself out of it, and she was one of the lucky ones.
Totally agree something needs to be done, but what safeguards would be in place to keep this from working in reverse and people being taken advantage of? The 28 yr. old, Marquis (sp? - sorry) was knowledgable and gave solid feedback. She's right about services and prevention. Even if a new court system is built the need for more services would not go away.
I don't think people are reticent about this new idea b/c they don't want to be held accountable. We all want to see this problem improved, and that's just the point. If we don't channel our resources constructively, nothing will improve.
What about the Patient's Bill of Rights? People have the right to refuse care. They have the right to have their health status explained to them so they understand what's going on. They have, among other things, the right to their own records. Having worked in our decaying healthcare system for about 10 years I've seen first hand how patients can be and often are taken advantage of. There must be better safeguards for that.
A right to refuse care sounds good for people with a working brain. Psychosis indicates a NON-working brain. The person just doesn't have capacity to make a good decision. Using Britney Spears as an example is not useful. Most of the people who would be conserved have no $$. And very, very few would even be conserved with CARE court. The person would still have to meet the requirements of LPS law- gravely disabled, and/or danger to self or others. Most of the people in CARE court will be offered services and the person has a right to say No Thank you. Their symptoms have to be pretty severe to have conservatorship started. In the past a person had to be in and out of 5150 hospitalizations/jail holds to even be considered. This hopefully will address the extreme situations early on. I am a family member. Most people really have no idea how maddening and bewildering it is to have a psychotic loved one for whom you can't access care.
Thank you for saying this. It would make it so much easier for an abusive family member to petition the Court or threaten to do so if the person didn’t comply with their wishes or tried to leave. One thing that was either not looked at or they just didn’t care enough about is that people struggling with mental illness are much more likely to be abused then the other way around.