The Benoni: Lecture by GM Ben Finegold

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  • Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
  • This lecture was recorded March 18, 2024 in Roswell, Georgia. Thank you to Eric Osgood for sponsoring this lecture!!
    Games:
    02:09 Boris Spassky vs Bobby Fischer, 1972
    World Chess Championship Game 3
    18:09 Jonathan Penrose vs Mikhail Tal, Olympiad 1960
    28:33 Viktor Korchnoi vs Garry Kasparov, Olympiad 1982
    44:07 Garry Kasparov vs John Nunn, Olympiad 1982
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 122

  • @sayandas5
    @sayandas5 10 місяців тому +78

    Go Ben!
    I mean Benoni

  • @shadowfantasiesf8556
    @shadowfantasiesf8556 10 місяців тому +32

    I've watched almost all Benoni lessons on UA-cam and this one gave me a totally different perspective.
    Not focusing too much on the opening and instead showing how the middle games resolve makes me wanna master this.
    Very entertaining and also great games and stories.

  • @steven99456
    @steven99456 10 місяців тому +16

    thanks, I waited 4 years for this

  • @justsomeboyprobablydressed9579
    @justsomeboyprobablydressed9579 10 місяців тому +14

    Great lecture! This is why I love chess. Games like these. I get more enjoyment out of watching Ben talk about great games than I get out of playing chess myself.

  • @jaa928
    @jaa928 10 місяців тому +6

    Great timing with several Benoni games iin yesterday's Grenke top section. Go Ben!

  • @crclayton
    @crclayton 10 місяців тому +4

    That pawn break to NOT take back but leave the pawn to leave it and blockade it so it obstructs black’s own pieces is a really inspired idea if he came up with it OTB.

  • @fredflint3998
    @fredflint3998 10 місяців тому +12

    Great video Ben, I love that you used a Fischer game as an example. Very lucid straight forward explanations 👍.

  • @DanielHernandez-hg5ey
    @DanielHernandez-hg5ey 25 днів тому

    ngl his analysis really shines when he's not joking and interacting with the audience

  • @rodrigez5098
    @rodrigez5098 10 місяців тому +9

    Love the lectures Ben, i've been watching for years, thanks for all the content

  • @jasmint6703
    @jasmint6703 10 місяців тому +4

    Two exciting Benoni games were played in the Grenke tournament, basically just as this video was released, in like the last two or three days, both with Carlsen with both colors. Clearly the world champ watches these lectures with fervor. Seriously check out the games if you get a chance. Carlsen-Rapport and Keymer-Carlsen.

  • @snared_
    @snared_ 10 місяців тому +1

    just coming from the czech benoni lecture. Thanks for the wins over the years,B

  • @VFomalhaut
    @VFomalhaut 10 місяців тому +1

    I was just thinking about the benoni like 6 hours ago, and 4 hours ago you got this up. thanks!

  • @jogzyg2036
    @jogzyg2036 10 місяців тому +39

    The benoni opening is on the d and c files.
    The benkenobi opening is single file, to hide their numbers.

    • @peterittzes
      @peterittzes 10 місяців тому +4

      And you have to say "Hello there!" before you start the game.

  • @beeble2003
    @beeble2003 10 місяців тому +50

    Great lecture from Neb Dlogenif. He looks like Ben Finegold but keeps suggesting f3 as a move, and doesn't say all the Ben things, like "always retreat", "no talking", "knife f4" (for Black), "put it in H", ...

    • @trowftd
      @trowftd 10 місяців тому +4

      he didn't say Never Play f6 when black played f6 in the last game!

  • @matthewpaul985
    @matthewpaul985 10 місяців тому

    Thanks

  • @ric1watts
    @ric1watts 10 місяців тому +1

    Korchnoi vs Kasparov, my favorite game of all-time ! Ben's analyses is very good, when I tried to look at it myself, I had no idea what was going on 😂

  • @issussov
    @issussov 5 місяців тому

    Fantastic presentation!

    • @RaineriHakkarainen
      @RaineriHakkarainen 3 місяці тому

      Kaarle Ojanen vs Keres in 1960 was the first Bishop d3 f5 e5! idea! Poor Penrose copied Ojanen's idea f5! Ojanen played King h1! Penrose Queen f3!? Also poor Finegold do not said Spassky Errors Bishop d2? g3??

