What did you think of my 12-tone meets lo-fi hip hop first attempt beat? Too digested? What made it lo-fi or not lo-fi? In terms of creating a beat, what do you think I came through with? In what ways was I completely and utterly OFF? What are you listening to these days? What are you writing? What are your thoughts? Say it all, I'm all ears haha 😂 P.S. You all are the best, thanks for watching ❤
I'm not an expert on Lo-Fi Hip-Hop, but I really liked the inclusion 12-tone serialism! Also how the groove was appropriately behind the beat - and the general layering of rhythmic elements. I'd recommend experimenting with some low-pass filtering with a little automated filter-motion - also perhaps overlay a little vinyl crackle every now and then. Going with more detuning (or even tuning-automation in your DAW) might also spice it up a little more. :) I'm not writing much these days... trying to really learn Jazz and improve on the piano though, so that's a lot of what I'm listening to and playing these days - it's loads of fun!
2nd idea seems stronger. I don't listen to a lot of lofi hip-hop but do enjoy it occasionally. The first one seems too busy. If you were to edit out 80-90% it would come across as more minimal. The quantizing tends to make things too perfect. And the samples are too clean/not messy enough. Add a field recording, roll off high end and you're there 👍
mostly just timbre stuff like ur bass and pianos just sound kinda stock and uninteresting but thts nothing some effects cant solve also the 12 tone bassline was mad janky but i understand thts like kinda the point. otherwise the shits good especially ur plunky percussion stuff
Thanks for sharing Inspired me to comment and suggest two things: 1. The mix of chaos and groove reminded me of a new relationship (w/headphones, and/or bath rug + software, or other); scanning for intelligent life/sweet spots, curious, and interesting. This can be both send & receive signals in said relationship. (Lyrical thoughts) 2. 🎈🎯 Find a way to start switching the 12 tone, maybe dropping out some notes and playing musical chairs (maybe w/static sound to show changes), until the real groove is realized/purpose found, and, with the funkiness elevated, drop in your performance of the bass line from the Barney Miller detective show. You can add vocal lyrics or more instrumental lead, with the message/feeling of the purpose that you found. I'm not saying it has to be Barney Miller, but, definitely Barney Miller. If you listen to the lead guitar over that bass line (EDIT: and chord changes), you could imagine a powerful vocal. That's what I would do, if I had that bathmat, those headphones, and that software. ("That's all I need, this bathmat, oh and these headphones, and that's all I need, oh and this paddle ball. And that's all i need..." - Navan Johnson) PS guess my age 🙂 PPS Thanks again for the lesson on beginning. It was right on time and left my left ear grinning. PPPS My right earbud isn't, well, you know. It's not the earbud though;it's the wires. Does anyone make cords that protect the wires? Anyone?!! 🚣🏽♀️🚣🏽♀️🚣🏽♀️🐽
@@NahreSol Hey, Awesome Video in another video your on "Why Don't Classical Musicians Improvise?" at 30sec you showed a chart of how your musical time is used. What did you use to keep track, and then show the data?
Toooootally! Given that she's likely super new to hip hop, she probably doesn't know that dissonance / hip hop / jazz fusion was already in NY in the 90s
Your videos are always so charming - like some super intelligent classical person who somehow missed all this modern music and is coming into it with an open mind and seems intrigued by everything. Great work.
The high piano chords are close in pitch to the notes played near the end of every four bar phrase in DJ Premier's production on "N.Y. State of Mind". She's also double the synth bassline with a piano in the mid-range, the same way Primo did.
That's so precise to what i was thinking...and the beat she created labelled as "lo-fi" that doesn't even sound anywhere close to lofi. Or maybe i'm just wrong..maybe it's some other type of lo-fi that i'm not familiar with or maybe i'm just used to missing that "vinyl" sounds every time i hear someone mentioning "lo-fi" but that's what i'm used to suppose when it's about lo-fi. But i honestly feel with the sounds like those having in her "chosen list", she could've done way way much better than what she ended up with....but anyways, she tried her best and i can feel her passion in there...atleast she is trying to learn something new and i completely appreciate that.
I’m not sure you realize how dope this is. Those interlocking tritones really make it stand out and it brings me back to a 90s DJ Premier feel. The fact that you took the time to compose the bassline and you really gave this some harmonic and melodic thought is what sets this apart in the chill hop in lofi hip-hop space. Keep it coming!
Here before Adam Neely writes "Great work, Nahre! Your classical approach to exploring contemporary styles and genres is always interesting, and imbues your own pieces in these styles with a unique character and musical outlook that is really refreshing and inspiring to the rest of us". Place your bets now! e: well, damn.
OMG! This is one of the best days in my life! I'm so glad you love the playlist and right now this thoroughly magnificent video is here! It's really amazing that you're so open-minded that you're exploring every realms of creativity in music! As a Hip Hop lover/producer since my childhood/adolescence, I feel incredibly happy now! Thanks so much for preserving the cultural legacy of these marvelous genres and artists Nahre and can't wait to witness this amazing journey! As always, you're about to create a cultural phenomenon here! If this is your first beat, I can't even imagine what would the second one be!!! I think you feel Hip-Hop very intuitively and have this natural tendency to create wonderful soundspaces! This is inexplicably amazing!! 😊🚀🎶🎉❤️🧠💥
it's always scary to try and learn new kinds music especially after you become really proficient in one kind and many people would rather become complacent but I salute you on taking the plunge into new territories and pushing yourself as a musician great work Nahre
Damn i thought it was just me its not that easy to make good hip hop beats. This young lady is obviously musically talented, but this beat is awful its the toy piano the beat is pinched sounding you don't make the 12 bar release need more drums.
