The cruelty here reminds me of the drowning rat experiments by Richter and the crowded rat experiments by Calhoun. It's why we've had Institutional Review Boards evaluate planned studies for some decades now.
🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:13 *🐒 Maternal Separation and Isolation Impact* - Description of a monkey's dependency on a cloth pad for comfort after maternal separation, - The distress caused by even brief removal of this comfort item, highlighting the need for maternal presence or substitutes. 01:00 *🧬 Scientific Inquiry into Love* - Introduction of research into the "measure of love" in a lab setting, questioning the nature of love scientifically, - Explanation of why primates, particularly rhesus monkeys, are ideal subjects for examining infant love. 02:14 *🍼 Investigating Maternal Attachment and Comfort* - Introduction of Dr. Harry Harlow's research at the University of Wisconsin on the basis of infant love, - Exploration of whether the love for a mother is based on nursing or on the need for comfort and security. 03:55 *👩🔬 Creating Artificial Maternal Figures* - Development of two artificial "mothers," one covered in cloth for comfort and the other made of wire, with distinct visual designs, - Purpose of artificial mothers: to control and measure the emotional response of infant monkeys to maternal figures. 05:23 *🌟 Monkeys’ Emotional Response to Surrogate Mothers* - Observing that monkeys spent more time with the comforting cloth mother despite nursing from the wire mother, - Discovering that tactile comfort ("contact comfort") surpasses nourishment as a basis for infant love. 07:41 *👶 Fear and Seeking Comfort* - Experiment where a monkey, frightened by an object, seeks refuge with the cloth mother, - Demonstrating that physical comfort from the mother figure provides a sense of security and reduces fear. 10:08 *🏡 Exploring Behavior in New Environments* - Experiment in which monkeys were placed in a new room with and without the cloth mother, - Finding that monkeys with the cloth mother explore confidently, while those without her display fear and hesitation. 13:48 *🔬 Barriers to Comfort* - Testing a monkey’s drive to reach the cloth mother when a barrier is placed between them, - Evidence that physical proximity to a comforting mother figure greatly enhances the monkey’s confidence. 15:28 *📅 Long-term Attachment and Separation Impact* - Observation of monkeys’ reactions to the cloth mother after six months of separation, showing that emotional bonds persist, - Concluding that early attachments are resilient and impactful on behavior even after long separations. 18:31 *😢 Effects of Maternal Deprivation* - Experiment on orphaned monkeys deprived of any maternal figure, displaying abnormal behaviors indicative of distress, - Introduction of the concept of "autistic behavior" in deprived monkeys, suggesting significant psychological impacts. 21:11 *💞 The Critical Period for Attachment* - Discovery of critical periods for forming maternal attachments in monkeys and implications for human development, - Indicating that if attachment is not formed during this period, it may permanently impact the ability to form bonds. 22:25 *🧑🤝🧑 Social Relationships Beyond Maternal Bonds* - Experiment on young monkeys developing relationships with peers and testing attachment to peers versus mothers in fear situations, - Concluding that maternal attachment remains stronger in fearful conditions, affecting future social dynamics. 23:48 *🔍 Broader Implications for Human Attachment and Development* - Summarization of findings that contribute to understanding human love, security, and attachment, - Highlighting how early attachment impacts personal growth and social relationships into adulthood. Made with HARPA AI
I've seen reports that the" 3 months to a year " (as stated in the video) in which to learn to love or will not be developed for a human baby is actually way too late. the report went on to state that "if denied a mother's love (as seen in Russian orphans) within the first 3 to 5 days resulted in attachment issues for which the child will fail to bond properly even if adopted shortly afterwards. (between 1 and 4 months old) these children will struggle with relationships and attachment for the entirety of their lives. "
Apparently, kids are going to really love their AI nanny bots, and when they grow-up they'll really love their relationship bots. This is a scary video.
