Josh Pate On Texas & Oklahoma In SEC (Late Kick Cut)
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- Texas and Oklahoma are about to enter a whole new world as they head to the SEC in 2024, and on Late Kick Live Ep 466 Josh Pate responded to a viewer question about how the Horns and Sooners will adjust and how the conference will fare against them. Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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Bro, Texas, and Oklahoma, or two of the top 10 college football programs of all time! And don’t get me started about the basketball, the baseball, the softball that they bring to our league! The SEC just got two of the biggest brands in the country I think they will do just fine!
Also Golf, Tennis, Diving, Swimming, Volleyball. All are top tier nationally.
I remember several years ago when OU was going to play a team for the SEC, and during a press conference a reporter asked Bob Stoops about playing the "SEC". Stoops replied that we aren't playing the SEC we're playing whatever team it was they were going to play.
I see Texas and Oklahoma joining us just making us stronger. We'll be cheering sec, sec for them as well.
Your Tiger tailgaters are a sight to see in Austin.
Both had great recruiting classes. Two good teams.
Razorback fan here: Horns and Sooners will both do very well in the SEC and are a natural fit. The SEC gauntlet just got alot tougher!!
Agree that Texas and Oklahoma will be very competitive from day one in the SEC. Two storied programs with lots of natties between them! Can’t wait for Oklahoma vs LSU in Tiger stadium next year!
That should be must-see tv.
This is my favorite match up next season for my Sooners. I need tickets to Baton Rouge. Although I’ve heard it’s during rivalry week and they’re not really rivals. LSU fans seem a bit upset about that.
This is why I’m excited to join the SEC. Fanbases that know ball like LSU and Bama
Let's see. I think TX will be competitive, but not quite as sure about OU, even if I think they have an "easier" schedule. I didn't watch enough of OU's defense this season to be confident they will hold up.
OU will probably go around 4-4, realistically in year 1. Huge Sooner fan.
I don’t favor us at LSU. Bama should be a tough one at home. At Mizzou will mean a lot to the tigers. I think there’s plenty of other ones that could be dropped (Texas, at ole Miss, at Auburn, Tennessee at home). The only game I feel “comfortable” with is South Carolina at home.
These two teams are going to be just fine. They will sit at the top of the SEC with Bama, Georgia, and whoever is hot at the moment. They are going to be very familiar with the top slots in the SEC. WPS
Thank you! Excited for the 2024 season. OU has a young but talented team!
Josh!!💥 Preciate you giving us a little love! 🤘🤘 we’re not gonna go in and lay down to these teams.
I live in Baton Rouge and as a Texas alum I have heard for the last two years you are getting deeper water, my response is 'this isn't Arkansas and Missouri coming in. Your schedule just grabbed another "L" on it'.
Sooner alum in Baton Rouge here and I’m equally as tired of hearing this
Here's why people say it. It's because the talent disparity us not all that different between SEC schools (unless your Vandy). In the Big12 outside of OU and Texas you you might get 1 team in the top 25 in terms of incoming talent. A top 25 class would be the best class ever at places like KSt, Iowa St, Kansas, Baylor, TCU etc. In the SEC a top 25 class nationally is like #12 in the SEC.
OU fan here, and i agree we won't be back of the bus, I agree there will be an adjustment period as we get used to competitive competition on a more weekly basis. Something I think that isn't getting addressed is that the rest of the SEC will actually begin playing tougher schedules, too. How many years has Ga and AL had easier schedules with really only 1, maybe 2 tough games and 4 cupcake OOC. I mean, has GA even played AL more than once in regular season in 10 years? No more, the rotation for all schools will be tougher it will be fun. To me, it's more like early 2000 big 12 competition and I am here for it!
Alabama and Georgia are used to tough schedules. Texas and Oklahoma are not. Not to say schedules won’t be harder now. But if anyone has a bigger adjustment to make it’s the new teams coming into the club.
Not sure how my Sooners will do in winning championships, but I am excited to see us go up against the SEC teams on a regular basis instead of every few years. Been waiting 40 years for exciting regular season games other than Texas to be played every year. 🥳
Agreed. We have a tough first year conference schedule. Like you said, all good. Exciting to see more meaningful games
I definitely agree.. Can't wait to see how OU and my Horns do in the SEC. Just glad both teams are leaving the big 12 together 🤘
@@coreybell1215 am I alone in having a mutual respect for my rival? I think having to go thru the last couple years in the little xii together has made us closer. We'll both be given the business next year, too, by opposing fans. It's a weird love-hate dynamic we've got going on now isn't it? LOL good luck against Washington and the toss-up game of Michigan-Bama :)
@cconnell7009 I lived in Oklahoma for 13 years, now I'm back in Fort Worth. It's not too often I discuss football with an OU fan that's nice to engage with. Good luck to y'all today.
