The Benoni: Lecture by GM Ben Finegold

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  • Опубліковано 25 бер 2024
  • This lecture was recorded March 18, 2024 in Roswell, Georgia. Thank you to Eric Osgood for sponsoring this lecture!!
    Games:
    02:09 Boris Spassky vs Bobby Fischer, 1972
    World Chess Championship Game 3
    18:09 Jonathan Penrose vs Mikhail Tal, Olympiad 1960
    28:33 Viktor Korchnoi vs Garry Kasparov, Olympiad 1982
    44:07 Garry Kasparov vs John Nunn, Olympiad 1982
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  • @sayandas5
    @sayandas5 2 місяці тому +53

    Go Ben!
    I mean Benoni

  • @beeble2003
    @beeble2003 2 місяці тому +37

    Great lecture from Neb Dlogenif. He looks like Ben Finegold but keeps suggesting f3 as a move, and doesn't say all the Ben things, like "always retreat", "no talking", "knife f4" (for Black), "put it in H", ...

    • @trowftd
      @trowftd Місяць тому +2

      he didn't say Never Play f6 when black played f6 in the last game!

  • @shadowfantasiesf8556
    @shadowfantasiesf8556 2 місяці тому +9

    I've watched almost all Benoni lessons on UA-cam and this one gave me a totally different perspective.
    Not focusing too much on the opening and instead showing how the middle games resolve makes me wanna master this.
    Very entertaining and also great games and stories.

  • @jogzyg2036
    @jogzyg2036 2 місяці тому +25

    The benoni opening is on the d and c files.
    The benkenobi opening is single file, to hide their numbers.

    • @peterittzes
      @peterittzes 2 місяці тому +2

      And you have to say "Hello there!" before you start the game.

  • @justsomeboyprobablydressed9579
    @justsomeboyprobablydressed9579 2 місяці тому +8

    Great lecture! This is why I love chess. Games like these. I get more enjoyment out of watching Ben talk about great games than I get out of playing chess myself.

  • @jaa928
    @jaa928 2 місяці тому +4

    Great timing with several Benoni games iin yesterday's Grenke top section. Go Ben!

  • @steven99456
    @steven99456 2 місяці тому +12

    thanks, I waited 4 years for this

  • @David-tm9wr
    @David-tm9wr 2 місяці тому +21

    So many people dismiss Benoni as an unsound opening because super GMs don't play it. Ridiculous. It seems to me that it's one of those openings in which the better player wins. It's a fighting weapon that gives interesting positions for both sides, and if it was good enough for Fischer in his match against Spassky, it's good enough for me! I am glad that you are lecturing on it.
    1.d4, c5 is the only true Chad move order too!

    • @mariamariamariazinha
      @mariamariamariazinha 2 місяці тому

      I agree, also Nice pfp

    • @pastorofmuppets4552
      @pastorofmuppets4552 2 місяці тому

      “The better player wins” Isn’t that just chess?

    • @12jswilson
      @12jswilson 2 місяці тому

      It's funny because just today Carlsen beat Keymer with the modern Benoni today in slow rapid format

    • @David-tm9wr
      @David-tm9wr Місяць тому +1

      @@mariamariamariazinha Thanks! Love the old MTV and Daria!

  • @fredflint3998
    @fredflint3998 2 місяці тому +9

    Great video Ben, I love that you used a Fischer game as an example. Very lucid straight forward explanations 👍.

  • @luxtenebris7246
    @luxtenebris7246 2 місяці тому +6

    I love the Benoni, but there is nothing worse than that feeling when you play it against a strong positional player and they just shut down all your play and you are stuck shuffling around in a cramped set up with no active plan that doesn't involve losing a lot of material.

  • @jasmint6703
    @jasmint6703 2 місяці тому +2

    Two exciting Benoni games were played in the Grenke tournament, basically just as this video was released, in like the last two or three days, both with Carlsen with both colors. Clearly the world champ watches these lectures with fervor. Seriously check out the games if you get a chance. Carlsen-Rapport and Keymer-Carlsen.

  • @Steveross2851
    @Steveross2851 2 місяці тому +3

    It’s interesting that all of the games in this lecture are over 40 years old with a current or future World Champion involved. The most recent “super Grandmaster” to play the Benoni seems to be Fabiano Caruana who played some games with it in 2016 and a few with it in 2020. It makes sense that it’s no longer seen much at the top level since there are so many more top level tournaments now but losing is also much more costly now in terms of risk of losing tournament invites. Because of its tactical nature it doesn’t seem to be a very practical opening to play unless one is paired down and even then as we saw in the featured Tal game it’s pretty risky. I don't play it myself, at least not unless I'm pretty confident I can outplay my opponent tactically.

  • @rodrigez5098
    @rodrigez5098 2 місяці тому +8

    Love the lectures Ben, i've been watching for years, thanks for all the content

  • @VFomalhaut
    @VFomalhaut 2 місяці тому +1

    I was just thinking about the benoni like 6 hours ago, and 4 hours ago you got this up. thanks!