  • @Steveross2851
    @Steveross2851 10 місяців тому +5

    It’s interesting that all of the games in this lecture are over 40 years old with a current or future World Champion involved. The most recent “super Grandmaster” to play the Benoni seems to be Fabiano Caruana who played some games with it in 2016 and a few with it in 2020. It makes sense that it’s no longer seen much at the top level since there are so many more top level tournaments now but losing is also much more costly now in terms of risk of losing tournament invites. Because of its tactical nature it doesn’t seem to be a very practical opening to play unless one is paired down and even then as we saw in the featured Tal game it’s pretty risky. I don't play it myself, at least not unless I'm pretty confident I can outplay my opponent tactically.

  • @robbo1415
    @robbo1415 10 місяців тому +1

    This game was adjourned with Fischer sealing the final bishop check in an envelope. Spassky resigned next day after seeing the sealed move. The first victory over Spassky in Fischer’s career.

  • @cryptosquirrel5667
    @cryptosquirrel5667 10 місяців тому

    Love the stories. they bring humanity to the game.

  • @mikhailnizayev
    @mikhailnizayev 10 місяців тому

    Thank you so much

    • @RaineriHakkarainen
      @RaineriHakkarainen 10 місяців тому

      Kaarle Ojanen vs Keres in 1960 should have been here! Penrose copy Ojanen's idea f5! Poor Finegold never mentonied said Spassky's Errors like g3????

  • @davyanonymous9674
    @davyanonymous9674 10 місяців тому

    Thank you, Ben. Very instructive.

  • @alipakdin7372
    @alipakdin7372 10 місяців тому

    Hi Ben, That was a very nice lecture, thanks, I guess between your serious lectures and somewhat more humours ones, I like the serious ones better, but of course I like them both, Thanks alot our beloved GM

  • @Evilanious
    @Evilanious 10 місяців тому +1

    That third game is in line with my experience playing the Benoni (normally from the white side). The position is always completely over my head.

  • @WastrelWay
    @WastrelWay 10 місяців тому +2

    I didn't learn the Benoni when I was learning to play chess. But it kept popping up in the games I learned. And there's nothing wrong with it as far as I can see, nothing worse than the Sicilian or the French. :-)

  • @walterk.3576
    @walterk.3576 10 місяців тому

    the best ben finegold show so far🥂

  • @toniright4932
    @toniright4932 10 місяців тому

    Uuu this is a good one. My favorite opening, my favorite World Campion, and of course my favorite Lektor B.F.

  • @joeldick6871
    @joeldick6871 14 днів тому

    I was hoping you would show the pair of Judith Polgar vs Karpov games

  • @nbeqo
    @nbeqo 10 місяців тому

    Thanks, the best video so far, only one mistake :) ... that was Kasparov's mother, not the KGB, that said how is Kasparov going to save the game and it was not even his move....

  • @lasshrugged
    @lasshrugged 10 місяців тому +14

    Where is the Ben bot? RAWR! I've never been so mad.

    • @monsignorjames
      @monsignorjames 10 місяців тому +2

      I was going to say this exact thing, word for word, RAWR Anne frankly I've never been so angry

  • @kozodoev
    @kozodoev 10 місяців тому

    Finally an opening named after Ben.

  • @Neura1net
    @Neura1net 10 місяців тому +2

    Ben on the Benoni is benificial to my meded mind

  • @RW-Atl
    @RW-Atl 4 місяці тому +1

    top move after white plays f4 is resignation. I’ve lost several benoni games on time but never have i failed to get the most ungodly big white center imaginable.

  • @TalsBadKidney
    @TalsBadKidney 10 місяців тому +1

    Go Ben!!

  • @ircjesselee
    @ircjesselee 10 місяців тому +2

    After age 60, it's hard to get a Benoni.

  • @cparks1000000
    @cparks1000000 10 місяців тому +1

    1:55 This is the most common position in the Benoni.

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety 10 місяців тому +1

    I don't know if the Benoni is the best opening, but I think it might be the opening that's the most fun to say a bunch of times fast.

  • @David-tm9wr
    @David-tm9wr 10 місяців тому +25

    So many people dismiss Benoni as an unsound opening because super GMs don't play it. Ridiculous. It seems to me that it's one of those openings in which the better player wins. It's a fighting weapon that gives interesting positions for both sides, and if it was good enough for Fischer in his match against Spassky, it's good enough for me! I am glad that you are lecturing on it.
    1.d4, c5 is the only true Chad move order too!