For years some of Texas’ best high school talent left Texas to go play for a Bama, Florida, Georgia or LSU in the SEC because they wanted to play in the SEC.
Now, that OU and Texas are joining the SEC, I think it helps Texas keep more of their HS talent in the state while getting more out of state kids interested in an OU and Texas.
So I think it helps both OU and Texas who already recruit at a high level improve recruiting even more. OU and Texas belong for sure in the SEC.
OU had a subpar year this year but as a Texas fan, I know they’ll be right in the hunt challenging the best of the SEC for conference championships soon.
You are right, that is the WHOLE reason Texas and OU jumped to the SEC. It wasn't about money, hell Texas has enough money to buy the SEC schools (compare the endowments, Texas is 68 billion to Alabama's ONE billion dollars). It was about them losing the recruiting battle to the Aggies and the out of state schools taking the prime talent elsewhere.
OU had 2 bad games on the road they lost by a score in year 2 of a total roster and philosophy overall and are the only team that has beat Texas so far i ain't worried we have beat Bama , Auburn and Tennessee twice and lost to Georgia in OT cuz Riley is a garbage coach that cant manage a game OU/Texas will be fine lol its the ole miss /missou/ AnMs of the SEC that should be worried cuz they just fell a rung
@ToddRobinson13 Again, Texas doesn't need the money, they have more money than God! All they care about is winning championships and when Herman was there he went to the AD's and told them he couldn't stay with the Aggies in the recruiting war because of their affiliation to the SEC. That's what started the ball rolling.
Someone checked my memory on this - Texas beat Alabama and Georgia the last time they played. Am I correct?
You’re correct. And Oklahoma beat texas the last time they played
@@parnassus804you’re correct happens to be their only good win in years
True Okie beat Texas who beat Bama who beat Georgia
Oklahoma fans act like they won the Natty when they beat Texas. 😂
@@TheUsual210who’s your team little buddy
Anyone thinking that Texas and Oklahoma will struggle in the SEC is making a terrible bet, especially now that Texas appears to have wandered out of their wilderness period. They are top 10 historical programs with massive passionate fan bases and rivers of cash flowing through, as long as they have competent coaches they will be anywhere from good to great. Will they win all the championships like it felt they did in the Big 12? Probably not, but now you won't have to win conference every year to be playoff caliber.
Texas has been good for two yrs in past 10 and Oklahoma in past 10 yrs has struggled against SEC in big moments. So they may do great but they going to go through pains because big 12 teams not same as SEC middle and top tier teams
@@RamblingRob-vi7ctlmao who has OU struggled against? Bama and 2019 LSU? Check past bowl games other than those… tell me where they struggle lol
@@RamblingRob-vi7ctThe difference is Oklahoma has a much better defense now and a much better coach. The struggles against the SEC before are irrelevant. That was basically an entirely different staff with a different philosophy.
Texas hasn’t been relevant for decades and playing in a soft conference.
@RamblingRob-vi7ct Oklahoma has only struggled when we had Riley. We've been blessed since then. A&M was mid tier in big 12, same in SEC. Missouri is also a carbon copy of their big12 self. You sir are an SEC Homer. Ourselves and Texas will be just fine.
Texas has been preparing for this transition since Sark arrived …
no we havent lol hahaha. We dont mind going to your conference. Texas doesnt really fit in the SEC, we fit better out west. However, the SEC is a great home and we are all excited to go
Yes. Del conte playing chess while us Texas fans where playing checkers. We really wanted urban meyer. Texas made the right move all around.
You are completely right. A&M joined the conference in 2012 and ended up going 7-2 in conference play. Talent wise Texas and OU will be at the top half of the SEC
Yeah, but A&M also came into the SEC with a generational talent at quarterback in Johnny Manziel. You don’t have players like that on the team very often and A&M has done nothing since he left.
@@davidpalmer3790 you’re acting as if Texas doesn’t have talent - coming from an Aggie. Check talent composites from ‘12 Aggie team vs ‘23 Texas team
@@g7fford354 I never said anything about Texas. They’ll have talent but look teams like LSU, Auburn, A&M, Bama will usually have talent. Arkansas and Ole Miss too. The SEC, especially the west, is a lot harder to win in then what Texas is used to and they weren’t dominating over there either.
As a born raised OU fan, I believe that we’ll do just fine in the SEC!!
I just moved to Oklahoma, you'll find in the SEC, Iron sharpens Iron, that's what happened to UGA, their schedule was so easy they weren't prepared for a Bama squad. I'm a die hard Bama fan and an SEC fan, don't be surprised if we are rooting for Sooners, SEC SEC SEC 😂😂😂😂good luck ya'll 😉 👍
After a 0-1 start lol. Go Vols!!!
Love it when JP is right in a way that upsets people 😂
They will be fine. They have money, tradition and passion from their fan base.
