Thanks! We have a playlist with the first 5 videos of our refit already up on UA-cam. Many more to follow!! ua-cam.com/play/PLVjtcYwEjn_wzmEeGB2wocsT-nQQAONbp.html&si=M0in5Sq0caFUNfDY
That Clamptite tool, looks great. Have at least two on board, and a couple of loops of wire. Stow one of the tools in the bilge where your engine intake is. And two pair of nose nippers, so each set is a complete kit. But most important is, have you met anyone who's used it for a few years? What I find with the standard SS hose clamps is, they should be properly torqued. It's too easy to overdo it, distort the slots and it's no longer working. (Whose got a torque tool that small?) Also the clamps are usually very expensive in small hardware stores and what size again?? Meanwhile, have spare clamps in the bilges. I've always hated using hose clamps.
I like your thinking! I have two now and will likely get a third as we have two hulls with separate engine rooms and I’d hate to have to go searching just when I need one!
Best Annapolis show seg I’ve seen! All were super useful products and very well presented. Especially want to give kudos for the segment on watermakers, learned a ton from that 5 minutes. Cheers! Best of luck on the refit, I have a suspicion that the 542 is going to be a sought after cult classic in 20 years.
Thank you so much for watching! We tried hard to ensure this Annapolis Boat Show vid wasn’t the same as all the others. We’re glad you got value from it and Rich Borden is the bomb! The 542 is a bit of a unicorn with only 15 left in the world. We’d love it if it become known for the amazing vessel she is!
the wire/clamp tool is awesome but from experience there are so many places on a boat that you can not fit or swing that tool to tighten it properly. it certainl has its place but id imagine i could only use it on about 30-40% of my hose connections.
@ custom built 60ft sloop 25 years old. Limited amount of room in a lot of places. I think it’s a great tool and certainly has its place in every tool box but I can’t see it replacing all hose clamps, definitely not on our boat. I do however have a bag of about 100 assorted stainless steel hose clamps at the ready!!!
We’ve the Zen water maker and use it almost exactly like Rich said. We usually let it run for about an hour everyday at anchor, and a couple of days on passage. Oh and it is quiet enough that it can run under a bunk no issues. We saw you visited Marleon what are your thoughts between them and Trudesign? Also, what did you think of the Ugo messenger bags for laptops?
It was great hanging out with you guys! We think the smart 100 is going to be a good fit for us when we get to that stage of putting things back together. We had a great conversation with the folks at Forespar (Marelon) and learned a lot. Our boat came with Truedesign valves and I haven’t been impressed with them. Multiple valves had had failed and others had loose(failed) threads at the thru-hull and even though the design says it can be serviced, I don’t have confidence in the materials. Marelon though has an excellent reputation for extremely long life - over 20-years and still working like new in some cases and their Pro-Series allows us to configure the design we want to make it most efficient. Wait until you see what I’m doing with the raw water I takes for the aircon! I love my messenger bag! Ugo hit it out of the park on that one!
Great idea to save on hose clamps but is it acceptable by marine surveyors and also corrosion is the biggest problem on a yacht so to corrode one small wire takes a lot less time than a wide hose clamp band.
Saving money on hose clamps is really the smallest part of this. In the grand scheme of things, we'd likely use ~$1k worth of hose clamps and, while that's a lot of money, it's not a lot in the grand scheme of this refit. I don't know what' ABYCs stance is on wire hose clamps but I do know they have requirements around the width of the hose clamp band based on the diameter of the hose. Given that I can make this as wide as I like and a solid band by wrapping multiple times, I think they'd have to have a specific call out against using this type of hose clamp. As for corrosion, we're using 316 SS wire which is the same grade stainless as the best hose clamps and better than most that are 304. I think we'll see how they hold up over time and you can count on us reporting back on the experience as we go!
After a little research, I've found that ABYC H-33 Diesel Fuel Systems, specifically, 33.11.9.2 - Hose clamps shall be reusable. In context, this only applies to diesel fuel systems. All other references to hose clamps indicate specific width, location in relation to the fitting the hose is attached to, or the material being at least 300 series stainless steel. Based on this, wire clamps attached with a Clamptite tool should pass survey for everything except fuel systems and only because they're not reusable.
@ What I find most interesting is that with so much evolution and innovation, people are looking for things that were used 40 to 50 years ago. There are a lot of things that were the best that existed, but they were discarded for other things that could go faster and sell more
@@SailingRoam The only thing on boats that should have already changed is the system voltage from 12v/24v DC to 48v DC. the rest is simply enjoying the boat you have.
