A comprehensive and thorough review that I agree with completely. What a machine we own. It enhanced the road trip experience, did not take a way from it. Thank you Cruiseman for joining me on this epic adventure. ... Channel keep watching, more days to come :)
Totally agree on the 2024 Goldwing seat. My 2012 was so comfortable and I had concerns with the new seat, not any more. The 2024 is just as comfortable to me as the 2012, I have done 11 hours in the saddle with no issues. Love the 2024 manual transmission Wing, amazing ride. I’m getting 42 mpg consistently at 75 mph, Arkansas mountains last weekend. 52 mpg. Good enough for me, approximately 6 mpg better than the 2012 Wing. Best Bike I have ever been on period.
I use a short velcro strap applied around front brake lever/hand grip as alternative when parking brake fails to engage. Agree Honda should find more reliable system for DCT model. Thanks for your channel.
My only concern is that keeps the hydraulic hoses under pressure, perhaps causing them to stretch or weaken over time. I am looking into this for a possible future solution.
If I use the Velcro strap, it would only be for a few minutes just to take pictures along the way and not an extended time. But it's better than the bike rolling off the kickstand or sliding backward. 👍
@@cruisemansgarage - I’ve just bought a front brake lock. This was after parking in town in Ireland on a steep incline and talking about malicious release of the parking brake, and the potential damage to callipers from disk locks-and rolling forward “unsupervised.” Do you believe the constant pressure on brake hoses is a significant concern with brake lever locks?
I installed on my 2021 Honda Goldwing DCT Tour the Goldstrike Chrome 3-Way Adjustable Highway Peg Mounts w/Twin Rail Pegs (60305) and agree with your review. They have made my long-distance road trips a lot more comfortable.
Hi Cruiseman, I certainly agree with you that the Goldwing is the best touring motorcycle! Of course, I recently did a similar trip to CO over a 4 day weekend. I agree that a backrest helps on a long ride. When I got back, I put the Goldstrike highway pegs on my bike. Ride safely!
A couple of years ago, a friend & I rode to Cripple Creek, Colorado, during which I got 57 mpg on 2 tankfuls & 58 on a 3rd. Now we were riding fairly conservatively, but a year later, I got about the same results on the same 2018 Goldwing DCT, to Loveland. I was amazed, but can't explain why it occurred, as i generally don't get the same mileage in California. Maybe I misbehave more here. In Colorado, I realized I forgot to adjust the parking brake prior to leaving, with it not holding as per your experience, but I broke out the tools, adjusted it, & it worked fine for the rest on the trip, even on some steep inclines. I've since had knee replacement surgery, so no riding updates.
Hey Cruiseman! Congratulations on a spectacular road trip, it sounds like you and Robert had big fun! I took a trip across country to Atlanta, GA from San Diego, CA and back through Arizona/Grand Canyon, in June! I didn't keep any milage records, but did check milage periodically and I got 52/53 mpg and I used 87octane all the way there and back. My Goldwing is a 2023 DCT. I'm glad you and Robert had mostly a trouble free trip as I did with the exception of the park brake issue/low tire pressure. Loyal (Slingshot).
I'm so glad that you and Robert got to have this trip together! And yes, what awesome bikes these Goldwings are and we're so lucky to have the chance to own and ride.Gotta have that 20" F4, a good back rest and highway pegs.👍
I have a 2018 Gold Wing DCT and it's parking brake performed similarly. It is a cable linkage and if you worked with brakes in the 1960s they are the same design and very easy to adjust. A one time adjustment at the rear hub and the brake has worked flawlessly for the past 5 years.
Great Videos. Watching you and Robert I finally traded in my 2024 Harley for a 2024 Goldwing and I should have bought a Goldwing a long time ago. Thanks 👍
I had a 2018 manual and had gotten around 51 mpg . My 2021 dct is around 45 mpg. I just got back from a 2700-mile trip , and the bike was flawless. Milwaukee to Rapid City S.D and back home. Happy trails.
If your handbrake doesn't work, your rear wheel is poorly balanced. You can find out by starting the motorcycle on the main stand, shifting into gear and adding gas. If the motorcycle shakes, the brake disc will also shake, which will wear down the brake pads.
Great video Cruiseman! When I bought my Sena Impulse helmet it came with a dongle that plugs into a USB-C cable on one end, and the proprietary Sena Impulse connector on the other end. I put a USB A and C charging line (from the battery) in my Goldwing trunk. Whenever I stop for more than 10 minutes, be it to stretch, get a cup of coffee, have some lunch, or whatever, I plug in my helmet. The helmet has yet to run out on me on any given day as a result. And the charging amperage is low enough that I am not worried about it killing my bikes battery.
@@cruisemansgarage The little dongle that was included with the current Sena Impulse comes on a little loop string thingy... I just tied it to the end of a USB-Cable so I can easily attached the dongle to the helmet and charge it up. I take it from your video / comments that your helmet did not come with such a dongle in the box?
Cruiseman My Sena Impulse helmet came with an adapter that you plug a USB-C cable into and the other end has the magnetic connection for the helmet. This would allow someone to charge the battery on the helmet while riding.
I have a 21 DCT. Gets 48+ mpg consistently. (with air deflectors) Bigger windshield raised higher makes a noticeable difference. I noticed this in the past with a friend who likes to ride with it raised way up. Not scientific but the only thing we came up with.
Hi Chris-Nicely done on the post trip review. 2 things for you. Number 1-My average mileage when our Group 66 Club rode around Lake Superior was right at 47.0 MPG across 1450 miles. Number 2- I had to laugh a little when you spoke about how much you (Cruiseman) liked Cruise Control! You can't make this up! Cheers.
