Sleeping inside a vehicle in cold weather works well. On one freezing night, my wife and I slept inside our 03 4Runner with the car cover in place and we were very comfortable all night. In the morning there was ice all over the car cover but we never felt it. Others that slept in tents even with heaters woke up stiff and sore from a bad night's sleep.
I just got my first Outback yesterday. 2015 limited edition. I'm so pumped. Seeing these videos makes me want to take up off-roading! (as if my wife thinks I need another expensive hobby)
This is what I love about these Outback’s yes they’re not Jeeps with all the clearance in the world, but they’ll get you over just about most terrain that isn’t extreme & has good fuel economy to still be a daily commuter at 21 mpg which is amazing whereas your typical Jeep or truck on 35”-37” tires will barely get 12-13 mpg. I know you don’t get a offroad vehicle for fuel economy but these Outback’s prove to be pretty good in that department making it great for daily driving & hitting the trails to get to most areas you’d want to go.
Awesome set up! I live here in mesa and so true about the traffic. I picked up a Subaru forester last year and it is a lot of fun. After the lease has ended I am going with the LP adventure lift kit for it and you just sold me on that roof tent. For anyone considering a forester or outback it is a great commuter and weekend warrior. You wont be doing any rock crawling with it but it get you to those camp sites that you can get with a regular car.
Such an awesome build! I'm in a similar situation where I need a commuter vehicle but I'm also a professional landscape photographer who does a lot of photography in the deserts of Southern California. A vehicle like this would allow me to get to places too far to hike and where my current car simply can't go.
That’s exactly why I bought my 2015 Forester XT (turbo). Even though i drive 300 miles on dirt a year to go on my adventures, that only accounts for 1% of my overall driving. I run A/T’s (but OEM width) and got 25 mpg over 700 miles averaging 75-80mph with my car weighed down full of gear. When I was driving my FJ cruiser I’d average 16mpg.
Nice! Got 2.5L atmo without any rig and universal Yokohama Geolandar G91 tyres resulting in medium usage of 25.8 mpg with 25% highway, other is city and light runs into the wild every second weekends.
@@DarkNightmareUA yeah I'm running 2.5 na mainly highway like to set cruise to about 77. Yet run into traffic but am averaging 29. Love when you shut the car off it gives you your trip mpg. Have seen as great as 36 on some trips where I drove 45 min but never faster than 63
I have a 2013 Outback with the 4 cylinder and if I was to do this, I’d recommend the 3.6 liter. The 4 cylinder doesn’t have enough power with the larger wheels and weight of accessories to make it an effective off road vehicle. The torque isn’t there. However, if you only lifted it with larger tires, it would be pretty fun for an everyday off-road driver. Great video!
Agreed. We were going to do it to a 2013 but decided against it and then bought a 17 3.6R. Plus the rear wheel wells won't allow for the larger tires even with the lift. You have to make some major mods.
Here in Chile, the outback is mostly considered as a "stay at home mom/dad", very suburban and no off-road at all. But your video shows how amazing this car is with proper improvement. Currently I have a Impreza 2009 1.5 which has taken me basically everywhere I want. Next car is going to be either the XV (you know it as Crosstrek) or the outback and totally I'll get back to you to ask for ideas.
Half a year enjoying 2017 Forester 2.5L. At my country price for starter rims of both Forester and XV differs for 860$. But Forester is much spacy inside and in trunk while staying in measurments of usual SUVs. Plus 2.5L usual atmo engine is just fine for Forester and quite powerfull in general. Doing light offroad and flying low on highways on 190 km\h (easily reaches 200 km\h before red zone). Fuel consumption is configurable via variator modes. I preffer Sport in city and Intelligence on highway (Sport doesn't allow to drop RPM to variator, which is mostly a waste on highway, except for overtaking, which can be done with good-old kickdown in Intelligence mode). Got 11.4 liter per 100 km for this half a year and 6300 km total run (about 1800 km - highway, other - 1kk population city).
First saw the listing on Expedition Portal and found the link to your vid there--thanks for adding this video, what many of us imagine wanting to do with our subbies...appreciate the detailed nature of the info as well.
Check out readylift.com. They have a nice bolt on lift kit for around $399. I saw it done to a Forester with similar tires to what were in video...it was pretty bad ass!
Always glad to support a local. I'm also interested in the Outback as a commuter and small camping trips as well being that my main ride drinks gas like a fish drinks water lol. I've also taken a bunch of photos at the same spot that you showed your Rubicon.
@@JungleLoveOeOeO wow this was 6 years ago but since then i also had put on ko2 on my outback. I would agree they are definitely heavy and you feel it as well. But boyyyy the confidence they give you off road is priceless. I run a separate set of wheels for off roading so i take them off in the city when I'm not going to the wilderness
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@@andyc.564 Mostly because when I bought it, it was for commuting as much as exploring and manual and a clutch is just not favorable in bumper to bumper commuter traffic.
I've had Jeeps going back to a 69 Universal, and two full size Jeeps. I've had Toyota 4x4 pickups, both HiLux and a Tundra. My brother has had Broncos, Ford 4x4 pickups and Jeeps, including a Compass now. Wife is on her third Subaru (she went with a WRX this time), and daughter has a Forester. If I get the chance, I'll own a "glorified soccer mom" car like this one sooner rather than later. Nice job.
Really great build and strong argument for why he did it, only thing Im not a fan of is that 18-gauge brush guard. I wouldn't be surprised if more people are doing this kind of build in the next decade.
