TEAL'S BTS FOOTAGE...DOES THIS CHANGE EVERYTHING? | Reaction to Episode 4
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I’d really like to ask one of teals inner circle members, “so what knowledge or wisdom have you garnered through devoting your life to her? Was it worth the exchange of your own personal life?”
Teal comes off as defensive and very, VERY angry.
whats wrong with anger?
Right. That proves things. None of us would feel defensive or angry after a documentary about us being edited so manipulatively as this video shows it was. I feel so relieved that I don't have to use my brain anymore, I just have to point a tone of voice or facial expression to see all my biases confirmed.
@@leonesytigresyosos2695 😂😂😂well said 😀
Teal is a creepy cult leader, but also the documentary makers lack integrity. Both things can be true, as the saying goes
After seeing how they edited things, it's clear that the makers of the documentary are maliciously manipulative, yet nobody calls them out for it. I think that maybe Teal has never been fully right in the head and the type of work she did with those groups is the typical unhealthy New Age dive into fantasy, and opening up to strangers and 'spiritual therapists' too much. But the sociopath image that the documentary builds on her becomes extremely uncertain after seeing how they edited things. The documentary just can't be trusted after seeing the unedited stuff.
Exactly, they mixed truth with falsehood making the nuance more challenging to dissect, but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t some truth to what they presented in the documentary. Teal provides some self-help material but clearly displays holding some childhood trauma that is projected as self-centeredness and the form of aversion to close parental relationships. This could have serious repercussions for those who are infatuated with Teal’s persona and follow her devoutly.
Well based on teal swans philosophies, if she wasn’t a vibrational match to being manipulated then it wouldn’t have happened🤷♀️
bingo. "do as i say not do as i do"
That is very good 😂
If they don’t live in a commune then why would an inner circle member having a child keep Teal awake at night?
I agree it’s unethical for the crew to likely suck up to her in order to get the footage they need, but at the same time, her inner circle is a cult. Teal has caused some major harm, so I can overlook the ethics issue to help get the word out about real.
Yeah, my issue is the actual changes made to the way things went. With just that one conversation, those who weren't already aware of Teal have reason to doubt those of us with legitimate issues with her
It goes beyond just her inner circle. Her casual fans who just watch some of her videos, no. But people who become avid fans, yes. I used to be a part of it so I know from experience. “Teal tribe” as we were called, many people burned a lot of people, I saw it first hand. I wasn’t one of them but I got away from it in my own. Do some research on it. There a number of people who have touched upon it on UA-cam alone.
She needs to be exposed! Simple as. I am immensely grateful for these documentarians, they did their job. If anything was creatively edited the only downside is it gives ms cult leader ammunition to try and continue to obscure the truth.
The Mormon Stories podcast interviewed her childhood best friend. TOTALLY worth the watch.
Seconding this! I had only known of Teal’s name and that she had some sort of odd, brainwashed cult following prior to watching that episode, but hoooooly cow 🙃 I wasn’t expecting anything that her former friend spoke about. She was incredibly believable as well which only gave credence to what she shared. Well-worth the watch for anyone who comes across this comment! 🤙🏽 ua-cam.com/video/pY04M9tNEq0/v-deo.htmlsi=2BaVK7rlj2i5Lg7f
I love your Teal Swan commentary series. It’s so thoughtful and well-done.
Looking forward to watching this one. Keep up the great work!
Interesting. It doesn’t change my mind as far as how manipulative Teal is, I think she’s just frustrated that she’s been “bested” by a crew she thought would put her in the best light possible, but showed more of her true side than she ever wanted a spotlight on.
Props to her for bringing this footage forward… took long enough.
maybe it's because i went to film school, but what the filmmakers did isn't much different to how documentaries are made. they edit things in a "creative" ways, that's wht you have to Always do your own research. i think she's upset because she expected to be shown in a good light. her reputation took a hit, i mean she could as well sue for slander if she has proof 🤔
💯she wouldn’t have an issue with creative editing if she ended up looking amazing but since they used footage that showed an unflattering side of her now everything is fraudulent.
