Trae Young analysis: The undersized QB (2019)
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Trae Young has been on fire lately and is making noise for Rookie of the Year. But is it merely a hot streak? Has he turned the corner? What's the future look like for this incredible playmaker? This detailed film breakdown & scouting report examine the strengths and weaknesses of the Atlanta Hawks rookie while incorporating analytics & stats to assess his overall impact while laying out areas he can improve.
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3:35 "it often commits him to finish or bust prematurely" ... why you gotta say the bust part lmao
@@BlueGrovyle its youtube dummy get used to it
I came down to the comment section to find this
Brian Williams you must be a really fun guy
knew this was gonna be the top rated comment
@@BlueGrovyle It was obviously an intentional double entendre.
I love how trae jumps with the dunker when he lobs it
I had a bit about the Sammy Sosa hop but couldn't fit it in.
@@ThinkingBasketball Care to explain it briefly in the comments for those who don't know?
Matt Ellis Sosa’s signature “bunny hop” move after hitting a home run before rounding out the bases...
lol yup you can tell he’s having fun out there
I think he does it to throw off the defender in front of him to make him think that he was going up for a layup
He learned that floater and it was all over
I love your vids man you use advanced analytics perfectly, along with showing in game plays
Trae is a very good player and is finally starting to find his game. Very poor defender, though. Mavs are still smart for trading for Luka
How good is Luka on D?
@@RonquixoteDIII Not good but still Trae is much worse. Luka is way bigger, not as slow laterally (or at least more effort) and can actually box out pretty decent. Luka is just bigger than Trae and this gives him way more upside.
C.J Armstrong hawks get top 10 pick protected pick plus there top 6 pick.
Solo Young the Mavs are currently trying their hardest to keep that pick
M B it’s going to be top ten regardless
You are better than ESPN
no
You are the highest standard of NBA youtubers, and its not even close. Keep up the great, informative breakdowns
By far the best analytical channel on UA-cam. Thank you!!
Seeing smaller players thrive recently, such as Kemba, Lou Will, even IT couple yrs ago, I believe as long the skill continues to improve he has an incredible ceiling
His defense or lack of will make him a microwave 6th man off the bench player eventually. Lou Williams type
@@exillens lol, he's a better playermaker than 10 Lou Williams.
Size don’t matter at all
@@chiefasc1500in basketball size definitely matters on defence
Sophia Williams said the same thing about curry Damien and kemba and look where there are with there size
Trae will become a 40% 3 point shooter soon enough Rookies need to make mistakes so they can correct them
Never until he learns that 27ft shots are bad with 21sec on the clock.
@@thegreatkeljb that's a simple fix. shoot those when you're hot, not when you're not.
He is the leading scorer on the Hawks.
He has to shoot. I can see him shooting 35% 3s.
YoungAli nah. He takes too many bad looks. Maybe if he had better shot selection. Same with Steph
@@asmith4549 Its different with Steph, Steph only takes those when he's 4-5 threes hot already. Also Steph's never shot under 41% from three in career(regular season), and like it said in the video he shot 40% from 27+
This channel is so good, its like The Dime Drop but he actually posts. 10/10
Daaaang Ben. This is honestly one of the best analysis I've watched on UA-cam. All of your videos actually! You could bring this kind of stuff on ESPN and people will actually listen to it and be like "Hmmm. this guy makes sense! I'll vote him for president on 2020 (jk)" Anyway, your kind of storytelling and the way you deliver to us fans the stats are impeccable and the kind of level I want to reach someday that I hope to share with my audience as well.
Lastly, you're one of the most underrated UA-camrs in this platform and someone I would like to definitely learn from. This channel is an easy 500k + subs if people would see you on their homepages. If you have time to collaborate, I'm down to learning from you and help you out in future videos. Whatever you need man, I'm there. Anything I can help you with to make that happen, just tell me. Keep up the amazing work and you'll be recognized one day by even the mainstream media out there.
🙏 What's your twitter handle?
Thinking Basketball Here you go, man!
