The way Zavala reaches for his ghost then pauses when he realizes what he’s hearing... Then that soft ‘The collapse... you were there.’ Sometimes the words that ring the loudest and have the most resounding effect are ones spoken in quiet understanding.
@@ricerice8940 Its a theory (and one that I like to agree with) that the ghosts themselves were created by Clovis Brey before the collapse. They were simply going to be personal help bots with their own AI (hence why each one has a specific personality). Then once the traveler sacrificed itself it decided to use these creations in order to bring about the guardians. It gave each of the ghosts the power of the light giving them the ability to find and resurrect a single guardian. this is also why the ghosts know nothing else about the traveler, because they didn't come from the traveler, they are just a conduit for its light, like a powerline.
@@siddhanthmv3675 As interesting as that theory could be, some lore does state that each ghost is made of a shard of the Traveler and that they gained shells only after being "born", by attaching bits and pieces of scrap to themselves. One piece even goes further, talking about how each Ghost remembers a time when they were a part of one whole, and were torn away, becoming Ghosts. The way that one described it, it seemed to imply they didn't even have physical bodies until they made a shell for themselves, and it's clear they did so independently rather than being inserted into some existing piece of tech. There isn't much room for an in-between where some existing piece of tech is suborned to become the basis for each Ghost's helper functions and personality. It's quite likely despite their seemingly mechanical nature, they aren't AI housed in machines in the sense we understand.
Forgot how fucking cool the Darkness was when it was still a mystery. Such a threatening presence. The lead up to arrivals and arrivals itself was so damn good
It really was so attractive, an unstoppable force converging on our solar system like a tsunami. The existence of the witness really removed 90 percent of the mystery, it’s just another being we gotta blow up with missiles in the end. No grand space battles, no crushing defeat where we have to flee sol, nothing. The black fleet just waltz in, park next to the traveller in orbit, then leave through some portal made by a mcguffin. And the way they handled Rasputin is criminal; we never got a showdown between Rasputin and xivu, he just offs himself, it’s a complete cop out on part of the writers. If Rasputin came to be online we would stand a chance against any threat that is not pyramid ship with his might alone, adding in the awoken, cabal, and Eliksni allies just confirms this outcome. Oh, and xivu arath is kind of a let down too; a god of war with supposedly colossal armies and strategic genius beyond any other hives level can’t find a way to beat one planet of light bearers. The whole “open up the ascendant plane over earth” plan seems completely unnecessary, if she’d just come into sol taken king style she could completely swarm the dreaming city and earth, especially now that Rasputin is dead and his weapons can’t stop her fleets.
@@Azakadune, this is such an accurate description of Destiny 2 as a whole. It seems promising, but every time developers have a chance to make a leap they take a huge dive. They destroyed any mystery vibe I had for the Rasputin and the Pyramids. And we still don't know anything about the Witness. Like WTF does it want? Why do we fight? Why does the Traveler? If you're going to unpack a package, dont make a half-assed job, Bungie.
So Zavala has finally put aside his distrust of Rasputin? It took him bloody damn long enough! In other news, I'm glad to see you've still found a way to remove the HUD and gun :D
Rasputin has no equals. If he get his body and power of a gardian, he will be on another level than any gardian before... Rasputin is the third strongest force in the galaxy with the traveler and the witness. And in a way, Rasputin has already been a gardian in the past. Remember Felwinter ? Half Exo, Half Warmind. Can't wait to see his return.
A few weeks after this Rasputin got his power button pressed and was immediately shutdown, arguably counted as the first casualty of the Darkness' return to Sol. All this buildup and big talk, and then just *boop*
@@minimalgrammar1276 Of course he ain't dead, he's in a prototype engram designed to contain him. But that doesn't change the fact that he's still the first casualty after an entire season explicitly about building up his strength to end a calamity.
Still fucked up how Rasputin can just casually fuck with ghosts like that. I remember the warmind node side quest in year 1 causing our ghost to freak out. Creepy shit.
Ohh no no no no no no Those triangled ships ....... The darkness he warned us but we didnt wanted to hear it... The darkness is coming the travelers enemy that he fought on time and nearly lost every think the darkness the fallen have seen and the darkness we will see soon i comes like it is our friend our salvation.... But it is the creator of nightmares and it will come as our nightmare.....
Imagine that on this upcoming expansion we fail. All Guardians get overruned by nightmares, our true fears of failing. Imagine if they take over our solar system only for us to take it back during the upcoming seasons. It would be great if we loose this fight.
"...we'll stand together, as equals, as Guardians." What a Guardian Rasputin was. "Devotion inspires bravery, Bravery leads to sacrifice, and sacrifice, leads to death." I never played warmind, didnt start playing till beyond light, but in that time Rasputin became one of my most favorite characters. His sacrifice at the end of season of the seraph was so sad, i still want to turn Eramis into a shitty gun that goes straight to the vault.