This video makes me feel more confident in my lofi beat making abilities. I was listening to It on my phone. Thanks for showing that even a classical musician has there doubts in certain aspects of music.
I love how I'm eating french toast, plantains, bacon for breakfast with coffee to drink and you upload this calming yet informative video on beat making. I love it, Nahre!
@@NahreSol my grandma made the plantains. I just made the french toast and bacon for myself, coffee is amazing when it's made by simplicity. overall, it's pretty phenomenal and you're absolutely welcome. 💯
I think it's a great start, Nahre! The first thing that comes to mind is that it just sounds un-mixed and un-mastered. Adding the right type of reverb, compression, panning, stereo imaging and a bit of delay on some instruments would definitely give the track much more depth. A huge factor to take into consideration with this type of music is not necessarily the notes and the rhythms, but moreso the texture, timbre and atmosphere of the various synths and instruments.
@@NahreSol Immerse yourself in the genre a bit more and absorb the emotions that are being created, and then build your next LoFi song that way. I look forward to part 2!
@@BeatleJWOL true, but if the piece/song wasnt designed to be slow it may not sound "right". Though slowing/speeding up pieces/songs is a legitimate technique, so yeah good point.
Side note I LOOOOVE how your editing style has evolved, this dry sarcasm over such an adorable personality is hilarious. And that demonitization/copyright on off button had me floored. I’m not versed enough in lo fi to comment on that, but as someone who has already enjoyed watching and rewatching your videos, your style is becoming even more enjoyable. Keep up the great work
Man, I used to play with this like that too and had no idea what I was doing. At times I got something special, but never really kept it. This brings back memories
It sounds like a demented Wu-Tang Beat. That 12-tone bass gives it a real woozy but menacing tonality. Would sound crazy with some chopped vocal samples interspersed throughout. Honestly really great seeing you become more and more interested in new sounds and genres on here and Sound Field and expanding your horizons. It's also super interesting seeing someone obviously super talented branch out and practice integrating new and often intimidating styles into their musical repertoire. Pt.2 should be 🔥
Always love the fact that you're trying to mix things up and find the intersection of different musical concepts. And then sharing it with us? Awesome!
Hopefully this won’t come across too negatively (because I really like your videos) but so far it sounds too random and disconnected, though I do love the interlocked tritones in there. To me, a huge part of the appeal of this kind of music is the production, the effective use of compression for example, so it all sounds less sterile and separated. I am sure some of your amazing music friends can show you sidechain compression if you don’t know about it already. Have you considered flipping a sample from a twelve tone recording instead to instantly get that lofi sample feeling, when you chop some pre-existing recording and re-arrange it? Again, just some thoughts, and obviously I can’t express everything within this limited space without overstaying my welcome. :)
totally agree. timbre, EQ, compression and other production techniques are pretty crucial parts of how people relate to electronic music and classical musicians (no offence) often aren't quite equipped to understand them. lo-fi isn't something you can transcribe onto sheet music.
Honestly she could play one of the pieces she has composed, then straight up sample and chop it up. Finger drum in some 808's and tastefully mix the production for taste.
This was freaking awesome! As someone who is very down with making beats but has a massive love for music theory this was too much fun to watch! Very much looking forward to part 2!
I think you're overthinking lofi. It's obvious your knowledge of music is out of this world and you seem to have all these ideas to make the perfect lo-fi in theory but its very straight forward I think. A simple beat with that modern snare everyone uses, a simple melody on repeat. Maybe add a bit more of that retro feel with the sound of radio noise in the background, maybe even start off with a famous speech from a movie or whatever. For your next attempt it would be very cool to see you sample from Shiloh. Many artists do and its a cool implementation to the lofi area that uses lyrics. You could possibly check out someone like "timmies" or "sagun" for inspo :) great work nonetheless
Just discovered this channel and I love it. Really appreciate the amount of openness you display while exploring new concepts and musical ideas. I personally find it very inspiring.
I guess if I have advice, less is more. I feel like there's too much going on with the drum tracking, or maybe the sounds you used were too conflicting. The 12-tone baseline was actually pretty interesting. Making that the focal point, and using the piano and drum track to highlight or accent certain key notes and beats would go a long way.
A trick too is play notes microtonally tuned up and down a few cents , add old tape wobble. The rest is just standard hip hop beats along with the aforementioned wobbles and dirtying up, and add filters to make it sound old. Oh and bit crushing can sometimes work wonders too. No standards here , creativity is really unlimited, I loved the piece Nahre :)
Lo-fi Cool. Idea: Try to play with your mood, I am convinced it will help. Create a mood or emotion around the track, Lo-Fi tends to be more somber but I am sure you can Feel outside the box.
You are an inspiration when throwing yourself into the deep end of genres that are totally out of your comfort zone. The will to do this is what makes a good musician a great musician.
i think people address the issues far better than i could, but as someone who loves lo-fi dearly, i find joy in the simplicity of the sounds. they're soothing, nostalgic, often sleep-inducing. rap trio epik high's last album uses elements of lo-fi in all the tracks in a very updated way, perhaps you could learn more from hearing how each track tackles the individual details of lo-fi. as i mentioned in another comment, nujabes really paved the way for the genre so its good to start your research there! many of his works were quite simple, often repetitive but memorable, and genuinely iconic. i hope to see you tackle lo-fi in a part 2!
It sounds more like boombap, with the tritone making it feel super dark, unlike most lofi which is more lighter and lazy style composition. This was super intense and awesome but too mysterious and tense to fit into lofi, dope beat!!