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You can see how excited he gets every time he throws a lob to Collins. Notice how as Collins slams it in, Young does a little hop of his own @ 0:57 1:07 and 1:12
That's pretty cute tbh
We got the Wal-Mart version of Nash/Amare.
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jpowers55 you meant the Nordstrom version?
Been really enjoying your videos. Will take issue with one thing here.
Surely, shooting above league average on a massive volume of very long 3's, is actually a really encouraging sign.
I don't really buy the idea that he's shooting from there because he can't take 2 steps forward without getting his shot blocked . He shoots from there to force the defence to step up to him on every possession.
Also, shooting 35% from 3, in his rookie and college season, at high volume, is great. It'd be great even if he wasn't jacking up half of those shots from 30 feet. But considering that the half of those shots are very deep 3's, I don't see how you could infer that he's not a good shooter from those numbers. He's taking 6 attempts per game as the primary scorer on a bad team. He's not shooting 35% on 1.2 corner shots.
He only needs to improve a tiny amount in terms of accuracy and shot selection and he could be an absolute nightmare.
I'm worried that he'll never be effective going to the basket. I'm worried he'll always be a liability on defence. But the shooting concerns seem overblown at this point.
exactly. its a good breakdown but some of these you tubers flock to the "effenciecy stats" and "analytics" a little too quick
It seems like he went into the video wanting to make the point that Trae's size was an issue, and twisted a lot of supporting evidence to do so. For example, he makes the claim that Trae's inconsistent passing and deep 3s are a result of him being undersized, but does not give any evidence to back those claims up.
@@sethedwards4255 you may easily check up who this youtuber is before you talking nonsence www.patreon.com/ThinkingBasketball
If there is anything consistent its that Trae is going to be a deep threat shooter in the next decade given more time to hone in on his very elite shooting talent. And he is using it to try force defenders to get to him and at the same time create more spacing. Currently John Collins is looking to be the future benefactor as he is already pretty good finishing off lobs, attacking the rim and improving his jumpshot. We'll have to wait and see if Trae gets more star quality teammates to work off his spacing and gravity.
What he's trying to say is that he's only shooting a little above league average from that deep, when it would only take a second to take a single dribble in for a better more efficient shot. They aren't actual concerns for his shooting, but his basketball IQ and taking more intelligent shots
I don’t understand why anyone would call him small the average point guard is 6’2 1/2 and he’s 6’2. He’s literally half an inch shorter than the average point guard. There are plenty of guards shorter than him such as Chris Paul, kemba walker, Kyle Lowry, Lou Williams, and Mike Conley.
Your channel is the best of all time . You give us analysis and breakdowns too . We are very thankful to God for having you . Your work is a gift to the basketball world.
3:35 “finish or bust prematurely”
Yep
Mitchell Robinson next please!!!
YES
Yeah, that dude has become very intriguing...
Daniel I oh pleassssseeee, that would be a great video
Crazy how he’s become so prolific from three point range this year & still developed in his playmaking
"It often commits him to bust prematurely"
~Thinking Basketball
i love this dude. one of my favorite passers of all time already. an artist
That switch in music could have had a smoother transition and the choice of music was a little overbearing. I would stick with the one you had at the start since it makes it easier to listen to your great analysis.
Make a better video, ill wait...
Nash's #1 fan so you cant give constructive criticism?
This is my new favourite analysis channel
very well made video, you got clips to every argument you bring, was very fun to watch !
great video. I missed a lot of his first half season playing very informative, Thank you.
Just over 6ft in socks hahahaha that line is superb
S.O 2 Trae for making all of us small guys proud!
I don't get it. 6'2 is not small. I see if he was 6'0 or isiah thomas size.
@@windbreezetv lol no way. He looks like 6'0 the tallest. He really is a small dude.
windbreeze tv nba players always lie on their height, Trae is 6’1 at best
@@Phemto__ FA you can find a lot of 6'2 guards in the nba if you research it. kyle lowry 6'1 van fleet 6'0. Rondo 6'1. Curry brother is 6'2. That is the same with Stephen Curry he is 6'3 but they call him a small guard, which he is not.