Im always saddened to see people in science be cruel to the world, i hope people can separate art from artist here and realize there are two ways of retrieving data, the moral way and the messed up way, these experiments gave alot of answers quickly and painfully, and every scientist to day i strongly believe would denounce this clear animal abuse, this mentality is made okay in their heads because they believed that humans were above animal, and that animals had no consciousness, just instincts, when you think of it lower than you, you can treat it lower than you ig, idfk man makes no sense to me
Well, the good news is that suffering isn't real. Living organisms are just reaction machines. Morality is a contrivance. Cruelty is a perception, not an actuality. No action is ever cruel or kind, for such categories of feeling belong to a model of reality that is objectively false. It's all just stuff happening in a purely mechanical unfolding of cause and effect.
No, you're just not intelligent enough. Love is a direct response to a perceived threat or fear, a mechanism to alleviate anxiety and ensure survival. Love is a coping mechanism that evolved to help us manage fear and uncertainty. When we feel loved and supported, we feel safe and secure. You are in relationships with your mum, fam, friends and bf/gf or whatever because you are afraid of being alone, not doing so well and having no future. You're literally become depressed and miserable in fear without them. You're just not honest enough to admit.
Cruel humans saying this is cruel. These scientists need to understand with what was is available and somewhat acceptable to their environment and time. It is easy to say they are cruel in 2024 while stuffing your face with mcdonalds ecoli…
I do see these comments and think it’s almost depressing how everyone is up in arms about how horrible these scientists were while hiding behind the guise of a moral high ground. I bet most of these people wouldn’t budge to help someone stranded change a tire, or feed a family of immigrants who are also suffering in the same way from the cold world we all live in. Still, poor little monkeys.
Exactly! And we're actually far worse off than those monkeys. We live in societies literally built on these experiments - endless loops of behavioral control and psychological manipulation. At least the monkeys' torment had an endpoint. We're trapped in a never-ending cycle of inhumane experiments, each generation serving as unwitting test subjects for increasingly sophisticated control mechanisms. From social media algorithms triggering our attachment circuits to corporate wellness programs monitoring our every move, we're all lab primates now. The only difference is we've been conditioned to call our cage 'civilization' and celebrate the very mechanisms that keep us trapped. The machinery just keeps running, generation after generation, each one thinking they're somehow more 'evolved' than the last while running the exact same primitive programming.
It's been usefull for children social services to be trained to detach from real mothers there childs love to be replaced with corporate foster and adoptive mothers. This research gave them the time frames to work with when snatching children and relocating them
@@jaykeane25 Time frames? How is this even applicable when the animal in question is infinitely less dependent on the mother for survival in anything that resembles the same scope of time? If we're even going to start layering the temporal logic for emotional and physical dependencies you're always shifting it by almost HALF A DECADE more or less, and that's just to ballpark it without meaningful symmetry. For all intents and purposes in my mind all this specific experiment does is highlight some preference for intimacy and oxytocin in lesser primates, and the junction between fear, intimacy, and the need for protection and love. I highly doubt the times frames associated are based on this experiment, and instead have some grounding in observations on human children.
I wanna feel sorry for the lab monkey, until I realize we probably came into this world under the same conditions, and circumstances. Cool video. Human beings have a deeper core issue. The issue of not knowing where we are. Until our core essence is relieved of this question, the hidden flame of desire will never be quenched, or ever truly comforted. Until this one question is answered, the true classification of man, is: “Lost”. Can we ever be found? ❤
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The cruelty here reminds me of the drowning rat experiments by Richter and the crowded rat experiments by Calhoun. It's why we've had Institutional Review Boards evaluate planned studies for some decades now.
Cruelty?! We're far worse off ourselves.
🎯 Key points for quick navigation:
00:13 *🐒 Maternal Separation and Isolation Impact*
- Description of a monkey's dependency on a cloth pad for comfort after maternal separation,
- The distress caused by even brief removal of this comfort item, highlighting the need for maternal presence or substitutes.
01:00 *🧬 Scientific Inquiry into Love*
- Introduction of research into the "measure of love" in a lab setting, questioning the nature of love scientifically,
- Explanation of why primates, particularly rhesus monkeys, are ideal subjects for examining infant love.
