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00:00 Intro
01:19 Jam 2/Course Sale
02:09 The Gadget
03:10 Sustainer Experiments
05:07 The History
05:48 What is feedback?
06:38 Review
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now my wrong notes will sustain forever, cool.
I like to think of it as "unexpected artistic dissonance"
That reminds me of Kmac2021's video "make a mistake while using a delay pedal" XD
long form jazz
@@m0-m0597oh yeah that video is gold!
Ah yes, the Sustainiac. You can play a note, go out, grab a bite to eat, and it’ll still be ringing out when you get home.
“Oh I get that reference!”
Perfect combo with an amp that goes up to 11.
Just like a piece of rail with a string on it.
Until the battery runs out lol
@@Halfaloaf599 That makes me want to buy a guitar with one and do a “science” experiment.
Robert Fripp, Steve Hackett and Andy Latimer have been playing with it for a long while. It's worth listening to their stuff and how they used it.
Also Reeves Gabrels and Radiohead’s Ed O’Brien, Joe Satriani and Steve Vai have both used sustainer systems as well.
robert fripp actually uses a fernandes sustainer which pretty much functions similarly, but former king crimson guitarist/singer adrian belew does use a sustainiac too.
also fun fact, when recording "heroes" by david bowie, robert fripp didn't use any sustaining device (meaning no sustainer pickup nor ebow); he actually swiveled around in his stool to certain positions where the notes would sustain best, using pieces of tape on the floor to help him.
You beat me to mentioning Steve Hackett. The sustain that goes forever is a big part of his unique sound.
Living Colour's Vernon Reid too I believe.
@@the_construkction_of_light I did the same thing for years on stage. I had at one time measured distances from the amp that evoked certain notes to sustain - when I set up for a gig I'd measure and mark those distances. Physics is fun!
Shoegaze enthousiasts:
Who am I kidding they stay silent and just play more drones.
Synyster gates creates some unbelievable sounds with the sustaniac, the harmonic mode is wild. Check out the solo on Cosmic 👍
Hello sir samurai music man I think it is about time you show us a collection update of all your six strings
I think you are right, it has grown substantially since I last did this and stated "I have too many guitars I don't need any more"...
@@samuraiguitarist you can never have to many guitars
@@FoxxoFox anyone who says they have enough guitars is lying to themselves
Oh man, when I was a teenager me and dad were huge Muse fans, Manson weren't selling the MB-1s and such yet so we built our own Matt Bellamy replica with a Fernandes Sustainer and I still adore it! Always wondered what Sustainiac had over Fernandes that prompted so many people to swap, including Matt
I'm so late to the game on Muse, my buddy showed me that video that's like a futuristic western and I am converted
@@samuraiguitarist Knights of Cydonia is such a banger dude! Black Holes and Revelations is the album it's from and I think a lot of it would be your jam. Some very cool use of a sustainer and slide too!
your Dad is cool.
@@R1GAMBLER the dude is such a legend
@@samuraiguitarist You should check out their Wembley 2007 show. It showcases a lot of moments that particularly show the sustainiac pickup being used in different settings, aside from an overall brilliant musicianship.
Proud owner of two Sustainiac drivers in both of my main guitars, dual Jackson Kellys! These things are absolute game changers for me, makes solos more dynamic and they can give you those awesome rock star moments on any stage you’re on.
WARNING AHEAD:
The only issue I have with them is wiring them. My guitar tech called it “wire pasta”. If you hate soldering like I do but you’re absolutely dead set on installing one of these things in your guitar, trust me, DON’T EVEN BOTHER DOING THIS YOURSELF, TAKE IT TO A PROFESSIONAL THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING - the circuit board ALONE has an 8-pin and 10-pin connector on either side that has to be wired across both potentiometers in your control cavity. This means that just the circuit board alone requires soldering a total of 18 WIRES across both potentiometers, not including your pickup and the driver itself.
