I really like this one a lot. The whole concept reminds me of Meinl's byzance jazz and foundry reserve lines. Thin and wobbly but with great stick definition and not super loud. I find it really difficult to find cymbal makers that can balance those properties well (looking at you, Z)
Because "Z"s are overpriced crowd-pleaser "nice" cymbals. For interesting options and diversity, only real turkish cyms, for example Agops or Mehmets come to mind
Love it!! Sounds killer. That’s the sweet spot for me, glassy sound presenting with high’s on the stick definition with a low hum underneath and almost no mid-range. Cymbals like this sound like they’re being played with knitting needles. This is heavier than I would usually go for, but this is one of your all-time best creations, and that is saying a lot!!
Thanks Dominic! This design with a thinner weight (say around 2300g) would be really challenging to make without it being a total wash fest, but now that you say it, I wanna try it... 🤔
Timothy, that is one fine piece of work! The many tones and zones make this metal disk a true instrument. I have always wavered between your Lab and Tributary depending on my mood/ear for the day. It's really cool to see you grow and discover. Thanks for sharing the art.
It's a variation on one of my favorite cymbals in my collection, the 22" Hammerax Liquicy. The best of them actually were great rides and not just effect cymbals. There's a reason when these come up on ebay or Reverb, they are sccoped up witjin 24 hours. It's great to see the other enthisiastic comments below, becuase I suspect there is a demand for this... The Liquicy is SO wobbly it can be folded like a taco shell but goes right back into shape. I run mine without rivits. This is a great cymbal you've created. Please keep creating, and if you'd like to borrow my cymbal as part of your exploration, I'd be happy to send it (particualrly if you can semi-clone it for a commisssion as I'm scared to tour with the only one I'll likely ever have).
ohhhhhh I'm definitely interested! That would be amazing to get a good Hammerax in the shop for analyzation and making some in the same vein. Let's chat about it! My email is tim@reveriedrums.com
I love this cymbal! I have an Istanbul that's similar in shape but doesn't have the control that this one does. Even the bell is clear while not overwhelming. Beautiful job!
Oh man, that reminds me of a 22" K Con thin I played on at, of all places, a Guitar Center. It had that same ultra wobble and a lot of definition with a ton of wash. At the time though, I was shopping for something for rock and country gigs I was doing. I'd love to have something like that in my collection now. That's definitely something I'd be interested in. Actually, I have this weird old 22" Kent ride that has the right idea with the amount of trash but it loses definition after a bit of aggressive playing. Maybe someday I'll have you look at it.
Hey! I just launched a project called "redux" where I'm recreating this cymbal! Here's the link: reveriedrums.com/shop/p/redux-project-22-labyrinth-low
Incredible work! I really love this sound. I imagine you'll get a lot of requests for this! 20 years ago I saw Antonio Sanchez in a tiny club, and his main ride was Constantinople Medium-Thin Low (before he replaced it with an old K that had a huge chunk taken out of it). It had a sound very similar to this cymbal and probably similar specs (about 2400g and low profile). I loved the really low-pitched wash. But since his cymbal was a Z, it lacked your cymbal's complexity and control, so he put a whopping 7 squares of gaffer tape on the bottom. The tape was there in the small club, and it was there when he played in large venues with Pat Metheny. If he had your cymbal, he wouldn't have needed so much tape (but he likes a dry sound). I believe it had 2 rivets, which were great with the low wash and probably to ensure it didn't sound dead with all the tape.
@@ReverieDrumCo What I admire most about his playing is his ability to play very intensely at a very low volume. He has a level of control that so few drummers have. He has a wonderful musicality as well. I often like his sound (especially the old K), but he doesn't seem to want any amount of sustain!
Hey! I just launched a project called "redux" where I'm recreating this cymbal! Here's the link: reveriedrums.com/shop/p/redux-project-22-labyrinth-low
This one sold pretty quickly after I posted it. I’ve got multiple other similar ones in production now that I’ll hopefully get finished in the next month or so. I can't say, at this point, when exactly they'll be finished and what batch they'll be in. I have a commission product (reveriedrums.com/shop/p/ride-cymbal-commission) where you can order a ride and specify that you want it made as close to the 22" Labyrinth 2495g as possible. I have detailed notes on how this was made so I could definitely get very close on another one.