One thing no one is talking about is that SEC teams will have to add OU and Texas to their schedule, which means many of those SEC teams will get more losses than they're used to on a regular basis.
Something tells me you dont follow the SEC up to this point. If youre not a very good team you end up using half your conference games in the SEC. It's nothing new. this is the big 12 where UT and OU win most of the conference games guaranteed. It's OU and UT that will have to get used to more losses than before.
@@HMuny55 That is total SEC talk, you act as if Texas and OU will have to play Bama and Georgia every week and that's just not the facts. Look at UGA's schedule for the last 5 years, there are multiple teams that would go undefeated or lose one game with those schedules.
We all will. As good as they are, let TX or OU have a normal mid-season lack of effort, and anyone in this conference (Vandy included) will beat them. Same goes for the "big boys" playing TX/OU. We're going to have so many great matchups in the years to come! Excited for this, even if I don't like the lack of divisions and bragging rights that comes with it.
No - they all will still play 4 noncon cupcakes
@@floridapmiOklahoma just lost by 2 TDs to Arizona. You don’t get what he’s saying. In the SEC you’ll be playing vs Arizona-quality teams most weeks. This isn’t the Big 12 where you get frees weeks off.
Oklahoma has a BRUTAL schedule next season. Wow!
They are gonna do fine. Gonna be fun watching them. I'm from California now living in Alabama so I'm not blinded by the rhetoric going on down here. lol. The SEC has some amazing teams but Oklahoma and Texas are great programs with historic achievements themselves. They're worthy additions to the conference and actually will make it even better than before. That being said...ROLL TIDE!!!
It's not just about OU and Texas, yes SEC teams will have to play them, but just as importantly, the top SEC teams are not going to be ducking each other in the regular season. Alabama is going to be playing Georgia a LOT more, the dismantling of divisions is going to be a change for everyone.
i will say as an Ou fan 2024 schedule is by far toughest schedule i can remember in my life.. every game is going to be epic playoff type football!
We can’t wait to welcome OU to the conference. It wouldn’t be good to lose your first sec game at home. GO VOLS!!!
Lol this is your best video, Josh. You’ve been saying what I have been for years. Everybody rooting for each other in the SEC so they can feel good about their team not winning. Leaching off their success. That’s so corny. Good stuff man.
People in the SEC chant that because they know how hard it is to win in this conference and everyone knows from top to bottom the SEC has better teams on average. I personally hope other SEC teams lose but I know how hard they want to win and try to field good teams.
The fact that the addition of Texas and OU is creating a balanced SEC schedule year and year out alone makes the SEC better. It's a good bet an SEC champion will no longer be undefeated, could have 2 losses most likely on a regular basis. Recruiting has always been good for Texas and OU, but now they are both in the SEC, it just got better. Texas and OU will be in the top 5 year in and year out at the end of the season, and that means in the top spot as well once the conference gets going.
I think that what's going to happen to OU and TU is they are going to find out how good their bench is.
When Mizzou made the jump to the SEC no one thought they had a chance, but they went to back-to-back SEC championships in their first two years in the SEC. I don't see why Texas and OU can't come in and wreck house right away.
But that was an idiotic take, even back then. MU had just been recently ranked either #1 or #2 in the nation, the prior year. Teams that compete on a national level, are good enough to compete in the SEC.
@@Tijuanabill no it’s not, if everyone claims the SEC is so much better than any other conference then how should anyone from any other conference be able to come in and win the SEC if they are so much better than all other conferences? Because their not, there is just a bias for the SEC and everyone puts them on a pedestal when in reality they have a handful of good teams like any other conference with a bunch of mediocre teams to go along with it.
@@sgtsugar5755 I think you agree but you just misunderstood what I was saying.
Yes, if the SEC was better to the degree that the bottom tier team fanbases say it is, then nobody would ever win against SEC teams, and the rankings would start with the SEC, then go on from there. Obviously that isn't the case.
But there are genuinely MILLIONS of SEC fans, that think the only thing holding them back, is their schedule, and if their team played in any other conference, they would go 100-0. They really believe it, but it's just excuse making.
If you split the non-conference records from the top and the bottom half of the SEC, you will see the top teams do dramatically better in the non-conference, and the bottom teams are nothing to brag about. It isn't just their schedule, it's their roster. They would be at the bottom of all the conferences, not just the SEC.
@@darrellwayne8983 Every bottom feeder SEC fanbase disagrees, but I do not. I think OU coming to the SEC helps our chances by a lot, to reach the only goal our program has, winning nattys.
Texas and Oklahoma will be fine and immediately contend. Welcome to the premier conference!
Do people forget the last time two big 12 teams came into the sec? Mizzou won two sec east titles in their first three seasons and A&M beat bama, had a Heisman trophy winner and won 11 games all in year one. All due respect to Mizzou and A&M Texas and Oklahoma are much much better programs.
