These videos brighten my day every time one comes out - I know I've said it before, but I want you to know they're appreciated, and encourage you to keep going, they're getting better and better. Thanks!
Hehehe, I am honored and embarrassed that you highlighted my answers to your question :D I get many ideas about music and other arts from reading Borges. I love his concepts, like: the fictional author who strives to be able to recreate the novel Don Quixote, word for word, without plagiarizing; or the library of every single possible book, where each book is unique, but has no value, because there are many, many other books that are essentially the same, differing only by a single character out of all the pages
Those story ("Pierre Menard" and "Library of Babel," plus also "Tlon, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius") had a tremendous effect on me when I read them in late high school. I'll never be done with Borges, like he was never done with the Thousand And One Nights.
@@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC thank you, it is so interesting to share thoughts and connections across the gaps of space and time. I hope that you and yours are safe and recovering from the storm
Just FYI I asked ChatGPT for an actual number of all possible songs it it responded with this... Melody: If we assume 8 notes, and each can be one of 12 notes = 429,981,696 possible melodies. Chords: For a 4-chord progression from 7 chords, that's = 2,401 combinations. Lyrics: If a song has 100 words, and we choose 20, assuming an average of 10 variations per word, that’s = 10^20 (which is 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) Multiplying these together gives a staggering number: 429,981,696×2,401×10^20 ≈1.032×10^30 So, a rough estimate would be around 10^30 possible songs, illustrating just how vast the possibilities are! This is a simplification, of course, but it highlights the incredible potential for creativity in music. 😀
Amazing jam and intro! Whoever had Spectrephon in their Where Is Eugene card please come forward PS all instruments are fiction except the first: the human voice, or all of nature if one wants to expand it that far. All instruments since would be scrutinized against voice, offering it something to converse with, or to improve upon its mimicry of nature, or expand its vocabulary of sound. Synths are natural, as Tomita already pointed out long ago, electricity equally a part of nature as any other function of natural processes. All instruments are equally real. An electric guitar is an electronic instrument, as Bob Moog pointed out long ago. In a way, synths have expanded the vocabulary of sound in new ways, but familiar ones nonetheless. IMO the sampler offers a more subversive nature of fiction, a new vocabulary, an instrument truly without definition.
I put the idea of there being some enumerable set of possible songs firmly in the category of “probably true but practically irrelevant” - by which I don’t mean to say “essentially irrelevant” or “irrelevant but I feel like I need to add a word”, but “irrelevant as a practical matter”. Nobody reading this will live long enough to listen to the full, enumerable set of possible songs, not even all the songs of some given length, much less learn everything you need to know to create all those sounds. Even if all our musical inventions and explorations happen within a bounded garden, it’s a garden we cannot, as a practical matter, map. For us, passing for a moment through this world, it is the forest primeval. Much like the physicist who, when asked in an interview “so if we are indeed living in a simulation, then what-“ and broke over the interviewer to say “It doesn’t matter”, I contend that, practically, this doesn’t matter. Music is (one of) our forest(s) primeval, and the things we meet in there, the things we bring back to share and to show one another, those are the very truest imaginary things of all. Related: what a delightful patch! You know you’re on to something when your audience is making the stank face to unaccompanied multiple phase drift modulation.
I like that, "the truest imaginary things." I also like the idea of the border between finite and infinite, or the many bounded sets of infinities that can be identified...
Thinking about this I wonder if there’s some interesting phase shifting relationships I could explore with more complex wave forms like samples or just a simple note of someone’s voice. Often when I’ve tried to modulate samples it hasn’t had the most inspiring results but I think I need to explore more.
"Phase shifting samples" is more or less the basis of classic chorus, flanger, and phaser effects, first realized via tape and overdubs, later via minor delays and multiple copies of things.