You need to save this as a prototype, for replicating that sound and feel. It kinda reminds me of my 50’s hollow-block Avedis. Except, that it suffers a slight keyholing
Yeah! I actually just launched a project called "redux" where I'm recreating this cymbal! Here's the link: reveriedrums.com/shop/p/redux-project-22-labyrinth-low
ua-cam.com/video/bOY2pQz-X_k/v-deo.htmlsi=JNdw1QsgkGyEBjAI that cymbal is a less dry version of this beauty. it’s funny.. you worked on a commission for me -where we were trying to replicate this old K - we may have to try again!! beautiful work bro! happy new year
I really like this one a lot. The whole concept reminds me of Meinl's byzance jazz and foundry reserve lines. Thin and wobbly but with great stick definition and not super loud. I find it really difficult to find cymbal makers that can balance those properties well (looking at you, Z)
Because "Z"s are overpriced crowd-pleaser "nice" cymbals. For interesting options and diversity, only real turkish cyms, for example Agops or Mehmets come to mind
Love it!! Sounds killer. That’s the sweet spot for me, glassy sound presenting with high’s on the stick definition with a low hum underneath and almost no mid-range. Cymbals like this sound like they’re being played with knitting needles. This is heavier than I would usually go for, but this is one of your all-time best creations, and that is saying a lot!!
Thanks Dominic! This design with a thinner weight (say around 2300g) would be really challenging to make without it being a total wash fest, but now that you say it, I wanna try it... 🤔
Yep I agree .
Smooth glassy tinny .
Yet Pingy with good stick
Wobbly played in sound .
I dig it
Timothy, that is one fine piece of work! The many tones and zones make this metal disk a true instrument. I have always wavered between your Lab and Tributary depending on my mood/ear for the day. It's really cool to see you grow and discover. Thanks for sharing the art.
I really like the cymbal. It's definitely a swing jazz type cymbal.
Great sound. I put in an order for one of the 22" pressed bell versions of this yesterday. Super excited to see how this turns out.
Awesome! I'll have an update for you soon!
It's a variation on one of my favorite cymbals in my collection, the 22" Hammerax Liquicy. The best of them actually were great rides and not just effect cymbals. There's a reason when these come up on ebay or Reverb, they are sccoped up witjin 24 hours. It's great to see the other enthisiastic comments below, becuase I suspect there is a demand for this... The Liquicy is SO wobbly it can be folded like a taco shell but goes right back into shape. I run mine without rivits. This is a great cymbal you've created. Please keep creating, and if you'd like to borrow my cymbal as part of your exploration, I'd be happy to send it (particualrly if you can semi-clone it for a commisssion as I'm scared to tour with the only one I'll likely ever have).
ohhhhhh I'm definitely interested! That would be amazing to get a good Hammerax in the shop for analyzation and making some in the same vein. Let's chat about it! My email is tim@reveriedrums.com
I love this cymbal! I have an Istanbul that's similar in shape but doesn't have the control that this one does. Even the bell is clear while not overwhelming. Beautiful job!
Timothy .. so impressive.. truly One of The Best You've Created !!!
Thank you!
This one is sounding absolutely terrific !!! I love everything about it
Timothy, as you know, I have a lot of vintage cymbals. My favs are all lower shaped. This is a FANTASTIC cymbal man!!!!
Thanks Brent!
Oh man, that reminds me of a 22" K Con thin I played on at, of all places, a Guitar Center. It had that same ultra wobble and a lot of definition with a ton of wash. At the time though, I was shopping for something for rock and country gigs I was doing. I'd love to have something like that in my collection now. That's definitely something I'd be interested in. Actually, I have this weird old 22" Kent ride that has the right idea with the amount of trash but it loses definition after a bit of aggressive playing. Maybe someday I'll have you look at it.
SO BEAUTIFUL! This kind of cymbal needs to be a series!!!
or a Labyrinth sub-series if nothing else
Yes, I think so!
Right on Tim. You're onto something!