Nahre! Adressing the fact that you feel like the keyboard is laggy when recording into logic. if you go to Logic Pro X > Preferences > Audio, and lower the I/O buffer size, there will be less delay between your midi controller and your ears. using quantise puts things completely in time but means you lose any syncopation that you might want to incorporate, or any errors that make a track sound more human and natural.
@@zan6585 ASIO is a windows thing, created by Steinberg to provide for low latency, as windows wdm/dsound audio drivers are horrible. The lowest latency that works well is a combination of a good soundcard with a good cpu, and using the appropriate drivers depending on the platform. Also some FX need some extra time to 'look ahead' for their processing and introduce extra latency (e.g. a lot of limiters/compressors do this), the DAW will then add latency on all the other tracks to compensate for this, increasing the overall latency. Most DAW's have the option to disable this latency compensation for recording purposes (then you mute the tracks with fx with latency, and use the built in metronome to record against, or just try not to use (or disable) FX with extra latency until most things are recorded). Loving your videos, and find it super interesting to see someone with your background and skills being intrigued by electronic/hiphop music, I really think someone with your musical knowledge working together with more seasoned sound designers / producers could result in very interesting stuff.
The CP88 also has an audio interface built in and transmits midi/audio over USB. Pretty sure she’s not using ASIO drivers as she’s on a Mac and not using Cubase.
@@zan6585 Which is too much, I can't play piano with delay more than 8ms at all. She should monitor her keyboard directly or get an audio interface that gets lower latency if she wants to play plugins live.
"We don't need to practice" - words to live by, thank you Nahre! Love lo-fi hip hop, your interpretation is fascinating, especially the use of 12 tone serious and the use of tri-tones
I love watching you go through your creative process. I didn't care for what you came up with so much. But that little piece of music at the end was delightful! I also use that izotope vinyl vst. Love it.
That interlocked tritone reminded me of Nas' "NY State of Mind''s opening for some reason. This is a good thing. I wouldn't call what you put together "Lo-fi Hip Hop", it sounds closer to that Nas' track or other tracks from around that time, sort of a "Broken Down" aesthetic that Lo-fi flirts with but in a different way. It's cool to see that distill out so naturally. Really excited for the next iteration, I love the Lo-fi Hip Hop thing, so this is great.
@@NahreSol thanks, I'd like to see you revisit the "as digested by a classical musician" videos every now and then, since you've probably improved in that style and or matured your ideas
This was inspiring - the way you approached this. I was listening to Gang Starr earlier today and Guru almost could have rapped over this beat. You made this fun to watch and I like how you are using creativity. Some of us can lose that at times.
I'm sure it's different for everyone, but lo-fi hip-hop often makes me feel lonely, and nostalgic in a bittersweet way, like I'm thinking of times that are gone and will never come back, or time that was lost or wasted. It sounds like I feel negatively towards it, but its actually the opposite. Surprisingly, its mostly a very cozy feeling, the sad, sorrowful loneliness and regret that it makes me feel is like... the best way I can describe it is like seasoning, or ornamentation, on top of the far more dominant coziness. Cozy like a warm shower, or lying in bed on a rainy Sunday afternoon and just listening to the rain falling on the roof.
Love the video, some small advice on the hip-hop aspect of the Lo-Fi genre: Lo-Fi hip hop has heavy late 80s/90s NY/East Coast hip-hop (such as Tribe Called Quest, Nas, and Producers such as DJ Premier and J-Dilla, also known as boom bap style of hip hop) Jazz and Funk influences. so when it comes to the groove, typically the Bpm is 75 to 90 which is the typical tempo for most Lo-fi beats/Instrumentals. Personally, a good place to start researching/getting inspiration (in sequence if desired) for Lo-Fi type of Music is: KRS ONE, Wu Tang Clan, J-Dilla, Tribe Called Quest, 9th wonder, Madlib, Nujabes, Bsd.u, Potsu, Chinsaku, Ninjoi, and Jinsang. these are my personal favorites, surface level to some, nonetheless, my favorites. I hope this helps, and keep up the good work!
Definitely sounds unique. Something that is characteristic of a lot of lofi hip hop is a vintage, somber, tranquil feel though. Also, there’s beauty in its simplicity. Looking forward to your part 2 :)
Seeing that Nahre Sol just uploaded a video makes me ditch the TwoSetViolin upload that I started watching. 😀😀 (Both of which, of course, I'm doing instead of practicing.) 😎😎
It has an experimental vibe that I could see being the ground work for a lot of producers in the late 80s, early 90s (I'm thinking Wu Tang, specifically). It's missing the groove that hip hop is supposed to have. Also, there is a lot going on with the percussion. You've got drums, piano, the clicky sound effect, and another piano. Maybe offsetting the frenetic percussion with a simpler synth would smooth it out.
Your second go sounds a lot more like what I know as lofi, it has that late-night relaxed atmosphere that I associate with it. In my opinion, lofi is all about the atmosphere and the sampling. I say for the next video focus on getting a groovy beat and simple looping melody with jazzy chords then go nuts with sampled soundbites (glitchy computer/vinyl noises, pieces of conversations, odd instruments) and go heavy on the compression and EQ for the old broken record effects. I'm by no means a lofi producer, but I'm a big fan of the genre so I'm very happy to see you're getting into it, good luck!
Hi Nahre, i think you were onto something with the tune you created from 8:45! Your initial attempt I think veered off a bit from lo-fi. If you think in terms of Chopin, lo-fi is his raindrop prelude, and yours was a sort of slowed down fantasie impromptu. Still loved the process of watching you discover something and make it your own, tho!
