The Miroku's prior to their becoming the Browning Citori had a very unique hammer/spring design. Top hammer pivots from the bottom as with most O/U shotguns, but the bottom barrel hammer pivots from top. This design makes for more uniform and reliable primer hits but poses a difficult hammer spring configuration. The springs reside BEHIND the hammers, buried in the action, and are a PITA to replace. In addition, your s/n indicates that the gun is a "Type 2" which means that it has V springs instead of coil springs. V or flat springs are much more susceptible to breakage, replacements will likely have to be custom made, and in this particular gun (Miroku/Daly) are a BITCH to change. The later Type 4 guns used coil springs, and while they are still difficult to change, the springs are easier to find and much less likely to break. And it goes without saying, use snap caps and relieve the hammer springs whenever you're not using the gun. This is the best Miroku/Daly info that I know of - www.leeroysramblings.com/Gun%20Articles/Miroku_O-U_shotguns.html I suggest that you print it since it could disappear from the internet at any time. FYI - Miroku changed the hammer/spring design to a more conventional setup shortly after they began making the Citori for Browning.
I have a Charles Daly over and under like yours except I have it in a 3 inch magnum. The only thing I dislike about it is that both barrels are full choke. It is a very light weight gun so you won't be tired of carrying it all day. I used it for waterfowl for years until they went to steel shot. The recoil of the gun was strong when I shot the 3 inch magnum lead ammunition through it. I now look at it in my vault and occasionally take it out and use it for trap shooting. Good luck with it and enjoy it. It will perform to your liking.
Beautiful. I inherited an identical Charles Daly. I fired it many times. Mine only takes 2 3/4 inch shells so don't go out hunting with anything longer.
Sweeeeeeet!!! I'm green with envy! That's a very fine shotgun, as I'm sure you've discovered. $800 is a great deal for something every bit as well made as a Citori. Congrats!
Sir, lucky man. Miroku's are very common in the U.K. They are a very well respected gun. I've just bought a 1990 Miroku 7000 sp1 in excellent used condition and happily paid £660. If your gun had been for sale in the U.K. In that unfired condition, you would have paid $1500 to $1800, possibly more. You can use your gun every weekend for the next 30 years with no more than routine cleaning and servicing and it will not let you down. I have the Miroku and a Browning 525 and a Browning ultra XS all made in Japan ( the xs is hand finished in Belgium ) and I will not sell any of them. Enjoy your gun, it's a beauty.
Wow what a great deal you got. Most used ones you find are at the $800 + mark. To find a new one in the box is unheard of. I have 2 Miroku Superiors one single and one over and under trap guns. Both are from the late 60's still firing 2 rounds of trap a week. Bought the single new and when my grandson wanted to shoot around 2012 I bought the used over and under. both have been flawless. Enoy the gun, you made a great choice.
Very similar experience when I got my Daly Miroku Superior grade off the used rack at my local big box gun store. I could not believe it as I stood there staring at it as I already knew the history and relationship between Miroku and Browning. It did not leave my hands until it was mine needless to say.
Miroku is the same miroku that still makes the brownings. Not until you step up into the upper echelon of brownings do you get a Belgium browning . Well worth what you paid.
Hey Sasquatch, I was at a small gun store yesterday and a old timer came in with one just like that, the stock was in real poor condition, how easy is it to take the stock off the receiver? As I’m looking at trying to find a new stock and buying the over under
I’m not exactly sure, I haven’t messed with it too much. I’d like to say it’s easy but I honestly have no idea. You could probably sand it and stain it on the gun if it’s just beat up.
Sasquatch Mountain Tactical , part of the stock is broke where it meets the receiver you can see right through to the trigger group so would need a new stock, found one for around $80.00
G'day Sasquatch. In about '1975 Browning made a deal with Miroku, and since then most Brownings that you see in US were and still are made by Miroku. But prior to that, they did these label deals to build for a specific seller such as Charles Daly. So it's earlier than '75. The style of engraving puts it before '73. The rounded end to the pistol grip puts it even earlier, even '70.
That’s some awesome info! Thanks man! I’m not very familiar with the vintage sporting guns, so I appreciate it! I still haven’t fired it yet but I’m considering it, although the idea of a gun that age being unfired is kinda cool too. What do you think I should do
@@mikeodonnell5476 Well you can't shoot many birds with it sitting in a box :-) It all depends if you see it as a collectors item or a tool to be used. It's a decent gun, but not a 'special' edition or anything - just a regular good quality shotty. If you do plan to shoot it, maybe get the local gun store to just check the action and lube it all nice. There are Miroku collectors out there, but I think this guy wants to see the open fields.
@@mikeodonnell5476 just saw this clip which I think matches your gun pretty close. Early '70's, they called it a model 700, a a game gun with the sleeker fore-end, the rounded grip, which they call a Prince of Wales grip. ua-cam.com/video/ujpoNLFmKJA/v-deo.html
I have the exact gun from 1969, the year I was born, I wouldn't trade it for any modern gun... awesome find
A fine gun you got there.
