UPDATE - it looks like if you don’t hard counter A/T it’s still doing quite well. I’m going to do another round of testing this coming week exploring this. My suspicion is that while all the other commanders last multiple seasons, Attila is good for one before other rally combos replace him
Really? Is your opponent using constantine richard garrison to emulate what you would see in top-end ark of osiris? Our anti atilla-takeda defense is working.
@@Chisgule I'm in Season 3 new KVK map, so our kingdom age is lagging behind a little. I've been fighting all sorts of combinations of Constantine/Charles/Rich/YSG/Wu. My A/T counter rally also really shines since they've been using a lot of archer rallies. Our A/T counters are ready to go if/when they ever start to hit us with it. We lost the last qualifying match for Ark league, but we're still fairly competitive. We're about to go in Ark today, so it'll be interesting to see how that goes against lesser opponents. I'm sure Ark league preps much better.
Finally this video came!!! I'm look forward to this very long time! Thanks chisgule, finally! I'm so surprised when Khan is number 2 cause when I had heard about others, they said Khan is a very strong commander in cavalry. What a shock news chisgule 💪👍this video are so good! Thanks, Chis
@@kaelren4120 he can tank well and is good in open field fights ... The reason he is not being used as really leaders is because of his inability to plunder resources
Can you make a video going into detail about what your current 5 Cavalry marches look like and how you would alter the pairings for Mid/High and then Low/F2P players? Thanks in advance!!
Hey Chisgule: as a lower to moderate spender, my biggest holdback are gold stars: so how would you recommend prioritizing epic primaries with legendary second? Looking to mix march pairings (infantry, cavalry, archers) Thank you for everything you do! (This is a suggestion not a critique)
Hi chisgule, what do you think is the best Legendary / Epic commander in the game in terms of utility for f2p. I agree, khan is second, because f2p cannot win in damage against p2w (in terms of technology and possibly gears)
Hi, Chisgule? Something just occurred to me - Maybe those alliance techs were being launched to make room for alliance donations in the following days? I, myself, have been stuck with 20 chances for 5 days because the leader won't go through a regular cycle to allow for regular donations. :( Can you talk to him? Hahaha. (...)
Chisgule you said your using Khan and Takeda and their great ? I'm close to maxing my khan and I'm torn between Saladin and takeda next as a secondary to Khan , considering I can only get them to 5551 , which do you think is better SALADIN or TAKEDA ?
NIIIICCCCEEEEEE....CAVALRIEEEESSSSS...I VERY LOVE CAVALRIES PARINGS....THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO...I LEARNED MORE ON COMMNADERS....CAN I HAVE AN REQUEST....CAN YOU FEATURE LEGENDARY AND EPIC LEADERSHIP COMMANDER AND THEIR SPECIALITY , PAIRINGS , AND RANKINGS TO THE MOST BEST
One thing you could have emphasized more was the level of difficulty to expertise the top two or all of them really. Khan is on the wheel where Saladin is MGE reward. F2P going to be hard to get Saladin.
Hi chis great video! I'm an infantry player. I only have Mina Cao as maxed cav. Supposing I Want to invest on 1 of cav commander. Who should I chose in your opinion?
I just think. Saladin pair with Takeda is the best pair for open field. Maybe a lot of player will say no.(with GK) still the best. But saladin pairing with takeda seems like semi-inf. Has a lot of tankynes skill. While saladin gk. Does a lotnof damage. But still can melt down if got target firing
My Khan is at 5-5-3-3 and I've stopped there, since now I'm working on Alexander (will go for full expertize). I believe Khan > Saladin, just because of how easier is to work on Khan. I have Saladin's first skill at 2 just from MGE (went ham at first Saladin MGE and stopped). It's hard to get him to high skill unless you are a big spender.