Nahre was there any J Dilla, Madlib, or Nujabes on that playlist? IMO, those 3 are common influences amongst beat makers and held with highest regard that itd be a shame to miss them, especially since 2 of them are beatmakers that went out of their way for gritty unsterile sounds thats sought after in lofi. Theres so many mixes now with just their music but at the least check out these tracks on youtube: J Dilla - Life Madlib - Flowers Nujabes - Luv (sic) pt.2
Pretty fresh! I want to say the lo-fi sound came from drum machines like the SP-404 where in order to get more sample time, mono was used over stereo. The repeater and other fx account for the "glitch" sounds and those were the lo-fi foundations of today.
What did you think of my 12-tone meets lo-fi hip hop first attempt beat? Too digested? What made it lo-fi or not lo-fi? In terms of creating a beat, what do you think I came through with? In what ways was I completely and utterly OFF? What are you listening to these days? What are you writing? What are your thoughts? Say it all, I'm all ears haha 😂 P.S. You all are the best, thanks for watching ❤
Check out miss Antidote, she makes lofi that gets you "hot"
I'm not an expert on Lo-Fi Hip-Hop, but I really liked the inclusion 12-tone serialism! Also how the groove was appropriately behind the beat - and the general layering of rhythmic elements. I'd recommend experimenting with some low-pass filtering with a little automated filter-motion - also perhaps overlay a little vinyl crackle every now and then. Going with more detuning (or even tuning-automation in your DAW) might also spice it up a little more. :)
I'm not writing much these days... trying to really learn Jazz and improve on the piano though, so that's a lot of what I'm listening to and playing these days - it's loads of fun!
2nd idea seems stronger. I don't listen to a lot of lofi hip-hop but do enjoy it occasionally. The first one seems too busy. If you were to edit out 80-90% it would come across as more minimal. The quantizing tends to make things too perfect. And the samples are too clean/not messy enough. Add a field recording, roll off high end and you're there 👍
mostly just timbre stuff like ur bass and pianos just sound kinda stock and uninteresting but thts nothing some effects cant solve also the 12 tone bassline was mad janky but i understand thts like kinda the point. otherwise the shits good especially ur plunky percussion stuff
Thanks for sharing Inspired me to comment and suggest two things:
1. The mix of chaos and groove reminded me of a new relationship (w/headphones, and/or bath rug + software, or other); scanning for intelligent life/sweet spots, curious, and interesting. This can be both send & receive signals in said relationship. (Lyrical thoughts)
2. 🎈🎯 Find a way to start switching the 12 tone, maybe dropping out some notes and playing musical chairs (maybe w/static sound to show changes), until the real groove is realized/purpose found, and, with the funkiness elevated, drop in your performance of the bass line from the Barney Miller detective show. You can add vocal lyrics or more instrumental lead, with the message/feeling of the purpose that you found. I'm not saying it has to be Barney Miller, but, definitely Barney Miller. If you listen to the lead guitar over that bass line (EDIT: and chord changes), you could imagine a powerful vocal.
That's what I would do, if I had that bathmat, those headphones, and that software.
("That's all I need, this bathmat, oh and these headphones, and that's all I need, oh and this paddle ball. And that's all i need..."
- Navan Johnson)
PS guess my age 🙂
PPS Thanks again for the lesson on beginning. It was right on time and left my left ear grinning.
PPPS My right earbud isn't, well, you know. It's not the earbud though;it's the wires. Does anyone make cords that protect the wires? Anyone?!! 🚣🏽♀️🚣🏽♀️🚣🏽♀️🐽
Dope.
Thanks Adam :))
Holy crap!
I love this I just wish I could explain the originals from late 2010s
@@NahreSol Hey, Awesome Video in another video your on "Why Don't Classical Musicians Improvise?" at 30sec you showed a chart of how your musical time is used. What did you use to keep track, and then show the data?
More Like nope :D
A big part of the lo-fi sound is never paying for your VSTs
bruh lmfao
lol 😂😂😂😂😂
it really gives it that warm analog feeling
HAHA YEAH
cracked VSTs give extra character
Here before Adam Neely writes "Dope."
😂😂😂
thirsty boy
Thanks Adam, very cool.
Literaly the comment under you is Adam Neely saying dope😂😂
lol
i feel like there is a bad robbery going on in my house while im listening to this
I'm dead. lmaoooo
😂
what if hes serious and dead
😂
Yes this shit
This track sounds like James Bond chilling on a beach a few minutes before his next mission
Bames Jond
While on a bender
Or the Scooby gang, investigating a spooky mansion
@@hypersapien A gender bender?
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Dude that's not Lo-Fi, that's Miles Davis on heroine.
this... i love everything about this comment
LMAOOO WOW YEAH
HAHAHAHA
You won the internet for 10 seconds
Didn't win anything
I'm glad everyone in the comments here recognizes that she accidentally made a Wu-tang type beat. what a great channel
Those chords are in one of their songs
wu tang wu tang wu tang wu tang
Who knew all you needed was classical piano training to be rza
Who knew all you needed was classical piano training to be rza
@@jaredchacon2645 which Wu tang clan song?
You just invented a new genre, "negative lofi hip-hop". It gives you anxiety instead of relaxing LOL
For real tho that's kinda crazy but I like it
😹😹😹
Like Brett's lofi (from TwoSet)
@@yoavshati a man of culture
This sounds more like east coast jazz hip hop from the 90s
still dope!
ya... wu-tang pretty much immediately came to my mind. Its not exactly, but its in that direction.