Just got my 2019 outback but opted for the 2.5 premium. Same wildness green colorway, has just about every option a premium can have as well. Love it. 2.5 is surprisingly good enough for me as well.
First of all, I had no problem hearing you! I was researching the BFG's on an Outback, when I spotted your video. My plan is to get a 2.5 Outback after the wheels on my Sportage fall off. I would love a Rubicon, but, being that I am a teacher in the Dallas suburbs, it is not only slightly outside my tax bracket, but I really have no practical use for one. Besides, I need the good MPG. The Outback allows one to get to a fishing hole, drive forest roads and still have an economical daily driver. I just wish they would have 16 inch wheels... I hate the 18 inch wheel and would opt for the 17 inch wheels instead. I am looking forward to watching more of your adventures.
Hey Scott....Great work on the channel and I love the RTX Gunmetals. Love 'em so much....just bought a set for my 2019 Outback 3.6 Limited. Keep the great videos coming. I just retired and am spending my time traveling out west in the dirt and rock (lol) . Thanks again !
@@4XPEDITION Scott...I am a long time pro photographer and I am taking my D5 and D850's on a little pleasure landscape trip.....Colorado (South-western) and eastern Utah. Been there many times, but my work always gets better as I spend more times in each spot. If you are out and see a white 2019 Limited with your wheels....say hello ! 😎
Thanks for the video. This makes me feel a lot better about my 3.6r purchase and what I have in mind for it. I've been really doubting my thoughts but this makes me feel better.
As far as the 6, best decision you could make. I've actually topped 31 mpg on straight hwy, holding at 55/60, cool enough out that I didn't need the AC. Otherwise, avg around 24 mostly urban in the summer, not so good in winter but warming it up for a few min on some of the very cold days, before I leave work. Good power and excellent passing power. I'm amazed they don't sell more 3.6's. Also a very smooth motor.
Epic build brother! The only regret I have on my outback build is the 4 Cyl. Struggles on the side of the mountain offloading. But we will push her to the limit!
So I just got a 2019 Subie, my 1st Subie ever and its a Green outback same color as this one! That looks like a pretty cool setup. Thinking about wheels and front end for now..awesome stuff
The Subie 3.6 will consistently outperform big ass V-8 4x4 Trucks in virtually any contest and you can drive them on the freeway and they handle like a car. With a lift kit the Subie is unbeatable. I know because I drove a V-8 hemi dodge that constantly spun the very big tires when off road and handled like a pig. I now have a '12 Subie 3.6 and the last year they had A REAL transmission, a 5 spd auto, not that CVT rubber band thing.
Hey those magical rubberbands kick ass! Different strokes for different folks I guess haha. A manual would still be awesome, but the subie really brings out the "work smarter not harder" mentality. I've yet to encounter any trail that my stock (excluding the God awful bridgestones) OB cant handle.
Wow it looks awesome. The color of the car with the color of the wheels is just perfect. This is my favorite color on the car - but I dont like that Subaru makes this exterior color only with white/ beige interior .... really nice - I will check out the rest of your videos
I have the 3.6r with the ivory leather and I hate the light colored leather. I'll never get a light colored interior ever again. Shows every mark and stain. Also, my jeans discolored the drivers seat so I have to use a seat cover. Other than that, I wish I had the $$$$ to do to my Outback what he did to his.
You can actually *dye the leather seat with leather dye almost any color since it is ivory colored* leather. That is a relatively easy job. Changing from a dark to a light color - impossible unless 'top coating' the leather.
I love the Outback! In fact I just got new KO2 that I will install this fall on my Mitsubishi Outlander 2016. They are 16inch though (215/70/R16) in one the manufacturer original specs. But I will certainly not lift my Outlander as I have a 8.5 inch of clearance that is enough for my needs. I can't wait to see how they will perform on the rough rocky roads this fall.
Awesum build. I have a 2011 that I'm lifting at the moment. Going to be adding most of what u have on there. Love the video and I agree , the Subaru is very capable
Love the look of your car. My wife has a 2010 2.5i and we've been talking lately about where to go with it since it is fully paid off and we do not want to take on another payment. The overall look of what you've done seems to be the direction we are leaning. We have the original factory roof rack that, for what it's worth I believe to be a Yakima with a factory re-branded fairing. Although I swapped out the rear swaybar with a factory STi bar off my old car, we get a lot of movement with the wind on the highway at speed. This makes the car feel a bit less stable but it's something that we've learned to live with. The concern is that if we go with a more aggressive tire like you have, we may have to consider a lift. Do you notice any difference in regards to stability with the added height? I know a wider tire would help, but the driveability is the greatest concern here since this is my wife's daily driver and our road trip vehicle. In fairness, I've not driven the newer models so there may be some difference in how your car may handle over ours, but this is still a greater consideration.
Ya, Phillipp, we chose the 3.6R for that reason. If you go larger tires you will need the lift. I don't really notice much performance lag with the larger offroad tires with the 3.6. I also experience no stability issues even with a rooftop tent aboard.
Didn't realize factory hitch is just good for bike racks. Just pre-ordered the outback Wilderness with the factory hitch, now I wonder if I should exclude that! Thanks for all your vids!
Pretty much. Took the Subaru over Engineers Pass in Colorado and thumped the underside several times. You can watch that on that episode of the channel. Cheers!
Great video. Is there a way that if your sleeping inside to have the windows down half way and keep the bugs out? Kids like a screen or mesh type thing?