    • @mariamariamariazinha
      @mariamariamariazinha 10 місяців тому

      I agree, also Nice pfp

    • @pastorofmuppets4552
      @pastorofmuppets4552 10 місяців тому

      “The better player wins” Isn’t that just chess?

    • @12jswilson
      @12jswilson 10 місяців тому

      It's funny because just today Carlsen beat Keymer with the modern Benoni today in slow rapid format

    • @David-tm9wr
      @David-tm9wr 10 місяців тому +1

      @@mariamariamariazinha Thanks! Love the old MTV and Daria!

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety 10 місяців тому +5

    Jonathan Penrose's brother is pretty clever too.

    • @RaineriHakkarainen
      @RaineriHakkarainen 3 місяці тому

      Kaarle Ojanen vs Keres 1960 was the first Bishop d3 and e5 f5 idea! Penrose copied Ojanen's idea f5! Penrose Queen f3?! Ojanen played King h1! Tal was Angry against Keres not to show Ojanen vs Keres game to him!

  • @peterbauer7271
    @peterbauer7271 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for an interesting lecture on opening theory. The 3rd game of world championship ‘72 was unique after round 2 give up by bobby. Who was it who said the good player is always lucky? I suspect he was a chess player…

  • @chessjess510
    @chessjess510 5 місяців тому +1

    Benoni Finegold

  • @kmarasin
    @kmarasin 10 місяців тому

    Looks like Nh5 is not played, mainly because it's not difficult to suggest improvements for white. After Qh4 for example, stockfish suggests (never play) f3 with a big advantage.

  • @tisoy4ever
    @tisoy4ever 10 місяців тому

    Benoni was just played in Grenke Chess. Vincent vs Magnus and also Magnus vs Rapport

  • @isaacbragg-gardiner2456
    @isaacbragg-gardiner2456 10 місяців тому +1

    With so many opening lectures coming, SURELY we'll get a bird lecture soon :)

  • @mrhardbiz62
    @mrhardbiz62 10 місяців тому +1

    That Korchnoi Kasparov game is too much, my brain broke

    • @DarkSideChess
      @DarkSideChess 10 місяців тому

      That was wild. In a Benoni, basically the better calculator wins.

  • @luxtenebris7246
    @luxtenebris7246 10 місяців тому +11

    I love the Benoni, but there is nothing worse than that feeling when you play it against a strong positional player and they just shut down all your play and you are stuck shuffling around in a cramped set up with no active plan that doesn't involve losing a lot of material.

  • @WhizzerdSupreme
    @WhizzerdSupreme 10 місяців тому +5

    Little known rule: Always play c5
    1. E4? C5
    1. D4? C5
    1. C4? C5

    • @timwheeler8523
      @timwheeler8523 10 місяців тому +1

      All good except against c4! Boring .... (Against e4 and d4, yes!)

    • @NichtWunderkind
      @NichtWunderkind 10 місяців тому

      Against c4, Nc6 and then c5

    • @crclayton
      @crclayton 10 місяців тому +4

      I do this… I premove c5. When I was lower rated my d4 opponents would routinely think it was an accident try, to their detriment, taking and holding onto it.

    • @WhizzerdSupreme
      @WhizzerdSupreme 10 місяців тому +1

      @@crclayton Same! 🤣

  • @GymChess
    @GymChess 10 місяців тому +1

    Knife f5 is always a killer. 😜

  • @trent797
    @trent797 10 місяців тому +1

    I was curious if Jonathan Penrose was related to Roger Penrose. Turns out they are brothers. Smart family.

  • @thomas11eleventm
    @thomas11eleventm 6 місяців тому

    5:44 best part 😂😂😂

  • @dieterSchoeffel
    @dieterSchoeffel 9 місяців тому +1

    Magnus CarIsen has pIayed some very instructive and amazing Benoni games as BIack too, he is aIways weII prepared ! Just check databases since 2016 !

  • @KeyserSoze-sb8vx
    @KeyserSoze-sb8vx 9 місяців тому

    Why no white knight to C5 at 11:58 to attack the queen and bishop?

    • @adc7071
      @adc7071 8 місяців тому

      probably because the light squared bishop on c8 can take but idk

  • @hfontanez98
    @hfontanez98 10 місяців тому

    This video is full of Benoni.

