Nah, this requires a lot of mechanics to play like this. Others champs top are better, but lee sin is pretty viable if u play like this (have to be good thats the problem xD)
Fun Lee mechanic at 10:48 If you cancel your W dash with Q2 (you get a fast walking animation) you can use abilities and items mid air, with this you can even land E damage before Q2 so it deals more damage, you can also use your R to another enemy mid air or even another Q with enough ability haste :)
@Βασιλης Οικονομιδης lol you can, if you cancel your w with q and have alot of ability haste and wait for the end of your q you can throw another q, bro jst watch a shenshan lee montage check the urf one they do it alot there but it is 100% possible in normal games ( keep in mind you need alot of AH)
The E2 reveals qiyana is actually not a bug, it said on the ability description "Reveal any units" which is also include every champ with invisible ability.
I think it is a bug because in patch 7.1 Riot removed the effect of revealing invisible enemies like Akali or in this case now Qiyana with his E. This came around when they reworked invisibility and figured it would be too broken, so they only let his Q keep the effect.
if it hits them when theyre invisible, it shouldnt reveal. If it hits them before they get invisible, it should reveal them. So the way it should work is lee sin E's qiyana before she goes bush enchant then she wont be invis
I KNEW IT. When i just started game and after seeing players pick unusual champs for their lanes, i thought laning lee sin would be dope. Now my dream is real.
Hi Dobby, there's a combo that was shown in this video that is important to know about. If you're close enough to your target when you R, you can auto attack them as they're flying away. This is seen at 9:28. They need to be in your auto attack range as you R them. Remember that your R range is much bigger than your auto range.
Commenting here for the algorithm. Gonna keep doing it until 100K :) Yay, you're back with another off meta pick! It's interesting that it's usually junglers in the mid or toplane (Fiddle, Xin, Lillia and now Lee), but I guess it's just a coincidence, since when it comes to inventing new strategies, Korean challengers (and low iron players xd) are the best. As for Lee, I always thought he was extremely strong in solo lanes due to his Q. The biggest struggle is actually hitting it, but if the Lee knows how to control waves and doesn't let me slowpush a big wave, then I'm screwed. A single Q at level one can deal up to 165 damage (or 110 if the enemy is full health). For reference a full Aurelion Sol W at level one with 4 star hits deals up to 95.2 damage. But not only does it have high damage, it also allows Lee Sin to gapclose right into your face and land a bunch of free autos, and also his E, which has pretty high base damage too (100 at rank 1, while Aurelion Sol Q is stuck there with 70). I definitely agree that you need to put time into Lee though. You really need to know your limits and a bad ult can really backfire, so commitment is the key. You also can't just play patient and scale, because a lot of midlaners and toplaners will be better in late game teamfights (although in the mid game, Lee Sin can still smash). I just hope I don't have to face a Lee Sin onetrick in the midlane again, cus I've once got one while playing Vel'Koz and it was extremely hard (he got a surprise first blood on me and then I had to play extremely safe the entire lane). Loved the Hecarim fail part. You can be Beifeng, or you can be a challenger Korean playing a powerful hidden pick like Lee top, but it just doesn't matter. The guy will still kill you and make you look incredibly stupid. Glad he is getting nerfed next patch too (third nerf in a row, lol).
Agreed. A lot of junglers kinda are playable in top lanes. I have seen a few OTP hecarim, skarner, rek who only plays top(i am talking players who are min Diamonds
One important thing, which explains, that the people do always ult and then do Q2 first. The damage of the 2. Q scales with missing health from the enemy. So do us much dmg as possible first and then do 2.Q
This makes me wish they make another martial art-based champ, punches and kicks and using energy as a resource. or, you know, they could change Udyr to be that way. a stance-based fighter. can go aggressive or turtle depending on the situation. they could just make his ult a shift between stances (four so people could still pick and choose) but is locked into that stance for a set amount of time so he doesn't abuse other champions for having less buttons to press. Tiger stance - aggressive damage and attack speed based. Turtle stance - useful for surviving lane, shields and built-in omnivamp. Bear stance - useful for disruption, cc and bulk. Phoenix stance - useful for AoE each stance will have three separate abilities for the Q W and E so arguably still the same champ but each stance grants you a different moveset but I guess that would be INSANELY DIFFICULT to balance for Sylas' sake.