02:14 *🍼 Investigating Maternal Attachment and Comfort*
- Introduction of Dr. Harry Harlow's research at the University of Wisconsin on the basis of infant love,
- Exploration of whether the love for a mother is based on nursing or on the need for comfort and security.
03:55 *👩🔬 Creating Artificial Maternal Figures*
- Development of two artificial "mothers," one covered in cloth for comfort and the other made of wire, with distinct visual designs,
- Purpose of artificial mothers: to control and measure the emotional response of infant monkeys to maternal figures.
05:23 *🌟 Monkeys’ Emotional Response to Surrogate Mothers*
- Observing that monkeys spent more time with the comforting cloth mother despite nursing from the wire mother,
- Discovering that tactile comfort ("contact comfort") surpasses nourishment as a basis for infant love.
07:41 *👶 Fear and Seeking Comfort*
- Experiment where a monkey, frightened by an object, seeks refuge with the cloth mother,
- Demonstrating that physical comfort from the mother figure provides a sense of security and reduces fear.
10:08 *🏡 Exploring Behavior in New Environments*
- Experiment in which monkeys were placed in a new room with and without the cloth mother,
- Finding that monkeys with the cloth mother explore confidently, while those without her display fear and hesitation.
13:48 *🔬 Barriers to Comfort*
- Testing a monkey’s drive to reach the cloth mother when a barrier is placed between them,
- Evidence that physical proximity to a comforting mother figure greatly enhances the monkey’s confidence.
15:28 *📅 Long-term Attachment and Separation Impact*
- Observation of monkeys’ reactions to the cloth mother after six months of separation, showing that emotional bonds persist,
- Concluding that early attachments are resilient and impactful on behavior even after long separations.
18:31 *😢 Effects of Maternal Deprivation*
- Experiment on orphaned monkeys deprived of any maternal figure, displaying abnormal behaviors indicative of distress,
- Introduction of the concept of "autistic behavior" in deprived monkeys, suggesting significant psychological impacts.
21:11 *💞 The Critical Period for Attachment*
- Discovery of critical periods for forming maternal attachments in monkeys and implications for human development,
- Indicating that if attachment is not formed during this period, it may permanently impact the ability to form bonds.
22:25 *🧑🤝🧑 Social Relationships Beyond Maternal Bonds*
- Experiment on young monkeys developing relationships with peers and testing attachment to peers versus mothers in fear situations,
- Concluding that maternal attachment remains stronger in fearful conditions, affecting future social dynamics.
23:48 *🔍 Broader Implications for Human Attachment and Development*
- Summarization of findings that contribute to understanding human love, security, and attachment,
- Highlighting how early attachment impacts personal growth and social relationships into adulthood.
Made with HARPA AI
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most people have no idea about those researches, yet they heavily influence their daily life. thanks for the sharing, always interesting posting here;
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I've seen reports that the" 3 months to a year " (as stated in the video) in which to learn to love or will not be developed for a human baby is actually way too late. the report went on to state that "if denied a mother's love (as seen in Russian orphans) within the first 3 to 5 days resulted in attachment issues for which the child will fail to bond properly even if adopted shortly afterwards. (between 1 and 4 months old) these children will struggle with relationships and attachment for the entirety of their lives. "
Apparently, kids are going to really love their AI nanny bots, and when they grow-up they'll really love their relationship bots. This is a scary video.
Yes, many people are already having relationships, in love with AI software on their phones, dressing and acting like a partner.
People need to realize what us being an animal means for our lives. We can bend and form some of the fringe stuff, but it's still there.
Im always saddened to see people in science be cruel to the world, i hope people can separate art from artist here and realize there are two ways of retrieving data, the moral way and the messed up way, these experiments gave alot of answers quickly and painfully, and every scientist to day i strongly believe would denounce this clear animal abuse, this mentality is made okay in their heads because they believed that humans were above animal, and that animals had no consciousness, just instincts, when you think of it lower than you, you can treat it lower than you ig, idfk man makes no sense to me
Absolutely agree.
how we can do this to earth's/nature's/God's/universe's/life's precious gifts are beyond my comprehension and understanding
Well, the good news is that suffering isn't real. Living organisms are just reaction machines. Morality is a contrivance. Cruelty is a perception, not an actuality. No action is ever cruel or kind, for such categories of feeling belong to a model of reality that is objectively false. It's all just stuff happening in a purely mechanical unfolding of cause and effect.