All this set up and the devs just tossed it out the window, should have just had a line about Rasputin holding off the rest of the enemy forces off screen or something
Now that I think of it, wouldn't he be a good candidate for the Traveler to turn into a guardian if he fully becomes an exo? I bet he'll die at the end of season of the seraph by sacrificing himself to destroy Clovis and then he'll get resurrected by the Traveler. He'd be stupid OP if he becomes the Warmind Guardian.
Moral of the story: be honest with Zavala. Trust the Zavala. Have faith in the blueberry.
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You fuckin' racist.
The way Zavala reaches for his ghost then pauses when he realizes what he’s hearing... Then that soft ‘The collapse... you were there.’ Sometimes the words that ring the loudest and have the most resounding effect are ones spoken in quiet understanding.
We gonna ignore how Rasputin straight up jacked Zavala’s ghost?
I read your comment and then re-watched the vid
HOW TF DID RASPUTIN DO THAT???
@@ricerice8940 He is the WARMIND. He's not called that for nothing
@@ricerice8940 Its a theory (and one that I like to agree with) that the ghosts themselves were created by Clovis Brey before the collapse. They were simply going to be personal help bots with their own AI (hence why each one has a specific personality). Then once the traveler sacrificed itself it decided to use these creations in order to bring about the guardians. It gave each of the ghosts the power of the light giving them the ability to find and resurrect a single guardian.
this is also why the ghosts know nothing else about the traveler, because they didn't come from the traveler, they are just a conduit for its light, like a powerline.
@@leokeatonn Wow I never thought about this... Actually makes sense...
@@siddhanthmv3675 As interesting as that theory could be, some lore does state that each ghost is made of a shard of the Traveler and that they gained shells only after being "born", by attaching bits and pieces of scrap to themselves. One piece even goes further, talking about how each Ghost remembers a time when they were a part of one whole, and were torn away, becoming Ghosts. The way that one described it, it seemed to imply they didn't even have physical bodies until they made a shell for themselves, and it's clear they did so independently rather than being inserted into some existing piece of tech. There isn't much room for an in-between where some existing piece of tech is suborned to become the basis for each Ghost's helper functions and personality. It's quite likely despite their seemingly mechanical nature, they aren't AI housed in machines in the sense we understand.
Forgot how fucking cool the Darkness was when it was still a mystery. Such a threatening presence.
The lead up to arrivals and arrivals itself was so damn good
then we find out its led by space megamind! 🤣
It really was so attractive, an unstoppable force converging on our solar system like a tsunami.
The existence of the witness really removed 90 percent of the mystery, it’s just another being we gotta blow up with missiles in the end. No grand space battles, no crushing defeat where we have to flee sol, nothing. The black fleet just waltz in, park next to the traveller in orbit, then leave through some portal made by a mcguffin.
And the way they handled Rasputin is criminal; we never got a showdown between Rasputin and xivu, he just offs himself, it’s a complete cop out on part of the writers.
If Rasputin came to be online we would stand a chance against any threat that is not pyramid ship with his might alone, adding in the awoken, cabal, and Eliksni allies just confirms this outcome.
Oh, and xivu arath is kind of a let down too; a god of war with supposedly colossal armies and strategic genius beyond any other hives level can’t find a way to beat one planet of light bearers. The whole “open up the ascendant plane over earth” plan seems completely unnecessary, if she’d just come into sol taken king style she could completely swarm the dreaming city and earth, especially now that Rasputin is dead and his weapons can’t stop her fleets.
@@Azakadune, this is such an accurate description of Destiny 2 as a whole. It seems promising, but every time developers have a chance to make a leap they take a huge dive.
They destroyed any mystery vibe I had for the Rasputin and the Pyramids. And we still don't know anything about the Witness. Like WTF does it want? Why do we fight? Why does the Traveler?
If you're going to unpack a package, dont make a half-assed job, Bungie.
So Zavala has finally put aside his distrust of Rasputin?
It took him bloody damn long enough!
In other news, I'm glad to see you've still found a way to remove the HUD and gun :D
"As equals. As guardians."
Rasputin getting a new body and becoming an Exo makes this statement more literal than we initially thought
Rasputin has no equals. If he get his body and power of a gardian, he will be on another level than any gardian before... Rasputin is the third strongest force in the galaxy with the traveler and the witness. And in a way, Rasputin has already been a gardian in the past. Remember Felwinter ? Half Exo, Half Warmind. Can't wait to see his return.