  • @singh.jayesh1866
    @singh.jayesh1866 10 місяців тому

    I think in the last game white had Queen to g4 winning a whole knight at the very least

  • @SanyaJuutilainen
    @SanyaJuutilainen 10 місяців тому

    Go Benoni!
    I mean Ben

  • @jnmshmacm
    @jnmshmacm 17 годин тому

    Did he really just suggest playing f3 ? 8:26

  • @sunilpp1
    @sunilpp1 2 місяці тому

    Ben oni is Fine Gold

  • @Devic13
    @Devic13 10 місяців тому +1

    My mom calls me a benoni when I'm being an idiot

  • @ouridabenali6699
    @ouridabenali6699 10 місяців тому +4

    Your bot defeated me

  • @NS-mm6jq
    @NS-mm6jq 10 місяців тому

    How to make a donation and offer a topic of the next lecture?

  • @bobobandy9382
    @bobobandy9382 10 місяців тому

    Wasn't Ne5 just game over?

  • @matthewpaul985
    @matthewpaul985 10 місяців тому +1

    Proper chess player

  • @CNCTEMATIC
    @CNCTEMATIC 10 місяців тому

    the mike is picking up a lot of squelchy noises

  • @koahnoah
    @koahnoah 10 місяців тому

    Yo it would be cool as hell if some one sponsored a nimzo indian lecture.

  • @HorstDeBepp
    @HorstDeBepp 5 місяців тому

    Ah yes the Benoni, no analysis of a D4 game would be complete without someone mentioning "this reminds you of a benoni structure"

  • @rickdynes
    @rickdynes 10 місяців тому +1

  • @randybailin4902
    @randybailin4902 10 місяців тому +1

    Benoni Finegoldoni

  • @ilet3049
    @ilet3049 19 днів тому

    I got to say, I feel somewhat bad for Korchnoi. All the years put in, so close, but yet so far.

  • @josephsummerhays4650
    @josephsummerhays4650 8 місяців тому +2

    Obi wan Benoni

  • @yotoober1
    @yotoober1 10 місяців тому +1

    Funny that when I first started playing chess and I saw that name as an opening defense, then I thought that it was invented by some eye talian guy who played chess. 🤣
    (name ends in a vowel)

  • @denniseldridge9266
    @denniseldridge9266 10 місяців тому

    Alice Lee vs Krush

  • @CrispyKorn
    @CrispyKorn 10 місяців тому +2

    Obi-Wan Benoni

  • @veexish
    @veexish 10 місяців тому +149

    Tip for Benoni players : stop playing the Benoni

    • @jaasonjones4419
      @jaasonjones4419 10 місяців тому +48

      The truth hurts.

    • @yotoober1
      @yotoober1 10 місяців тому +8

      Stop playing it unless you're stock 🐟

    • @SloppyJennyMusic
      @SloppyJennyMusic 10 місяців тому +13

      I beat a lot of guys with benoni

    • @RaineriHakkarainen
      @RaineriHakkarainen 10 місяців тому +1

      Should have been Ojanen vs Keres from 1960! Penrose copied Ojanen's idea f5!

    • @heyumnew1401
      @heyumnew1401 10 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, play the czech benoni

  • @ShayWestrip
    @ShayWestrip 10 місяців тому +1

    Balogne

  • @ilanpi
    @ilanpi 10 місяців тому

    Son of sorrow

  • @tomas-wi8dy
    @tomas-wi8dy 10 місяців тому +1

  • @dannyhuang8773
    @dannyhuang8773 10 місяців тому

    "typically that would not have a name."
    meanwhile scholars and fools mate

  • @mikhailnizayev
    @mikhailnizayev 10 місяців тому

    I play it with black

  • @douglasquaid7550
    @douglasquaid7550 10 місяців тому

    Ben Oni

  • @alex-wt7oq
    @alex-wt7oq 2 місяці тому

    Kasparov drew Korchnoi in the simul. He didn't win.

  • @paulgoogol2652
    @paulgoogol2652 10 місяців тому

    Nobody is really good at chess but some try to get better, except for people like Hans who try to cheat better.

  • @douglaslarosa8782
    @douglaslarosa8782 10 місяців тому

    I loved this lecture! I think I'll try playing it a few times only to prove I'm the worse player 🥲

  • @philipbourgeois6631
    @philipbourgeois6631 10 місяців тому

    Go Ben....RRrrarggh

  • @TheGta4you
    @TheGta4you Місяць тому

    Go Ben!
    I mean Benoni

  • @George_Bland
    @George_Bland 4 місяці тому

    Benoni Finegold