Though of Nas and thief's theme
Same exact thought - too loose to be RZA but it has that general vibe
Toooootally! Given that she's likely super new to hip hop, she probably doesn't know that dissonance / hip hop / jazz fusion was already in NY in the 90s
I think a fat blunt is what you’re missing to get into the lo-fi composing vibe
indeed...
factual statement
thank you
on god
you mean lack of talent
that sounds like a really bad acid trip
Your videos are always so charming - like some super intelligent classical person who somehow missed all this modern music and is coming into it with an open mind and seems intrigued by everything. Great work.
Idk why but those “interlocked tritones” it whatever she called them gave me Old school like Wu tang vibes
The high piano chords are close in pitch to the notes played near the end of every four bar phrase in DJ Premier's production on "N.Y. State of Mind". She's also double the synth bassline with a piano in the mid-range, the same way Primo did.
Exactly what I was feeling
it gave me a Big Pun vibe
That's so precise to what i was thinking...and the beat she created labelled as "lo-fi" that doesn't even sound anywhere close to lofi. Or maybe i'm just wrong..maybe it's some other type of lo-fi that i'm not familiar with or maybe i'm just used to missing that "vinyl" sounds every time i hear someone mentioning "lo-fi" but that's what i'm used to suppose when it's about lo-fi. But i honestly feel with the sounds like those having in her "chosen list", she could've done way way much better than what she ended up with....but anyways, she tried her best and i can feel her passion in there...atleast she is trying to learn something new and i completely appreciate that.
It's the Wutang Interlocked Tritones!!
I’m not sure you realize how dope this is. Those interlocking tritones really make it stand out and it brings me back to a 90s DJ Premier feel. The fact that you took the time to compose the bassline and you really gave this some harmonic and melodic thought is what sets this apart in the chill hop in lofi hip-hop space. Keep it coming!
Here before Adam Neely writes "Great work, Nahre! Your classical approach to exploring contemporary styles and genres is always interesting, and imbues your own pieces in these styles with a unique character and musical outlook that is really refreshing and inspiring to the rest of us". Place your bets now!
e: well, damn.
"i'm a 16 year old producer from Atlanta and it'd really mean alot to me..."
His beat: 7:58
im crying yo
Who’s a 16 year old producer?
Doge wow im a 14 beatmaker from france and my beats are pretty decent, go on my channel, youll see
yoooo comment of the year. im dead !!!!
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OMG! This is one of the best days in my life! I'm so glad you love the playlist and right now this thoroughly magnificent video is here! It's really amazing that you're so open-minded that you're exploring every realms of creativity in music! As a Hip Hop lover/producer since my childhood/adolescence, I feel incredibly happy now! Thanks so much for preserving the cultural legacy of these marvelous genres and artists Nahre and can't wait to witness this amazing journey! As always, you're about to create a cultural phenomenon here! If this is your first beat, I can't even imagine what would the second one be!!! I think you feel Hip-Hop very intuitively and have this natural tendency to create wonderful soundspaces! This is inexplicably amazing!! 😊🚀🎶🎉❤️🧠💥
Haha! You must be stoked!! Very happy for you! Enjoy!!!
it's always scary to try and learn new kinds music especially after you become really proficient in one kind and many people would rather become complacent but I salute you on taking the plunge into new territories and pushing yourself as a musician great work Nahre
Now do classical music - as digested by a classical musician
Brilliant idea 😁
That would be classical music as digestable by youtube audiances :D
@@kibrika that's a witty comment appreciated by an interested viewer :P
Damn i thought it was just me its not that easy to make good hip hop beats. This young lady is obviously musically talented, but this beat is awful its the toy piano the beat is pinched sounding you don't make the 12 bar release need more drums.
ironsoul80 your comment needs more punctuation 😀
Nahre: but we can quantize this!
Rick Beato: *menacingly lurks in the background*
Haha doesnt sounds like Lofi at all to me but pretty cool
Haha yeah
Sounds more like a mix of gangster west coast rap and something else weird
@@dmgproducts8188 Premo and Madlib was my first thought, really good!
Still cool tho so I don't mind
George Mirchev exactly what I thought! I can picture Nas on it too lmao
This video makes me feel more confident in my lofi beat making abilities. I was listening to It on my phone. Thanks for showing that even a classical musician has there doubts in certain aspects of music.
I love how I'm eating french toast, plantains, bacon for breakfast with coffee to drink and you upload this calming yet informative video on beat making. I love it, Nahre!
Wow you're having quite an amazing breakfast! I think I need coffee... Plantains sound yummy too 😁 and thank you!!
@@NahreSol my grandma made the plantains. I just made the french toast and bacon for myself, coffee is amazing when it's made by simplicity. overall, it's pretty phenomenal and you're absolutely welcome. 💯
Love your editing. Everything is so easily digestible for the common viewer! Can't wait for pt 2!
I think it's a great start, Nahre! The first thing that comes to mind is that it just sounds un-mixed and un-mastered. Adding the right type of reverb, compression, panning, stereo imaging and a bit of delay on some instruments would definitely give the track much more depth. A huge factor to take into consideration with this type of music is not necessarily the notes and the rhythms, but moreso the texture, timbre and atmosphere of the various synths and instruments.
You never stop to amaze me. This is so great - creative. Thank you
Nahre, I love everything you do but I think you don't understand the very thing that makes Lofi what it is. Relaxing.
Yes haha I agree, but look out for part 2, here im just entering this world as a beginner so less of a clue to the vibe...
I wanted to say the same, it's really interestng, but it's not relaxing lo-fi hip hop at all. But for the part 2 I suppose.
@@NahreSol Great! I'll be waiting for that second part!
@@NahreSol Immerse yourself in the genre a bit more and absorb the emotions that are being created, and then build your next LoFi song that way. I look forward to part 2!