It does give true vision, its the reason shaco can't run away from lee sin by q'ing away, he will still see you, or akali, or evelynn or literally any invis champ you get the point
With enough hability haste, instead of canceling animations with a ward jump, you can cancel either with a minion, a monster or a champion with your E, wich let you free ward jump after your aircraft Q, prowler flash, etc... There's so many possibilities that peoples don't think about lol
you should do a video about twitch mate! not that twitch has any mechanic or something like that(mono twitch talking here) but maybe people start playing the champ correctly after watching your vid (idk) anyway cheers mate! keep up the good work!
Lee sin revealing stealth enemies with e is completely intended if you ever read the ability's description. It's why he was the go to akali counter with vanilla akali kit
E max first for better wave clear (and contest for lvl 2 faster if you dont have the confidence to solo kill level 1 with Q start) Q max first if you clearly win levle 1 if you land your Q (against aatrox for example)
I'm noticing something really common here. If a champion doesn't have a lot of aoe damage but can be played in the jungle, it's actually pretty broken in lane too. I don't think people realize how hard it is to clear jungle. Like in season 4, you could pretty much use any champion and make it work but now only really specific ones can be played. Lee, Nid, etc are able to be played in lane because they were balanced out so much that riot wanted them to be in jungle but had to give the extra push that makes them a little too strong in lane as well.
Guess it was more niche before the item rework but I got all my S or S+ games for mastery 7 playing Lee top, cool to see that he's getting popular outside of jungle.
9:36 Good ult from Lee ofc but i would like everyone to look at how Pyke was hugging the wall to avoid the double kick From Lee Sin (although he failed) this is not an impressive play but a good decision making from Pyke and we should learn from him the key to not get outplayed is to not let your enemy has the set up required to do so the concept also apply to sett when you are playing a tank in teamfights
Uhm Dobby, i really don't see a lot of support guide on your channel, espescially enchantuer champs! Can you make some of those some day? Like Nami or Janna or Morg ??? Thanks! Keep up the good content! ❤
It's a pity that only basic combos are shown here) but there is still - Insec, Kick-Flash, Ward Hop - Kick Flash, Airborne Tempest, Ghost Kick, Chinese Insec, Phantom Ladder Insec, Turning-Back Kick, Drive By Insec))
It's not a bug that you can reveal stealth with e. It has always been like that. Since before they changed a lot of champions to camouflage. He used to be the best champ into old akali.
Hey Dobby, great video, but as someone whose played top Lee since season 4 you forgot one crucial tip. You need to play pool party Lee Sin for maximum damage. Just a heads up
Try turning on insta ward (I dunno what it's actually called) but it means that as soon as you press your keybind the ward will place on your cursor as opposed to you having to click, that means your click works for the ward hop and you don't miss the ward because it's almost instant. Also just practice in the practice tool.
dobby, you gotta make a video about tip and trick in how to get better in league of legend. such as timing tower shot, we need more yasuo mid that can play not some idiot who rush into the tower.
This question really is for lee sin in general, Is have your pink wards on your mouse button a bad idea? is it worse than having your wards on a keyboard keybind?
Videos like this one ruin games in any elo below plat. I cant tell you how many lee sins i've ruined the past week on top lane. Now i see this video and it all makes sense
You can max E first
E has AP damage, so enemy might be in pain without knowing.
And E has been buffed recently.
Do people also max W first for the lane sustain?
Can he handle nasus
almost every champs can handle nasus lol
@@pewpewhuang4162 thank God I hate facing that champ
@@pewpewhuang4162 even though I main him but Yeah I agree every champ can handle him
I hate facing mAh main if I pick other champs
Bronze/Silver players after this video: Ferb, I know what were going to do today
lolol
This was totally me after watching the video lol
"aren't you too low elo to try challenger strats?"
"Yes, yes we are."
I was cooking this up ever since i started playing lee sin a month ago. Unholy amounts of damage istg.
Lee Sin top counter teemo pretty hard.
You can’t be blind if you’re already blind
-Master Oogway
nice man :)))
Ah yes, so I expect Sona to be the direct counter to garen
Actually i've never won against a teemo as lee sin
@@dekuneki9129 well you’re dog
Lol
"Hopefully this video won't end up corrupting solo Q" great words before disaster haha
Too late league player are a bunch of non creative meta abuser.