They will probably lose more times then not to bama and Georgia but so does the rest of the sec.
do you forget the last time a Big 12 team played your top team?.......hummmm you forget that? That texas bama game was not near as close as the score indicated.
Mizzou and A&M never won a Big 12 title. Like the SEC, there is levels in all conferences. Y’all are taking in the Top Shelf programs this time.
A&M and Mizzou were middling teams in the Big 12 not the top 2.
Ahhhhhhh there he is.............ANOTHER SEC homer!!! lol..."lose more times then not...."!
@Zargabaath what an idiot. Texas (if not for bad calls ) beat bama the year before too. Texas and OU neither one have drunk the "oh the mighty sec Kool aid" . .....both have winning records against "the mighty Alabama" ...what about that history ......ummm huh....y'all will be making sammiches for us and bringing us sweet tea.
Short answer: they will make the SEC better overall and both have the brands to compete in recruiting against the likes of Georgia and Alabama.
They also reduce ever member teams chance of winning the conference and going undefeated. I'm imagining a 1 loss SEC team winning the conference and fanbois clamoring for an undefeated Oklahoma State being one of the "bye" teams
Love to see Pate humbling SEC fans I'm here for all of it.
No idea how anything he said is humbling
@johnnaylor1706 SEC fans talk crap the whole season to OU and TX fan bases the whole season saying that we won't be able to compete in the "Greatest Conference"
@imaginethat2839 I think the overarching opinion is yes, you will compete, but you won't be perennially winning 10-11 games every year. You'll have more 8 and 9 win seasons. It's just how it is down here.
In 2021 after Arkansas embarrassed UT I was not looking forward to 2024 and the SEC
But 3 years later I am much more confident
Bring it on
As a die hard Bama fan, i was originally aganist this strictly because Texas didnt come when they had the chance and actively tried stopping A&M....and i guess Mizzou.
TX & OU makes the SEC better and i expect them to do well.
Well said !
RTR
As an Oklahoma fan I agree. We are in far better shape now than if Lincoln and his invisible defenses would be. Thankful Venebles. Texas and OU will win big games and lose a few. The conference will be astounding. No body stays on top forever but I expect the 2 newcomers to quickly be competitive at the top and hopefully supplant the longtime SEC dominators.
As a Sooner fan I refuse to have any expectations.
Next year’s schedule looks like a meat grinder for OU.
Still yet I am excited to see what plays out.
I have a feeling Coach Heupel knows a thing or two about BV and it will be evident.
Each and every week will be a challenge next season.
It will be discernible just exactly where we stand nat the end of next season.
Now Texas….. That team will not surprise me at all over the remainder of this season. They’re nothing short of mean ass kickers right now. Alabama knows it too.
Im more excited about playing through the sec and those matchups than i am about the playoff at all, could care less about the playoff i just wanna play bama, lsu, georgia, this is gonna be fun!
OU and Texas upgraded the quality of the SEC.
Some SEC Fans seem to be a little bit confused. The reality is this: With Texas and OU coming in, it eliminates the two Divisions (West and East) SO THAT NOW, every current SEC Team's schedule is more difficult. UGA will have a more difficult schedule as will Bama. Look at Florida's schedule - they go from having a relative easy schedule in The East to now having a very difficult slate of Games. Every SEC Team today will have a much more difficult schedule, not to mention that their Away Schedule just got more difficult. Texas and OU are going to be just fine while some current teams in The SEC will regress. Pate's analogy to "the seat on the bus" is spot on!!!
Just look at recruiting, Texas is 3rd in sec recruiting right now, just right after bama and Georgia, Texas will be just fine🤘🏽
Hook 'Em Horns! We're coming! 🤘
2 great teams joining the SEC they will compete and be successful, the best football games will be in the SEC next year… Can’t wait!
Well spoken, this is 100 percent the truth
I don't see how anyone can think they will struggle in the SEC. Texas literally went TO Bama and beat them by double digits this year.
They struggled to get out of the big 12 undefeated. It won’t be easier in the SEC
They also should have won the game last year against bama at home, but the refs blew the call on the safety but that’s here nor there…that game was down to the wire
Can't argue that ... but also can't argue the fact that the team who lost to Texas is not the same team that beat Georgia. Greg McElroy has a video up comparing Alabama's stats thru the 1st 7 games and the last 5 ... in many categories they went from 60 - 80th place in the rankings to the Top 5.
Having your A game for 2 games a year is easy. That B game you bring won't get you to overtime like the Kansas St game this year. Talent at Texas is good enough,,, adjusting to SEC opponents is a mindset not easily achieved. That Alabama game you won will have a Georgia, LSU, Ole Miss awaiting next week. Get ready for the adjustment,,, it's coming.