A Goldwing from the 4th generation on is a very good choice to go touring with. We don't have to get the 2024 model. Still, it's a good video especially with how you the bike and the accessories served both of you on the road trip.
My 2024 spends most of its time as a commuter in town. My in town milage is averaging 32 MPG. When I am out on the highway, I get in the mid 40's. I haven't had much of a chance to get it out on the road and just let it run. Compared to my 2015 Goldwing, the in town was 26 MPG and the highway was 37 MPG so to me this is a significant improvement in milage and performance.
I just got home from a 5,000 mile road trip on my white 2018 DCT Tour with 45k miles on the clock. FWIW, I’ll briefly share my report, much of it similar to yours: Motorcycle: The bike of course performed flawlessly, except my brakes got mushy, and there was a howling sound when I applied the front brakes at highway speeds. My parking brake was also useless, but I did forget to release it a couple of times before. Petformance and MPG: The BT Moto tune really lights up the bike, but I also experienced slow speed lurching in Tour mode, to the point where I had to ride around small towns and parking lots in Rain mode. At highway speeds, I still need to drop it a gear to quickly pass traffic. I probably ride a little more aggressively than you do, and MPG averaged 45. It dropped to 34 MPG riding 80 MPH through headwinds on I80 from CA to UT. Playing Valentino Rossi in Sport mode in the twisties also saw an MPG drop Ergos: The combination of Corbin seat, highway pegs and Klock Werks recurve windshield worked great for my6’5” self. The seat sits me 2” further back and puts my in a sport touring lean, which is what I’m used to and great on my back and neck. I don’t have my backrest on because it interferes with my airbag vest, so I leaned against my backpack strapped to the rear seat (Roc Straps are awesome!). Only problem was a stinging feeling in my butt after a few hours. I have tried several ways to eliminate it, but nothing has worked so far. Visibility: my first trip with my Clearwater Erica auxillary lights, I normally keep them near the lowest setting, and man I was seen! I could tell it from the behavior of traffic around me. The highest setting will pierce your eyeballs, but I had them on when I was riding a mountain road at night, and it was like riding in daylight. I spotted critters way before having to react. Other lighting like Pathfinder LED cowl lights, bright fog lights, lower rear side case lights, modular brake lights, etc. all were great. Gadgets: Problems with CarPlay, Sena 20S, iPhone 13 and Carlinkit staying connected. Initial connection was good after following your settings advice, but spontaneous disconnects and reconnects still occurred. I suspect the Sena is the culprit since it also happens when I connect directly to CarPlay. Overall, it’s a fussy process to use all this stuff. Made me long for the days with my simple Triumph Trophy where all I had to do was keep it running, keep the oil and gas leaks to a minimum and cast a spell on the Lucas electrics so they would actually do something. Climate: Temp ranges were from 40-104F, and a day of rain. My riding gear adapted well once I anticipated better what layers to use. We take this for granted, but the lack of heat from the engine cooking my legs is a godsend! Storage: I learned how to pack light over my LD trips, so there was adequate space for everything, including a cooler for food I pack (I avoid taking it in the shorts with high gas statin roadkill and fast food joint prices). Nothing to store my helmet in is the drawback, a problem I didn’t have with my old Roadglide I can add more if anybody wants
Re: seats. I’ve used a BeadRider seat accessory on a BMWK75RT, two ST1300s, a BMW R90/6 and my current 2015 Goldwing Anniversary edition. This addition it my seats, one was a Corbin that I found very hard, really helped me. I’ve never had back trouble, only Hot Spots on my tail.
Wish I could get my carlinkit to work. - Love my wing and glad I got it.. I get 46mpg average with 2 up riding -2018 manual. And that is mostly city riding
Chris, great vlog. Regarding fuel economy I would suggest it was a wind drag issue in conjunction with lower Ron ( value fuel ) - the Honda’s are well renowned for slow recalibration when it comes to higher / lower Ron rated fuels especially in high elevations ( it has something too do with anti knock protection system) - they also recalibrated the volumetric injector pulse to assist in higher temp / catalytic efficiency too meet the increasing higher emissions requirements. I am eagerly waiting on the release of the 50th Anniversary Edition. Stay safe/ Stay upright my friend 👍👍- as far as the handbrake - I just don’t understand why they don’t use a E brake or a small hydraulic actuator purely for safety reasons ( just a thought )
With my 2018, it easily gets low 50's overal on my road trips...high 50's in the mountains with the lower speeds on the twisty roads..with my local rides high 40's to 50 mpg in the summer months...winter time a bit less. Ive never seen mileage below 40mpg using regular gasoline.
Cruiseman - I have a 2021 bagger model GW DCT with 28,000 miles on it. The best gas mileage I have ever had was 52 mpg on a recent trip on the twisty mountain roads of eastern Tennessee. Highway mileage is always less, usually around 42-45 mpg. I always use 87 octane. I see no reason for Premium, since Honda does not recommend it. My longest days have been just over 600 miles. The stock seat works well for me. No problem doing 10-12 hours. I have adjusted the parking brake at the back wheel when needed, and I agree this is not a good design for an otherwise great bike. I would also like to see more powerful stereo speakers installed on the next model. I have ridden with several clubs, and have never seen anyone else with a brake-free helmet light. I am surprised that they have not sold more in the Mid-Atlantic areas where I ride. My new Sena Impulse helmet worked well when communicating with a BMW riding partner. Good clear connection until we became completely separated.
