That man is a classic full blown narcissist! It’s like listening to my daughter’s ex! Blame shifting, victim, triangulation, smear tactics, self-sacrificing, delusional, grandiose saint, twisted half-truths, denials, gaslighting, incessant lying, no accountability, entitlement, self-justifications, over dramatizing & no acknowledgement of the crime of bigamy he committed! Always with a long winded story/checklist of “she made me do it”! My daughter’s ex was just like this & also from Michigan! Same demon, different face! Lisa, you were lucky to get out when you did!
@@briellewalker5654 While in Jackson, Michigan, my daughter was being treated for fibromyalgia by a Christian doctor who had the ability to see demons. He said he was leaving the state because of the huge influx of demonic activity that he saw. She brought her boyfriend with her on one of her appointments and the doctor looked confused and asked who was he seeing in that appointment and inferred that there were MANY in the room! This only happened when her boyfriend came with her! I’m of the opinion that demonic oppression or possession is at play with narcissists!
I have watched a couple of your videos now and i really feel for you. And those letters made me very angry.. i understand how you feel but its in a weird way comforting knowing that im not the only one that has been going trough this, even though i do not wish this upon anyone else. I wish happiness for you in the future, i geniunly mean it.
Good Lord, Lisa...for what it's worth, your sharing has helped me put my situation in perspective. My story is just as nasty, but I find myself feeling tremendous empathy for your situation. Thank you for sharing
Its as though you know my story with my ex wife. So many lies. So many deceptions. Catching her cheating for 2 years with a friend was devastating. I have always been very strong as a person but this one kicked my butt pretty bad. This video is unbelievably accurate regarding the lies they tell and how looking back on it, the lies she told were her own. She believed them herself and justified her actions. She also told me she would not be nasty during the divorce...but then turned ugly when her boyfriend moved in. I've enjoyed hearing your videos. Thank you.
Thank you for this vid- it is clear that it is still hard for you to read the words in those letters... what they say is like a playbook- but how is it possible that they all independently come up with such similar BS? Is it how all brains work or is there a particular psychology that thinks a certain way, and can cheat, hence the similar justifications and deflections? My hubby had rewritten the history of our whole relationship in 2 mths since he met the other person... and I was all bad... he was unhappy for years (altho he out on a brilliant performance in the role of loving spouse and doting dad)... what really struck me is the level of seething resentment and grudge holding (about my alleged control and criticism- another classic hit from the cheaters’ playbook!) that he had never in almost 10 yrs mentioned to me... it really is quite scary that meeting ‘the one’ can change someone so much in such a short space of time...
My heart dropped along with my stomach... I felt this for u. I Kno how much tht shit hurts it's the worst I don't wish tht upon my worst enemy. Love is scary it can make u feel so good but can also make u feel the worst. U give them power over the soul when u love. Because this exactly where u feel it. But Never alone God is by your side just have to call upon him he will show u the light. God bless u keep your head up beautiful. His loss that p.o.s
Reading that letter had to be so difficult but I'm glad that you did. I'm sitting here feeling sorry for you when I'm going through some of the same things myself. I can't believe there aren't more views as I know it would help many if they find this video on UA-cam. Thank You and may God Bless!
Thank you SO much for sharing your letter. It shows me my ex isnt the only one who sees things from a SKEWED perspective !!!! It didnt have to be this way. We built a beautiful family and a beautiful life together but from my ex's brokenness, he didnt see it that way..
I think you are very courageous to make these videos so it can help you express your pain and emotions and also help many hurt spouses out there like us to know that we are not alone. Your video is powerful. Time will dull and ease the pain.
Lisa my name is Maggie (Grants soon to be ex wife) I have watched a few of your video's. The one I am responding too I haven't even finished watching but stopped and now am Texting you. You are BRAVE, COURAGEOUS, HONEST. MY HEART HURTS FOR YOU. THANK YOU LISA FOR FINDING THE STRENGTH TO REACH OTHER SOULS THROUGH YOUR PAIN. MAY GOD,JESUS AND THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND ALL YOUR ASSIGNED ANGELS BLESS AND PROTECT YOU.🙏💖🤗
I am just going through this. Three weeks ago I was crying on her couch because he yelled at me on the phone because I just wanted him to call me when he was working away. He lied about not having phone service and the whole time there was another girl. Which I didn't know yet. I was crying and asking her what I did so wrong. She was nice. Until he talked to her. Then she texted me "if it helps he wishes it didn't happen this way"....