80 percent of the overrated sec teams suck. They yell sec like they won something but haven't ever did shit. Ok and Texas will be just fine in the sec.
The question isn't can they compete with the upper echelon of the SEC. The question is how do they respond when they're asked to compete at a high level through a season. Replace TCU with LSU. Replace Baylor with Ole Miss. Replace Oklahoma State with Georgia. Now, we're in the meat of the conversation
Glad to have them in the league!
No, we are replacing going to Manhattan, Stillwater and Aimes for Nashville, Starkville and Columbia. I love how SEC fans pick the toughest teams with cupcakes when comparing.
@floridapmi I love a debate 😊
Both teams are great and can compete with anyone. They've been the only bullies on the block for a few decades. Now, they're no longer the bullies. Vanderbilt, South Carolina, Kentucky, and a few others are bad. However, you go down the line hat for hat, the SEC's #3, #4, #5, #6, and #7 teams are better than what Texas and Oklahoma are accustomed to playing in the BIG12. To say otherwise is intellectually dishonest...
But we are also adding fluff games in the middle of the season because that is the SEC way. We never did that in the Big XII.
@@kenthefley2226Correct. No more fluff games like Rice, Wyoming, Arkansas State, SMU, or Tulsa.
Chatanooga in week 12@@kaycecole9261
FYI: Worthy turned down Michigan to play at Texas. His dream scenario is playing them for the title.
Missouri, Arkansas, Tennessee, South Carolina, Florida, Ole Miss, Miss State fans chant SEC the loudest lol
Frankly NIL and SEC move is the salvation of the Texas program. The money they have is insane. And now they have a coach who can both coach and recruit? Yeah, bad for everyone else (full disclosure : I am most decidedly not a UT fan, I just observe the reality in front of me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯).
The SEC just got more difficult for everyone. Those two teams already recruit top ten classes, and will probably get a recruiting bump from this. That conference is going to be a bloodbath.
I can’t wait to watch my Gators go to Austin and get beat to sleep.
Texas and Oklahoma is going to come in and hit the ground running and will be near the top of the conference.
Can it be said at least they’re not coming in like A&M? Now that was a loud entrance followed by a small fizzle and fade to mediocre. Lmao! Hook EM!! 🤘
How was UT doing during that loud entrance? Yeah maybe have more than one good year in the last decade then y’all can come back out of the closet…
@@Slushybear405A&M has ONE 10 win season since 2000. Texas has 11. Don't think you want to talk about having one good season, my boy.
To go further, Texas has more 10+ win seasons since 2000 than A&M has in their entire history.
To go even further, Texas has more 10+ win seasons in the past five years than A&M has had since 2000.
@@MO_Lip_Ripper and yet we’ve still been far better than Texas in that time. Ouch must sting
I totally agree
Scary thought: The SEC just got STRONGER.
IF YOU NOT GA,ALABAMA,LSU,OR EVEN FLA... YES YOU ARE BEHIND TX AN OLKA
If Alabama and Georgia are 1A and 1B (no particular order), Texas is immediately 2. But We’ll find out in the next three weeks if Texas enters as the best team in the conference year 1.
I have it in my head that the head coaches on those three teams have some kind pf history in common.... can't quite put my finger on it :)
So..........the last time Texas played Georgia (in 2019), Bevo scared their little dog after which GA got pounded. Texas hold the historical lead over Georgia 4-0-1. The last time Texas played Alabama, the tide got wrecked in their own house by 10. Texas holds the historical lead overall with Alabama 8-1-2. Both of the 2 losses came after the QB's for Texas were hurt and left the games. I get that SEC homers can't grasp this but seriously Texas is NOT worried about playing the ONLY two good teams in the SEC. \,,/ Hook'em \,,/
None of you understand. I'm not locked up in here with YOU. You're locked up in here with ME -Rorschach
Best, most insightful, and concise comment on this thread! It’s gonna be a ‘murderer‘s row’ for EVERYBODY. And it’s gonna be more fun than a barrel of monkeys to watch! 🤘
OMG as a Boomer Sooner fan and someone who lives walking distance from The University of Oklahoma, get ready for a lot more FOOTBALL FUN...both my TEXAS and OKLAHOMA oil and gas buddies are so ready for July 1st, 2024. BTW just ask your softball teams a question??? Can y(OU)r SEC softball team beat OU??? Josh Pate, when you finally travel to OU checkout the Heisman Trophy Statues on the East side of the OU stadium and the Selmon brothers stature. And finally anyone coming to Norman, Oklahoma walk around the inside of the Football stadium, pay attention of the square structures with past players painted on those foundation structures. BOOMER SOONER!! Both TEXAS AND OU ARE READY....
Texas gave the SEC Champion, Alabama, their only loss, and Texas's only loss was to Oklahoma, so you tell us.