  • @davyanonymous9674
    @davyanonymous9674 2 місяці тому

    Thank you, Ben. Very instructive.

  • @robbo1415
    @robbo1415 Місяць тому +1

    This game was adjourned with Fischer sealing the final bishop check in an envelope. Spassky resigned next day after seeing the sealed move. The first victory over Spassky in Fischer’s career.

  • @snared_
    @snared_ 2 місяці тому +1

    just coming from the czech benoni lecture. Thanks for the wins over the years,B

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety 2 місяці тому +3

    Jonathan Penrose's brother is pretty clever too.

  • @crclayton
    @crclayton 2 місяці тому +1

    That pawn break to NOT take back but leave the pawn to leave it and blockade it so it obstructs black’s own pieces is a really inspired idea if he came up with it OTB.

  • @mikhailnizayev
    @mikhailnizayev 2 місяці тому

    Thank you so much

    • @RaineriHakkarainen
      @RaineriHakkarainen 2 місяці тому

      Kaarle Ojanen vs Keres in 1960 should have been here! Penrose copy Ojanen's idea f5! Poor Finegold never mentonied said Spassky's Errors like g3????

  • @matthewpaul985
    @matthewpaul985 Місяць тому

    Thanks

  • @Evilanious
    @Evilanious 2 місяці тому +1

    That third game is in line with my experience playing the Benoni (normally from the white side). The position is always completely over my head.

  • @cryptosquirrel5667
    @cryptosquirrel5667 2 місяці тому

    Love the stories. they bring humanity to the game.

  • @cparks1000000
    @cparks1000000 2 місяці тому +1

    1:55 This is the most common position in the Benoni.

  • @lasshrugged
    @lasshrugged 2 місяці тому +9

    Where is the Ben bot? RAWR! I've never been so mad.

    • @monsignorjames
      @monsignorjames 2 місяці тому +2

      I was going to say this exact thing, word for word, RAWR Anne frankly I've never been so angry

  • @Neura1net
    @Neura1net 2 місяці тому +2

    Ben on the Benoni is benificial to my meded mind

  • @WastrelWay
    @WastrelWay 2 місяці тому +1

    I didn't learn the Benoni when I was learning to play chess. But it kept popping up in the games I learned. And there's nothing wrong with it as far as I can see, nothing worse than the Sicilian or the French. :-)

  • @WhizzerdSupreme
    @WhizzerdSupreme 2 місяці тому +3

    Little known rule: Always play c5
    1. E4? C5
    1. D4? C5
    1. C4? C5

    • @timwheeler8523
      @timwheeler8523 2 місяці тому +1

      All good except against c4! Boring .... (Against e4 and d4, yes!)

    • @NichtWunderkind
      @NichtWunderkind 2 місяці тому

      Against c4, Nc6 and then c5

    • @crclayton
      @crclayton 2 місяці тому +3

      I do this… I premove c5. When I was lower rated my d4 opponents would routinely think it was an accident try, to their detriment, taking and holding onto it.

    • @WhizzerdSupreme
      @WhizzerdSupreme 2 місяці тому +1

      @@crclayton Same! 🤣

  • @walterk.3576
    @walterk.3576 Місяць тому

    the best ben finegold show so far🥂

  • @ric1watts
    @ric1watts Місяць тому

    Korchnoi vs Kasparov, my favorite game of all-time ! Ben's analyses is very good, when I tried to look at it myself, I had no idea what was going on 😂

  • @alipakdin7372
    @alipakdin7372 2 місяці тому

    Hi Ben, That was a very nice lecture, thanks, I guess between your serious lectures and somewhat more humours ones, I like the serious ones better, but of course I like them both, Thanks alot our beloved GM

  • @TalsBadKidney
    @TalsBadKidney 2 місяці тому +1

    Go Ben!!

  • @toniright4932
    @toniright4932 2 місяці тому

    Uuu this is a good one. My favorite opening, my favorite World Campion, and of course my favorite Lektor B.F.

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety 2 місяці тому +1

    I don't know if the Benoni is the best opening, but I think it might be the opening that's the most fun to say a bunch of times fast.

  • @kozodoev
    @kozodoev 2 місяці тому

    Finally an opening named after Ben.

  • @ircjesselee
    @ircjesselee 2 місяці тому +1

    After age 60, it's hard to get a Benoni.

  • @isaacbragg-gardiner2456
    @isaacbragg-gardiner2456 2 місяці тому +1

    With so many opening lectures coming, SURELY we'll get a bird lecture soon :)

  • @tisoy4ever
    @tisoy4ever 2 місяці тому

    Benoni was just played in Grenke Chess. Vincent vs Magnus and also Magnus vs Rapport

  • @nbeqo
    @nbeqo 2 місяці тому

    Thanks, the best video so far, only one mistake :) ... that was Kasparov's mother, not the KGB, that said how is Kasparov going to save the game and it was not even his move....