I can't speak from personal experience since I have been riding my '82 GL1100 Interstate for the past 32 years, but you might look at what could cause your lower gas mileage. Wind resistance - probably not because you have the same windshield and deflectors as on your 2018. The increase in trunk size shouldn't make a difference and wouldn't explain the difference between your bike and Don's. Drag somewhere in the drivetrain. Also, are your brakes dragging slightly. A difference in tune on your individual bike that could cause it to run a little bit richer. You might benefit from having DFW Honda take a look at it. I've been subscribed for years and always watch your videos. They let me ride a newer bike vicariously through you.
I wonder if the DFW Honda service manager (Jacob) would have any thoughts on your mileage difference with Robert? On a trip I took to the Smokies, my 2021 DCT averaged 47-48 on regular unleaded. In that arena, I was handily outperforming all my buddies who were riding with me (two Harleys, one ~2006 Goldwing). I don't have a custom windshield or any air deflectors. Thanks for your trip recap - as always, it was very helpful and informative!
I'm having the same gas mileage experience. I could easily get 50 mpg on my 2018 DCT if I was running less than 75 mph. My 2023 6 speed manual (9,000 miles) is averaging 45 mpg. Lowest I've gotten has been 36 running 80 mph with slight head wind in South Dakota and my best has been 52 with a tank of non-ethanol premium riding 65 mph in South Dakota. My friend has a 2018 manual tranny and on a recent trip he was getting 4 to 5 more mpg than me. My 2023 also feels like it has less power than my 2018 did.
Ed, there’s an incline you don’t really see in the video that would have made it difficult to get the bike off the center stand. Honda really needs to address that parking brake. I shouldn’t have to lift a finger. 👍🏻🙂
I recently road a 4,038 mile trip from FL to ME to New Brunswick, and averaged 50.2 mpg on my 2022 DCT . Blue and Red Goldwings get better mileage than White Goldwings.
I loved my 19 goldwing but its tune Honda updates the tech with radar cruise control as well as adding extra power to the engine. I totaled mine unfortunately and bought a K1600 GTl. Took some work but I have it almost as comfortable as my goldwing. I do miss the dct and parking mode but the power on the bmw is so intoxicating compared to the Honda . Not to mention the 7 gallon gas tank allows quite a bit of extra mileage between stops. Both are excellent bikes!
My 2021 DCT is my eighth Gold Wing. By far, all-day comfort is my biggest requirement in a touring bike and that is where the Gen 6 falls short of the other generations. I was not surprised that I had to buy a better saddle, windscreen and air deflectors to improve the comfort but you should not have to do that on a $30,000 motorcycle. It would not cost Honda any more to just build it right in the factory.
I agree with you on the parking brake, Honda should have done better. What I do is I keep a Velcro strap in my center storage box just in case the parking brake doesn't want to hold I can use it to hold the front brake lever on. For gas mileage on my 22 I'm getting 49 to 54 miles per gallon and i drive slightly aggressive. My buddy and I did a road trip slightly of 3000 miles and I was getting better mpg. We both have 2022 models. I was using a gallon less it seemed at each gas stop. Don't know if its related but his is one of the motors that has the tick when first started cold.
Excellent review. Now Not to derail your comment section, but my Can Am Spyder only got 32 MPG in 14440 miles of ownership, my Harley twin cam 103 gets between 37-40 but I have to admit I am a bit of a hooligan on the throttle... ok ok i'm a lot of a hooligan on the big twin 😁.
i traded in my 2018 for an indian pursuit dark horse. to be honest i dont miss the gold wing at all. the review you did previously was pretty spot on, but i think your still boased towards the gold wing. my biggect complaint is opposit of yours. i find the ride command problematic and not as bluetooth friendly as the gold wing. it has a tendancy to lose connection and is difficult to get bluetooth audio to the passenger, so we listen to the speakers which are a far better than the GW. also i consistantly get 50 MPG on Indian and i dont thinkl the GW was getting that mpg. in any case i think it comes down to preference. i like the V twin and i like being able to put my feet on floor boards and stretch out. i also find the Indian factory seat gives me no issues on long rides where as the GW left me sore on long rides.
Great video. As far a your MPG, could your odometer be possibly showing less miles traveled than actual? Maybe a 20 or 30 mile run over a known distance, maybe compare to a 4 wheel vehicle you own. You could compare to GPS distance with your odo also.
This is referring to the parking brake, I just don't trust it even when it is adjusted correctly, anytime I park on a hill I add peace of mind and put an S hook on front brake lever to handlebars, I can't add a photo here, I could if it would let me.
Thanks for the excellent review. I have a 2016 and looking to upgrade in 2025. But my question is: how were the headlights? I was told from a couple owners that they could be better. Sorry to hear about the E-Brake issue. You are right. Not acceptable!!
my 2022 tour DCT consistently gets 46 mpg. i'm confused by your tire pressure setting. doesn't honda recommend 36 front 41 rear? i would think putting 41 in the front would cause an alarm indication once it got hot. my tires easily gain 5-6 lbs from cold to hot.
Hi,doesn’t putting the bike in reverse stop the bike rolling back? Better than using a rock! From experience 6peed Wings average 8-10 mpg more.Richard Cottingham
Why do you need a CARLIN KIT.. if the bike comes w’ Apple Car Play & Android from the factory (??) I’m just Bluetooth’ing from my phone to the speakers 🔊
To use Apple Carplay/Android Auto on a Goldwing, you have to have your phone plugged into the bike through the USB port, unless you have a wireless adapter like Carlinkit.