My Cav Tier List No.1 Guan Yu/Alex (45% marc spd + 100% after leave structure = cav on foot) No.2 Alex/Martel (insane 50% spd but 1st skills don't pair well) No.3 Khan (the strongest cav IMO) No.4 Minamoto (Not very strong in pvp but the cheapest) No.5 Saldin (almost reach his full potential for 5551 only, but almost unobtainable except in card king) No.6 Takeda (very versatile, can pair with all cav commanders) No.7 Attila (latest = better) No.8 Cao (daily packs are expansive and 2rd skill is for barbs so you need 5151 as a start)
Pleaseeeeeee redo this video for a 2021 update. A/T was definitely not nerffed that bad. They’re still freakin CHOICE for rallying down cities. People 100% want to know your top cav leg/leg pairings
Man I didnt know it was that bad with the Nerf...that's awful. Can you go over what they did to compensate players? Also, go over how else you can use Takeda now that Atilla has been smacked to Leg-epic-ary status.
So apparently people still haven’t doubled down on an infantry counter - people are reporting still getting positive trades against those who aren’t appropriately using infantry garrison to counter it.
@@Chisgule Very interesting. I did see a few reports from a kvk that looked good for A/T rallies, but circumstances weren't clear if it was being swarmed or not. Still disappointing they nerfed at all considering there were hard counters to it before the Nerf bat was swung. I know the hard counters before required precision on the part of the defender, but isn't that what makes ROK different (better) from so many other mobile MMO war games? Oh well, what's done is done. It will still come down to who makes less mistakes is the side that ends up on top, so I'm still happy playing and spending LOL
I keep swaying on who to use as Primary. Cao or Pela. I have three battles coming up for KE. And I need to win against those boys :D :D :D Pela Lvel51 skills maxed while Cao Cao L44 and skills are all over the place :( I do love how fast Cao moves haha
Chis.. Attila/Takeda is still in our kvk the most strong rally duo. Probably for an endgame alliance or for osiris league aint what he was back then but still for the rest of the mortals is the best rally leader (with Takeda)
Hey Chisgule, we found rolling with a belisarius secondary to Atilla was decent, obviously beli is no takeda but he does have the extra tankiness and the skill to reduce defense of targets.
Your kingdom has to have a certain amount of days to get those commanders. I think they did have a time where all commanders were available but they changed it
@@Chisgule is there anything you don't like about it? Maybe there are better legendary pairings? I'm in a newer kingdom and I'm saving for Khan when he comes out and I have Mina expertised
Ohh. Yeah I mean if people use the wrong combo they will still get wrecked. I find myself surprised that with all this time and exposure to what atilla takeda will do unchecked that no one in the opposing kingdom expertised Constantine.
UPDATE - it looks like if you don’t hard counter A/T it’s still doing quite well. I’m going to do another round of testing this coming week exploring this. My suspicion is that while all the other commanders last multiple seasons, Attila is good for one before other rally combos replace him
Chis pls make video about inf calv and archer pairing for hitting cities if you has battle report will be great content
What if u pair Saladin With Khan
Hello can you give me acc like 30m pls i know you have so many acc
@@neixymyer2719 bruh you asking for a account probably a noob
I'm still getting positive trades on every single rally I run with A/T.
Really? Is your opponent using constantine richard garrison to emulate what you would see in top-end ark of osiris? Our anti atilla-takeda defense is working.
i think everything depends on the field presence around them..... attacker or defender....
@@Chisgule I'm in Season 3 new KVK map, so our kingdom age is lagging behind a little. I've been fighting all sorts of combinations of Constantine/Charles/Rich/YSG/Wu. My A/T counter rally also really shines since they've been using a lot of archer rallies. Our A/T counters are ready to go if/when they ever start to hit us with it.
We lost the last qualifying match for Ark league, but we're still fairly competitive. We're about to go in Ark today, so it'll be interesting to see how that goes against lesser opponents. I'm sure Ark league preps much better.
@@cosmin6021 I've been swarmed, not swarmed, countered with all sorts of rallies and each report is still juicy.
Atila taked lose againts saladin takeda in garrison
August 2020 Attila is still pretty OP in rallies.
"chisgule not happy about his attila anymore" :(
I am using Saladin Takeda and they are giving really good results on field and also for rallies.
Hi Chisgule, would love to see a couple of similar videos but for the inf commanders!