You could say
These are the Sins of Lee
They should add it ingame
Nah, this requires a lot of mechanics to play like this. Others champs top are better, but lee sin is pretty viable if u play like this (have to be good thats the problem xD)
@@proooogi488 meta slaves
"hopefully this video won't end up corrupting solo q"
All the beifeng highlights have already done that don't worry
I found a Lee noob toplane two days ago already -__-
true
On the flipside, no matter how hard Lee ints his R is always powerful lol
@@dude8351 then youre gonna find that ONE lee sin that 1v9 carries while ur 0/42069/3
SoloQ: haha LOL
Fun Lee mechanic at 10:48 If you cancel your W dash with Q2 (you get a fast walking animation) you can use abilities and items mid air, with this you can even land E damage before Q2 so it deals more damage, you can also use your R to another enemy mid air or even another Q with enough ability haste :)
as a lee main, true that
@@MuayadAl-Barwani just hit 1 mill with my boi lee 👀
@Βασιλης Οικονομιδης lol you can, if you cancel your w with q and have alot of ability haste and wait for the end of your q you can throw another q, bro jst watch a shenshan lee montage check the urf one they do it alot there but it is 100% possible in normal games ( keep in mind you need alot of AH)
@Βασιλης Οικονομιδης umm, you can :V quite hard but people actually did it in urf
The E2 reveals qiyana is actually not a bug, it said on the ability description "Reveal any units" which is also include every champ with invisible ability.
I think it is a bug because in patch 7.1 Riot removed the effect of revealing invisible enemies like Akali or in this case now Qiyana with his E. This came around when they reworked invisibility and figured it would be too broken, so they only let his Q keep the effect.
@@TickleMyPitz idk much about LS in League PC , but Wildrift LS does reveal invis champion with his E2 .
I think in his ability Description it says that in order to reveal an invis champ the E1 has to hit before the champ went invis
if it hits them when theyre invisible, it shouldnt reveal. If it hits them before they get invisible, it should reveal them. So the way it should work is lee sin E's qiyana before she goes bush enchant then she wont be invis
As a kh6 main i can confirm that he reveal you mid stealth even tho he is supposed not to ,lost lot of 1v1 cause of that
5:39 Looks like the minion learned from scuttle crab
10:57 that reaction time though
Not gonna lie my favorite moment was when you just placed a question mark when the lee sin missed
The minion he was aiming for juked his Q
@@dr.nightmare9093 I had this happen before and I felt like: .. You would do this to me?!?
"Flexing mechanics is a must"
Lee sin just auto attack samira til she's dead.
That ward hop at the end was very important
Look at the level difference
dat samira dealt literally 0 damage to lee
11:38 Lee sin literally went to the heavens lol
I KNEW IT. When i just started game and after seeing players pick unusual champs for their lanes, i thought laning lee sin would be dope. Now my dream is real.
ah, flexing mechanics is a must. that explains everything, nice video
Thanks for making this amazing Lee Sin guide!
Hi Dobby, there's a combo that was shown in this video that is important to know about. If you're close enough to your target when you R, you can auto attack them as they're flying away. This is seen at 9:28. They need to be in your auto attack range as you R them. Remember that your R range is much bigger than your auto range.
That's important tip !
5:40 that minion jukes him so hard lol
Robby: Always keep minions in mind
Minions: It is show time!
Your channel is an unbelievably useful resource.
Please don't stop.
dobby, love your channel man , can you make a gwen secret tips?
Lee sin being strong in any lane and role is like minions giving gold, just natural
7:15 it's not a bug, lee sin E marks and reveals enemys conceding magic vision of his
Love lee mid
Hi Chimes
why did i do this??
You actually need skills and quick fingers to make him work in lane. It's always a shock to see him beats an irelia with 5 stacks in a 1v1
Commenting here for the algorithm. Gonna keep doing it until 100K :)
Yay, you're back with another off meta pick! It's interesting that it's usually junglers in the mid or toplane (Fiddle, Xin, Lillia and now Lee), but I guess it's just a coincidence, since when it comes to inventing new strategies, Korean challengers (and low iron players xd) are the best.
As for Lee, I always thought he was extremely strong in solo lanes due to his Q. The biggest struggle is actually hitting it, but if the Lee knows how to control waves and doesn't let me slowpush a big wave, then I'm screwed. A single Q at level one can deal up to 165 damage (or 110 if the enemy is full health). For reference a full Aurelion Sol W at level one with 4 star hits deals up to 95.2 damage. But not only does it have high damage, it also allows Lee Sin to gapclose right into your face and land a bunch of free autos, and also his E, which has pretty high base damage too (100 at rank 1, while Aurelion Sol Q is stuck there with 70).
I definitely agree that you need to put time into Lee though. You really need to know your limits and a bad ult can really backfire, so commitment is the key. You also can't just play patient and scale, because a lot of midlaners and toplaners will be better in late game teamfights (although in the mid game, Lee Sin can still smash). I just hope I don't have to face a Lee Sin onetrick in the midlane again, cus I've once got one while playing Vel'Koz and it was extremely hard (he got a surprise first blood on me and then I had to play extremely safe the entire lane).