I don't think this is a complete argument here, but I do know that there is a finite number of permutations of a standard 80 minute music CD. It is a finite number of bits, therefore a finite number of permutations. It is a mind-numbingly massive number, but a finite one. And I think we can safely say that its total set of permutations represents the full matrix of possibilities that our ears could experience within that medium. Once again, this isn't any sort of complete statement and doesn't account for live performance and other sensations beyond the audio itself. See also: Library of Babel
🕳️🐇Heavy heavy tantalizing study! Will be re-viewing this one for all the great insight in the intro of this book, plus analyze the great patch of shadows. How deep can we go. Very. We may discover something Elemental about our place while in the modular patching lab. Just like working with the photographer's "exposure triangle" teaches balance and understanding in "real" life (a camera wants a gray world), so can observibg and experimenting in a myriad of phase relationShips teach us through our ear's construction how to use our mind differently; how to perceive shadows in our inescapable(?) 'cave' or 'multiple dimensions' (sphereland-ish) and provide shared insight between what lies within the "real" and the... perceived otherwise. This gets my mill churning ideas. in the end it's all seemingly about the mystery baked into Perception. are we all even in the same ___? if we break "sound" down to it's most basic elements we get air and resonance and everything about moving harmonics in less basic sound becomes about phasing and intermodulations right? What do I know. Just sitting here on break on nightshift watching one of my fav channels that's never just about a single interest. Love this. Keeping this so Real every week must be a chalkenge. We APPRECIATE it,..(Really) we do, and that's no lie (I would wager) 😉
hope you all are safe in Asheville
Thank you! Everybody at Make Noise is safe and accounted for. Unfortunately the community is devastated on many levels.
Absolutely stunning patch. Extremely cool to make something so complex with just a small set of modules and basic waveforms.
Glad you enjoyed!
Hope you and your families are safe! ❤
Thank you! Everybody at Make Noise is safe and accounted for. Unfortunately the community is devastated on many levels.
Thinking of everyone in Asheville. Hope you are safe!
Thank you! Everybody at Make Noise is safe and accounted for. Unfortunately the community is devastated on many levels.
These videos brighten my day every time one comes out - I know I've said it before, but I want you to know they're appreciated, and encourage you to keep going, they're getting better and better. Thanks!
Thank you very much for saying so!!
I really like when you ask questions and talk about what people had to say. Cool format.
Thanks for watching!
Make Noise has been in my thoughts over the past several days.. I hope you are all safe and well ❤
Thank you! Everybody at Make Noise is safe and accounted for. Unfortunately the community is devastated on many levels.
Saving this one under “synth technique” without hesitation. Thanks!
Glad it was useful!
Hehehe, I am honored and embarrassed that you highlighted my answers to your question :D
I get many ideas about music and other arts from reading Borges. I love his concepts, like: the fictional author who strives to be able to recreate the novel Don Quixote, word for word, without plagiarizing; or the library of every single possible book, where each book is unique, but has no value, because there are many, many other books that are essentially the same, differing only by a single character out of all the pages
Those story ("Pierre Menard" and "Library of Babel," plus also "Tlon, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius") had a tremendous effect on me when I read them in late high school. I'll never be done with Borges, like he was never done with the Thousand And One Nights.
@@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC thank you, it is so interesting to share thoughts and connections across the gaps of space and time. I hope that you and yours are safe and recovering from the storm
Love the direction you’re taking this UA-cam channel ❤
Making it fun and interesting in a creative way 🎉
Great visual /graphic explaining of phasing
Thanks! Glad to hear that you are enjoying the channel :)
Thinking of Make Noise family and friends today after seeing the devastation on the news. Hoping that everyone is safe!!
Really cool patch!
Thanks!
you're speaking my language walker
Glad to hear it!
11:09 if you listen the word “Maths” you can hear some very interesting effect created from the mix of the output of the synth and Walker’s voice
It sounds like his voice does a little ratchet!
Love it!
I like to see a Make Noise Barberpole Phaser!
Just FYI I asked ChatGPT for an actual number of all possible songs it it responded with this...
Melody: If we assume 8 notes, and each can be one of 12 notes = 429,981,696 possible melodies.
Chords: For a 4-chord progression from 7 chords, that's = 2,401 combinations.
Lyrics: If a song has 100 words, and we choose 20, assuming an average of 10 variations per word, that’s = 10^20 (which is 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)
Multiplying these together gives a staggering number:
429,981,696×2,401×10^20 ≈1.032×10^30
So, a rough estimate would be around 10^30 possible songs, illustrating just how vast the possibilities are! This is a simplification, of course, but it highlights the incredible potential for creativity in music. 😀
Music can definitely tell a story. Sometimes it's Moby Dick, other times it's Naked Lunch.
I'm thinking about you all there in Asheville. Please keep us posted.
Thank you! Everybody at Make Noise is safe and accounted for. Unfortunately the community is devastated on many levels.
@@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC The devastation is such a shame. I'm so glad you all are OK.