Texas fan here....TX and OU will be fine. As a matter of fact people are blowing the dominance of the SEC way out of proportion. Alabama and Georgia hardly meet in the regular season as it is whereas TX and OU meet every year in the Big 12. That is why the Big 12 was always successful versus the SEC during bowl season. Its only GA and Ala that is really a threat mixed in with a bunch of teams that are good but not championship contending teams.
Die hard Longhorn fan here. Look, we get it. Texas & Oklahoma coming to the SEC is going to cause some fan bases to want to lash out more. Like Josh said. There are teams in the SEC now who don't compete at the highest level each year for a variety of reasons. They will chant SEC and they're right. The SEC is, and has always been the best NCAAF conference hands down bar none. But, to make the assertion that nobody else from any other conference can come in and compete at the top is ludicrous. And, I see a lot of they'll be at the top right behind Georgia and Alabama. That's a bit presumptious as well. I'm not saying we will beat them every time, but they're not gonna come in and drop a number on us. And they will lose their share to us. Face reality, Texas is on a rocket trajectory upwards right now, and I can guarantee you Oklahoma will be soon enough. We are happy to finally be rid of the dumpster fire that is/was the Big 12. SEC...Hook'em!!!
I wouldn’t sweat it much, and it doesn’t sound like you are. I’m sure there’s plenty of folks with less than stellar sportsmanship willing to hope OU and Texas struggle when they get to the SEC. A few years ago I think it would’ve been tougher for both teams, but now it seems a natural transition rather than a jumping into the deep end of the pool. I for one am glad y’all are coming. I’m hopeful that y’all will help make the SEC stronger. I’m sure both programs are capable of making conference title runs as well. I’m a devout Bama fan and have been since the 70s, but I’m also an SEC fan and I’ll pull for Texas and OU now when they’re playing out of conference. Welcome aboard y’all !
RTR
@@skipgumphrey9579 well spoken, and a true gentile. My best friend lives in Moody Alabama and is a die hard Alabama fan. So for him, Roll Tide. Thanks.
Style makes fights…their will be an adjustment period for Texas and OU but give them a year or two and they’ll be in the mix for conference championships. Texas has already been transforming their O and D lines for the transition into the SEC.
Texas will do just fine in the SEC, and the overall level of play in the conference will IMPROVE with the addition of the Horns and Sooners
True. It will also raise the average GPA scores. Ha!
Everyone's misjudging this transition. It's not which single SEC team on the schedule are they most unequipped for. They're equipped for all of them actually. On the contrary, it's the war of attrition they'll need to prepare for. It's not who's going to get them first. It's how long can they maintain it until they empty their clips and realize there's still more games left to play.
The transition is going to be about depth and pacing. You can sleepwalk 8 weeks out of the year in the Big 12 and still leave with a win. Their capacity to manage their load is what they need to be training for, not who's going to be their first conference opponent loss.
People dont understand when Oklahoma comes into town, they'll officially have the 2nd most national championships behind Bama in the SEC, and its not really close. And Texas adds a name very few can match. Youre new top group in the SEC is Bama, Georgia, Oklahoma, Texas and LSU in no specific order. You can brag about your conference all you want but the majority of the SEC doesn't even touch the greatness of OU and Texas. Y'all think OU and Texas need to watch out for even the smalleat of SEC programs when the truth is you need to watch out for them. The only true blue blood the SEC has is BAMA and look how good that conference is. Now you have 2 more blue bloods coming in and theyre taking one of the big boys spots. Then you'll realize just who the SEC added.
OU has had one title in the last 40 years. That's hardly a relevant stat point to make your argument off of. Will both teams be fine, of course they will, but OU isn't going to be really good because they "have the second most titles next to Bama" when the vast majority of those titles came more than half a century ago.............
Not how that works
Yes they are the only other true blue bloods other than bama, it has been a while since the last national championship for OU but we are always a factor, more playoff appearances than any other team in the sec except bama.
As OU fan that loves college football. I shake my head a a tremendous amount of the comment. I watch as many games as possible. Stay up on recruiting on as many team as possible. With that being 5:31 said, the games still needs to played.. The wins and losses will fall on things we may not see until game time. The controllable parts are both trending up for TX and OU.
I don’t want to say this as an OU fan, TX is a power house of talent to equal any in the SEC. Will they use the talent to dominate 🤷🏻♀️ I don’t know. This talent is not TX of years gone by.
OU is not far behind on talent. However OU has enough to compete. History is in the past. OU is not a Lincoln R. team.. 2 and 1/2 year into a complete culture change. Who knows what will be OU’s future. OU has a tough schedule to play in 24.. 😮 Here in Oklahoma the fans are happy and excited.
I personally will never go out and make some over confident prediction.