  • @peterbauer7271
    @peterbauer7271 Місяць тому

    Thanks for an interesting lecture on opening theory. The 3rd game of world championship ‘72 was unique after round 2 give up by bobby. Who was it who said the good player is always lucky? I suspect he was a chess player…

  • @kmarasin
    @kmarasin 2 місяці тому

    Looks like Nh5 is not played, mainly because it's not difficult to suggest improvements for white. After Qh4 for example, stockfish suggests (never play) f3 with a big advantage.

  • @Devic13
    @Devic13 2 місяці тому +1

    My mom calls me a benoni when I'm being an idiot

  • @rickdynes
    @rickdynes 2 місяці тому +1

  • @veexish
    @veexish 2 місяці тому +103

    Tip for Benoni players : stop playing the Benoni

    • @jaasonjones4419
      @jaasonjones4419 2 місяці тому +34

      The truth hurts.

    • @yotoober1
      @yotoober1 2 місяці тому +4

      Stop playing it unless you're stock 🐟

    • @SloppyJennyMusic
      @SloppyJennyMusic 2 місяці тому +6

      I beat a lot of guys with benoni

    • @RaineriHakkarainen
      @RaineriHakkarainen 2 місяці тому +1

      Should have been Ojanen vs Keres from 1960! Penrose copied Ojanen's idea f5!

    • @heyumnew1401
      @heyumnew1401 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, play the czech benoni

  • @SanyaJuutilainen
    @SanyaJuutilainen 2 місяці тому

    Go Benoni!
    I mean Ben

  • @hfontanez98
    @hfontanez98 2 місяці тому

    This video is full of Benoni.

  • @singh.jayesh1866
    @singh.jayesh1866 2 місяці тому

    I think in the last game white had Queen to g4 winning a whole knight at the very least

  • @GymChess
    @GymChess 2 місяці тому

    Knife f5 is always a killer. 😜

  • @NS-mm6jq
    @NS-mm6jq 2 місяці тому

    How to make a donation and offer a topic of the next lecture?

  • @KeyserSoze-sb8vx
    @KeyserSoze-sb8vx Місяць тому

    Why no white knight to C5 at 11:58 to attack the queen and bishop?

  • @mrhardbiz62
    @mrhardbiz62 2 місяці тому

    That Korchnoi Kasparov game is too much, my brain broke

    • @DarkSideChess
      @DarkSideChess 2 місяці тому

      That was wild. In a Benoni, basically the better calculator wins.

  • @trent797
    @trent797 2 місяці тому

    I was curious if Jonathan Penrose was related to Roger Penrose. Turns out they are brothers. Smart family.

  • @bobobandy9382
    @bobobandy9382 2 місяці тому

    Wasn't Ne5 just game over?

  • @CNCTEMATIC
    @CNCTEMATIC 2 місяці тому

    the mike is picking up a lot of squelchy noises

  • @koahnoah
    @koahnoah 2 місяці тому

    Yo it would be cool as hell if some one sponsored a nimzo indian lecture.

  • @matthewpaul985
    @matthewpaul985 Місяць тому

    Proper chess player

  • @randybailin4902
    @randybailin4902 2 місяці тому

    Benoni Finegoldoni

  • @yotoober1
    @yotoober1 2 місяці тому +1

    Funny that when I first started playing chess and I saw that name as an opening defense, then I thought that it was invented by some eye talian guy who played chess. 🤣
    (name ends in a vowel)

  • @user-ws2li1lv5x
    @user-ws2li1lv5x Місяць тому

    Magnus CarIsen has pIayed some very instructive and amazing Benoni games as BIack too, he is aIways weII prepared ! Just check databases since 2016 !

  • @denniseldridge9266
    @denniseldridge9266 2 місяці тому

    Alice Lee vs Krush

  • @CrispyKorn
    @CrispyKorn 2 місяці тому +1

    Obi-Wan Benoni

  • @ShayWestrip
    @ShayWestrip 2 місяці тому +1

    Balogne

  • @ilanpi
    @ilanpi 2 місяці тому

    Son of sorrow

  • @tomas-wi8dy
    @tomas-wi8dy 2 місяці тому +1

  • @ouridabenali6699
    @ouridabenali6699 2 місяці тому +2

    Your bot defeated me

  • @dannyhuang8773
    @dannyhuang8773 2 місяці тому

    "typically that would not have a name."
    meanwhile scholars and fools mate

  • @josephsummerhays4650
    @josephsummerhays4650 3 години тому

    Obi wan Benoni

  • @philipbourgeois6631
    @philipbourgeois6631 2 місяці тому

    Go Ben....RRrrarggh

  • @douglasquaid7550
    @douglasquaid7550 2 місяці тому

    Ben Oni

  • @mikhailnizayev
    @mikhailnizayev 2 місяці тому

    I play it with black

  • @paulgoogol2652
    @paulgoogol2652 2 місяці тому

    Nobody is really good at chess but some try to get better, except for people like Hans who try to cheat better.

  • @douglaslarosa8782
    @douglaslarosa8782 2 місяці тому

    I loved this lecture! I think I'll try playing it a few times only to prove I'm the worse player 🥲