@@NahreSol UA-cam Search: how to make low-fi beats...
I have learned much more important things with Nahre, but to put the laptop in the keyboard's music stand like that is just pure genius!!!
The sound was too clear. The "melody" moved to fast. But the "melody" was very cool. Good first try, excited for more
Yes haha thank you 😁
Could always take the finished product and speedchange it like a 45rpm record playing at 33rpm.
@@BeatleJWOL true, but if the piece/song wasnt designed to be slow it may not sound "right". Though slowing/speeding up pieces/songs is a legitimate technique, so yeah good point.
Nahre Sol that said the twelve tone bass was insane
clear sounds are often in lo-fi
Side note I LOOOOVE how your editing style has evolved, this dry sarcasm over such an adorable personality is hilarious. And that demonitization/copyright on off button had me floored. I’m not versed enough in lo fi to comment on that, but as someone who has already enjoyed watching and rewatching your videos, your style is becoming even more enjoyable. Keep up the great work
Man, I used to play with this like that too and had no idea what I was doing. At times I got something special, but never really kept it. This brings back memories
Sounds like the best type of music making :))
It sounds like a demented Wu-Tang Beat. That 12-tone bass gives it a real woozy but menacing tonality.
Would sound crazy with some chopped vocal samples interspersed throughout.
Honestly really great seeing you become more and more interested in new sounds and genres on here and Sound Field and expanding your horizons. It's also super interesting seeing someone obviously super talented branch out and practice integrating new and often intimidating styles into their musical repertoire.
Pt.2 should be 🔥
Love the “as digested by” series. As a beatmaker, I empathise with this one the most. Great job 👏🏾
This doesn't sound lofi to me it sounds like a song I would hear in maybe a thriller movie or a blackxplotation film
or when you accidentally stumble upon the wutang clan while just strolling around your room in isolation
Scandinavian crime music!
could not study to this beat, 10/10 would listen again
Always love the fact that you're trying to mix things up and find the intersection of different musical concepts. And then sharing it with us? Awesome!
Hopefully this won’t come across too negatively (because I really like your videos) but so far it sounds too random and disconnected, though I do love the interlocked tritones in there.
To me, a huge part of the appeal of this kind of music is the production, the effective use of compression for example, so it all sounds less sterile and separated. I am sure some of your amazing music friends can show you sidechain compression if you don’t know about it already.
Have you considered flipping a sample from a twelve tone recording instead to instantly get that lofi sample feeling, when you chop some pre-existing recording and re-arrange it?
Again, just some thoughts, and obviously I can’t express everything within this limited space without overstaying my welcome. :)
VVLV Music exactly what I thought. I feel like she let go of the analysis she made in the beginning and consequently dropped the ball
Definitely the definition of 12-tone!
Really nice and fresh ideas. But the disconnected remark sticks to much.........for now.
totally agree. timbre, EQ, compression and other production techniques are pretty crucial parts of how people relate to electronic music and classical musicians (no offence) often aren't quite equipped to understand them. lo-fi isn't something you can transcribe onto sheet music.
Honestly she could play one of the pieces she has composed, then straight up sample and chop it up. Finger drum in some 808's and tastefully mix the production for taste.
This was freaking awesome! As someone who is very down with making beats but has a massive love for music theory this was too much fun to watch! Very much looking forward to part 2!
Next video : Nujabes, as digested by a classical musician
PLEASE
Aaaaah... Nujabes
+ Shigeto
In my head, I've imagined but never tried "hip hop meets serialism". Thank you so much for this! Want to see this style expanded
Sounds killer Nahre! More videos using Logic!!
Definitely some experimental jazz vibes from this. Super cool
I think you're overthinking lofi. It's obvious your knowledge of music is out of this world and you seem to have all these ideas to make the perfect lo-fi in theory but its very straight forward I think. A simple beat with that modern snare everyone uses, a simple melody on repeat. Maybe add a bit more of that retro feel with the sound of radio noise in the background, maybe even start off with a famous speech from a movie or whatever. For your next attempt it would be very cool to see you sample from Shiloh. Many artists do and its a cool implementation to the lofi area that uses lyrics. You could possibly check out someone like "timmies" or "sagun" for inspo :) great work nonetheless
Let her innovate that should be the point
sounds like something you should be doing, my friend. your ideas, you make them happen. ")
@@dudleybarker2273 Sadly don't have the resources nor knowledge of how to produce
Chopping and flipping samples is its own artform, this was still interesting though
Just discovered this channel and I love it. Really appreciate the amount of openness you display while exploring new concepts and musical ideas. I personally find it very inspiring.
I guess if I have advice, less is more.
I feel like there's too much going on with the drum tracking, or maybe the sounds you used were too conflicting.
The 12-tone baseline was actually pretty interesting. Making that the focal point, and using the piano and drum track to highlight or accent certain key notes and beats would go a long way.
Yeah, It's seems like a band group that don't care about each other. Don't harmonize or any.
This format is great, feels much more personal, keep up the good work!
more like a progressive jazz that never really progesses
🤣
A trick too is play notes microtonally tuned up and down a few cents , add old tape wobble. The rest is just standard hip hop beats along with the aforementioned wobbles and dirtying up, and add filters to make it sound old. Oh and bit crushing can sometimes work wonders too. No standards here , creativity is really unlimited, I loved the piece Nahre :)
Lo-fi Cool.
Idea: Try to play with your mood, I am convinced it will help. Create a mood or emotion around the track, Lo-Fi tends to be more somber but I am sure you can Feel outside the box.
Thank you 😊 that bit of advice helps!
@@NahreSol I'm excited for what comes next!