There’s actually two different systems out there, the other is the Fernandes Sustainer. The Fernandes offers the same functionality, but it’s an older and less refined system than the Sustainiac. General consensus seems to he the Sustainiac is superior, but the Fernandes still has it’s fans like Reeves Gabrels (who’s been using them for 30-ish years now) and Radiohead’s Ed O’Brien.
And Robert Fripp!
@@MEGAMIGA Gabrels and O’Brien both spring to mind because they’ve both got signature guitars equipped with Sustainers.
@@MrBeardsley Actually, Robert Fripp has a signature guitar made by the excellent Crimson Guitars!
Yeah Fernandes held the patent for many years. IIRC Sustainiac licensed it off them. But the patent is expired now, so anyone can sell them. I have a Fernandes Jaguar with a sustainer. It's a fun toy to muck around with for about five minutes, but you have to live with whatever neck pickup is bundled with it. Not that it's a bad sounding pickup in it's own right though.
@@frankcooke1692 Can't you change the neck pickup and wire it up to the Sustainer system?
1:20 bro just casually made the most disgusting riff known to man 😍😍
Gotta unleash the stank whenever possible
Agree. Good review, and now I WANT.
Every time I hear the sustainiac I think of Eddie Van Halen on the 2004 tour. He had one in his wolfgang and it honestly sounded cool
I have a Kramer Baretta that I got from MusicYo for $400 back in in the early 2000s that has a sustainer. Mine has a knob to control the intensity of the sustainer so I can adjust how fast and strong the feedback kicks in.
Schecter's Hellraiser Hybrid Sustainiac has that, too, plus a perfect neck joint, so that's on my short list
nobody tell 'em about the Moog guit
Type O Negative were fairly early users of it. Kenny Hickey had one in his guitar starting with a Fernandes in 1996 and later with Schecter, and Peter Steele had a prototype in his bass.
My god, the sheer POTENTIAL for Post-Rock sounds this has is mind-boggling!
GY!BE and SWANS have probably already used something like this before...
Something that is nice on sustainiac guitars is that you can open up the back of it and turn some knobs to change the intensity or how fast the harmonics come.
My first experience with this pickup was seeing Steve Hackket perform live. Steve playing peter gabriel era genesis had his sustain all over it
The effect with the slide is just lovely!
Because of Tim Pierce I bought a Fender Ed O'Brien signature guitar with a sustainer PU on the first fret and a toggle switch for different overtone frequencies. I used to play with an E-Bow so this was definitely right up my alley. Fun guitar.
U2’s The Edge used a sustainer for his (volume swelled) shimmered notes in With or Without You. Check those out.
He even used the Ed O'Brien signature guitar for a recent tour for some of the songs that required the sustain - Ed being another guitarist who uses them alot.
People have been sleeping on sustainiacs for what seems like forever, and I never understood why. It is the most underrated piece of hardware, and every electric guitar should have one. Very rare to find stock guitars with them though.
Check out Styx's 1997 Return to Paradise Chicago concert for JY to put his sustainiac equipped Kramers/Hamers to good work throughout most of the entire concert.
I'm currently working on a project with a 6 independent sustain system (1 sustainer per string).
It's based on a Graphtech ResoMax piezo bridge (6 independent piezo saddles) and a 6 independent poles pickup. It allows to avoid having strings cross-feeding to other strings and to control and adjust the amount of feedback per string for a much more balanced effect.
Oh this is a cool idea! I find myself doing hand and finger gymnastics trying to mute other strings when using it for solos.
It's one of the reasons why I don't use it much.
The low strings also have a tendency to ring much more because they are thick, have more metal and therefore more magnetic force. You can adjust the pickup so it's closer to the higher strings, but you can only adjust it so much.
and I'm over here lightly palm muting to reduce sustain
Got one of these in my guitar and I absolutely love it. Definitely inspires some great ideas that wouldn’t be possible without it.