All the games will have to be played. The coaching, preparations, injuries, health, talent, players. Referees, location, weather and fans will or can make a difference in each game..
For those thinking TX and OU are cup cakes. Hold on to you hats and watch the games.
Just saying
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As a Texas fan I agree, Sark was just a year ahead and I've been following OU recruiting also, STUDS coming to OU. Texas OU will do damn well years to come!
Well said
Spot on!
Texas will be fine right away. They're one of the best 4 teams in the country and this year won by double digits AT Alabama.
Oklahoma, they're going to have a bit more trouble. But it won't be permanent. Give them a year or two to get their recruiting up to speed, fully recover from the mess Lincoln Riley left behind, and they'll be in the mix.
Both OU and texas will win at least 9 games next year.
Right now, Alabama is sitting behind Texas 🤘🏼
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Sec gone be lit!
He’s talking to you Mizzou
I'm pretty sure OU has a winning record against most of the SEC teams.
Both Texas and OU have really good records against the SEC lol that's what I don't get??
Thank you!Im tired of the “guaranteed” 4-5 losses they have coming.
Yeah I agree that both Texas and OU will undoubtedly have a lot of success in the SEC. The only adjustment that they have to make that I think is worth talking about is the quantity of quality opponents that you have to play back to back some seasons. If your looking down a stretch where you have to play any mix of bama, Georgia, lsu, Tennessee, ole miss, even auburn or Florida can show up and surprise you
So yeah I think they can go toe to toe with any team individually, but on the season as a whole might be a little different than they’re used to
I agree partly because that may only apply to the veteran players that have a routine with the Big 12. Outside of them.. there are a lot of new kids and they’re the same as the SEC players, ya know? Like they don’t have Big 12 expectations. All these players that aren’t vets don’t have any expectations at all. So they’ll all have the same adjustments to make to physical and consistent play outside of high school. It’ll all wash out with the vets within a year or two. This isn’t the NFL where you have guys for 10-15 years.
@@thomasword9473 Yeah thats a good point, in a couple of seasons their players will have only ever known the SEC routine. You're totally right
@@ianking9 It’s gonna be interesting to see the first couple years how they adjust to playing tough teams throughout the conference schedule as opposed to playing Kansas and Oklahoma State… who we couldn’t beat this past year. Lol. Rather than only playing one really tough opponent in Texas.
Bama, Texas, Georgia, and LSU are gonna be the teams to fear in the SEC for a while with Ole Miss and OU not too far behind.
Lol 😂, you really going to put OU on a second tier? OU dominated the big 12 they will be just fine in the sec.
@@bigman5481 only cause I haven’t seen them play Georgia, Bama, or LSU recently and they just lost their QB1 to the portal. It’s nothing personal lmao
@@drummerboi15208 look at the recruiting ranks for the last 5 years and you will see ou and tx out recruit 90% of the sec. They have the players bro, just trying to help you out 👍🏾
Lol, Texas win one season and now they're in elite company?
It’s recently bias. Oklahoma has dominated. Texas just got better this year. I do think they’ll continue to stay good, though. Seems like they got the right coach this time and have always recruited well. OU just had 1 down adjustment year for BV and bounced back with great improvement year 2. Idk how BV’s tenure is gonna go. We don’t have a lot to go off of since he’s a 1st time head coach but history tells us Oklahoma has 7 National Championships and some crazy amount of conference titles. I’d give them the benefit of the doubt and place them top tier as well.
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Wait what?!!! Josh you haven't been to Norman yet? The Palace on the Prairie?! OMG you've got to rectify that situation next year....no question about it. You simply have to come to Norman!
And I love your take on this - that's exactly what I've been saying. SO many people think that SEC teams are just going to walk all over OU and TX simply because it's a new conference. That's fine - let them talk while they can cuz they'll disappear like a fart in the wind come next fall.
True Dat !!! Josh!! Playing in DKR is a Deafening experience and were used to croud noise of 102000 people screaming there ass's off!!
Texas has to play Oklahoma and Georgia back to back 🤕. Who made that schedule?
Bring it ON! 🤘
I just think it will be more of a grind in the sec than the bid 12. But all in all i dont think they will have too much trouble adjusting
As an OU fan im so excited. Yes winning the big 12, 6 times in a row was nice, but to be the best you have to play the best.
This is not the big 12 and for Texas playing wasn’t a cup cake when they played Arkansas and Texas got a taste of being in the Sec …..
Finally someone gets it
2:11 "But don't worry, because people you'll never met in your life will get to cash a bigger check in exchange for them being in the conference... SEC! SEC! SEC!"