I have seen a side of me that I never thought I'd see; a side where I felt visceral hatred for this man and no longer see his humanity and it scares me...I am not just saying this, but I know now that I had not actually, truly hated anyone before now...I've said it in anger, but I will never use the H word again and will never have to because I will NEVER let my guard down!
Wow. Powerful. This was hard to watch. Because it hits very close to home. You are very brave to be making these videos. I can only imagine how many women you are able to help with your testimony. I know that it has helped this man. Thanks.
15:54 omg, your ex is a pathetic liar. You're a strong woman and admire you. I'm just listening to you and it's making me stronger. I'm currently going through the same situation. God bless you 🙏
It's interesting coming back to this three years later. There's so much I could say about this letter he wrote, but if I were to sum it up into one statement, it's this: It doesn't matter. Everything he did and how merciless and maybe even psycopathic he was towards you tells you volumes more than this letter ever will. It's why I don't trust what people say but instead look at what they do. That's where I've landed after all of this.
The parallels are shocking. My husband also left for happiness he apparently didn't have with me. But the big issue was that he was saying how much he loved and missed me just weeks earlier. He blamed his actions on everything else. I was in the middle of putting in my two week notice to go work with him like we planned. Then I chased him across the state to talk and try to figure out why he suddenly changed. He wanted time to think about if he wanted to be with me so I couldn't go to him. Then I found out the coward had already started a relationship with someone else. Funny right? He never mentioned any of these things to me. And he never mentioned her. I found that out the hard way. Bingo. So that's why he changed out of nowhere..
I'd imagine by this time you are a lot better at this time but I feel for you. It's a terrible terrible thing. I was just told a month and a half ago by my wife that she had an affair. I'm still getting over the obsessive phase but it's getting better. Hers was emotional and blamed her insecurities from her high school days with this one guy that always had a hold on her. 20+ years later she found herself in the same spot and acted on it. They didn't have sex but it still doesn't reduce the hurt. She cut ties soon after and 10 months later finally told me. She's doing nothing but self shaming and crying and tells me she doesn't know what happened and that I deserve better but I tell her that "yes i deserve better but I want to give you a chance to give me that better from you. Not from anyone else given we have 15 years and kids together and a whole lot of crazy memories." It's like she was in a whole different mind set and couldn't control it from what she says. I told her we can work it out and we are on a good path, especially considering she still loves me and I never felt that love leave in my heart or hers in those months that passed until she told me. That's what keeps me going and willing. I appreciate every ounce of effort she has been giving towards me and showing me she really wants this daily. I can appreciate that while still holding her accountable and telling it like it is....."She had an affair." Let's face it and call it what it is right? At this point she needs to make those changes to her insecurities that can control her decisions and she's been seeing a therapist. Our communication and affection have been more than before and great since but I need consistency and permanent change and her to regain my trust through her actions. I hope for the best and I'm going to keep on fighting as well as her from what she tells me. I hope the best for you and your future Lisa. You seem like a great loving person who deserves the best out of a significant other.
The problem with her was she never talked to me Sat down and discussed anything just cheated on me stole money And turned into a monster I never thought I would ever see She lied to me I asked her u seeing someone I got he's only a friend Then I kept asking which I got yes no yes no funny that there's a photo of the prick on yr phone you not here at night coward Then she said he's got more qualfications than both us ever have in life So that makes him a better person This life has to much pain in it
Sorry you had to go through that. Just found out a 5 mo ago my wife had been keeping in touch with her ex husband for years. The half truths and all her thinking this makes it sound better etc. The “nothing happened” we were just friends turned into we cheated a couple times but it’d been over months ago to it really went on a yr and a half to over two yrs and was actively going on when I caught her. Then found out from his wife she’d reached out to him on social media 9 yrs ago and they’d gone to lunch. His wife found out threatened to divorce him. Went back to another state n he left to go with her n their kids. At this point I’ve just told myself with all the half truths etc she probably cheated 9 yrs ago and then again with him off and on more recently when we built a new house in same county he and his wife lived. Idk that. We are trying to work through this but not going to lie. Idk if I will ever trust her again.