That is an absolute Beaut!
That's the cymbal I've been searching for!
Hey! I just launched a project called "redux" where I'm recreating this cymbal! Here's the link:
reveriedrums.com/shop/p/redux-project-22-labyrinth-low
i really like the sound of this cymbal
Looking forward to watching you explore this profile of cymbal!!!
I will definitely be doing alot of exploring in this new zone.
Incredible. Mate, you’re making some world-class cymbals 👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you!
sounds absolutely fantastic !!
Oooo, sweet sounding pie Tim! Apparently, you are becoming quite the high level Cymbalsmith...Cheers!
Thanks!
Agree Tim..awesome! Great job...Merry Christmas to you and your family!!
Thanks! You too!
Sounds great! I have a 22 Sabian AA Apollo ride that wobbles like this one.
Incredible work! I really love this sound. I imagine you'll get a lot of requests for this! 20 years ago I saw Antonio Sanchez in a tiny club, and his main ride was Constantinople Medium-Thin Low (before he replaced it with an old K that had a huge chunk taken out of it). It had a sound very similar to this cymbal and probably similar specs (about 2400g and low profile). I loved the really low-pitched wash. But since his cymbal was a Z, it lacked your cymbal's complexity and control, so he put a whopping 7 squares of gaffer tape on the bottom. The tape was there in the small club, and it was there when he played in large venues with Pat Metheny. If he had your cymbal, he wouldn't have needed so much tape (but he likes a dry sound). I believe it had 2 rivets, which were great with the low wash and probably to ensure it didn't sound dead with all the tape.
Super cool. I love his playing!
@@ReverieDrumCo What I admire most about his playing is his ability to play very intensely at a very low volume. He has a level of control that so few drummers have. He has a wonderful musicality as well. I often like his sound (especially the old K), but he doesn't seem to want any amount of sustain!
Wow, I absolutely love this thing.
I need cymbal work............I love that one, like most of them!
Sounds similar to the one Brian Blade used in Kenny Garrrett's album 'Triology'. Great work by the way! Cheers from the Philippines.
Love that album!
Like a bass guitar string vibrating. So many parameters to explore. Thanks.
Yeah! It's like a flat ridey labyrinth.
I must have it.
Perfection
Very interesting indeed, I wouldn’t call it one dimensional at all!
Do you have more available? Where can I check the price of it?! Great job! And happy holidays!
Hey! I just launched a project called "redux" where I'm recreating this cymbal! Here's the link: reveriedrums.com/shop/p/redux-project-22-labyrinth-low
@ thanks for the link. I listened to it again and sounds phenomenal. I’ll get one in the future. Congrats on your work!
Daaaaaaaamn. i was tooooo slooooow
👌🔝Cool!!
Yo can I send you my cymbals to be worked on?
Sure thing! Check this link out: reveriedrums.com/shop/p/cymbal-modification
Is it for sale?
This one sold pretty quickly after I posted it. I’ve got multiple other similar ones in production now that I’ll hopefully get finished in the next month or so. I can't say, at this point, when exactly they'll be finished and what batch they'll be in. I have a commission product (reveriedrums.com/shop/p/ride-cymbal-commission) where you can order a ride and specify that you want it made as close to the 22" Labyrinth 2495g as possible. I have detailed notes on how this was made so I could definitely get very close on another one.
@@ReverieDrumCo What would a 22”same model and weight cymbal cost? Beautiful cymbal! You are a real artist!
You need to save this as a prototype, for replicating that sound and feel. It kinda reminds me of my 50’s hollow-block Avedis. Except, that it suffers a slight keyholing
Yeah! I actually just launched a project called "redux" where I'm recreating this cymbal! Here's the link:
reveriedrums.com/shop/p/redux-project-22-labyrinth-low
ua-cam.com/video/bOY2pQz-X_k/v-deo.htmlsi=JNdw1QsgkGyEBjAI
that cymbal is a less dry version of this beauty. it’s funny.. you worked on a commission for me -where we were trying to replicate this old K - we may have to try again!!
beautiful work bro!
happy new year
Ohhhh yeah maybe this in more in line with that old K sound!