Hey there. I use the factory rails right now. What I don't use is the factory crossbars. I hate front to back plastic rails and have considered removing them to lower my rooftop tent down by almost 3 inches which means then my car would fit in the garage even with the RTT on top. If you mean the crossbars, I removed those and then used what are called Yakima Landing Pads which mount to where the crossbars mounted to the rails. Then, I mounted Yakima towers to the landing pads. then ran the Yakima round crossbars and mounted the RTT to those round bars.
I have done the same to my 3.6r but curious as to where your extra clearance comes from. The lift only raises the body and you are only getting another half inch from the same size tires that I am using.Nice looking rig, you have!
Awesome video. Answers so many questions I had about this vehicle. 1 question though. How does the LP lift kit affect daily driving? I want to build a car that I can just pack gear into after work and head away for the weekend. The outback is looking more and more like a great base to work with.
It doesn't have any adverse effect at all. The All-Terrain tires bog a bit on the pavement but I have the 3.6R so it isn't all that noticeable. The ATs are loud, though on some types of pavement.
4XPEDITION thanks for the response. I currently have a TJ. I love it. But the lack of space, parts - I’m in Australia and petrol consumption make it a major hassle at times. Subaru’s are far more common, easier to find parts and the petrol consumption would be 1/2 of the TJ.
@@thelast5573 They are a great option. You don't get the clearance of a lifted TJ however, unless you do some major mods, which the Outback really isn't bult for. But, wow do Outbacks have the room inside and on top.
Thanks for the video. We thought about buying the 3.6R but chose the 2.5 for mpg. Sadly the most mpg we can get on the freeway with the cruise set on 75mph is 22 mpg. Yes it SUCKS. I’ve had a K&N intake installed and next I’ll have a HKS exhaust installed. We simply need more mpg. Even my Ranger 4X4 with the 4 liter gets 24 mpg on the freeway, but I did have a K&N intake and a Flowmaster exhaust installed which increased my freeway mileage from 19 to 24. Maybe a “freerer” exhaust will help our Outback.
@@4XPEDITION update, we added the K&N intake and a Borla exhaust. We’ve noticed more hp and torque plus we’re now getting 29.7 mpg on the freeway. I just added something else today, but my wife had to go to MT on a family 911, so we will see what happens.
i had a 2020..with AT tires from wildpeak, skid plates, and a skypbox on top and still got 28.5mpg. same car i towed a trailer 1800lbs 55mph i still got 28mpg
Twice. When offroad for some reason the system (when pushing the gas pedal) does nothing. It has done it twice. As in push it to the floor and the engine doesn't even rev. Not sure what it's doing when that has happened but it has been odd. In both situations, it was when I had been negotiating very rough rocky situations. Driving slowly or crawling so to speak. One of the times was coming down off Engineer's Pass route 18 into Ouray Co. A VERY rough stretch of high-clearance track.
Ok than I should be fine I just got the 2018 2.5 and was thinking of modifying it like yours but not as drastic since we don’t have much off roading here in MInnesota. Thanks for the heads up and love what you did.
Amazing Subaru build.. With the lift, did you upgrade sway bars to minimize the body roll? Also, how does the LP lift do with rough roads and corrugations in the road?
Hi there Kyle. If you haven't watched the more recent review video, be sure to watch that here > ua-cam.com/video/sMq5Q-JYbOg/v-deo.html To answer your questions though, the LP lift does great in my opinion. And, though the KO2 tires are pretty loud, they really have stood up to very rough road travel. (for example watch this video starting at 24:39 ua-cam.com/video/0GrZFt-sJVo/v-deo.html ). Note, I didnt add any sway bars. I haven't felt the need even with the RTT on top.
Thanks. Great mods to your Outback. Did you install the lift yourself or have it done? Just trying to get an idea of that over cost for that lift, tires and wheels.
Hi there Brian. Well, I wrote this article before it came out. 4xpedition.com/overland-subaru-outback-wilderness/ I haven't written an article since it came out. Take a read.
Can you into more detail about why you removed the factory hitch mount? I’m assuming you had to make some modifications to do so. Also, I’m curious as to why you chose Curt hitch? Is it better than OEM Subaru?
My Subaru didnt come with a 3" Class III hitch. It had a 1.5" So, I had to remove that one and added an aftermarket hitch. At the time, I didn't know Subuar offered a Class III hitch.
4XPEDITION Thanks. I was confused as to why you would need a Class III hitch, and if when installing it required extra drilling/mounting, but I see now that it is because you wanted the spare tire mount (as do I).... Love your videos, and respect the build.
Yes LT rated. I haven't had an issue, and there are many Subaru's that have been using the k02 since they first came out. I haven't read about issues if there are any. Sorry for not being more clear!
Stunning setup.. what is estimated cost to replicate build ? Does the front guard effect the front sensors for collision warning/adaptive cruise control
Would you feel comfortable hanging very much weight off if it? From what I can find on-line the max tongue weight of the car is only 200lb. Guessing that still applies even with a class 3 hitch.
Ya, it's loud. And the RTT is loud also if the ceiling slider is open on the sun roof.... meaning the sunroof is closed but the ceiling panel is open it's loud.
That is a good question. I have to be honest. I can't tell you that answer. I do have to say that with the 3.6R I don't notice any issues on performance even with the rooftop tent.
Nice job on the video. I've never owned a Subaru but this content is fascinating. Great job! Keep posting! Makes me re-think whether I should start looking at this automobile. Always wanted a Jeep, but with two young boys, their safety ratings are lackluster. (Also looking at the next-gen Countryman with a lift kit.) Have you ever owned any other "off-road" worthy (non-technical) cars? Oh - and a kind suggestion. I work in video production - find yourself a lav microphone and your audio will be much better!