Finally this video came!!! I'm look forward to this very long time! Thanks chisgule, finally! I'm so surprised when Khan is number 2 cause when I had heard about others, they said Khan is a very strong commander in cavalry. What a shock news chisgule 💪👍this video are so good! Thanks, Chis
Thanks was trying to decide on which cavalry commander to focus on
I am a big fan of Saladin
I'm in love with him 🤪
@@iamthanos7301 I really have my greatest respect and honour for Chisgule.. he is awesome..
I'm working on him since I expertised A/T right before the nerf. Need someone to primary with Takeda.
is he good? mann i just maxed him but everyone using him as support march and dont use him as rally leader :(
@@kaelren4120 he can tank well and is good in open field fights ... The reason he is not being used as really leaders is because of his inability to plunder resources
PLEASE HELP! Answer this question: What happens to rage requirement when Khan is secondary?? Its base 950 requirement will be counted or not?
Chisgule has heard and has spoken! Thanks chisgule for taking the time to cater to f2p who can only expertise one legendary in a long time
Rewatching another great video for the survey! Loved the ending lol.
Ok so whats the best one for Cavarly Attack and Cavarly Defense and Cavarly Speed atleast having Cavarly attack or Cavarly Defense
Can you make a video going into detail about what your current 5 Cavalry marches look like and how you would alter the pairings for Mid/High and then Low/F2P players? Thanks in advance!!
I think it's about time we see a new legendary commander with the name Chisgule in RoK :) Great vid bro, thank you ;)
Important question , saladin pela or saladin ysg? , my sala is 5551 and ysg is 5511
yeah but i could get saladin only with mge, right?
Hey Chisgule: as a lower to moderate spender, my biggest holdback are gold stars: so how would you recommend prioritizing epic primaries with legendary second? Looking to mix march pairings (infantry, cavalry, archers)
Thank you for everything you do! (This is a suggestion not a critique)
Hi chisgule, what do you think is the best Legendary / Epic commander in the game in terms of utility for f2p. I agree, khan is second, because f2p cannot win in damage against p2w (in terms of technology and possibly gears)
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Hi, Chisgule? Something just occurred to me - Maybe those alliance techs were being launched to make room for alliance donations in the following days? I, myself, have been stuck with 20 chances for 5 days because the leader won't go through a regular cycle to allow for regular donations. :(
Can you talk to him? Hahaha.
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Chisgule you said your using Khan and Takeda and their great ? I'm close to maxing my khan and I'm torn between Saladin and takeda next as a secondary to Khan , considering I can only get them to 5551 , which do you think is better SALADIN or TAKEDA ?
Go with saladin. Him and khan are really good together.
The video I was waiting for !! 😌🤗
Which is better an expertised minamoto or a 5511 Khan? I am talking about for PVP purposes. Thanks a lot for your replies :D
NIIIICCCCEEEEEE....CAVALRIEEEESSSSS...I VERY LOVE CAVALRIES PARINGS....THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO...I LEARNED MORE ON COMMNADERS....CAN I HAVE AN REQUEST....CAN YOU FEATURE LEGENDARY AND EPIC LEADERSHIP COMMANDER AND THEIR SPECIALITY , PAIRINGS , AND RANKINGS TO THE MOST BEST
I have jankis khan max, what you advise me to max Salah eddine or takida as secondary comendres?
Chisgule , after KvK season 5, will this order change. Should I invest in Saladin, or wait for Attila + Takeda?
It was a really good video, but I was wondering what the #1 cavalry pair is in your opinion for open field...
Hey. Which combo you think is better in sunset canyon on the backline: mina/cc, mina/baib or pela/cc? Thx
Thank you chisgule.. you are the best ..... Great contents just love it ... I am a big fan of you ...
Sorry, but my Lancelot is stronger.
Lol 😂
Im already have lancelot with an expertise
You say this cause you haven't met my Dragon Lancer yet
Ladies please, my markswoman is better
It was me who asked saladin vs khan and aethel and mehmed combo.thanks for helping me.
Sooo what’s a better cav duo for open field fights in kvk??? Kahn+Saladin or Kahn+Takeda???
Saladin debuff is crucial. Takeda is more tanky. I think Saladin gives better utility
@@Chisgule thats what i was thinking man thank you!!!