You are an inspiration when throwing yourself into the deep end of genres that are totally out of your comfort zone. The will to do this is what makes a good musician a great musician.
I would like to see Vaporwave, as Digested by a Classical Musician.
thst'd be cursed
yes pleaseeee
I think that is a really hard thing to do since vaporwave has a great variety of 'subgenres' 🤔
**S y n t h w a ve** - for actual content
indeed
i think people address the issues far better than i could, but as someone who loves lo-fi dearly, i find joy in the simplicity of the sounds. they're soothing, nostalgic, often sleep-inducing. rap trio epik high's last album uses elements of lo-fi in all the tracks in a very updated way, perhaps you could learn more from hearing how each track tackles the individual details of lo-fi. as i mentioned in another comment, nujabes really paved the way for the genre so its good to start your research there! many of his works were quite simple, often repetitive but memorable, and genuinely iconic. i hope to see you tackle lo-fi in a part 2!
Bro: How to play jazz bass bro
Arnold: Oh bro just play all the notes bro
Bro: Oh cool bro
this is what I've been waiting for !!!
Teacher: so how did you make this essay
Me: 4:18
Bass line is like Super Mario meets old school hip-hop
Love these vids
keep it up
It sounds more like boombap, with the tritone making it feel super dark, unlike most lofi which is more lighter and lazy style composition. This was super intense and awesome but too mysterious and tense to fit into lofi, dope beat!!
Omg such a teaser the final sound!
Soo satisfiying.
Nahre! Adressing the fact that you feel like the keyboard is laggy when recording into logic. if you go to Logic Pro X > Preferences > Audio, and lower the I/O buffer size, there will be less delay between your midi controller and your ears.
using quantise puts things completely in time but means you lose any syncopation that you might want to incorporate, or any errors that make a track sound more human and natural.
Just go to Record on the top toolbar and select Low Latency Recording
If she uses ASIO drivers, the delay is about 11ms
@@zan6585 ASIO is a windows thing, created by Steinberg to provide for low latency, as windows wdm/dsound audio drivers are horrible. The lowest latency that works well is a combination of a good soundcard with a good cpu, and using the appropriate drivers depending on the platform. Also some FX need some extra time to 'look ahead' for their processing and introduce extra latency (e.g. a lot of limiters/compressors do this), the DAW will then add latency on all the other tracks to compensate for this, increasing the overall latency. Most DAW's have the option to disable this latency compensation for recording purposes (then you mute the tracks with fx with latency, and use the built in metronome to record against, or just try not to use (or disable) FX with extra latency until most things are recorded).
Loving your videos, and find it super interesting to see someone with your background and skills being intrigued by electronic/hiphop music, I really think someone with your musical knowledge working together with more seasoned sound designers / producers could result in very interesting stuff.
The CP88 also has an audio interface built in and transmits midi/audio over USB. Pretty sure she’s not using ASIO drivers as she’s on a Mac and not using Cubase.
@@zan6585 Which is too much, I can't play piano with delay more than 8ms at all.
She should monitor her keyboard directly or get an audio interface that gets lower latency if she wants to play plugins live.
I love it solely unique, sounds sample but it's all original, you're creative process was chill yet uninhibited
quantize - the ultimate victory of creativity over laziness. Yeah. Love quantize.
Staying detuned for part 2
Sounds like some oldschool gangsta rap beat more than anything :D
"We don't need to practice" - words to live by, thank you Nahre! Love lo-fi hip hop, your interpretation is fascinating, especially the use of 12 tone serious and the use of tri-tones
Nahre: We don't need to practice
*Ling Ling wants to know your location*
Lang Lang?
@@slimanemerkouche9029 He/She meant Ling Ling's reference from TwosetViolins
lol, ling lings
Hahahahahahahah
@@syaron4273 yes.
I loved whatever song was playing that ended the video, more of thattttt!
12-Tone Lo-fi Jazz? She’s on everything. Save some for me Narhe.....dang. ✊🏽😅
I love watching you go through your creative process. I didn't care for what you came up with so much. But that little piece of music at the end was delightful! I also use that izotope vinyl vst. Love it.
That was a blast! I could see the influence of the genre, but for sure very different.
That interlocked tritone reminded me of Nas' "NY State of Mind''s opening for some reason. This is a good thing. I wouldn't call what you put together "Lo-fi Hip Hop", it sounds closer to that Nas' track or other tracks from around that time, sort of a "Broken Down" aesthetic that Lo-fi flirts with but in a different way. It's cool to see that distill out so naturally. Really excited for the next iteration, I love the Lo-fi Hip Hop thing, so this is great.
Omg I thought about it instantly too!
Lol I love how much fun you're having with this. Rock on!
20th cent. chill music: Erik Satie
21st cent. chill music: Lofi hip-hop
If Erik satie was born in this century he'd be lofi artist
Excellent point 😁😁😁
@@NahreSol thanks, I'd like to see you revisit the "as digested by a classical musician" videos every now and then, since you've probably improved in that style and or matured your ideas
Actually, I've heard a few lo fi tracks with the Gymnopédie chords
@@frenchef7 they are really chill and repetitive. As intended by the mad genius of satie :)
@@pantoleonantonio9653 And of course it's in lydian, the scale of true happiness
This was inspiring - the way you approached this. I was listening to Gang Starr earlier today and Guru almost could have rapped over this beat. You made this fun to watch and I like how you are using creativity. Some of us can lose that at times.
"we can quantize this"... me : OH BOY YOU"RE IN FOR A TREAT WHEN YOU KNO HOW TO DRAW MIDI
I'm sure it's different for everyone, but lo-fi hip-hop often makes me feel lonely, and nostalgic in a bittersweet way, like I'm thinking of times that are gone and will never come back, or time that was lost or wasted.