😂 Exactly.. And I make a similar point to people who who rally around individual players making an insane amount of money at the detriment of their university or their own fanbase that provides the NIL funds. Like the fans of NFL who do the same thing.. "Get that bag. Get that bag. Cheapen the culture of my team. Cheapen the overall sport that I love. Get that bag. 🥴"
I've never understood how people can be so devoted to a conference. A conference. Teams? Sure. But, a conference? They don't even bother with any team outside of their little conference bubble. I know one SEC guy that refers to Ohio State as Ohio. He doesn't do it as an insult, but because he doesn't know any better....or care. He honestly believes a 6-6, 7-5 SEC team should be in the playoffs over a one loss or undefeated champions from other conferences. He's hardly the only one. It's ridiculous.
You are absolutely correct, Josh. However, the difference is in this conference, if you take a day off, you will usually get beat. It’s not like the Big 12 in that respect.
The topic in the video is how will TX and OK do in the SEC - they will do fine and recent results are relevant
Oklahoma will have a tougher time of it, just off of conference schedule. That being said, both should still finish in the top 5 or 6 at year's end.
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Josh Pate, The Palace on the Prairie awaits you.
Josh nails it at 5:00. There *will* be an adjustment period as those 2 great programs have to play Mississippi, Kentucky and Tennessee instead of Texas Tech, Baylor and West Virginia. That is the truth the SEC fans are right about, but clearly a lot of those fans are taking it too far - the Horns and Sooners are NOT going to get squished.
But part of this, Josh, is many Sooners and Horns think they WILL just waltz in and cruise - that they will not do. Win? Yes, absolutely. But even Alabama has to work to win the SEC and while the Horns and Sooners are above 2/3rds of the SEC, they ain't Bama or Georgia.
That being said, the only difference is what Josh says at 5:15. All they lack is experience playing an SEC schedule. They will adapt. LSU, Mississippi, Florida, Texas A&M and anyone else who wants to stay on Bama's tail - clock is ticking and it might take 2 years, maybe 3, but no longer than that.
I can’t speak for Texas fans but nobody on the OU side of the fence thinks we’re going to walk in and cruise
Also, EVERYONE wants to beat OU and Texas so we always get everyone’s best shot
@sonofthesOUth77 yeah, there are more teams like that in the SEC than the Big 12 so buckle up.
shit josh. loved this video so much i had to zip up my pants after. hook’em!
Things bout change for SEC new challenges more fun
Bro i want a Texas gymnastics team for the SEC. We could probably get Simone biles to coach too. Should be a fun move for us🤘
I think it's OU gymnastics that will raise the bar in the SEC, not Texas.
Lol Sooners have the better gymnastics program. Yall can have swimming...
Texas is going to be a beast next year, and the next year after that. OU I'm not so sure about
Lol OU just beat them....what?? Oklahoma beat 2 conference champs and the only team outside the top 4 that has beat a playoff team. They lost their 2 games at the last second by a combined 8 points. Lebby caused those losses and he's gone. They are recruiting with the best the SEC had to offer the last 3 cycles.....why can Texas suck for 15 years and gets put in Bama level status the second they have one goid year. Oklahoma has been in that level for 20 years but the second Lincoln left OU gets zero respect. Even aftwr Riley showed everyone hes a fraud they still look down on Oklahoma.
OU has never been Bama level. You have to Win and be in the Championship game year in year out. OU never has Defense@@TheBenzwanger
@@TheBenzwangerTexas beat themselves in that game.
@@TheBenzwanger Slow down there Cowboy! You make some good points, most of which I agree with. However, when you point out the fact that OU lost two games in the last seconds - lets also then say that Texas lost to OU with 1:30 left on the clock due to OU driving 75 yards to score a TD to win. All while Texas played the game with a 3rd string center and banged up in many positions forcing 2nd and 3rd stringers in play. Oh, that Texas lost was on a Neutral Field in a Terrific Rivalry, where anything can happen. Anything!!! As witnessed the last 20 years. While OU incurred a loss at Home. OU is going to be fine in The SEC. Texas is also. Stay Humble!!!
🤣 OU is gonna be just fine. The ‘Blue Bloods‘ ALL go through cycles of ups and downs. (And I think OU has THE best record of making those ‘down cycles‘ the shortest AND shallowest.) 🤘
EXCELLENT POINTS! BOOMER SOONER!!
I think the SEC grind will wear on both teams. OU and UT have seen quality teams with their schedules, however, i don't think they will be used to the week in and week out quality they will see in the SEC. Might take a couple of seasons to fully adjust.
As a OU fan born and raised in Oklahoma, I believe that we’ll do just fine in the SEC. Currently, I have lived in Georgia for 25yrs, and I’ll give the SEC their props!! However, what I don’t like is when SEC fans think that their Conference is greatest in CFB. I’m 53yrs old and I remember back then the SEC was not all that!! Also, if you look at the migration of people moving to Georgia after the Olympics has a lot to do with the SEC growing into what they are today. Plus, the Cost of Living (Housing) was much better down here as opposed to the North!!