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Can't wait to see the refit
Thanks! We have a playlist with the first 5 videos of our refit already up on UA-cam. Many more to follow!!
ua-cam.com/play/PLVjtcYwEjn_wzmEeGB2wocsT-nQQAONbp.html&si=M0in5Sq0caFUNfDY
That Clamptite tool, looks great. Have at least two on board, and a couple of loops of wire. Stow one of the tools in the bilge where your engine intake is. And two pair of nose nippers, so each set is a complete kit. But most important is, have you met anyone who's used it for a few years? What I find with the standard SS hose clamps is, they should be properly torqued. It's too easy to overdo it, distort the slots and it's no longer working. (Whose got a torque tool that small?) Also the clamps are usually very expensive in small hardware stores and what size again??
Meanwhile, have spare clamps in the bilges. I've always hated using hose clamps.
I like your thinking! I have two now and will likely get a third as we have two hulls with separate engine rooms and I’d hate to have to go searching just when I need one!
Best Annapolis show seg I’ve seen! All were super useful products and very well presented.
Especially want to give kudos for the segment on watermakers, learned a ton from that 5 minutes.
Cheers!
Best of luck on the refit, I have a suspicion that the 542 is going to be a sought after cult classic in 20 years.
Thank you so much for watching! We tried hard to ensure this Annapolis Boat Show vid wasn’t the same as all the others. We’re glad you got value from it and Rich Borden is the bomb!
The 542 is a bit of a unicorn with only 15 left in the world. We’d love it if it become known for the amazing vessel she is!
the wire/clamp tool is awesome but from experience there are so many places on a boat that you can not fit or swing that tool to tighten it properly. it certainl has its place but id imagine i could only use it on about 30-40% of my hose connections.
I can see how that could be a problem. Out of curiosity, what kind of boat do you have? We are in a boat with a uniquely huge amount of space.
@ custom built 60ft sloop 25 years old. Limited amount of room in a lot of places. I think it’s a great tool and certainly has its place in every tool box but I can’t see it replacing all hose clamps, definitely not on our boat. I do however have a bag of about 100 assorted stainless steel hose clamps at the ready!!!
@ As we start reinstalling everything during our refit, we’ll certainly show where it works and where it doesn’t.
We’ve the Zen water maker and use it almost exactly like Rich said. We usually let it run for about an hour everyday at anchor, and a couple of days on passage. Oh and it is quiet enough that it can run under a bunk no issues. We saw you visited Marleon what are your thoughts between them and Trudesign? Also, what did you think of the Ugo messenger bags for laptops?
It was great hanging out with you guys!
We think the smart 100 is going to be a good fit for us when we get to that stage of putting things back together.
We had a great conversation with the folks at Forespar (Marelon) and learned a lot. Our boat came with Truedesign valves and I haven’t been impressed with them. Multiple valves had had failed and others had loose(failed) threads at the thru-hull and even though the design says it can be serviced, I don’t have confidence in the materials. Marelon though has an excellent reputation for extremely long life - over 20-years and still working like new in some cases and their Pro-Series allows us to configure the design we want to make it most efficient. Wait until you see what I’m doing with the raw water I takes for the aircon!
I love my messenger bag! Ugo hit it out of the park on that one!
Great idea to save on hose clamps but is it acceptable by marine surveyors and also corrosion is the biggest problem on a yacht so to corrode one small wire takes a lot less time than a wide hose clamp band.
Saving money on hose clamps is really the smallest part of this. In the grand scheme of things, we'd likely use ~$1k worth of hose clamps and, while that's a lot of money, it's not a lot in the grand scheme of this refit. I don't know what' ABYCs stance is on wire hose clamps but I do know they have requirements around the width of the hose clamp band based on the diameter of the hose. Given that I can make this as wide as I like and a solid band by wrapping multiple times, I think they'd have to have a specific call out against using this type of hose clamp. As for corrosion, we're using 316 SS wire which is the same grade stainless as the best hose clamps and better than most that are 304. I think we'll see how they hold up over time and you can count on us reporting back on the experience as we go!
After a little research, I've found that ABYC H-33 Diesel Fuel Systems, specifically, 33.11.9.2 - Hose clamps shall be reusable. In context, this only applies to diesel fuel systems. All other references to hose clamps indicate specific width, location in relation to the fitting the hose is attached to, or the material being at least 300 series stainless steel. Based on this, wire clamps attached with a Clamptite tool should pass survey for everything except fuel systems and only because they're not reusable.
that clamp is old as .....
And it is time for a glow up!
@ What I find most interesting is that with so much evolution and innovation, people are looking for things that were used 40 to 50 years ago.
There are a lot of things that were the best that existed, but they were discarded for other things that could go faster and sell more
You’re so right! It seems like the world of marine “stuff” is so antiquated.
@@SailingRoam The only thing on boats that should have already changed is the system voltage from 12v/24v DC to 48v DC.
the rest is simply enjoying the boat you have.
Haha, and that change is one we’re doing!