I absolutly love this review
Same
I saw a Dweezil Zappa interview a few years ago explaining it.
IU remember waasaayyy back in the 80s a demo 45rpm included in a guitar magazine for an early model Sustainiac. That demo was incredible.
piano players: look at what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our power
Synth players: Ơ̶̢̡͈̤͈̦̇̂́̿̎̏̿͝͝ͅḩ̸̨̻̦̜̩͍̼̠̼͖͍̩̀̀̆͐̏͌̂̈́̈́͆͗̉̃͠ ̵̨̢̛̩̳̖͇̦̲̮͉̼̬̠̊ÿ̷̢̰̫͉͇̟̘͚́̅ͅo̴̧̨̬͈̙͈͔͚̻̗̬͈̪͔͉̿́͜ự̸̗̽̐̓͗̀͌̋́͊̀̆̉̄̔ ̵̘̽̂̅̏̈́́̒̿̇̑̔̍ͅẇ̴̨̡͔̲̥̺̭̯̐̎̈́͘͝ͅẽ̶̱̺͍̦̟͕̗̮͇͎̯̥̼͔͖̦̍̑̽̓̆͋̈́̚͜ṙ̴͚̣́̈͐̇͑̀̋̐͑̑͠ę̶̰̼̙̟͇̫̙̘̥̱̙͙̯̗̺͂̊̾̊ͅ ̸͚̘͕͇͎̼͚͕̩͎̭̭̒́̄̒̈́̀̅̿̑̓̏̎̀͒͝͝t̶̨̯̱̠̖͔͍̯̲́͐̿͆̏́̌̈́̓̄̌̐̀̊̉̚͠a̷̘͓̗̖̝̔̿͒͌̽̓̑̓͠ḷ̶͉̙̉͑k̴͎̈̓̿̈́̏̑͌̕̕͠͝ǐ̶̢̟͎̭̫̀͋̋̋̓̕n̴̡̛̛̜̫̖̺̼͈̤̘̭̖̙͔̺̤̯͑̂̔̾̌̉́̅͝g̵̠̘͉̝̠̮̣̃̽͊ ̸̧̢̧̢͔̼̦̗̩̳͎͚̇ͅẗ̵͔̫͍͙̗̞̲̬̎͋̅͛̒̈́̂͒͠ͅǒ̵̟̘͚͈̥ ̷̢̠͉̱̥͕͕͇̫̘̘̤͂ͅͅm̸̟̯̥̯̞̰̭̞͔̦̮̣̅̎̆͆̆͒̂̓̇͌̂͘̕̚͠e̸̱̤̥̬̟͇̓̑́̍͌̎͛̈́̅̃̅͊̈́̕ ̸̜̖͚̜͈͔̦͚͗̈́̋̉̔̇̐̾́̓͂̚̕͠t̵̢̧͈͚̳͕͙̟̳̻͉̮̪͖̫̭̹̂ḩ̶̧̡͈̣̞̗̝͉͈̠͎͈̓̽̈́̑̀̎̈́̈́̄͜͜͝͝͝͠ȩ̶̡̢̫̤͎̮͉͉͕̞̂̇̋ͅ ̴͇̤̘̙̖̤̟̓ě̵̢͕̘̲̠̩͙͖̳̠̜̱̋ͅṉ̶̨̺̯̲̲̲̣̣͕͙̭͈͉̹͗̄͛̔͐̒̔t̸̡͛̐̓̂̈i̵̛͈̰͐́̓̌̂͝ͅr̵̥͔̺͂̈̈́̓̌̀̆̀̌̉̚ȩ̸̡̨͖̞̮̱̭̝̯̠̪͖͍͓͇̲̾̈́͆̃̓ ̵̢̠͉̩͈͈̤̫͍̲̟̟̯͖̹̿̓̽͋ẗ̵̻͔͙̥̹̱̬͍̰͇̲̦́͐̾̊̑̈́͂̓̚͜͝͝ͅi̵̦̞̭̰̘̪̳͙̮̦̫͈͈̅̈́̍͐́̇m̴̪̦͓̪͇͔̆͋͋̾̚͜ͅĕ̶̛̳̺̱̗͚̤̳̭̾̆̈́̎̑̅̉͝ͅ?̵̺̖͕̃̀͋̃
Except even notes on the piano with the sustain pedal pushed still eventually decay. This actually rings indefinitely or until muted
@@gdawgs101 Let me introduce you to synthesizers. I genuinely have no idea why guitars don't just come with built in amps and synths at this point, that are compact enough now.