Khan 5511 is good yo use in open field for new kingdom ?
yes
pelagius vs belisarious? who is best primary for f2p? 2nd commander will be minamoto or saladin
Both good for different reasons. Pela for sustain and rage, beli for mobility
BUT, what if i pair khan and richard with full cavs. will he still going to be a glass canyon?
can Khan's expertise pop if he is 2nd? like a Saladin/Khan?
Do you think saladin will be a good counter to the new archer commanders
Nice content I ever seen keep going 😍🤜
Great video. Thank you. 👍
Rogue assassin?😱 LVIW
YOU ARE THE BEST CHIS! THANK YOU
Great video a lot more useful than yesterday’s video given my power 👍. Also what would u say the best rally pair is given Attilas destruction
Very useful video like!!
How about khan and saladin together? I want to know if its great pairing.
They’re solid yes
@@Chisgule Hey Chis, I have a question, wondering who I can pair with Khan, who is the best pair do you think, either Saladin or Takeda ?
One thing you could have emphasized more was the level of difficulty to expertise the top two or all of them really. Khan is on the wheel where Saladin is MGE reward. F2P going to be hard to get Saladin.
William Bowley u can get Saladin from card king
Chisgul did you tested Saladin with Aeth? Saladin is slowing down and Aeth has 20% extra damage on slowed targets...
Nice!
Nice video chisgule
Saladin finally arrived in my kd so thanks!
I look at my Legendary comms and then look at Chisgules...I just want to cry 😂
🤣
Hi chis great video! I'm an infantry player. I only have Mina Cao as maxed cav. Supposing I Want to invest on 1 of cav commander. Who should I chose in your opinion?
what about saladin with scipio? wouldnt that be super tanky ?
I just think. Saladin pair with Takeda is the best pair for open field. Maybe a lot of player will say no.(with GK) still the best. But saladin pairing with takeda seems like semi-inf.
Has a lot of tankynes skill.
While saladin gk. Does a lotnof damage. But still can melt down if got target firing
Can you do one but epic as the primary and then legendary 2nd for f2p
My Khan is at 5-5-3-3 and I've stopped there, since now I'm working on Alexander (will go for full expertize). I believe Khan > Saladin, just because of how easier is to work on Khan. I have Saladin's first skill at 2 just from MGE (went ham at first Saladin MGE and stopped). It's hard to get him to high skill unless you are a big spender.
My Cav Tier List
No.1 Guan Yu/Alex (45% marc spd + 100% after leave structure = cav on foot)
No.2 Alex/Martel (insane 50% spd but 1st skills don't pair well)
No.3 Khan (the strongest cav IMO)
No.4 Minamoto (Not very strong in pvp but the cheapest)
No.5 Saldin (almost reach his full potential for 5551 only, but almost unobtainable except in card king)
No.6 Takeda (very versatile, can pair with all cav commanders)
No.7 Attila (latest = better)
No.8 Cao (daily packs are expansive and 2rd skill is for barbs so you need 5151 as a start)
A bro can u give some advice on the equipment forging . Don’t understand the concept
Check out my ultimate equipment guide : )
Chisgule Gaming thanks fam
What does glass canyon mean?
I've got both Saladin and Khan at 5-5-5-1!!!!
What would you say is a weekly spending limit to be considered a "low spender" player?
Let’s say < $25 /month
I think dragon lancer is the best cavalary commander. xD
Thank you Chisgule
Minamoto = Money Moto 🤣
Hahaha I accept on this word
Money Moto and Moneybal Barca
You can only purchase minamoto? Am I correct?
You can also buy the daily special offer which has a commander that changes based on whether or not you have the commander expertised
is possible one test? saladin/attila ws alex/richard. please
Pleaseeeeeee redo this video for a 2021 update. A/T was definitely not nerffed that bad. They’re still freakin CHOICE for rallying down cities. People 100% want to know your top cav leg/leg pairings
would you do one of these for infantry pairs?
😉 soon
Man I didnt know it was that bad with the Nerf...that's awful. Can you go over what they did to compensate players? Also, go over how else you can use Takeda now that Atilla has been smacked to Leg-epic-ary status.