Thanks! I was just told the same thing about the mic by my friend that is a professional in the film business. I am on it because I have been exceedingly frustrated with the shotgun mic set up. I have had 3 Jeep Rubicons, a Toyota 4-Runner, a Landrover Discovery, and this Subaru outback. I never had a problem with the Jeep and safety other than one occassion where I didn't rotate the 35" mud terrain tires often enough and they got an uneven wear and that resulted in what they call the Death Wobble. You only want to experience that once going 65 to know exactly how important it is to rotate tires. I think your decision should be based on what you intend to use the vehicle for, how many people you intend to not only transport but camp with, how much gear you intend to bring and if the sleeping will be in, on or next to the vehicle. Appreciate the comments James!
Watching this again 3 years later and I think the new Outback Wilderness took some cues from ya! Amazing build!
Subaru Ambassador here! Love what you have done with the outback! Keep the videos coming I am sharing this around to all the groups.
Sleeping inside a vehicle in cold weather works well. On one freezing night, my wife and I slept inside our 03 4Runner with the car cover in place and we were very comfortable all night. In the morning there was ice all over the car cover but we never felt it. Others that slept in tents even with heaters woke up stiff and sore from a bad night's sleep.
I just got my first Outback yesterday. 2015 limited edition. I'm so pumped. Seeing these videos makes me want to take up off-roading! (as if my wife thinks I need another expensive hobby)
Be sure to watch some of the newer videos. This one is pretty old, now on the channel.
This is what I love about these Outback’s yes they’re not Jeeps with all the clearance in the world, but they’ll get you over just about most terrain that isn’t extreme & has good fuel economy to still be a daily commuter at 21 mpg which is amazing whereas your typical Jeep or truck on 35”-37” tires will barely get 12-13 mpg. I know you don’t get a offroad vehicle for fuel economy but these Outback’s prove to be pretty good in that department making it great for daily driving & hitting the trails to get to most areas you’d want to go.
Awesome set up! I live here in mesa and so true about the traffic. I picked up a Subaru forester last year and it is a lot of fun. After the lease has ended I am going with the LP adventure lift kit for it and you just sold me on that roof tent. For anyone considering a forester or outback it is a great commuter and weekend warrior. You wont be doing any rock crawling with it but it get you to those camp sites that you can get with a regular car.
Such an awesome build! I'm in a similar situation where I need a commuter vehicle but I'm also a professional landscape photographer who does a lot of photography in the deserts of Southern California. A vehicle like this would allow me to get to places too far to hike and where my current car simply can't go.
Yes it would!
That’s exactly why I bought my 2015 Forester XT (turbo). Even though i drive 300 miles on dirt a year to go on my adventures, that only accounts for 1% of my overall driving.
I run A/T’s (but OEM width) and got 25 mpg over 700 miles averaging 75-80mph with my car weighed down full of gear. When I was driving my FJ cruiser I’d average 16mpg.
Nice! Got 2.5L atmo without any rig and universal Yokohama Geolandar G91 tyres resulting in medium usage of 25.8 mpg with 25% highway, other is city and light runs into the wild every second weekends.
@@DarkNightmareUA yeah I'm running 2.5 na mainly highway like to set cruise to about 77. Yet run into traffic but am averaging 29. Love when you shut the car off it gives you your trip mpg. Have seen as great as 36 on some trips where I drove 45 min but never faster than 63
That's one heck of a Subaru! Very impressive
Thank you!
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Can you answer my question above, please.
@@4XPEDITION Interested in going down the Subaru route, what year is this? 2018?
I have a 2013 Outback with the 4 cylinder and if I was to do this, I’d recommend the 3.6 liter. The 4 cylinder doesn’t have enough power with the larger wheels and weight of accessories to make it an effective off road vehicle. The torque isn’t there. However, if you only lifted it with larger tires, it would be pretty fun for an everyday off-road driver. Great video!
Agreed. We were going to do it to a 2013 but decided against it and then bought a 17 3.6R. Plus the rear wheel wells won't allow for the larger tires even with the lift. You have to make some major mods.
The 3.6 is still anemic. You shouldn't put this much weight on your wheels.
Bought a 4runner for overloading. Pretty sure this vehicle would take me every where i would need to go. Nice build
Here in Chile, the outback is mostly considered as a "stay at home mom/dad", very suburban and no off-road at all. But your video shows how amazing this car is with proper improvement. Currently I have a Impreza 2009 1.5 which has taken me basically everywhere I want. Next car is going to be either the XV (you know it as Crosstrek) or the outback and totally I'll get back to you to ask for ideas.
Awesome Hector! Love that you checked in from Chile and look forward to seeing your XV build! Let us know if you need some advice.
Half a year enjoying 2017 Forester 2.5L. At my country price for starter rims of both Forester and XV differs for 860$. But Forester is much spacy inside and in trunk while staying in measurments of usual SUVs. Plus 2.5L usual atmo engine is just fine for Forester and quite powerfull in general. Doing light offroad and flying low on highways on 190 km\h (easily reaches 200 km\h before red zone). Fuel consumption is configurable via variator modes. I preffer Sport in city and Intelligence on highway (Sport doesn't allow to drop RPM to variator, which is mostly a waste on highway, except for overtaking, which can be done with good-old kickdown in Intelligence mode). Got 11.4 liter per 100 km for this half a year and 6300 km total run (about 1800 km - highway, other - 1kk population city).