I always enjoy post ride/debrief videos. Just curious if your friends Gold Wind is also has a DCT transmission. Curious if there's much of a mileage difference between a manual vs a DCT.
Is it possible that your parking brake cable is sticking, causing a bit of drag? Hence, what caused your parking brake to loose grip and loose fuel mileage?
I am curious if your parking brake isn’t fully releasing when disengaged all the time. This would explain lower fuel efficiency and early wear of the parking brake…..
Does anyone offer a mod to make the 2024 Goldwing quieter? I just my 2024 Tour DCT and don't prefer the rumble and throaty drone Honda added in the 2018MY. I love the bike but would like it to be quieter - closer to the older GW or ST1300. Thanks, John
I just completed a 10,000+ mile trip on my 2018 DCT Airbag Tour. It was an 8 week trip broken up for two months following an accident in Sheboygan, Wisconsin. My rear tire slid right out from under me at a circle intersection. I cannot explain it. I suffered a fractured rib and scapula. The bike and I we’re both ready two months later. My bike now has over 102,000 miles. I love the bike. I am thinking about triking it. Do you have any recommendations??
I ahve a 2020 Ducati Multistrada 1260. In 30k mi, I have averaged 50.1 mpg. Can you stand on the pegs on the hhgiway on the Gold Wing. Standing on the pegs intemittently on my Ducati allows me to ride over 500 mi/day in comfort.
I have a 22 tour gas got much better at 8,000 now at 30,000 driving average 55 to 60 mph l got 55 miles per gallon at 87 octane but total average is 46 to 50 miles at 300 ft sea level
Also, did Robert always put less fuel in? Do your speedometers match up, same trip count numbers? Both riding in tour mode? Drive side by side from a stop, are your shift points the same? Just wondering if Honda has different fuel mapping in the 24 compared to the 23?
We were both topping off our tanks as full as we could get them. It is possible that one of us filled more than the other, but I doubt by more than a cup or two of fuel. Not enough to make for a consistent 4-5 mpg discrepency.
IF the Goldwing wasn't capable, this would be a SHORT video! And the next question would be WHAT motorcycle would take over top place? LOL, Ride on Goldwingers!
My 23 averages between 46 to 50. Premium fuel will not increase your mileage. Ethanol free will definitely increase your mileage. The problem is finding it in most locations.
As the owner of a 2018 wing, I was disappointed that you spent most of the time talking about the accessories you’ve added, rather than comparing the newer bike to the older model. I take it there aren’t many upgrades and improvements besides a slightly better seat and a larger trunk?
I had a 2004 Goldwing super reliable but the most boring motorcycle I have ever owned. I got tired of moving around this heavy pig and worrying about every intersection oh god gravel all over will the pig tip over. I hope the super anal obsession isn't your normal mode and just for sake of the video.
A comprehensive and thorough review that I agree with completely. What a machine we own. It enhanced the road trip experience, did not take a way from it. Thank you Cruiseman for joining me on this epic adventure. ... Channel keep watching, more days to come :)
Totally agree on the 2024 Goldwing seat. My 2012 was so comfortable and I had concerns with the new seat, not any more. The 2024 is just as comfortable to me as the 2012, I have done 11 hours in the saddle with no issues. Love the 2024 manual transmission Wing, amazing ride. I’m getting 42 mpg consistently at 75 mph, Arkansas mountains last weekend. 52 mpg. Good enough for me, approximately 6 mpg better than the 2012 Wing. Best Bike I have ever been on period.
I use a short velcro strap applied around front brake lever/hand grip as alternative when parking brake fails to engage. Agree Honda should find more reliable system for DCT model. Thanks for your channel.
Didn't even think about doing that... It's a great Idea and I will have to carry some velcro with me. Thanks for your comment
My only concern is that keeps the hydraulic hoses under pressure, perhaps causing them to stretch or weaken over time. I am looking into this for a possible future solution.
If I use the Velcro strap, it would only be for a few minutes just to take pictures along the way and not an extended time. But it's better than the bike rolling off the kickstand or sliding backward. 👍
@@cruisemansgarage - I’ve just bought a front brake lock. This was after parking in town in Ireland on a steep incline and talking about malicious release of the parking brake, and the potential damage to callipers from disk locks-and rolling forward “unsupervised.” Do you believe the constant pressure on brake hoses is a significant concern with brake lever locks?
I installed on my 2021 Honda Goldwing DCT Tour the Goldstrike Chrome 3-Way Adjustable Highway Peg Mounts w/Twin Rail Pegs (60305) and agree with your review. They have made my long-distance road trips a lot more comfortable.
Hi Cruiseman, I certainly agree with you that the Goldwing is the best touring motorcycle! Of course, I recently did a similar trip to CO over a 4 day weekend. I agree that a backrest helps on a long ride. When I got back, I put the Goldstrike highway pegs on my bike. Ride safely!
Nice video- the BrakeFree is awesome and the battery life way outperforms the specs given
A couple of years ago, a friend & I rode to Cripple Creek, Colorado, during which I got 57 mpg on 2 tankfuls & 58 on a 3rd. Now we were riding fairly conservatively, but a year later, I got about the same results on the same 2018 Goldwing DCT, to Loveland. I was amazed, but can't explain why it occurred, as i generally don't get the same mileage in California. Maybe I misbehave more here. In Colorado, I realized I forgot to adjust the parking brake prior to leaving, with it not holding as per your experience, but I broke out the tools, adjusted it, & it worked fine for the rest on the trip, even on some steep inclines. I've since had knee replacement surgery, so no riding updates.