@@NabPunkShaun Martin says hey
@@NabPunkjamstik: let me introduce myself
Try this. Drone high E and B and play E major pentatonic melodies on lower strings and with a bit of overdrive and viola ,you have bagpipes (or something that sounds like Big Country sounding like bagpipes)
Awesome playing and that guitar is beautiful!
She's a beautiful guitar !!! Had my eyes on her since 2019 , just wish they made a hard tail version
pedals such as the Digitech Freqout can do similar things but with a lot more options.
Running a boost pedal into a compression pedal will do a good job at imitating this.
The slide part was amazing.
Such fun, reminds me of my old ebow on some of the sounds you were getting. Thanks
I bought a Schecter Banshee Mach 7 FR-S a few months back. It is bucketloads of fun to play
I have the green and black crackle one and absolutely love it.
Same, I have the red one. It's a great guitar overall.
The feedback history was pretty awesome. I came about it in my teens playing in punk bands with a semi hollow epiphine dot. I found that bands like rancid, nofx, casualties would all use the guitars feedback for energy and ambience so I picked it up.
Seeing that the Beatles set it up trips me out but I guess their influence is everywhere 🍻
Radioheads Ed O’Brien has a signature with fender that has been out since 2017
And there was me thinking the sustainiac had been used on Boston's More Than A Feeling in the late 70s.
5:28 More of a George impression but still good
While not quite the same thing - The Church uses a LOT of E-Bow. It's essentially the same thing but not built into the guitar. Really cool sound.
Really awesome device. I have a Digitech Freqout pedal which does something very similar.
I've desperately wanted one of these since I discovered them from muse a couple years ago, I always felt like the options were so limited, I'm hoping they become less niche and more people put them in their production guitars
Between the Schecter range, the EOB strat and Burnys LP copies there are lots of great choices.
I just bought an open box Schecter C-1 Platinum FR-Sustaniac Level 1 Satin Crimson Red Burst. Yes, it's tons of fun!!!!!!
That's my main guitar. I rarely use the sustainiac effect on to be honest. But I love doing these modified Dive bombs where instead of hitting the harmonic, you hammer on the actual note and the sustainiac mode to tail off as a harmonic kinda does the job for you if you time it right. So you're not limited to the harmonics, nor trying to do a pinch harmonic coming out of a dive bomb with strings all floppy (very hard to do).
Of course you can"t go wrong with a Schecter. Very well built and easy to play. I wish Long & Mcquade had more of them. Here, and especially in Winnipeg, you're mostly limited to buying online at LA Music, Sweetwater, Reverb (good luck not getting scammed). If you want to try them out you're mostly forced to drive to a Guitar Center in the States.
Oh and definitely an important PSA is that changing strings and tuning sucks indeed, as it's always the case with a Floyd Rose.
Someone's has never seen Ed O'Brian's signature Stratocaster...
Fernandes’ Sustainer is also extremely happening for a competing product. If you’re looking for a single string, the EBow is a great device, too. For an acoustic, check out the Paul Vo Vo-96.
A sustainiac, ebow and a slide would be a brain melting combination!
add a freqout pedal and we're on
An ebow and a sustainer at the same time is kinda pointless, and I say this as a frequent ebow user.
By the way, if anyone wants to do the slide sustainer thing, you can get pretty damn close with a metal screwdriver. Just use it like a slide and kind of like you're bowing a violin.