Amazing jam and intro! Whoever had Spectrephon in their Where Is Eugene card please come forward
PS all instruments are fiction except the first: the human voice, or all of nature if one wants to expand it that far. All instruments since would be scrutinized against voice, offering it something to converse with, or to improve upon its mimicry of nature, or expand its vocabulary of sound.
Synths are natural, as Tomita already pointed out long ago, electricity equally a part of nature as any other function of natural processes. All instruments are equally real. An electric guitar is an electronic instrument, as Bob Moog pointed out long ago. In a way, synths have expanded the vocabulary of sound in new ways, but familiar ones nonetheless.
IMO the sampler offers a more subversive nature of fiction, a new vocabulary, an instrument truly without definition.
Tomita made a good point!!
walker,, damn good vid as always. much love. hope your doing well
Thank you!
Careful with that axe, Eugene
I put the idea of there being some enumerable set of possible songs firmly in the category of “probably true but practically irrelevant” - by which I don’t mean to say “essentially irrelevant” or “irrelevant but I feel like I need to add a word”, but “irrelevant as a practical matter”.
Nobody reading this will live long enough to listen to the full, enumerable set of possible songs, not even all the songs of some given length, much less learn everything you need to know to create all those sounds. Even if all our musical inventions and explorations happen within a bounded garden, it’s a garden we cannot, as a practical matter, map. For us, passing for a moment through this world, it is the forest primeval. Much like the physicist who, when asked in an interview “so if we are indeed living in a simulation, then what-“ and broke over the interviewer to say “It doesn’t matter”, I contend that, practically, this doesn’t matter.
Music is (one of) our forest(s) primeval, and the things we meet in there, the things we bring back to share and to show one another, those are the very truest imaginary things of all.
Related: what a delightful patch! You know you’re on to something when your audience is making the stank face to unaccompanied multiple phase drift modulation.
I like that, "the truest imaginary things." I also like the idea of the border between finite and infinite, or the many bounded sets of infinities that can be identified...
Love it
Thinking about this I wonder if there’s some interesting phase shifting relationships I could explore with more complex wave forms like samples or just a simple note of someone’s voice. Often when I’ve tried to modulate samples it hasn’t had the most inspiring results but I think I need to explore more.
"Phase shifting samples" is more or less the basis of classic chorus, flanger, and phaser effects, first realized via tape and overdubs, later via minor delays and multiple copies of things.
cool patch
A Richter Oscillator II can phase in this way by itself :)
Cool!
I don't think this is a complete argument here, but I do know that there is a finite number of permutations of a standard 80 minute music CD. It is a finite number of bits, therefore a finite number of permutations. It is a mind-numbingly massive number, but a finite one. And I think we can safely say that its total set of permutations represents the full matrix of possibilities that our ears could experience within that medium.
Once again, this isn't any sort of complete statement and doesn't account for live performance and other sensations beyond the audio itself.
See also: Library of Babel
Sounds to me like someone cleaning their teeth with an electric toothbrush :)
and ha ha ha, the thumbnail 😂
is that... Eugene?
I know your modular aren’t standalone. I bought a maths module So how do I power it?
You need a Eurorack case and power supply. Check out the "Cases" section of our instruments page: www.makenoisemusic.com/
Asheville
🕳️🐇Heavy heavy tantalizing study! Will be re-viewing this one for all the great insight in the intro of this book, plus analyze the great patch of shadows. How deep can we go. Very. We may discover something Elemental about our place while in the modular patching lab. Just like working with the photographer's "exposure triangle" teaches balance and understanding in "real" life (a camera wants a gray world), so can observibg and experimenting in a myriad of phase relationShips teach us through our ear's construction how to use our mind differently; how to perceive shadows in our inescapable(?) 'cave' or 'multiple dimensions' (sphereland-ish) and provide shared insight between what lies within the "real" and the... perceived otherwise. This gets my mill churning ideas. in the end it's all seemingly about the mystery baked into Perception. are we all even in the same ___? if we break "sound" down to it's most basic elements we get air and resonance and everything about moving harmonics in less basic sound becomes about phasing and intermodulations right? What do I know. Just sitting here on break on nightshift watching one of my fav channels that's never just about a single interest. Love this. Keeping this so Real every week must be a chalkenge. We APPRECIATE it,..(Really) we do, and that's no lie (I would wager) 😉
"The Great Patch Of Shadows" sounds important, might have to note that phrase for future use :)
@@MAKEN0ISEMUSICha, it has a ring eh. definitely enjoying these Dives beyond the music. a bird once told me, everything is vibration
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