Mileage performance will considerably improve at higher altitudes.
Hey Cruiseman!
Congratulations on a spectacular road trip, it sounds like you and Robert had big fun! I took a trip across country to Atlanta, GA from San Diego, CA and back through Arizona/Grand Canyon, in June! I didn't keep any milage records, but did check milage periodically and I got 52/53 mpg and I used 87octane all the way there and back. My Goldwing is a 2023 DCT. I'm glad you and Robert had mostly a trouble free trip as I did with the exception of the park brake issue/low tire pressure.
Loyal (Slingshot).
I'm so glad that you and Robert got to have this trip together! And yes, what awesome bikes these Goldwings are and we're so lucky to have the chance to own and ride.Gotta have that 20" F4, a good back rest and highway pegs.👍
I have a 2018 Gold Wing DCT and it's parking brake performed similarly. It is a cable linkage and if you worked with brakes in the 1960s they are the same design and very easy to adjust. A one time adjustment at the rear hub and the brake has worked flawlessly for the past 5 years.
Great Videos. Watching you and Robert I finally traded in my 2024 Harley for a 2024 Goldwing and I should have bought a Goldwing a long time ago. Thanks 👍
Good choice!
Congrats on the new bike !!
I have a 2018 manual and I get 48-52 consistently. Thanks for the review Cruiseman.
Dittos here, on my 2018 manual...
Same here, rode 228 miles today, 52mpg. 2020 manual.
I had a 2018 manual and had gotten around 51 mpg . My 2021 dct is around 45 mpg.
I just got back from a 2700-mile trip , and the bike was flawless.
Milwaukee to Rapid City S.D and back home.
Happy trails.
Spot on what I get with my 2018 manual.
If your handbrake doesn't work, your rear wheel is poorly balanced. You can find out by starting the motorcycle on the main stand, shifting into gear and adding gas. If the motorcycle shakes, the brake disc will also shake, which will wear down the brake pads.
Great video Cruiseman! When I bought my Sena Impulse helmet it came with a dongle that plugs into a USB-C cable on one end, and the proprietary Sena Impulse connector on the other end. I put a USB A and C charging line (from the battery) in my Goldwing trunk. Whenever I stop for more than 10 minutes, be it to stretch, get a cup of coffee, have some lunch, or whatever, I plug in my helmet. The helmet has yet to run out on me on any given day as a result. And the charging amperage is low enough that I am not worried about it killing my bikes battery.
I think the next version of the Impulse will come with a USB-C charge port.
@@cruisemansgarage The little dongle that was included with the current Sena Impulse comes on a little loop string thingy... I just tied it to the end of a USB-Cable so I can easily attached the dongle to the helmet and charge it up. I take it from your video / comments that your helmet did not come with such a dongle in the box?
Cruiseman My Sena Impulse helmet came with an adapter that you plug a USB-C cable into and the other end has the magnetic connection for the helmet.
This would allow someone to charge the battery on the helmet while riding.
I have a 21 DCT. Gets 48+ mpg consistently. (with air deflectors) Bigger windshield raised higher makes a noticeable difference. I noticed this in the past with a friend who likes to ride with it raised way up. Not scientific but the only thing we came up with.
Hi Chris-Nicely done on the post trip review. 2 things for you. Number 1-My average mileage when our Group 66 Club rode around Lake Superior was right at 47.0 MPG across 1450 miles. Number 2- I had to laugh a little when you spoke about how much you (Cruiseman) liked Cruise Control! You can't make this up! Cheers.
A Goldwing from the 4th generation on is a very good choice to go touring with. We don't have to get the 2024 model. Still, it's a good video especially with how you the bike and the accessories served both of you on the road trip.
My 2024 spends most of its time as a commuter in town. My in town milage is averaging 32 MPG. When I am out on the highway, I get in the mid 40's. I haven't had much of a chance to get it out on the road and just let it run. Compared to my 2015 Goldwing, the in town was 26 MPG and the highway was 37 MPG so to me this is a significant improvement in milage and performance.
I just got home from a 5,000 mile road trip on my white 2018 DCT Tour with 45k miles on the clock. FWIW, I’ll briefly share my report, much of it similar to yours:
Motorcycle: The bike of course performed flawlessly, except my brakes got mushy, and there was a howling sound when I applied the front brakes at highway speeds. My parking brake was also useless, but I did forget to release it a couple of times before.
Petformance and MPG: The BT Moto tune really lights up the bike, but I also experienced slow speed lurching in Tour mode, to the point where I had to ride around small towns and parking lots in Rain mode. At highway speeds, I still need to drop it a gear to quickly pass traffic. I probably ride a little more aggressively than you do, and MPG averaged 45. It dropped to 34 MPG riding 80 MPH through headwinds on I80 from CA to UT. Playing Valentino Rossi in Sport mode in the twisties also saw an MPG drop
Ergos: The combination of Corbin seat, highway pegs and Klock Werks recurve windshield worked great for my6’5” self. The seat sits me 2” further back and puts my in a sport touring lean, which is what I’m used to and great on my back and neck. I don’t have my backrest on because it interferes with my airbag vest, so I leaned against my backpack strapped to the rear seat (Roc Straps are awesome!). Only problem was a stinging feeling in my butt after a few hours. I have tried several ways to eliminate it, but nothing has worked so far.
Visibility: my first trip with my Clearwater Erica auxillary lights, I normally keep them near the lowest setting, and man I was seen! I could tell it from the behavior of traffic around me. The highest setting will pierce your eyeballs, but I had them on when I was riding a mountain road at night, and it was like riding in daylight. I spotted critters way before having to react. Other lighting like Pathfinder LED cowl lights, bright fog lights, lower rear side case lights, modular brake lights, etc. all were great.