@@BHaney 100% agree, maybe she expected an ad, not a critique. she's living in a bubble, i guess for example the crew contacting people who left her little group hit her where it hurts since it's hard to prove they are lying. she's pushing the malicious editing angle bc she knows the crew probably won't publish unreleased image (possibly due to licensing issues) so it's easy for her to hang on to that and use the couple recordings she has
For the one scene where there is proof that the real conversation is entirely different, I think differently of the filmmakers and I wish they hadn't gone that far. Filming for 3 years, they should not have needed to do that and doing so only makes the rest look suspicious to those who aren't already aware of Teal.
That said, there is no proof that could change my mind about Teal as it was made up years ago when I nearly got sucked into her shtick. The one good thing I could say about her is that she doesn't hide what most consider red flags. Once I started seeing her talk about how you can't just take what works from and leave the rest, I knew I was in the danger zone.
Her views around suicide I can personally understand but are never something I see as something to suggest. It's a dangerous standpoint for a lot of people, I think people that find comfort in it like we do are less common and people need to come to their own understandings regardless.
To be clear- this was all on UA-cam in about 6 months time. I never met Teal or joined any groups. This is just what seems very obvious from that experience. She made is very clear that she believes she has THE solution or solutions in life and that will never be a safe thing in my eyes. Honestly makes me more angry that they edited things so clearly to be something else in the docuseries because I know every experience looks less credible to the general public now.
She says the inner circle doesn’t live in her home.
She says the inner circle cannot have children because she can’t have children keeping her awake at night.
Make it make sense.
For a control freak. She has a child where is this child?? With one of the 4 husbands???
B! As usual even-keeled in your analysis and not judgemental of either side. It also bugs me that Teal tells these stories of "this is really what happened" without backing it up. Not much she says really makes actual sense when its logically thought through.
Thank you 💛
It bugs me too. I understand she might not always have concrete proof of “her side” but even if you want to take her at her word, the explanations she gives don’t really make sense.
This is what Will Shakespeare meant by 'the lady doth protest too much.' I swear, Teal Swan gets paid by the number of 'I's and 'me's she can cram into a sentence.
I looked at the inner circle when Teal is speaking and they all look like they are unable to speak what they feel or think. They look oppressed. They can only agree with Teal.
the sound of Teal's voice gives me the heebie-jeebies. It just creeps me out. Do not like! On the other hand, I love your deep dive investigations! Keep it up!
I picked up on this also. The more I find the truth of this person, the more it makes me mad, to see people being used by this con woman.
Ohh so excited for this! Thanks B ❤️
OK so in earlier responses she claimed no one lived with her. Now she says the no children rule doesn't apply if the person moves out... So they are living with her??
I discovered your channel through the Brittany Dawn video and then stumbled across this series. It has been extremely interesting to hear and understand your perspective. You have a really unbiased style that I so appreciate. I have subscribed :) looking forward to listening to more of your videos whilst I mindlessly clean/fold laundry.
Thank you much, I’m glad to have you here! 💛
I just love you and your channel. Thank you for sharing your ideals and thoughts!!
From what I've researched she is actually *worse* than just what the documentary showed. These documentarians have saved a lot of people a lot of suffering by warning people off of her.
A living soul collector. Yes, they walk the earth feeding on others energy. A parasite that walks and talks.
Regarding the water breath perspective ~ The filmmaker was showing the experience from the perspective of the person experiencing it. That is going to be exponentially more chaotic and negative than someone who is on the outside and not empathizing with the person.
Teal sees it as calm because she isn’t empathizing and isn’t experiencing it.
Curious, that Sabrina is hurting and saying she wants to kill herself. Yet TS is concerned with how Sabrina's suicide would reflect on her, if Sabrina did go through with it back home. I find that very telling about TS's ego. Also in one of the clips TS shared, with the woman married to a man twice her age, the woman is afraid of what family will tell her when her husband dies. And TS and the audience all say to her, don't be around her family. Not giving ways to reconcile the situation, they all just went straight to, stay away from your family. Hell of a thing for when she's a widow.