It sounds like I feel negatively towards it, but its actually the opposite. Surprisingly, its mostly a very cozy feeling, the sad, sorrowful loneliness and regret that it makes me feel is like... the best way I can describe it is like seasoning, or ornamentation, on top of the far more dominant coziness. Cozy like a warm shower, or lying in bed on a rainy Sunday afternoon and just listening to the rain falling on the roof.
mndsgn is probably my favorite lofi-ish artist
Glad you referenced FlyLo's tiny tortures; great song and mood. That 'pecking' sound does a nice sweeping pan which makes it doubly satisfying!
Love the video, some small advice on the hip-hop aspect of the Lo-Fi genre: Lo-Fi hip hop has heavy late 80s/90s NY/East Coast hip-hop (such as Tribe Called Quest, Nas, and Producers such as DJ Premier and J-Dilla, also known as boom bap style of hip hop) Jazz and Funk influences. so when it comes to the groove, typically the Bpm is 75 to 90 which is the typical tempo for most Lo-fi beats/Instrumentals. Personally, a good place to start researching/getting inspiration (in sequence if desired) for Lo-Fi type of Music is: KRS ONE, Wu Tang Clan, J-Dilla, Tribe Called Quest, 9th wonder, Madlib, Nujabes, Bsd.u, Potsu, Chinsaku, Ninjoi, and Jinsang. these are my personal favorites, surface level to some, nonetheless, my favorites. I hope this helps, and keep up the good work!
Definitely sounds unique. Something that is characteristic of a lot of lofi hip hop is a vintage, somber, tranquil feel though. Also, there’s beauty in its simplicity.
Looking forward to your part 2 :)
Seeing that Nahre Sol just uploaded a video makes me ditch the TwoSetViolin upload that I started watching. 😀😀 (Both of which, of course, I'm doing instead of practicing.) 😎😎
You are practicing your ear!!! That's my excuse, lol!!
"you don't have to practice" -Nahre Sol, 2019
Ling Ling can watch both at the same time and practice while watching them
I love it! It was great to see how you approach something that you're new to. Very inspiring!
Wouldn't say lo-fi, but definitely has a sort of ending toward an MF doom feel. Dark and dank
You are the best person on youtube.
Sounds like eating an octopus. Weird but oddly satisfying at the same time
Jeez, i've been waiting for this way too long. thanks
I would love to see a video of you just playing a challanging classical piano piece like la campanella.
Aren't there like 20000 pianists on youtube and not on youtube already for that? Jk ❤
@@NahreSol but we like YOU
Nahre Sol Speaking of which I want to talk to you about your Scherzos. :)
This is as new of an adventure for me as it is you. I can't stop thinking of your excellent modification of the piano bench. 🌟☺️
It has an experimental vibe that I could see being the ground work for a lot of producers in the late 80s, early 90s (I'm thinking Wu Tang, specifically). It's missing the groove that hip hop is supposed to have. Also, there is a lot going on with the percussion. You've got drums, piano, the clicky sound effect, and another piano. Maybe offsetting the frenetic percussion with a simpler synth would smooth it out.
Your second go sounds a lot more like what I know as lofi, it has that late-night relaxed atmosphere that I associate with it.
In my opinion, lofi is all about the atmosphere and the sampling. I say for the next video focus on getting a groovy beat and simple looping melody with jazzy chords then go nuts with sampled soundbites (glitchy computer/vinyl noises, pieces of conversations, odd instruments) and go heavy on the compression and EQ for the old broken record effects.
I'm by no means a lofi producer, but I'm a big fan of the genre so I'm very happy to see you're getting into it, good luck!
Wun two is a good friend of mine, he lives in my city (Frankfurt)
This legit sounds like me when I was 15 years old and high af on FL studio
Your process is super interring to watch. Keep videos like this going.
Hi Nahre, i think you were onto something with the tune you created from 8:45! Your initial attempt I think veered off a bit from lo-fi. If you think in terms of Chopin, lo-fi is his raindrop prelude, and yours was a sort of slowed down fantasie impromptu. Still loved the process of watching you discover something and make it your own, tho!
man I love this so much, so genuine and talented
Best part "You know , i dont know" at 0:27
Love watching your endeavouring adventures in experimenting different styles of music. Thanks for making these videos!
Nahre was there any J Dilla, Madlib, or Nujabes on that playlist? IMO, those 3 are common influences amongst beat makers and held with highest regard that itd be a shame to miss them, especially since 2 of them are beatmakers that went out of their way for gritty unsterile sounds thats sought after in lofi. Theres so many mixes now with just their music but at the least check out these tracks on youtube:
J Dilla - Life
Madlib - Flowers
Nujabes - Luv (sic) pt.2
Thasokay flying lotus too
@@yvngarmz5984 true... [adult swim] vibes.
To think 10 years ago him and everyone at Brainfeeder were just on the rise like time flies
I can't emphasize enough how correct this comment is, those three (especially Madlib and Dilla) essentially created what we know to be lo-fi hip-hop.
Her shit was DJ Premier-worthy. I must be a boomer cause this was quintessential hip hop.
I like your editing style and down to earth communication with viewers, funny as a drummer watching a pianist approach to making grooves, keep going!
I am really interested how the thing would turn out with some pad sounds layered on that.
Me too! 😁
Pretty fresh! I want to say the lo-fi sound came from drum machines like the SP-404 where in order to get more sample time, mono was used over stereo. The repeater and other fx account for the "glitch" sounds and those were the lo-fi foundations of today.