First saw the listing on Expedition Portal and found the link to your vid there--thanks for adding this video, what many of us imagine wanting to do with our subbies...appreciate the detailed nature of the info as well.
Awesome! Glad to share!
Could you do a video on what you pack in the Outback for your camping trips? THANKS
I love Subaru, I've had 3. I'd love to do something similar to my 2018 Forester. Since 95% of the time I'll be on prepared roads. Fun vehicle.
Do it!
Check out readylift.com. They have a nice bolt on lift kit for around $399. I saw it done to a Forester with similar tires to what were in video...it was pretty bad ass!
Always glad to support a local. I'm also interested in the Outback as a commuter and small camping trips as well being that my main ride drinks gas like a fish drinks water lol. I've also taken a bunch of photos at the same spot that you showed your Rubicon.
Welcome, James!
those wheels/tires look awesome on this car
Thanks!
They're way too heavy
@@JungleLoveOeOeO wow this was 6 years ago but since then i also had put on ko2 on my outback. I would agree they are definitely heavy and you feel it as well. But boyyyy the confidence they give you off road is priceless.
I run a separate set of wheels for off roading so i take them off in the city when I'm not going to the wilderness
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Why not go with the manual transmission?
@@andyc.564 Mostly because when I bought it, it was for commuting as much as exploring and manual and a clutch is just not favorable in bumper to bumper commuter traffic.
I've had Jeeps going back to a 69 Universal, and two full size Jeeps. I've had Toyota 4x4 pickups, both HiLux and a Tundra. My brother has had Broncos, Ford 4x4 pickups and Jeeps, including a Compass now. Wife is on her third Subaru (she went with a WRX this time), and daughter has a Forester. If I get the chance, I'll own a "glorified soccer mom" car like this one sooner rather than later. Nice job.
Awesome Roger!
Really great build and strong argument for why he did it, only thing Im not a fan of is that 18-gauge brush guard. I wouldn't be surprised if more people are doing this kind of build in the next decade.
Hey Scott, now that I have found your videos, I am even more excited to modify my Crosstrek!!!!!......your neighbor, Morris!!!
Dig it Morris!! Glad you found the vids!
Just got my 2019 outback but opted for the 2.5 premium. Same wildness green colorway, has just about every option a premium can have as well. Love it. 2.5 is surprisingly good enough for me as well.
Awesome!
First of all, I had no problem hearing you!
I was researching the BFG's on an Outback, when I spotted your video. My plan is to get a 2.5 Outback after the wheels on my Sportage fall off. I would love a Rubicon, but, being that I am a teacher in the Dallas suburbs, it is not only slightly outside my tax bracket, but I really have no practical use for one. Besides, I need the good MPG. The Outback allows one to get to a fishing hole, drive forest roads and still have an economical daily driver. I just wish they would have 16 inch wheels... I hate the 18 inch wheel and would opt for the 17 inch wheels instead.
I am looking forward to watching more of your adventures.
Awesome, Jim! Glad to have you with us here on the 4X channel! All points noted!
Hey Scott....Great work on the channel and I love the RTX Gunmetals. Love 'em so much....just bought a set for my 2019 Outback 3.6 Limited.
Keep the great videos coming. I just retired and am spending my time traveling out west in the dirt and rock (lol) . Thanks again !
Awesome RD! Where are you headed?
@@4XPEDITION Scott...I am a long time pro photographer and I am taking my D5 and D850's on a little pleasure landscape trip.....Colorado (South-western) and eastern Utah. Been there many times, but my work always gets better as I spend more times in each spot. If you are out and see a white 2019 Limited with your wheels....say hello ! 😎
Thanks for the video. This makes me feel a lot better about my 3.6r purchase and what I have in mind for it. I've been really doubting my thoughts but this makes me feel better.
As far as the 6, best decision you could make. I've actually topped 31 mpg on straight hwy, holding at 55/60, cool enough out that I didn't need the AC.
Otherwise, avg around 24 mostly urban in the summer, not so good in winter but warming it up for a few min on some of the very cold days, before I leave work. Good power and excellent passing power. I'm amazed they don't sell more 3.6's. Also a very smooth motor.
I've got a 2013 that consumes oil. Probably gonna trade it in for a later year though
Short box double cab Tacoma, no questions, no bs!
dig tacos, really.
Epic build brother! The only regret I have on my outback build is the 4 Cyl. Struggles on the side of the mountain offloading. But we will push her to the limit!
Thanks Tristan. If you haven't watched the more recent walk around video check this one out. ua-cam.com/video/sMq5Q-JYbOg/v-deo.html
So I just got a 2019 Subie, my 1st Subie ever and its a Green outback same color as this one! That looks like a pretty cool setup. Thinking about wheels and front end for now..awesome stuff
Cool!!
The Subie 3.6 will consistently outperform big ass V-8 4x4 Trucks in virtually any contest and you can drive them on the freeway and they handle like a car. With a lift kit the Subie is unbeatable. I know because I drove a V-8 hemi dodge that constantly spun the very big tires when off road and handled like a pig. I now have a '12 Subie 3.6 and the last year they had A REAL transmission, a 5 spd auto, not that CVT rubber band thing.
Hey those magical rubberbands kick ass! Different strokes for different folks I guess haha. A manual would still be awesome, but the subie really brings out the "work smarter not harder" mentality. I've yet to encounter any trail that my stock (excluding the God awful bridgestones) OB cant handle.