So at 10:05, why would Teal have to emphasize that it was Blake's fault the fish died? Was that only to get a sting in if he watches that video? Or might she possibly have had something to do with his fish dying..? Just makes you wonder.
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, she is a dark shaman that has not done her own work and therefore is a danger to others. She is messing around in the shamanic realm without having healed her own shattered self. To me, it was very telling in a previous episode when the guy (Simon) asked her who HER teacher/healer is. Her response was perfect narcissistic projection/deflection. Very sad because it is true that a lot of her insights and teachings are extremely valuable and have the ability to help those in tremendous pain. It’s because of her own unhealed parts that she has the ability to inflict SERIOUS damage on the vulnerable who do not have the ego strength or boundaries to be able to stand up to her viciousness when she perceives one of her own weaknesses in them. She simply has to tear that person down for her own “comfort”.
I would like the perspective of the film makers. They spent 2 years filming her. I mean everyone assumes they went in with bad intentions. No one has seemed to consider maybe they started of neutral and did not like what they witnessed which then resulted in such editing. So would be nice to know why they edited it this way. Also TS's best friend from childhood said TS liked to shock people and be the victim for sympathy. I find it curious that this docu that she allowed, has given her victim status.
Teal saying that she basically resents being told that she can't help suicidal people, and that she demands to have a way made for her to do so, is so incredibly entitled and self aggrandizing. She has NO SKILLS to work with people like that, period. Her suggestion to Sabrina that she may need some of her stepmother's traits to succeed in life is a very poor call, clinically speaking. Sabrina cannot differentiate between her stepmother's hurtful traits and her more positive ones, she appears to see her as a source of harm and a threat, and is incredibly defended against her. To do what Teal did is so incredibly mis-attuned and plain stupid, she is completely ignoring the reality of Sabrina's emotional state. No wonder she couldn't help her. She has no skills to do so, and instead is blindly stumbling around hoping for the best. This is not something you do with people in severe psychological and emotional distress, especially those with suicidal ideation.
Hey B, just thought that you should know that the waterbreath scene was highly edited because the woman who said “I love you“ was another woman which you can see if you look closely.
I agree that waterbreath is very concerning but thought I should let you know.
Teal has said herself that it was Sabrina who said I love you. Not two different women.
Objectively speaking the documentary mixed truth with falsehood, which made it more nuanced and challenging to extract the truth about teal’s organization. Just because there was falsehood in the documentary still doesn’t mean there isn’t some truth to what the deep end presented. For anyone who follows teal and her message, it’s clearly self-help, but it’s also apparent that teal, as though she helps people and seems to somehow care, also has the vice of centering the whole organization and movement around her, sort of making herself the kingpin of everything, which somehow may translate to even her subjective preference during a given situation to which her inner circle have to abide by. The self-centeredness is clearly demonstrated.
This was further aggravated by how she disrespected and insulted Blake at the very end (calling him weak, dishonorable…). One could argue that it’s also Blake’s fault for not drawing clear boundaries and not having a backbone in such situations, but still Teal shockingly surprised me since this juxtaposed with her image of being a healed healer and somehow a spiritual teacher. She also displayed strong opposition to those who had questions on authority that may relate to her even mildly, which showed some insecurity (ie being offended if asked on how she claims she doesn’t look up to anyone).
To me it appears that she does indeed provide some valuable help to her followers but she’s not that infallible almost revered figure that some may perceive her as such. She shows that she still holds trauma from her past, and projects that trauma in the form of self-centeredness and aversion to parental family relationships with regards to her clients/followers. The latter part can have serious implications for her followers who chose to severe ties with parents that are misrepresented based on Teal’s advice and eventually causing more chaos and pain to the follower at hand.