Gadgets: Problems with CarPlay, Sena 20S, iPhone 13 and Carlinkit staying connected. Initial connection was good after following your settings advice, but spontaneous disconnects and reconnects still occurred. I suspect the Sena is the culprit since it also happens when I connect directly to CarPlay. Overall, it’s a fussy process to use all this stuff. Made me long for the days with my simple Triumph Trophy where all I had to do was keep it running, keep the oil and gas leaks to a minimum and cast a spell on the Lucas electrics so they would actually do something.
Climate: Temp ranges were from 40-104F, and a day of rain. My riding gear adapted well once I anticipated better what layers to use. We take this for granted, but the lack of heat from the engine cooking my legs is a godsend!
Storage: I learned how to pack light over my LD trips, so there was adequate space for everything, including a cooler for food I pack (I avoid taking it in the shorts with high gas statin roadkill and fast food joint prices). Nothing to store my helmet in is the drawback, a problem I didn’t have with my old Roadglide
I can add more if anybody wants
Re: seats. I’ve used a BeadRider seat accessory on a BMWK75RT, two ST1300s, a BMW R90/6 and my current 2015 Goldwing Anniversary edition. This addition it my seats, one was a Corbin that I found very hard, really helped me. I’ve never had back trouble, only Hot Spots on my tail.
Wish I could get my carlinkit to work. - Love my wing and glad I got it.. I get 46mpg average with 2 up riding -2018 manual. And that is mostly city riding
@@DonKruse.Wing-Rider next time you come to breakfast bring the Carlinkit and we will try to get it working.
@@cruisemansgarage Will do. Very frustrating can't get mine or the one I borrowed from Robert to work
Chris, great vlog. Regarding fuel economy I would suggest it was a wind drag issue in conjunction with lower Ron ( value fuel ) - the Honda’s are well renowned for slow recalibration when it comes to higher / lower Ron rated fuels especially in high elevations ( it has something too do with anti knock protection system) - they also recalibrated the volumetric injector pulse to assist in higher temp / catalytic efficiency too meet the increasing higher emissions requirements. I am eagerly waiting on the release of the 50th Anniversary Edition. Stay safe/ Stay upright my friend 👍👍- as far as the handbrake - I just don’t understand why they don’t use a E brake or a small hydraulic actuator purely for safety reasons ( just a thought )
Thanks, CM. Good information as I prepare for my upcoming trip to Texas for breakfast on October 27th. Look forward to seeing you guys.
Sounds great!
Look forward to meeting you Mac!
@@roadglide Same here, Road Glide.
With my 2018, it easily gets low 50's overal on my road trips...high 50's in the mountains with the lower speeds on the twisty roads..with my local rides high 40's to 50 mpg in the summer months...winter time a bit less. Ive never seen mileage below 40mpg using regular gasoline.
Cruiseman - I have a 2021 bagger model GW DCT with 28,000 miles on it. The best gas mileage I have ever had was 52 mpg on a recent trip on the twisty mountain roads of eastern Tennessee. Highway mileage is always less, usually around 42-45 mpg. I always use 87 octane. I see no reason for Premium, since Honda does not recommend it. My longest days have been just over 600 miles. The stock seat works well for me. No problem doing 10-12 hours. I have adjusted the parking brake at the back wheel when needed, and I agree this is not a good design for an otherwise great bike. I would also like to see more powerful stereo speakers installed on the next model. I have ridden with several clubs, and have never seen anyone else with a brake-free helmet light. I am surprised that they have not sold more in the Mid-Atlantic areas where I ride. My new Sena Impulse helmet worked well when communicating with a BMW riding partner. Good clear connection until we became completely separated.
I can't speak from personal experience since I have been riding my '82 GL1100 Interstate for the past 32 years, but you might look at what could cause your lower gas mileage.
Wind resistance - probably not because you have the same windshield and deflectors as on your 2018. The increase in trunk size shouldn't make a difference and wouldn't explain the difference between your bike and Don's.
Drag somewhere in the drivetrain. Also, are your brakes dragging slightly.
A difference in tune on your individual bike that could cause it to run a little bit richer.
You might benefit from having DFW Honda take a look at it.
I've been subscribed for years and always watch your videos. They let me ride a newer bike vicariously through you.
I wonder if the DFW Honda service manager (Jacob) would have any thoughts on your mileage difference with Robert? On a trip I took to the Smokies, my 2021 DCT averaged 47-48 on regular unleaded. In that arena, I was handily outperforming all my buddies who were riding with me (two Harleys, one ~2006 Goldwing). I don't have a custom windshield or any air deflectors. Thanks for your trip recap - as always, it was very helpful and informative!
I'm having the same gas mileage experience. I could easily get 50 mpg on my 2018 DCT if I was running less than 75 mph. My 2023 6 speed manual (9,000 miles) is averaging 45 mpg. Lowest I've gotten has been 36 running 80 mph with slight head wind in South Dakota and my best has been 52 with a tank of non-ethanol premium riding 65 mph in South Dakota. My friend has a 2018 manual tranny and on a recent trip he was getting 4 to 5 more mpg than me. My 2023 also feels like it has less power than my 2018 did.
I was surprised you just didn't put the bike on the center stand to keep it from rolling on the side stand on the inclines when parking.