Loved the Hecarim fail part. You can be Beifeng, or you can be a challenger Korean playing a powerful hidden pick like Lee top, but it just doesn't matter. The guy will still kill you and make you look incredibly stupid. Glad he is getting nerfed next patch too (third nerf in a row, lol).
Agreed. A lot of junglers kinda are playable in top lanes. I have seen a few OTP hecarim, skarner, rek who only plays top(i am talking players who are min Diamonds
One important thing, which explains, that the people do always ult and then do Q2 first. The damage of the 2. Q scales with missing health from the enemy. So do us much dmg as possible first and then do 2.Q
This makes me wish they make another martial art-based champ, punches and kicks and using energy as a resource.
or, you know, they could change Udyr to be that way. a stance-based fighter. can go aggressive or turtle depending on the situation.
they could just make his ult a shift between stances (four so people could still pick and choose) but is locked into that stance for a set amount of time so he doesn't abuse other champions for having less buttons to press.
Tiger stance - aggressive damage and attack speed based.
Turtle stance - useful for surviving lane, shields and built-in omnivamp.
Bear stance - useful for disruption, cc and bulk.
Phoenix stance - useful for AoE
each stance will have three separate abilities for the Q W and E so arguably still the same champ but each stance grants you a different moveset but I guess that would be INSANELY DIFFICULT to balance for Sylas' sake.
It’s not a bug, his e gives true vision I remember
It does give true vision, its the reason shaco can't run away from lee sin by q'ing away, he will still see you, or akali, or evelynn or literally any invis champ you get the point
V7.1
Tempest
No longer reveals invisible targets.
So yeah, it's a bug
E2 reveal qiyana its not a bug! Lee sin mark (moon icon) give true sight
With enough hability haste, instead of canceling animations with a ward jump, you can cancel either with a minion, a monster or a champion with your E, wich let you free ward jump after your aircraft Q, prowler flash, etc... There's so many possibilities that peoples don't think about lol
you should do a video about twitch mate! not that twitch has any mechanic or something like that(mono twitch talking here)
but maybe people start playing the champ correctly after watching your vid (idk)
anyway cheers mate! keep up the good work!
7:12 well, that's not a bug since lee's e gives true vision on struck enemies.
as a Lee Sin main, i never thought of playing this way tbh, might try it, i used to build electrocute and assasin items.
can you do gwen video i know she is new but maybe there are some good players of her
Sure, I'll make it soon !
@@LoLDobby thank you !
@@LoLDobby any update on lol analyst
Los main lee:
ya, ya nos exibiste
I'm literally looking for a lee sin top guide because I've been seeing this a lot thanks for this
Perfect upload at the perfect moment
Wish there was more content for the other lanes too. Then again top lane seems the most diverse
Lee sin revealing stealth enemies with e is completely intended if you ever read the ability's description.
It's why he was the go to akali counter with vanilla akali kit
Been playing this a lot lately, his lane match ups are insanely good and he rly can just 1v1 anyone.
E max first for better wave clear (and contest for lvl 2 faster if you dont have the confidence to solo kill level 1 with Q start)
Q max first if you clearly win levle 1 if you land your Q (against aatrox for example)
2:34 nice lee flash
I'm noticing something really common here. If a champion doesn't have a lot of aoe damage but can be played in the jungle, it's actually pretty broken in lane too. I don't think people realize how hard it is to clear jungle. Like in season 4, you could pretty much use any champion and make it work but now only really specific ones can be played. Lee, Nid, etc are able to be played in lane because they were balanced out so much that riot wanted them to be in jungle but had to give the extra push that makes them a little too strong in lane as well.
Guess it was more niche before the item rework but I got all my S or S+ games for mastery 7 playing Lee top, cool to see that he's getting popular outside of jungle.
9:36 Good ult from Lee ofc
but i would like everyone to look at how Pyke was hugging the wall to avoid the double kick From Lee Sin (although he failed)
this is not an impressive play but a good decision making from Pyke and we should learn from him
the key to not get outplayed is to not let your enemy has the set up required to do so
the concept also apply to sett when you are playing a tank in teamfights
Thank you mate, I needed some basic learning as I got the God lee skin and wanna play him xD
Wish i could hug you for all the work you do
Uhm Dobby, i really don't see a lot of support guide on your channel, espescially enchantuer champs! Can you make some of those some day? Like Nami or Janna or Morg ???