Teal should have known they were disingenuous but maybe most weren't cause, think about it, most of the crew does not produce or edit footage. The editor, producer, and director may have not decided on the full scope of the project before filming and Teal did let a PI go through her life...from her family, ex-inner circle, past participants, and childhood friends, she may not want that all known to the collective. I think her forthright opinion, bluntness, and back story may have 'bit her in the butt'...Does that make her a monsterous guru...No, just a very human condition...loss of superpowers. I can see her dismay, anger, and sadness but it truly is her fault, she let them in and was herself. YOU; You are wonderfully fair, sympathetic, and have common sense...love the channel.
It's just weird how Teal defends herself. It's like she's defending things we did not even think? Like emphasizing it was Blake's fault the fish died, like we thought it was hers. And claiming they made it look like she was running from her emotions on that run when it didn't, and saying that they made it look like she is such a lonely, miserable person that she gets her closeness through people being in pain. Who even thought that? So is this Teal telling how she really is like, and what she really does? Because I can't remember thinking any of this when I watched the docu. It's interesting to consider it now though.
My guess why teal didn’t release these videos (evidence she had) was for legal reasons with Neflix. I am not sure tho.
As a lover of birds and especially pond dwelling birds I fell for the allure of Teal Swan. I was horrified and saddened to learn that Teal Swan is NOT a graceful bird…… but a lady!!! How deceptive….
I love Teal she is beautiful and smart I heard bad things about her since I started too follow her. But then again you hear nothing but bad things about church's and people still follow Jesus.
Teal said she wished she had recorded everything. during the surreptitious making of the documentary. The producer did not show anything but herself cheering others on, this would have happened anyway, they are pretending to incite the excitement on their merit, thieves.
I'm very curious about the raw footage if it ever gets released, but I know I'll forget about this in a few days time and forget to check if it happened already 😂
shockingly, I'm early
For all we know, Teal might be super mega flawed, but also it's clear that the documentary makers manipulated tons of stuff to make her look way worse than she is. That is for sure.
I don’t think they manipulated her for two years!!!
Wow this was great series you did! Even though I’m a year late lol 😅
But why would they have to move out to have a baby, didn't teal say they all have their own apartments? 🤔👶
Seems context could often be enviromental moments as robin hood also could be a villainoxcide
It felt like the producer did like a basic intro. then they started vamping to fill time and hype the crowd. I honestly didn't see any difference between introducing a performer to what they did.
the contract speaks for itself!
she is god
Teal Swan has done me worlds of good and done me zero harm. I like her.
Weak minds love her.
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B:
I would love to see you so a video talking about the Mormon Stories Podcast episode with Teals childhood friend.
There is so much insight in it. Episode 1607
If you’re still looking for an interview with Kasbe where he talks about the editing, it was on the Conspirituality podcast.
I know I’m late to this party, so I’m sorry if this comment is useless now! 😂
Thank you!!! I still didn’t know which podcast it was so this is super helpful 😊
@@BHaney Yaaayyy you’re welcome!! It’ll be easy to find. They started a Teal Swan series, and there were two episodes that launched the whole thing: first part is the interview with Kasbe, and the second part is an interview with Jennings Brown who did The Gateway podcast about her. All fascinating. Happy listening!
woah, gotta say that was a crappy editing job with Sabrina
It’s possible they used this small conversation as an illustration of the larger truth based on many conversations had over the years.
Why did you cut out all the other footages she published ? You talked for like 10 hours about her, and yet allocated barely 10-20 minutes analyzing the footages she published . . .
We’re all sick of her, a lying manipulator.
These documentarians kinda suck. Their editing did sensationalize things, adding a spooky vibe through music, or silence, or through a chronologically misplaced smile. I don't think they needed these manipulative tricks in order to show Teal as she is - and so, by using them, they only make me question their representation. They were manipulative in order to expose her as being manipulative.
50:50
A bookmark for engagement and later use :)
Teal is a hot mess
All just by the way they shot this film you can tell they are trying to paint her in a bad light. And if one part is edited in that way or that much do you really think they are doing anything other than that in the rest of it.