Ed, there’s an incline you don’t really see in the video that would have made it difficult to get the bike off the center stand. Honda really needs to address that parking brake. I shouldn’t have to lift a finger. 👍🏻🙂
I recently road a 4,038 mile trip from FL to ME to New Brunswick, and averaged 50.2 mpg on my 2022 DCT . Blue and Red Goldwings get better mileage than White Goldwings.
One thing about the mileage to look at is the actual mileage. My 2015 is off by .01 every 10 miles. Just something to look at.
I loved my 19 goldwing but its tune Honda updates the tech with radar cruise control as well as adding extra power to the engine. I totaled mine unfortunately and bought a K1600 GTl. Took some work but I have it almost as comfortable as my goldwing. I do miss the dct and parking mode but the power on the bmw is so intoxicating compared to the Honda . Not to mention the 7 gallon gas tank allows quite a bit of extra mileage between stops. Both are excellent bikes!
Those BMWs are exciting to ride.
My 2021 DCT is my eighth Gold Wing. By far, all-day comfort is my biggest requirement in a touring bike and that is where the Gen 6 falls short of the other generations. I was not surprised that I had to buy a better saddle, windscreen and air deflectors to improve the comfort but you should not have to do that on a $30,000 motorcycle. It would not cost Honda any more to just build it right in the factory.
I agree with you on the parking brake, Honda should have done better. What I do is I keep a Velcro strap in my center storage box just in case the parking brake doesn't want to hold I can use it to hold the front brake lever on.
For gas mileage on my 22 I'm getting 49 to 54 miles per gallon and i drive slightly aggressive. My buddy and I did a road trip slightly of 3000 miles and I was getting better mpg. We both have 2022 models. I was using a gallon less it seemed at each gas stop. Don't know if its related but his is one of the motors that has the tick when first started cold.
Excellent review. Now Not to derail your comment section, but my Can Am Spyder only got 32 MPG in 14440 miles of ownership, my Harley twin cam 103 gets between 37-40 but I have to admit I am a bit of a hooligan on the throttle... ok ok i'm a lot of a hooligan on the big twin 😁.
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When do you think we are going to see the 2025 model release? will it be this year?
We should see something by November.
i traded in my 2018 for an indian pursuit dark horse. to be honest i dont miss the gold wing at all. the review you did previously was pretty spot on, but i think your still boased towards the gold wing. my biggect complaint is opposit of yours. i find the ride command problematic and not as bluetooth friendly as the gold wing. it has a tendancy to lose connection and is difficult to get bluetooth audio to the passenger, so we listen to the speakers which are a far better than the GW. also i consistantly get 50 MPG on Indian and i dont thinkl the GW was getting that mpg. in any case i think it comes down to preference. i like the V twin and i like being able to put my feet on floor boards and stretch out. i also find the Indian factory seat gives me no issues on long rides where as the GW left me sore on long rides.
With the gas milage, you may want to do a compression test on all six cylinders??
Great report!
Can you talk a little bit about the drive modes and suspension settings you used during the trip?
TOUR mode and Rider w/luggage
@@cruisemansgarage hi,on the six speed selecting reverse stops the bike rolling,surely that’s the same on DCT.Richard Cottingham.
My older SENA SRL on a Shoei NeoTech II turns off communications when connected to the USB-B power source.
Great video, other than the audio. I enjoy your content thoroughly.
Great video. As far a your MPG, could your odometer be possibly showing less miles traveled than actual? Maybe a 20 or 30 mile run over a known distance, maybe compare to a 4 wheel vehicle you own. You could compare to GPS distance with your odo also.
This is referring to the parking brake, I just don't trust it even when it is adjusted correctly, anytime I park on a hill I add peace of mind and put an S hook on front brake lever to handlebars, I can't add a photo here, I could if it would let me.
Love watching your videos. And I'm wanting to get a newer one. But little scared of the big problem with the motor and transmission
On a Honda, my LAST concern would be engine and transmission. They are virtually bulletproof.
Thanks for the excellent review. I have a 2016 and looking to upgrade in 2025. But my question is: how were the headlights? I was told from a couple owners that they could be better.
Sorry to hear about the E-Brake issue. You are right. Not acceptable!!
my 2022 tour DCT consistently gets 46 mpg. i'm confused by your tire pressure setting. doesn't honda recommend 36 front 41 rear? i would think putting 41 in the front would cause an alarm indication once it got hot. my tires easily gain 5-6 lbs from cold to hot.
My 2024 parking brake was not even adjusted correctly right off the floor. Instead of 3-5 clicks it was 7.
41 all round for tyre pressure? I run 36 F 41R which I thought was the recomended pressures, is there a reason you ran 41 on both
I think is a mistake
FANTTIK X8 APEX TIRE INFLATOR is $39.99 at Costco
Great video!
Great video exlant review
Hi,doesn’t putting the bike in reverse stop the bike rolling back? Better than using a rock! From experience 6peed Wings average 8-10 mpg more.Richard Cottingham
Why do you need a CARLIN KIT.. if the bike comes w’ Apple Car Play & Android from the factory (??) I’m just Bluetooth’ing from my phone to the speakers 🔊
To use Apple Carplay/Android Auto on a Goldwing, you have to have your phone plugged into the bike through the USB port, unless you have a wireless adapter like Carlinkit.
Yup, the E-Brake is terrible!! Could you have used a Velcro strap around the brake lever / hand grip and locked the front brakes??
@@robertlorentz3670 Hi ,select reverse.Richard Cottingham
The DCT automatically goes into neutral when you shut off the engine. It will disengage all gears, neutral included.