I have one on my Schecter I bought 3 years ago. I absolutely love it. Should have had one a long time ago.
Guitarist and only consistent member of King Crimson Robert Fripp has a Fernandes Sustainer pickup in his custom Fernandes-made Goldtop, which is where I first heard of them.
Wh- what?! 🤯 Gotta have it!
Do a video on the moog guitar! :) That was a guitar from 2010, way ahead of it's time! Not only does it do the infinite sustain, it also mutes them and gets wild effects.
I have the Schecter Elite with the sustainiac. The single coil pickup on the sustainiac actually sounds wonderful. I use the sustainiac with lots of reverb and delay to make pad sounds while playing worship music at church.
Ed O'Brien from Radiohead had a signature fender stratocaster with a sustainer
Something to note that wasn't mentioned in the video is that if you try to hold multiple notes, the one on the heaviest string will eventually win and only that note will sustain. Similarly, if the low E string isn't muted, it will eventually start vibrating and take over the resonant frequency
Hahahaha this is freaking great. You are one of my favorite youtubers ever. So informative and high level :) Thank you ❤
Not to mention how good you are at playing from the heart😵💫
More than 20 years ago, when I thought I was rich, I bought a Phil Collen DefLep PC-1 that had a flat fretboard and a sustainiac pickup. Beautiful guitar and cool sustain effect until I realized that I was performing Yacht Rock in Key West and it really wasn't the guitar for me.
Traded it for a '68 Paisley Tele and all was right.
Don't sleep on the Fender Ed O'Brien Strat if you're not as shred-centric. I tried one of these on a super rad Schecter but the guitar itself wasn't really for me. The EOB is built around the idea of a modded 50s style Strat, including a very chunky neck, which is to be considered as I've seen more than a few of the necks for sale after owners have replaced the original. It has a very usable single-coil sized humbucker in the bridge and a standard Strat middle pup, and sounds great in all of the positions (including neck), but the sustain feature really opens it up.
Great job SG. I've always wanted one, but was too chicken to do the mods on any of my guitars to install one. I have managed to get a lot of the same feedback from my set up and effects at moderate volumes, and when you hit the right spot, the hair will stand up on your neck its so cool!
I have the Ed O BRIEN signature strat, and it has the Fernandez sustainer system. A lot of fun.
I have one in my schecter E1 and I LOVE it
In Firmware Update Version 3.7, the "Feedbacker" (Mono), a Line 6 Original feedback generator Block was added to the lineup. It has 12 different types of feedback: Octave, Unison, +Octave, Oct +5th, +2 Octaves, 2 Oct+3rd, Oct+5th, Oct+7th, Mid to Low, High to Low, Random, Random Trigger, and a number of other controllable Parameters. It is loads of fun on my HX Stomp!
The perfect tool to mimic guitar larsen while playing with heaphones... (Slash's Don'ty cry solo, I'm looking at you !). A built-in e-bow !
Its not like a guitar that sustains well. You feel the string vibrating with its own life. Its a beast you have to tame. Its fkn awesome. Im on my third.
I started using Sustainiacs probably 14 years ago after falling in love with Type O Negative. Now I have three: one in a Floyd equipped super strat, one in an SG and (my personal favorite) one in a Squier Bass VI
It feels like my head is being filled up with echoes that don't fade away AT ALL. Wild.
I had one on my Schecter (Sun Valley telecaster, sea foam green)…dude its so much fun just making whale noises. You can just go into a trance cranking that reverb.
Its also really fun to just play melodies with it without having to pick.
Way more convenient than an eBow. Matt Bellamy uses it to great effect.
When I found out about this 6 months ago, I knew I needed one. I found a sick modified Kramer Baretta that was routed out for the sustainiac neck pickup.
Getting strong Judas Priest's Turbo vibes at 4:50!