@@Gojo_Sensei_Ka They’re probably make him a Guardian, sucks that he dies for that to happen
@@Gojo_Sensei_Ka he already had the body and power of a guardian once, albeit, in a weird way
Felwinter was an off shoot of Rasputin
Zavala: convince me
Rasputin: bleh
Zavala: very well.
It would of made it much better if at the end, when Zavala said "As Guardians" Rasputin plays the Soviet National Anthem
Or ra ra rasputin
😂😂
Suraya: 'As guardians', huh? Don't let him do you dirty as he did me, Big Red.
Rest in peace Commander.
A few weeks after this Rasputin got his power button pressed and was immediately shutdown, arguably counted as the first casualty of the Darkness' return to Sol. All this buildup and big talk, and then just *boop*
A casual construct going against a Paracasual entity. Yeah that was never going to end well since The Darkness (or IT) was beyond its comprehension.
Rasputin knew the odds better than anybody. Also he's not dead, Ana stuck his ass in an engram because of course she did.
@@minimalgrammar1276 Of course he ain't dead, he's in a prototype engram designed to contain him. But that doesn't change the fact that he's still the first casualty after an entire season explicitly about building up his strength to end a calamity.
@@zack1stplayer Fair.
He might still get involved again tho.
He's back baby
I'd love to see zavala give a ted talk
Can't help but find it intresting they bring up the Darkness threat again when there is only one season left before we get the yearly expansion.
We are in just slightly longer than the last game. We're getting a bigger buildup for the next sequel.
@@mechasaurus consider Luke Smith indirectly confirmed that D2 getting support to at least 2023 that would be one hell of a sequel buildup *chuckles*
@@Awoken_Remmuz Well, here's hoping the seasonal content doesn't get too complicated. I, personally, remain unable to make a bunker purchase.
@@mechasaurus lol
Still fucked up how Rasputin can just casually fuck with ghosts like that. I remember the warmind node side quest in year 1 causing our ghost to freak out. Creepy shit.
One of my favourite seasons despite the shitty event
Mayday mayday mayday mayday this is unsc infinity we lost all control with our ship
enjoyed the upload, keep your grind strong my friend 😊
Stfu bot
Hurts even more after he left us :(
Still one of the best scenes in Destiny 2 and it wasn't even a cutscene
On guard means guard frequency it's like an open frequency you can broadcast to arbitrarily if you cant reach anyone.
Lol all that about solidarity and standing together than the darkness showed up and rasputin said *zzzzzzt* and got fried in half a second.
It looked to me that you don't need to be chosen to wield darkness so if I was in that universe I'd wield the dark
I miss doing that season going into the bunkers and sommon thoughs big meks
Zavala's like 400 years old, there's no way he's NEVER considered what it was like to live through the Collapse.
But from the perspective of the system-spanning all-powerful AI devoted to mankind's safety?
Imagine what it's like to listen to billions of human souls cry out for help and then go silent
Ohh no no no no no no
Those triangled ships .......
The darkness he warned us but we didnt wanted to hear it...
The darkness is coming the travelers enemy that he fought on time and nearly lost every think the darkness the fallen have seen and the darkness we will see soon i comes like it is our friend our salvation....
But it is the creator of nightmares and it will come as our nightmare.....
Imagine that on this upcoming expansion we fail. All Guardians get overruned by nightmares, our true fears of failing. Imagine if they take over our solar system only for us to take it back during the upcoming seasons. It would be great if we loose this fight.
@@RealBabuFrik next year. Remember, Light shall fall
"...we'll stand together, as equals, as Guardians." What a Guardian Rasputin was. "Devotion inspires bravery, Bravery leads to sacrifice, and sacrifice, leads to death."
I never played warmind, didnt start playing till beyond light, but in that time Rasputin became one of my most favorite characters. His sacrifice at the end of season of the seraph was so sad, i still want to turn Eramis into a shitty gun that goes straight to the vault.
All this set up and the devs just tossed it out the window, should have just had a line about Rasputin holding off the rest of the enemy forces off screen or something
Now that I think of it, wouldn't he be a good candidate for the Traveler to turn into a guardian if he fully becomes an exo? I bet he'll die at the end of season of the seraph by sacrificing himself to destroy Clovis and then he'll get resurrected by the Traveler. He'd be stupid OP if he becomes the Warmind Guardian.
Does anyone have which track it is that's playing in the background of this scene?
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Sounds like Sylens V Aloy
Don’t think rasputin wants to be equals considering the cutscene where Rasputin is talking to us and Ana translates, he states he has no equal.
Interesting...
zavala is so ridiculously easy to convince
That couldn’t be further from the truth
He's a Titan, he charges into the enemy headfirst. I wouldn't be surprised if he's had a few hard hits to his noggin
No, he just knows the value of listening to crazies because he was close friends with one.
I wish Cayde got to meet Raz.
too bad Rasputin died at the last minute