So apparently people still haven’t doubled down on an infantry counter - people are reporting still getting positive trades against those who aren’t appropriately using infantry garrison to counter it.
@@Chisgule Very interesting. I did see a few reports from a kvk that looked good for A/T rallies, but circumstances weren't clear if it was being swarmed or not. Still disappointing they nerfed at all considering there were hard counters to it before the Nerf bat was swung. I know the hard counters before required precision on the part of the defender, but isn't that what makes ROK different (better) from so many other mobile MMO war games? Oh well, what's done is done. It will still come down to who makes less mistakes is the side that ends up on top, so I'm still happy playing and spending LOL
can somebody tell me what happened since Most of VYRGRIN left the kingdom?
I mean, you could still do a 5511 khan and pair him up with saladin.
What about saladin + cao cao?
good
Great. We need more epic videos😊
I keep swaying on who to use as Primary. Cao or Pela. I have three battles coming up for KE. And I need to win against those boys :D :D :D Pela Lvel51 skills maxed while Cao Cao L44 and skills are all over the place :( I do love how fast Cao moves haha
Chigsule wich combo is better hermann/ el Cid or hermann/YSG?
Ysg
YSG on a Landslide. They need to buff El Cid..
Chis.. Attila/Takeda is still in our kvk the most strong rally duo. Probably for an endgame alliance or for osiris league aint what he was back then but still for the rest of the mortals is the best rally leader (with Takeda)
I’m confused. Why is your opponent not just defending with Constantine and Richard?
Chisgule Gaming they did in some but still we outplayed them. Probably wrong talent tree? Or more t5 from our side? But we beat them.
Hey Chisgule, we found rolling with a belisarius secondary to Atilla was decent, obviously beli is no takeda but he does have the extra tankiness and the skill to reduce defense of targets.
Im confused. Didnt you make a video a while back saying Khan isnt that great?
What about khan as secondry to saladin
It’s good. More tanky.
Is it just me or did they get rid of many commanders. I am new, and many of the commanders you have are not shows on the “not unlocked” list
Your kingdom has to have a certain amount of days to get those commanders. I think they did have a time where all commanders were available but they changed it
Attila still great in rally
How come your CC troop capacity is 210k but mine is 200k and yes he is level 60 and he is expertised
VIP
guide for f2p players in competing in mightiest governor because you can only get saladin on it.
Card king. Wait for a few weeks. Lilith throw all the old commanders there
minamoto plus sun tzu is it good?
Yes
Can You make the Best Epic Infantry pairing?
I always thought it was pronounced Kao Kao
Can atila gp with cc
Ghengis khan, the dude who conquered almost half the world ranked #2
Yes
How does Khan Mina sound?
Decent
@@Chisgule is there anything you don't like about it? Maybe there are better legendary pairings? I'm in a newer kingdom and I'm saving for Khan when he comes out and I have Mina expertised
they hit really hard , if you are not targeted they will suffer.
Liked before watch
woot!
Btw chisgule what are some commanders I should invest in ark of Osiris, and also I want to thank you for making these video ,it really helps me a lot!
Attila is still pulling out 1:2 death ratios in rallies, he is still great bro.
Against Constantine Richard?
@@Chisgule No, Constantine does counter him now, but the broken ratios I saw were against Wu, Ysg.
Ohh. Yeah I mean if people use the wrong combo they will still get wrecked. I find myself surprised that with all this time and exposure to what atilla takeda will do unchecked that no one in the opposing kingdom expertised Constantine.
Does Khan’s rage engine works the same way when he is the secondary?
Awesome
Saladin lpst agains Richard 1 in the Third crusade in real life.
Expert genghis or saladin? Please answer
genghis saladin 5-5-5-1 is enough
@@Thexppkiller Who should prioritize first?
Im for Saladin 🤔
please do best infantry legendary😁
The best is Chisgule
SALADIN TAKEDA is the BEST COMBO
PERIOD
Yes. Saladen. Is. The. Best.
takada you say??
Ranking Saladin no. 1 is good thing you done after a long time lol...
Hays mina is the only legendary I've max huhuhu
Rok is messed up. Or u say it’s legendary 🥵 🔥..... cause if the great commanders got together then the world would be dominated