I put up with my ex wife yelling and screaming at me and putting me down for 8 years. She told me every day all her ex boyfriends were better than me. She told me everyday how happy she was before she met me. My ex wife refused to get a job even after I put her through school to get her masters degree. She constantly kept telling me to get a second job and make more money while she was spending $800 a day at the mall on expensive shoes and purses. She wanted me to hire a maid to clean the house. Cook and do the laundry because she was to lazy but I refused. We taught everyday and every night for years. I would purposely work late and not get home until after 11 pm just because I was hoping she would be asleep and we wouldn’t fight that night. After all the stress and anxiety I felt like I was going to have a heart attack so I decided I need to change my life. It was either her or me so I decided to go find someone else I cheated on her. I didn’t feel good about it but I wasn’t getting any love or respect at home and my feelings for her at that point where gone any way. So my ex wife finally decided she wanted a divorce and left the house.
I know this is old but I am going through this while I have illnesses you got a letter I got thst I am crazy!!!! I got hate when I confront him!!!! And the worst thing he is the one thst I depended on to take me too my doctors appointment I feel defeated and hurt like hell I am in rage but I am listening and trying to heal this is the second time this happen to me and you know what sad his right lungs had collapse I was a wreck I took care of him instead of him going to rehabilitation I wiped his ass I help him pee I help him walk and when I said all this he told me fuck me he got a new lungs i trying hard hard hard!!! I can't never forgive because of my illnesses I am in a rage
Curtis Ritchey I'm going through this right now. My wife out the blue wanted a divorce after 28 years married. I've had a gut feeling for ages she is seeing someone. Now I am sure. But she swore on our kids lives. Yet she lies and I've caught her out lying many times and even then when there's proof she is in denial. It is enough to drive you insane so I feel for you
You are so beautiful and he is missing out on a wonderful woman. He's a coward and a narcissist. The grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence.
She always used that against me how we met actually if she could find anything she would use it against me X girlfriends My health that she caused my sickness She really screwed my head up big time like no other human I've ever known
I'm back bloody adds pissing me of Her mother ran up $240 water bills Nearly burnt down the unit with a perfectly working vacuum cleaner it melted To many issues Just want to say I don't think having a mother living with u is healthy to much stress and problems
you are beautiful how did he cheated you, my wife cheated me for a black guy i still dont know what she loved in him but it crushes me entirely whenever trigger appears
That man is a classic full blown narcissist! It’s like listening to my daughter’s ex! Blame shifting, victim, triangulation, smear tactics, self-sacrificing, delusional, grandiose saint, twisted half-truths, denials, gaslighting, incessant lying, no accountability, entitlement, self-justifications, over dramatizing & no acknowledgement of the crime of bigamy he committed! Always with a long winded story/checklist of “she made me do it”! My daughter’s ex was just like this & also from Michigan! Same demon, different face! Lisa, you were lucky to get out when you did!
My narcissist is also from Michigan. Funny
@@briellewalker5654 While in Jackson, Michigan, my daughter was being treated for fibromyalgia by a Christian doctor who had the ability to see demons. He said he was leaving the state because of the huge influx of demonic activity that he saw. She brought her boyfriend with her on one of her appointments and the doctor looked confused and asked who was he seeing in that appointment and inferred that there were MANY in the room! This only happened when her boyfriend came with her! I’m of the opinion that demonic oppression or possession is at play with narcissists!
I have watched a couple of your videos now and i really feel for you. And those letters made me very angry.. i understand how you feel but its in a weird way comforting knowing that im not the only one that has been going trough this, even though i do not wish this upon anyone else. I wish happiness for you in the future, i geniunly mean it.