1951:Rocket 88 - Jackie Brenston & His Delta Cats.
my first guitar i bought had a sustaniac, it was cool for a minute or two. i replaced it with a normal pickup and it now lives in a box. it made the other pickups sound meh. and went through batteries like they were free.
Fellow Canadian Michel St-Père has used this very effectively throughout his playing in the bands Mystery and Huis.
to any one who enjoyed the music he played in this video, i highly recommend listening to the Hylics and Hylics 2 OST soudn tracks
A good example of a Sustainiac being used properly is the intro solo for Avenged Sevenfold's "Save Me".
One of my dream guitars is a schecter apocalypse c7 FRS. when i first saw the sustainiac system paired with a Floyd it blew my mind
Sammy G, I'm surprised that you didn't touch on the Fernandes guitars that had Sustainer pickups in them in the 80s-00s. They were possibly the first guitars to have Sustain pickups before they went out of business. RIP Fernandes Guitars. Ahead of their time and sadly forgotten by most.
This would be amazing for drone metal.
On Tuesday I found a guitar amp dumped near my house. I gave it a quick look over and I can't see anything wrong with it.
I'm thinking the speaker has gone or a fuse, but luckily it hasn't rained in a few days so it's dry.
Hopefully it'll be a free little amp. 😄
Awesome
5:28 Biblically accurate John Lennon impressions👌🏻
Naaahh
Love these and I've been eyeing the green rain one for a while. Also I keep commenting on your videos when you mention wanting to try the whacky and unusual. Variax man... Variax. And do the modern ones not the old ones with the hard set up and all that. I mean I'm even willing to loan one out if your interested
I have a Ibanez JS 2480 and it has one of those SUSTAINIAC pickups !!! Its my favorite guitar!!😊
Matthew Bellamy notoriously uses these. I almost considered putting one in my Manson guitar once.
wondering how long it would take to hear Matt mentioned, he's awesome! Would love a Manson with one in, just waiting until they release a run with the Sustainiac and XY pad (and until I get I get the money!)
I have a Sustainiac in my MBM-1 and it is SO MUCH FUN. They're a bit expensive, but I haven't regretted it one bit.
Oh, and to my knowledge installing one can be a bit of a nightmare, though I just bought my guitar with one straight from Manson so I didn't have to worry about that part.
@crustyjpeg7064 yeah, it's super expensive, plus idk if I would want to permanently mod it
I have a shectar c-1 FRS they come in a bunch of styles I grabbed the purple reign edition absolutely love it.
dearly beloved...
Aaaah, 98% of Def Leppard guitar solos exist because of this
I can’t remember if it’s the Sustainiac itself, but Phil Collen (Def Leppard) has a sustainer in his signature Jackson model
Just listen to a Vai album amd you will see what the Sustaniac does from top to bottom.. It is an amazing product but it doesn't always fit styles or sound.. But after this video I think I will finally try one in my Music Man Axis (EVH design Eddie didn't keep but kept the guitars they made him) and since I have played Jems and Ibamez 550's all of life I have in the last few years added Custom Telecasters and as I said Music Man Axis as well as having an old Ibamez rebuilt (Paul Gilbert Model, the original model with the painted on F holes) with a Fernandez blues neck and I think my Music Man could use this help and inspire me to use it a little more with my Dimarzio EVOLUTION bridge pickup...
Nice Video tho
Cheers
Oh, wow!
Would be cool to see a single coil version of the pickup
Synyster Gates uses it to perfection
have one of thes in my synyster gates custom s, they're great
You need to try Dive bombs on this!
Loved that Liverpool accent :)
I think Solar guitars made a sustaniac as well. Well done on this video bro.
The Digitech Freqout pedal does pretty much the same thing with the feedback.
They guys who developed these pickups live near me! I have a prototype unit in a pedal from when they were working on the first few versions
Sell me that pedal.
Had the chance to play my mates neon yellow schecter with one of these in... way too much fun and far too clever for my tiny brain :)