I have a ‘13 3.6r with a 5 speed as well. Very smooth vehicle on the highway and city traffic, tons of power.
The CVT has been incredibly smooth and quiet for me. Handles fine through mountain passes, no hiccups. 121k on a 2011.
Great thing about Subaru's. They're parts from other cars link up like Legos. Want brakes and 6-Speed Manual from the STI? Can do!
2014 was the last year of the 5eat
Wow it looks awesome. The color of the car with the color of the wheels is just perfect. This is my favorite color on the car - but I dont like that Subaru makes this exterior color only with white/ beige interior .... really nice - I will check out the rest of your videos
Jerry Pan you can get touring version, comes with brown leather
I have the 3.6r with the ivory leather and I hate the light colored leather. I'll never get a light colored interior ever again. Shows every mark and stain. Also, my jeans discolored the drivers seat so I have to use a seat cover. Other than that, I wish I had the $$$$ to do to my Outback what he did to his.
You can actually *dye the leather seat with leather dye almost any color since it is ivory colored* leather. That is a relatively easy job. Changing from a dark to a light color - impossible unless 'top coating' the leather.
Who made covers under the engine and oil pan, good job.
LPAventure
Just got a 2020 outback onyx xt. Im so excited
Rock on Spike!
Wish Subaru made a kombi/minibus type vehicle. That would be the ultimate Subaru!!
Right? All wheel drive high roof compact camper. I'd probably be in on that.
@@4XPEDITION You can get a JDM mitsubishi delica.
NOTICE! This is an old video. Be sure to watch the latest walk around video of this Outback at ua-cam.com/video/sMq5Q-JYbOg/v-deo.html
I love the Outback! In fact I just got new KO2 that I will install this fall on my Mitsubishi Outlander 2016. They are 16inch though (215/70/R16) in one the manufacturer original specs. But I will certainly not lift my Outlander as I have a 8.5 inch of clearance that is enough for my needs. I can't wait to see how they will perform on the rough rocky roads this fall.
That is an absolutely beautiful build. Just perfect.
Thanks, Daniel!
Beautiful vehicle. And perfect for the needs of "most" overlanders, as you stated.
Awesum build. I have a 2011 that I'm lifting at the moment. Going to be adding most of what u have on there. Love the video and I agree , the Subaru is very capable
Nice! And thanks!!
Love the look of your car. My wife has a 2010 2.5i and we've been talking lately about where to go with it since it is fully paid off and we do not want to take on another payment. The overall look of what you've done seems to be the direction we are leaning. We have the original factory roof rack that, for what it's worth I believe to be a Yakima with a factory re-branded fairing. Although I swapped out the rear swaybar with a factory STi bar off my old car, we get a lot of movement with the wind on the highway at speed. This makes the car feel a bit less stable but it's something that we've learned to live with. The concern is that if we go with a more aggressive tire like you have, we may have to consider a lift. Do you notice any difference in regards to stability with the added height? I know a wider tire would help, but the driveability is the greatest concern here since this is my wife's daily driver and our road trip vehicle. In fairness, I've not driven the newer models so there may be some difference in how your car may handle over ours, but this is still a greater consideration.
Ya, Phillipp, we chose the 3.6R for that reason. If you go larger tires you will need the lift. I don't really notice much performance lag with the larger offroad tires with the 3.6. I also experience no stability issues even with a rooftop tent aboard.
Didn't realize factory hitch is just good for bike racks. Just pre-ordered the outback Wilderness with the factory hitch, now I wonder if I should exclude that! Thanks for all your vids!
Hi Nick. I am not sure what the wilderness comes standard with. It may come with a class 3. You would have to verify that.
Have you given the skid plates a good thump yet? Wondering how they hold up.
Pretty much. Took the Subaru over Engineers Pass in Colorado and thumped the underside several times. You can watch that on that episode of the channel. Cheers!
Mate!
Loved our style and ride .... top work
How did you calibrate the speedometer for the bigger wheels and tires?
Do you get a lot of wind noise with the rooftop tent
No not really.
In the market for a used Outback and I am local to you. Will definitely be keeping up with your posts, blogs and vlogs. Thanks for the content!
You bet Dean!
My dad just got a crosstrek and im super surprised with the amount of off road goodies available for it!
Wow what a build!
Thank you!
Awesome car and the colour is spot on
Cooper Discovery stt's triple band including sidewall protection.used BF in Australia and they didn't last long
Australia is a tough environment.
Great video. Is there a way that if your sleeping inside to have the windows down half way and keep the bugs out? Kids like a screen or mesh type thing?
Yes. Amazon sells a product that are screen inserts.
Can you give me the information on how you swapped the factory roof rails for what you have now?
Hey there. I use the factory rails right now. What I don't use is the factory crossbars. I hate front to back plastic rails and have considered removing them to lower my rooftop tent down by almost 3 inches which means then my car would fit in the garage even with the RTT on top. If you mean the crossbars, I removed those and then used what are called Yakima Landing Pads which mount to where the crossbars mounted to the rails. Then, I mounted Yakima towers to the landing pads. then ran the Yakima round crossbars and mounted the RTT to those round bars.
Love the rig! Good info...
I hate the 101 traffic these days!
I have done the same to my 3.6r but curious as to where your extra clearance comes from. The lift only raises the body and you are only getting another half inch from the same size tires that I am using.Nice looking rig, you have!
Did the 2” lift have any effects on the eyesight system?