You are such a braveheart! Thanks for sharing. I’m sorry this happened to you. You help many people by sharing all this.
Good Lord, Lisa...for what it's worth, your sharing has helped me put my situation in perspective. My story is just as nasty, but I find myself feeling tremendous empathy for your situation. Thank you for sharing
You overcame. Sorry for your pain. But if you never had been through it, many of us here wouldn't have received as we have. Thank you so much!!!
Its as though you know my story with my ex wife. So many lies. So many deceptions. Catching her cheating for 2 years with a friend was devastating. I have always been very strong as a person but this one kicked my butt pretty bad. This video is unbelievably accurate regarding the lies they tell and how looking back on it, the lies she told were her own. She believed them herself and justified her actions. She also told me she would not be nasty during the divorce...but then turned ugly when her boyfriend moved in. I've enjoyed hearing your videos. Thank you.
Thank you for this vid- it is clear that it is still hard for you to read the words in those letters... what they say is like a playbook- but how is it possible that they all independently come up with such similar BS? Is it how all brains work or is there a particular psychology that thinks a certain way, and can cheat, hence the similar justifications and deflections? My hubby had rewritten the history of our whole relationship in 2 mths since he met the other person... and I was all bad... he was unhappy for years (altho he out on a brilliant performance in the role of loving spouse and doting dad)... what really struck me is the level of seething resentment and grudge holding (about my alleged control and criticism- another classic hit from the cheaters’ playbook!) that he had never in almost 10 yrs mentioned to me... it really is quite scary that meeting ‘the one’ can change someone so much in such a short space of time...
I can relate to your story in a number of aspects. You're a brave woman. They write history so well to support their cheating.
Wow. The "Woe is me." he tried to deal out is amazing. The gaslighting of it all. Unreal.
My heart dropped along with my stomach... I felt this for u. I Kno how much tht shit hurts it's the worst I don't wish tht upon my worst enemy. Love is scary it can make u feel so good but can also make u feel the worst. U give them power over the soul when u love. Because this exactly where u feel it. But Never alone God is by your side just have to call upon him he will show u the light. God bless u keep your head up beautiful. His loss that p.o.s
Reading that letter had to be so difficult but I'm glad that you did. I'm sitting here feeling sorry for you when I'm going through some of the same things myself. I can't believe there aren't more views as I know it would help many if they find this video on UA-cam. Thank You and may God Bless!
That guy should have just say that he wants to break up with you, like a GROWN UP person. BUT ... well. I've been through similarily bad stuff.
Thank you SO much for sharing your letter. It shows me my ex isnt the only one who sees things from a SKEWED perspective !!!! It didnt have to be this way. We built a beautiful family and a beautiful life together but from my ex's brokenness, he didnt see it that way..
I think you are very courageous to make these videos so it can help you express your pain and emotions and also help many hurt spouses out there like us to know that we are not alone. Your video is powerful. Time will dull and ease the pain.
Thank you for being brave & selfless in sharing your story! I wish you only happiness & blessings in your life 🙏🏻
Here is his problem....he never discussed any if this with you. Not your problem. All his. Maybe he should have taken a course in communication.
What a difficult situation you went through.
Please look after yourself and become a little stronger each day.xx
Lisa my name is Maggie (Grants soon to be ex wife) I have watched a few of your video's. The one I am responding too I haven't even finished watching but stopped and now am Texting you. You are BRAVE, COURAGEOUS, HONEST. MY HEART HURTS FOR YOU. THANK YOU LISA FOR FINDING THE STRENGTH TO REACH OTHER SOULS THROUGH YOUR PAIN. MAY GOD,JESUS AND THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND ALL YOUR ASSIGNED ANGELS BLESS AND PROTECT YOU.🙏💖🤗
I talked to my MIL about it and she didn't have anything to say about her son's behavior. She wanted to know what I had done.
You too?
I am just going through this. Three weeks ago I was crying on her couch because he yelled at me on the phone because I just wanted him to call me when he was working away. He lied about not having phone service and the whole time there was another girl. Which I didn't know yet. I was crying and asking her what I did so wrong. She was nice. Until he talked to her. Then she texted me "if it helps he wishes it didn't happen this way"....