Thanks! Keep up the good content! ❤
Sure I'll make it ,too ! :>
Dobby can you please do another showmaker video
Sure :) I love showmaker
I used to play lee top back when his e gave attack speed reduction but juggernauts like darius and garen can shit on him easily
Wonderful content and editing video, really enjoyed. Keep it up and you have
my full support see you around mate.. !
expected that since the e buffs, keep up !
I heard this from arrow as well I started playing him top and has had great success even vs malphite
It's a pity that only basic combos are shown here) but there is still - Insec, Kick-Flash, Ward Hop - Kick Flash, Airborne Tempest, Ghost Kick, Chinese Insec, Phantom Ladder Insec, Turning-Back Kick, Drive By Insec))
This Lee Sin Reminds me of sro, even doing a small trade he needs to flash his mastery.
It's not a bug that you can reveal stealth with e. It has always been like that. Since before they changed a lot of champions to camouflage. He used to be the best champ into old akali.
Hey dobby keep up the good work
Wukong tips and tricks would be a good video? He is a fairly simple champion but i want to main him, so knowing some secrets would be nice
In this clip Korean minions are more skilled than players 5:40 the minion juked lee's Q without using flash
An Ranged Top Laner Main: *chuckles* I'm in Danger
5:40 that minnion has faker senses
6:45 that senna is all we need
just realized after a year that lee sin's W is a soap brand in my country, safeguard
Amazing content like always!
I've tried maxing W as well first. The sustain is exceptional against all in champions.
counter: yourself if you missed every Q use W in bad time E in empty land and R to kick target to safe spot 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"counter: Yourself."
LOVE YOU
Lee sin as top laner used to be fun against riven season 2 and 3.
Thank you for this!
11:36 woah what happened there lol
Hey Dobby, great video, but as someone whose played top Lee since season 4 you forgot one crucial tip. You need to play pool party Lee Sin for maximum damage. Just a heads up
E revealing stealth Units is no bug, it always worked that way
I really like how i remember dopa said something about lee gonna dominate solo lanes
was quite obvious with the upcoming buff tho
Hey Dobby, please make a Gankplank tips video
4:08 he actually Q Flash Q, not F Q Q
Beside it, since when Lee Sin E reveal invisible champion is a bug? 7:14
Lee sin is the only reason I would go back to league.. so satisfying to play and outplay..
I was thinking about playing Lee sin outside the jg and then 4 days after , you uploaded this ❤❤ really good job man❤❤
2:33 that flash xD
replay bug
Can u explain why i ruin 3/4 ward jumps? Hardest mechanic in whole game for me xd...
Try turning on insta ward (I dunno what it's actually called) but it means that as soon as you press your keybind the ward will place on your cursor as opposed to you having to click, that means your click works for the ward hop and you don't miss the ward because it's almost instant. Also just practice in the practice tool.
As a Lee Sin main, I can confirm that flexing mechanics is a must. The win wouldn't have mattered otherwise 😂😂😂
Because of this I played 2 Lee sin games on top
16/6/11
20/4/7
I won’t even bother learning this because riot will kill it next patch like every other off-meta pick.
and then he said : "hopefully this video wont end up corrupting soloq"
hahahaha
When do you max Q or E? I tried maxing E and it's actually strong.
in vietnam this style has been played long time ago ( sorry because my english is bad )
Oh, you're a pioneer !
"LoL Dobby's Boom in UA-cam Challenger"
Doesn't Lee sin's E reveal stealth? Why did you call it a bug?
dobby, you gotta make a video about tip and trick in how to get better in league of legend. such as timing tower shot, we need more yasuo mid that can play not some idiot who rush into the tower.
This question really is for lee sin in general, Is have your pink wards on your mouse button a bad idea? is it worse than having your wards on a keyboard keybind?
Lee top is very old, it used to be common when his E slowed attack speed not just move speed
that minion at 5:40
beautiful outplays!
Can you make a jayce tips and secrets video??
11:36 i believe i can flyy
I always stop to watch every single upload keep up the amazing work
There was this time i got a fragment of lee sin lighting fist...but used it to get another skin because i did not play jgl.
Well now i regret it
Counter information is on another level😂
And the trend, begins.
I like the R Miss Q comboit's such a Lee Sin staple
Videos like this one ruin games in any elo below plat. I cant tell you how many lee sins i've ruined the past week on top lane. Now i see this video and it all makes sense
at 4:20 the example was a bit bad because he actually got shot by the tower