@@robertlorentz3670 Thanks now I know , Disengage neutral? Surely that means it won’t roll ?Richard.
disengage all gears =
It will roll 😃
@@robertlorentz3670 Hi , I think you need a higher IQ to cope with the DCT s little foibles !! Richard
I always enjoy post ride/debrief videos. Just curious if your friends Gold Wind is also has a DCT transmission. Curious if there's much of a mileage difference between a manual vs a DCT.
Yes, he also has a DCT.
Goldwings are wonderful machines, they just keep shrinking they should have left them bigger
Is it possible that your parking brake cable is sticking, causing a bit of drag? Hence, what caused your parking brake to loose grip and loose fuel mileage?
I see you have the highway peg pads mounted angled forward and not to the rear like the instructions say. Do you have a reason for this? Thanks
I am curious if your parking brake isn’t fully releasing when disengaged all the time. This would explain lower fuel efficiency and early wear of the parking brake…..
When I checked my parking brake, the rear wheel was spinning freely even when the brake handle was pulled up 3 stops. Good thought though.
@@cruisemansgarage was that after or before it was worn out?
Does anyone offer a mod to make the 2024 Goldwing quieter? I just my 2024 Tour DCT and don't prefer the rumble and throaty drone Honda added in the 2018MY. I love the bike but would like it to be quieter - closer to the older GW or ST1300. Thanks, John
I’ll take a link for your insulated garage door 😂
I just completed a 10,000+ mile trip on my 2018 DCT Airbag Tour. It was an 8 week trip broken up for two months following an accident in Sheboygan, Wisconsin. My rear tire slid right out from under me at a circle intersection. I cannot explain it. I suffered a fractured rib and scapula. The bike and I we’re both ready two months later. My bike now has over 102,000 miles. I love the bike. I am thinking about triking it. Do you have any recommendations??
The only trikes I am familiar with are from Motor Trike here in Texas. I am probably not the best person to advise on this.
I ahve a 2020 Ducati Multistrada 1260. In 30k mi, I have averaged 50.1 mpg. Can you stand on the pegs on the hhgiway on the Gold Wing. Standing on the pegs intemittently on my Ducati allows me to ride over 500 mi/day in comfort.
On long trips I plug my Cardo into a portable power pack while I have lunch.
I have a 22 tour gas got much better at 8,000 now at 30,000 driving average 55 to 60 mph l got 55 miles per gallon at 87 octane but total average is 46 to 50 miles at 300 ft sea level
Could the placement of ram mounts and cameras cause drag lowering the MPG?
@@scottg4669 not 4 to 5 mpg. Robert has the same mounts I have.
Great video! What did you have for wind deflectors on your older Wings? Apparently Baker Wind Wings went out of business.
I had the Baker Wings.
I get 43.5mpg on my 2022 (5.4 litres per 100)
speedo error causing the difference in mpg?
Is it possible that the wind deflectors could be causing resistance that could be effecting fuel milage??
I have the upper deflectors from Honda, but had them open half the time. Robert has the lower deflectors, which would cause even more wind resistance.
How about the F-4 windshield. Is his the same size as yours? a couple of inches in height over a large area would make a big drag difference.
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I didn’t know where else to ask you this I have a 2012 Goldwing the fifth gear is going bad. Would you recommend anyone to rebuild my transmission?
Post this question on my FB page. Someone will have an answer for you. facebook.com/groups/goldwingmaintenance/
A great review. Re the mpg and the parking brake issue, is it binding?? I’m in the UK with imperial gallons averaging 50 mpg (imp)
No, it was spinning freely.
Could your MPG issue be a result of your larger windscreen?
Robert essentially has the same windscreen. And, it is the same windscreen I had on my 2018, which got better mileage.
Also, did Robert always put less fuel in? Do your speedometers match up, same trip count numbers? Both riding in tour mode? Drive side by side from a stop, are your shift points the same? Just wondering if Honda has different fuel mapping in the 24 compared to the 23?
We were both topping off our tanks as full as we could get them. It is possible that one of us filled more than the other, but I doubt by more than a cup or two of fuel. Not enough to make for a consistent 4-5 mpg discrepency.
Kevin, I agree with different mapping… all other variables were virtually the same.
IF the Goldwing wasn't capable, this would be a SHORT video! And the next question would be WHAT motorcycle would take over top place? LOL, Ride on Goldwingers!
My 23 averages between 46 to 50. Premium fuel will not increase your mileage. Ethanol free will definitely increase your mileage. The problem is finding it in most locations.
The only place I know of here that sells Ethanol free is Buc-ees
Hi Chris- could it be F4 slipstream character is affecting your mpg?
@@betjoh Robert has the same windshield and, this is the same one I had on my 2018
As the owner of a 2018 wing, I was disappointed that you spent most of the time talking about the accessories you’ve added, rather than comparing the newer bike to the older model. I take it there aren’t many upgrades and improvements besides a slightly better seat and a larger trunk?
@@danrowley7002 find another video
If you stop and have lunch, plug in your Sena to a power bank, and it will be charged by the time you're done.
More alcohol in petrol, so you have more consumption.
You must consider the quality of the gas you draw. Lower quality will give you lower mileage. That's why i always use premium. Mileage is consistent.
Really unusual title. Is the Goldwing "still" a capable tourer? What? If it isn't, then one doesn't exist.
I had a 2004 Goldwing super reliable but the most boring motorcycle I have ever owned. I got tired of moving around this heavy pig and worrying about every intersection oh god gravel all over will the pig tip over. I hope the super anal obsession isn't your normal mode and just for sake of the video.