I have seen a side of me that I never thought I'd see; a side where I felt visceral hatred for this man and no longer see his humanity and it scares me...I am not just saying this, but I know now that I had not actually, truly hated anyone before now...I've said it in anger, but I will never use the H word again and will never have to because I will NEVER let my guard down!
Wow.
Powerful.
This was hard to watch. Because it hits very close to home. You are very brave to be making these videos.
I can only imagine how many women you are able to help with your testimony.
I know that it has helped this man.
Thanks.
15:54 omg, your ex is a pathetic liar. You're a strong woman and admire you. I'm just listening to you and it's making me stronger. I'm currently going through the same situation. God bless you 🙏
Just found your site - I wish I could give you a hug. You are so brave.
So insightful…so deep…so vulnerable…and so true. Great question to end on.
It's interesting coming back to this three years later. There's so much I could say about this letter he wrote, but if I were to sum it up into one statement, it's this: It doesn't matter. Everything he did and how merciless and maybe even psycopathic he was towards you tells you volumes more than this letter ever will. It's why I don't trust what people say but instead look at what they do. That's where I've landed after all of this.
Good place to land :)
The parallels are shocking. My husband also left for happiness he apparently didn't have with me. But the big issue was that he was saying how much he loved and missed me just weeks earlier. He blamed his actions on everything else. I was in the middle of putting in my two week notice to go work with him like we planned. Then I chased him across the state to talk and try to figure out why he suddenly changed. He wanted time to think about if he wanted to be with me so I couldn't go to him. Then I found out the coward had already started a relationship with someone else. Funny right? He never mentioned any of these things to me. And he never mentioned her. I found that out the hard way. Bingo. So that's why he changed out of nowhere..
the only truth he said is that he's a COWARD! but i'm pretty sure he thinks that he's not and that he's lying.
So much pain still in your voice...
Screw that guy he's a darn fool your very brave and your beautiful 😍
Oh dear I wish we could talk , I had a mental breakdown when mine came out , it’s just so sad and that s how I feel sad. It blew my whole family apart
He’s a classic narcissist
True
Thank you for posting this
I'd imagine by this time you are a lot better at this time but I feel for you. It's a terrible terrible thing. I was just told a month and a half ago by my wife that she had an affair. I'm still getting over the obsessive phase but it's getting better. Hers was emotional and blamed her insecurities from her high school days with this one guy that always had a hold on her. 20+ years later she found herself in the same spot and acted on it. They didn't have sex but it still doesn't reduce the hurt. She cut ties soon after and 10 months later finally told me. She's doing nothing but self shaming and crying and tells me she doesn't know what happened and that I deserve better but I tell her that "yes i deserve better but I want to give you a chance to give me that better from you. Not from anyone else given we have 15 years and kids together and a whole lot of crazy memories." It's like she was in a whole different mind set and couldn't control it from what she says. I told her we can work it out and we are on a good path, especially considering she still loves me and I never felt that love leave in my heart or hers in those months that passed until she told me. That's what keeps me going and willing. I appreciate every ounce of effort she has been giving towards me and showing me she really wants this daily. I can appreciate that while still holding her accountable and telling it like it is....."She had an affair." Let's face it and call it what it is right? At this point she needs to make those changes to her insecurities that can control her decisions and she's been seeing a therapist. Our communication and affection have been more than before and great since but I need consistency and permanent change and her to regain my trust through her actions. I hope for the best and I'm going to keep on fighting as well as her from what she tells me. I hope the best for you and your future Lisa. You seem like a great loving person who deserves the best out of a significant other.
The problem with her was she never talked to me Sat down and discussed anything just cheated on me stole money
And turned into a monster I never thought I would ever see
She lied to me I asked her u seeing someone I got he's only a friend
Then I kept asking which I got yes no yes no funny that there's a photo of the prick on yr phone you not here at night coward
Then she said he's got more qualfications than both us ever have in life
So that makes him a better person
This life has to much pain in it
I'm so sorry for you. Not many things in life hurt more.