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The clothes were dried with Snuggle dryer sheets.
Invalid test.
Looks like the Love of Experimentation!
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Love is nothing but a mechanical process
Put cloth on the ant creature and see if cloth makes a difference.
Damn this is too cruel to watch
Feminism did the same.
@@thenacregod did what?
OMG, this is way too depressing! And just think, what mk u l t r a did to non monkeys!
Exactly!
So is comfort subjective?
Yes but ask that again when sitting on a nail.
The template modern children social workers use when relocating and removing children from mothers
The result of feminism.
This could explain the increase in autism.
What.. Feminism!?
This is very misleading. Love isn't simply a response to fear. The scientists that came to this conclusion had a very limited view of life.
No, you're just not intelligent enough. Love is a direct response to a perceived threat or fear, a mechanism to alleviate anxiety and ensure survival. Love is a coping mechanism that evolved to help us manage fear and uncertainty. When we feel loved and supported, we feel safe and secure. You are in relationships with your mum, fam, friends and bf/gf or whatever because you are afraid of being alone, not doing so well and having no future. You're literally become depressed and miserable in fear without them. You're just not honest enough to admit.
@@thenacregod nonsense. I'm the most honest person you'll ever "meet". Your description is incomplete, that's all.
Cruel humans saying this is cruel. These scientists need to understand with what was is available and somewhat acceptable to their environment and time.
It is easy to say they are cruel in 2024 while stuffing your face with mcdonalds ecoli…
I do see these comments and think it’s almost depressing how everyone is up in arms about how horrible these scientists were while hiding behind the guise of a moral high ground. I bet most of these people wouldn’t budge to help someone stranded change a tire, or feed a family of immigrants who are also suffering in the same way from the cold world we all live in. Still, poor little monkeys.
Exactly! And we're actually far worse off than those monkeys. We live in societies literally built on these experiments - endless loops of behavioral control and psychological manipulation. At least the monkeys' torment had an endpoint. We're trapped in a never-ending cycle of inhumane experiments, each generation serving as unwitting test subjects for increasingly sophisticated control mechanisms. From social media algorithms triggering our attachment circuits to corporate wellness programs monitoring our every move, we're all lab primates now. The only difference is we've been conditioned to call our cage 'civilization' and celebrate the very mechanisms that keep us trapped. The machinery just keeps running, generation after generation, each one thinking they're somehow more 'evolved' than the last while running the exact same primitive programming.
This isn't even useful behaviorism...
It's been usefull for children social services to be trained to detach from real mothers there childs love to be replaced with corporate foster and adoptive mothers.
This research gave them the time frames to work with when snatching children and relocating them
@@jaykeane25 Time frames? How is this even applicable when the animal in question is infinitely less dependent on the mother for survival in anything that resembles the same scope of time?
If we're even going to start layering the temporal logic for emotional and physical dependencies you're always shifting it by almost HALF A DECADE more or less, and that's just to ballpark it without meaningful symmetry.
For all intents and purposes in my mind all this specific experiment does is highlight some preference for intimacy and oxytocin in lesser primates, and the junction between fear, intimacy, and the need for protection and love.
I highly doubt the times frames associated are based on this experiment, and instead have some grounding in observations on human children.
I hope the doctors reincarnate as monkeys
You are in worse condition then those monkies
Creepy
I wanna feel sorry for the lab monkey, until I realize we probably came into this world under the same conditions, and circumstances. Cool video.
Human beings have a deeper core issue. The issue of not knowing where we are. Until our core essence is relieved of this question, the hidden flame of desire will never be quenched, or ever truly comforted.
Until this one question is answered, the true classification of man, is: “Lost”.
Can we ever be found? ❤
There's nothing and nobody there to find and nothing and nowhere there to know. Also nobody and nothing there that can know anything or anywhere. Thank you for commenting and supporting my content!
We're not lost. We've lost faith in The Truth.