The Miroku's prior to their becoming the Browning Citori had a very unique hammer/spring design. Top hammer pivots from the bottom as with most O/U shotguns, but the bottom barrel hammer pivots from top. This design makes for more uniform and reliable primer hits but poses a difficult hammer spring configuration. The springs reside BEHIND the hammers, buried in the action, and are a PITA to replace. In addition, your s/n indicates that the gun is a "Type 2" which means that it has V springs instead of coil springs. V or flat springs are much more susceptible to breakage, replacements will likely have to be custom made, and in this particular gun (Miroku/Daly) are a BITCH to change. The later Type 4 guns used coil springs, and while they are still difficult to change, the springs are easier to find and much less likely to break. And it goes without saying, use snap caps and relieve the hammer springs whenever you're not using the gun.
This is the best Miroku/Daly info that I know of - www.leeroysramblings.com/Gun%20Articles/Miroku_O-U_shotguns.html
I suggest that you print it since it could disappear from the internet at any time. FYI - Miroku changed the hammer/spring design to a more conventional setup shortly after they began making the Citori for Browning.
that had alot of info
I have a Charles Daly over and under like yours except I have it in a 3 inch magnum. The only thing I dislike about it is that both barrels are full choke. It is a very light weight gun so you won't be tired of carrying it all day. I used it for waterfowl for years until they went to steel shot. The recoil of the gun was strong when I shot the 3 inch magnum lead ammunition through it. I now look at it in my vault and occasionally take it out and use it for trap shooting. Good luck with it and enjoy it. It will perform to your liking.
Beautiful. I inherited an identical Charles Daly. I fired it many times. Mine only takes 2 3/4 inch shells so don't go out hunting with anything longer.
I have one that my father received on his 12th birthday. That puts it from 1961 or so.
That’s awesome!
Sweeeeeeet!!! I'm green with envy! That's a very fine shotgun, as I'm sure you've discovered. $800 is a great deal for something every bit as well made as a Citori. Congrats!
Yeah it’s really a fantastic gun!
Sir, lucky man. Miroku's are very common in the U.K. They are a very well respected gun. I've just bought a 1990 Miroku 7000 sp1 in excellent used condition and happily paid £660. If your gun had been for sale in the U.K. In that unfired condition, you would have paid $1500 to $1800, possibly more. You can use your gun every weekend for the next 30 years with no more than routine cleaning and servicing and it will not let you down. I have the Miroku and a Browning 525 and a Browning ultra XS all made in Japan ( the xs is hand finished in Belgium ) and I will not sell any of them. Enjoy your gun, it's a beauty.
Wow what a great deal you got. Most used ones you find are at the $800 + mark. To find a new one in the box is unheard of. I have 2 Miroku Superiors one single and one over and under trap guns. Both are from the late 60's still firing 2 rounds of trap a week. Bought the single new and when my grandson wanted to shoot around 2012 I bought the used over and under. both have been flawless.
Enoy the gun, you made a great choice.
Very similar experience when I got my Daly Miroku Superior grade off the used rack at my local big box gun store. I could not believe it as I stood there staring at it as I already knew the history and relationship between Miroku and Browning. It did not leave my hands until it was mine needless to say.
Miroku is the same miroku that still makes the brownings. Not until you step up into the upper echelon of brownings do you get a Belgium browning . Well worth what you paid.
Good job
Nice!!!@@!!!!
Hey Sasquatch, I was at a small gun store yesterday and a old timer came in with one just like that, the stock was in real poor condition, how easy is it to take the stock off the receiver? As I’m looking at trying to find a new stock and buying the over under
I’m not exactly sure, I haven’t messed with it too much. I’d like to say it’s easy but I honestly have no idea. You could probably sand it and stain it on the gun if it’s just beat up.
Sasquatch Mountain Tactical , part of the stock is broke where it meets the receiver you can see right through to the trigger group so would need a new stock, found one for around $80.00
G'day Sasquatch. In about '1975 Browning made a deal with Miroku, and since then most Brownings that you see in US were and still are made by Miroku. But prior to that, they did these label deals to build for a specific seller such as Charles Daly. So it's earlier than '75. The style of engraving puts it before '73. The rounded end to the pistol grip puts it even earlier, even '70.
That’s some awesome info! Thanks man! I’m not very familiar with the vintage sporting guns, so I appreciate it! I still haven’t fired it yet but I’m considering it, although the idea of a gun that age being unfired is kinda cool too. What do you think I should do
@@mikeodonnell5476 Well you can't shoot many birds with it sitting in a box :-) It all depends if you see it as a collectors item or a tool to be used. It's a decent gun, but not a 'special' edition or anything - just a regular good quality shotty. If you do plan to shoot it, maybe get the local gun store to just check the action and lube it all nice. There are Miroku collectors out there, but I think this guy wants to see the open fields.
Taralga Bush Adventure I think you’re right!
@@mikeodonnell5476 just saw this clip which I think matches your gun pretty close. Early '70's, they called it a model 700, a a game gun with the sleeker fore-end, the rounded grip, which they call a Prince of Wales grip.
ua-cam.com/video/ujpoNLFmKJA/v-deo.html