My God, I cant listen to this in one sitting.
Lisa uses a jumbo size mug to drink from. I love jumbo size mugs.
HUGS LISA!!!!!!
I hope you have healed since this. If a person doesn't want you; it is what it is. No one is perfect and you don't "own " anyone. ever.
Thank you for this !!
Sorry you had to go through that. Just found out a 5 mo ago my wife had been keeping in touch with her ex husband for years. The half truths and all her thinking this makes it sound better etc. The “nothing happened” we were just friends turned into we cheated a couple times but it’d been over months ago to it really went on a yr and a half to over two yrs and was actively going on when I caught her. Then found out from his wife she’d reached out to him on social media 9 yrs ago and they’d gone to lunch. His wife found out threatened to divorce him. Went back to another state n he left to go with her n their kids. At this point I’ve just told myself with all the half truths etc she probably cheated 9 yrs ago and then again with him off and on more recently when we built a new house in same county he and his wife lived. Idk that. We are trying to work through this but not going to lie. Idk if I will ever trust her again.
I put up with my ex wife yelling and screaming at me and putting me down for 8 years. She told me every day all her ex boyfriends were better than me. She told me everyday how happy she was before she met me. My ex wife refused to get a job even after I put her through school to get her masters degree. She constantly kept telling me to get a second job and make more money while she was spending $800 a day at the mall on expensive shoes and purses. She wanted me to hire a maid to clean the house. Cook and do the laundry because she was to lazy but I refused. We taught everyday and every night for years. I would purposely work late and not get home until after 11 pm just because I was hoping she would be asleep and we wouldn’t fight that night. After all the stress and anxiety I felt like I was going to have a heart attack so I decided I need to change my life. It was either her or me so I decided to go find someone else I cheated on her. I didn’t feel good about it but I wasn’t getting any love or respect at home and my feelings for her at that point where gone any way. So my ex wife finally decided she wanted a divorce and left the house.
I feel your pain....
Fuck I thought my letter was bad , what a prick.
You are an inspiration.
My wife swore on my daughter life that she had nothing for him.
thank u for sharing this
Why woman always cheated in the relationship what she wants more...??
I know this is old but I am going through this while I have illnesses you got a letter I got thst I am crazy!!!! I got hate when I confront him!!!! And the worst thing he is the one thst I depended on to take me too my doctors appointment I feel defeated and hurt like hell I am in rage but I am listening and trying to heal this is the second time this happen to me and you know what sad his right lungs had collapse I was a wreck I took care of him instead of him going to rehabilitation I wiped his ass I help him pee I help him walk and when I said all this he told me fuck me he got a new lungs i trying hard hard hard!!! I can't never forgive because of my illnesses I am in a rage
I feel you Lisa💕
My wife swore on my daughter life that she had nothing for him. There living together
Curtis Ritchey I'm going through this right now. My wife out the blue wanted a divorce after 28 years married. I've had a gut feeling for ages she is seeing someone. Now I am sure. But she swore on our kids lives. Yet she lies and I've caught her out lying many times and even then when there's proof she is in denial. It is enough to drive you insane so I feel for you
How long had it been for you I’m 3+ months in and doing good for the most part
I'm very sorry he sounds to be a covert narcissistic
You are so beautiful and he is missing out on a wonderful woman. He's a coward and a narcissist. The grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence.
Yes been with narc from 19 years
Omg he lied about sleeping in separate rooms?? What a jerk. Thats a lie he told Amanda, i bet. Jerk.
She always used that against me how we met actually if she could find anything she would use it against me
X girlfriends
My health that she caused my sickness
She really screwed my head up big time like no other human I've ever known
I'm back bloody adds pissing me of
Her mother ran up $240 water bills
Nearly burnt down the unit with a perfectly working vacuum cleaner it melted
To many issues
Just want to say I don't think having a mother living with u is healthy to much stress and problems
you are beautiful how did he cheated you, my wife cheated me for a black guy i still dont know what she loved in him but it crushes me entirely whenever trigger appears
Can I give you a hug?
You are so beautiful. U got this!!
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