Nope!
Now that is the perfect setup! Thanks for the great review and video! Your the man!! I’m subscribing!
Be sure to check out the 3-year review walk around video that is much better produced and even more detail. ua-cam.com/video/sMq5Q-JYbOg/v-deo.html
Really cool Outback. Quite rugged.
Thanks!
Nice rig! I can't want to get some Ko2s for my 2020 outback
You should!
Very Impressive build, especially with the limited size, Love it
Awesome video. Answers so many questions I had about this vehicle. 1 question though. How does the LP lift kit affect daily driving? I want to build a car that I can just pack gear into after work and head away for the weekend. The outback is looking more and more like a great base to work with.
It doesn't have any adverse effect at all. The All-Terrain tires bog a bit on the pavement but I have the 3.6R so it isn't all that noticeable. The ATs are loud, though on some types of pavement.
4XPEDITION thanks for the response. I currently have a TJ. I love it. But the lack of space, parts - I’m in Australia and petrol consumption make it a major hassle at times. Subaru’s are far more common, easier to find parts and the petrol consumption would be 1/2 of the TJ.
@@thelast5573 They are a great option. You don't get the clearance of a lifted TJ however, unless you do some major mods, which the Outback really isn't bult for. But, wow do Outbacks have the room inside and on top.
Great build, would be good if you did a comparison video for Overlanding vs your Jeep
Good idea!
Thanks for the video.
We thought about buying the 3.6R but chose the 2.5 for mpg. Sadly the most mpg we can get on the freeway with the cruise set on 75mph is 22 mpg. Yes it SUCKS.
I’ve had a K&N intake installed and next I’ll have a HKS exhaust installed. We simply need more mpg.
Even my Ranger 4X4 with the 4 liter gets 24 mpg on the freeway, but I did have a K&N intake and a Flowmaster exhaust installed which increased my freeway mileage from 19 to 24.
Maybe a “freerer” exhaust will help our Outback.
Maybe. My 3.6 did pretty well even with all the extra accessory weight and loaded with gear and offroad tires.
@@4XPEDITION update, we added the K&N intake and a Borla exhaust. We’ve noticed more hp and torque plus we’re now getting 29.7 mpg on the freeway.
I just added something else today, but my wife had to go to MT on a family 911, so we will see what happens.
I got the same Woolrich blanket! Everything else I'm still researching for my Sue-Bee!
Hi did you notice any difference to the eye sight system since getting it lifted thanks
none. I have my tire carrier and gas can covering the rear camera is all.
Thanks
Great Video! Did you recalibrate your speedo after installing the larger diameter tires? Thx! Sean
Yep!
i had a 2020..with AT tires from wildpeak, skid plates, and a skypbox on top and still got 28.5mpg. same car i towed a trailer 1800lbs 55mph i still got 28mpg
jdm af with the cusco tow hook
I don't have a winch on my 2018 JL Wrangler, so in the backcountry, when I go alone.. I bring an 8,000 pound capacity come along, with tow ropes..
Does your CVT ever give you any issues?
Twice. When offroad for some reason the system (when pushing the gas pedal) does nothing. It has done it twice. As in push it to the floor and the engine doesn't even rev. Not sure what it's doing when that has happened but it has been odd. In both situations, it was when I had been negotiating very rough rocky situations. Driving slowly or crawling so to speak. One of the times was coming down off Engineer's Pass route 18 into Ouray Co. A VERY rough stretch of high-clearance track.
Ok than I should be fine I just got the 2018 2.5 and was thinking of modifying it like yours but not as drastic since we don’t have much off roading here in MInnesota. Thanks for the heads up and love what you did.
Oh, sure. You shouldn't have problems.
And... I was just in Minnesota! Check out the boundary waters episode on our channel!
Do you leave the tires you have on all year round or do you have another set that you change when you go off road?
Hi. I have the stock wheels and tires in storage but I don't use them. I keep the K02s on.
Amazing Subaru build.. With the lift, did you upgrade sway bars to minimize the body roll? Also, how does the LP lift do with rough roads and corrugations in the road?
Hi there Kyle. If you haven't watched the more recent review video, be sure to watch that here > ua-cam.com/video/sMq5Q-JYbOg/v-deo.html To answer your questions though, the LP lift does great in my opinion. And, though the KO2 tires are pretty loud, they really have stood up to very rough road travel. (for example watch this video starting at 24:39 ua-cam.com/video/0GrZFt-sJVo/v-deo.html ). Note, I didnt add any sway bars. I haven't felt the need even with the RTT on top.
Is the thermal insulator an option for the tent? Or is that tent just not built for cold climate?
Hey. Check out this video to answer your questions about the tent. ua-cam.com/video/tJLxgKBOd0s/v-deo.html
How did you get the extra license plate that is mounted on the spare tire?
They sent me two. Not sure if that was a mistake or not.
What did the lift cost you?
The lift itself was around $700.
Thanks. Great mods to your Outback. Did you install the lift yourself or have it done? Just trying to get an idea of that over cost for that lift, tires and wheels.
Had it done, thanks!
I have a 2015 Outback 3.6 and would like to do the lift, wheels and tires. What was the approximate cost start to finish?
You could probably estimate about $5k give or take including labor.
@@user-cy7px1lw8u thank you.
Ya, I agree with SurchX... that is pretty close.
I want to do this to a wrx hatchback.
Did you have any rubbing on your tires?
None
What is your opinion of the new Subaru Wilderness?
Hi there Brian. Well, I wrote this article before it came out. 4xpedition.com/overland-subaru-outback-wilderness/ I haven't written an article since it came out. Take a read.
@@4XPEDITION many thanks and what an informative article you wrote.
Wow Outback all gear. I like the wheel that goes on the back.
I like how you shoot the video into the sun on some of the segments. Nice video tho, good job! 👍
Can you into more detail about why you removed the factory hitch mount?
I’m assuming you had to make some modifications to do so.
Also, I’m curious as to why you chose Curt hitch? Is it better than OEM Subaru?
My Subaru didnt come with a 3" Class III hitch. It had a 1.5" So, I had to remove that one and added an aftermarket hitch. At the time, I didn't know Subuar offered a Class III hitch.
4XPEDITION Thanks. I was confused as to why you would need a Class III hitch, and if when installing it required extra drilling/mounting, but I see now that it is because you wanted the spare tire mount (as do I)....
Love your videos, and respect the build.
Can the roof mints support more than 150lbs
Yes. In invite you to scroll through the comments to learn more. Best.
good vid! looking to do something similar, too bad the only manual is the crosstrek
CrossTrek is a cool vehicle... but you gotta curl up in a ball if you want to sleep in the back.
Sweet build . Looks awesome
after watching this i waited two years finally got my outback yes now where do I begin.
Now you are there! Take your time and do it right.
I want one now.
Are the BFG’s LT rated? If so, isn’t the weight an issue?
No sir.
Lol! You answered which question?
Yes LT rated. I haven't had an issue, and there are many Subaru's that have been using the k02 since they first came out. I haven't read about issues if there are any. Sorry for not being more clear!
Stunning setup.. what is estimated cost to replicate build ? Does the front guard effect the front sensors for collision warning/adaptive cruise control
Front guard does not effect the sensors. Without the rooftop tent, Add $5-6k to your vehicle.
Awesome thanks for the response. If wanted this setup how/where do u go
Where are you located @@anthonysantamarina8117?
4XPEDITION located in Portland Oregon
I just bought a gen 2 Forester, love it but man o man, the range really sucks. Maybe 500 kilometers to a tanks of fuel, at most..
Where do you live?
@@4XPEDITION Rocky Mountains, Canada
@@JimmyMeatwhistle You have stock light truck tires on it or ATs?
@@JimmyMeatwhistle Google says 481 mile range for the forester. That's what, 775K ish? 500k seems pretty low.
@@4XPEDITION lucky to get 481 kilometers per tank. did lots of research and that seems to be normal for the 2.5L
Want to do this to my outback really bad thanks for the info
Be sure to check out the latest video walk around of this Subaru. ua-cam.com/video/sMq5Q-JYbOg/v-deo.html
What roof rack are you using?
Yakima
4XPEDITION which ones in particular? I’m looking to get some for my outback before I buy a rooftop tent
Nice looking Outback! This is exactly what I'm looking to do. Any idea what the max tongue weight is with the hitch setup you have?
Thanks! It's a class 3 hitch. Tongue weight is 525lb. The weight carrying capacity is 3,500lb. Here's a link to em. amzn.to/2KU81CH
Would you feel comfortable hanging very much weight off if it? From what I can find on-line the max tongue weight of the car is only 200lb. Guessing that still applies even with a class 3 hitch.
Great looking Scubby Doo. Wouldn't look out of place here in Southwest Country Victoria Australia. Now that's a idea. Enjoy.
Would fit right in!
What about road noise from the tires?
Ya, it's loud. And the RTT is loud also if the ceiling slider is open on the sun roof.... meaning the sunroof is closed but the ceiling panel is open it's loud.
What size wider tires can you install without having to install a lift kit ?? Trying to keep the budget down but still get some all terrain tires.
Great video SUB'ed... I have almost the exact LP build out you do love it so far cant wait to start doing some camping with it!!!
Awesome! Get out there!!
Do they have a snorkel available for this generation outback?
Honestly not sure. I haven't researched that.
How is the ride holding up? Any mechanical issues ?
If you haven’t already, go on my channel and watch the three-year review walk around video.
how much weight does this add?
That is a good question. I have to be honest. I can't tell you that answer. I do have to say that with the 3.6R I don't notice any issues on performance even with the rooftop tent.
Nice job on the video. I've never owned a Subaru but this content is fascinating. Great job! Keep posting! Makes me re-think whether I should start looking at this automobile. Always wanted a Jeep, but with two young boys, their safety ratings are lackluster. (Also looking at the next-gen Countryman with a lift kit.) Have you ever owned any other "off-road" worthy (non-technical) cars? Oh - and a kind suggestion. I work in video production - find yourself a lav microphone and your audio will be much better!
Thanks! I was just told the same thing about the mic by my friend that is a professional in the film business. I am on it because I have been exceedingly frustrated with the shotgun mic set up.
I have had 3 Jeep Rubicons, a Toyota 4-Runner, a Landrover Discovery, and this Subaru outback. I never had a problem with the Jeep and safety other than one occassion where I didn't rotate the 35" mud terrain tires often enough and they got an uneven wear and that resulted in what they call the Death Wobble. You only want to experience that once going 65 to know exactly how important it is to rotate tires. I think your decision should be based on what you intend to use the vehicle for, how many people you intend to not only transport but camp with, how much gear you intend to bring and if the sleeping will be in, on or next to the vehicle. Appreciate the comments James!
How does this build handle in the snow?
Have only run it in snow once and it wasn't deep enough to get a good feel. Will let you know when I do.