Learned so much from this channel
This videos are great! best analysis I've seen so far
Would love an episode where you go through your statisics in detail! Otherwise amazing content, keep it up!
This is the true basketball analysis that I like, unlike the ESPN analytics that only argues over off-court drama.
I love the music change when u talk about his defense
He has also developed a very accurate floater.
When can a 6'2 guard (or shorter guard) carry a team to NBA championship? 6'2 height is a limitation. Iversion couldn't win a championship.. Steph Curry can't win it without KD and Klay.. Lillard and McCollon continue to struggle in playoffs... the history has proven and shown that shorter players (under 6'6) are generally a facilitating piece to a team. Come in playoff time when teams start to double team your superstar player, you see efficiency and performance goes down the drain. ie. Kyrie Irving (6'3 guard).. Chris Paul (6'0)... subpar playoff performance. Irving is a prime example of an elite shorter guard who excels playing with another superstar (ie. LeBron) when he is not the defense's main focus. Once Irving is the target of double-team defense with the Celtics, you see his performance went downhill against the Bucks. Irving is simply too short to beat multiple big defenders.
Then let's look at superstars who can win championships.. LeBron (6'8), Jordan (6'6), Kobe (6'7), Kawhi (6'7).. the list goes on and on.
Height does matter a great deal. Trae Yong won't win any championship if he is the only superstar on the team. He can fill the stats in the regular season, but don't expect him to be like LeBron, Kawhi, Kobe, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird... etc.
Wey Cool Kyle Lowry just lead his team to a chip and he a role player....u need a team to win....kd klay couldnt win without steph visa versa
E Love Kawhi lead that team to the finals. Lowry couldn’t get there until Kawhi got there
Damn bro the music u used this time is lit🔥🔥 great content as usual
Did it limit A.I.s ceiling? Steve Nash’s ceiling? I.T.’s ceiling? No. They all balled out. Heart > Height
IT has been a liability every year except one... so yes it most certainly did.
@@chasecox629 IT getting injured is what really put a damper on his ceiling. When he was healthy he was balling out.
Doran Mitchell Even his “MVP” year he was a massive liability on defense and they had to scheme to cover him up. Trae doesn’t posses the instincts or effort to make up for his lack of size. He will most certainly be a good to great offense force, but it would be foolish to project him as the best player on a championship team.
once again great stuff mate!
Dude dope video like always!
Can you do a video on whoever you think is having the best individual season this year - whether it’s Giannis or PG13 or Harden or someone else - I’d be curious to see your analysis
Lakers fan. Those are some next level passes, reminds me of Zo, but Trey definitely has his own style. I think the biggest issue with his passes is most of the time, his teammates just weren't paying attention. With the right talent beside him, he can feed buckets .
This really makes you realize how hard is to be consistent like Chris Paul
Great content looking forward to seeing a breakdown of a great on ball defender or players with high defensive motors like Marcus Smart or Patrick Beverley
Trae young shoots 53% at the rim..........
Much taller stronger Lonzo ball shoots 26% at the rim😢
Branden Eskridge but lonzo is so much better at Defense it's ridiculous
Big PeePee Man great he’s a taller Tony Allen
@@bmebuzz8718 lonzo is a great player but his scoring is trash
@@absolutejazz1676 still looking at lakers lonzo or what?
An elite passer and defender. I'll take that on my team any day
Steve Nash also plays No defense but he's an All Star and most likely a HoF. That's Trae's very optimistic ceiling.
"Most likely" lmao yeah a 8 time all star and 2 time MVP of course he is
Nash wouldn’t continuously get taken advantage of on that side of the ball unlike Young
Great analysis as always! Mh new favorite nba channel on UA-cam
Excellent analysis. I'd drop the volume on the second and third tracks you used, or just skip them entirely.
You rarely see point guards come in with the skillset that Trae has... He'll definitely be a top 3 PG in the league eventually.
thats crazy how these guys breakdown a player lol this guy know his stuff
His passes are just nasty. That left handed pass on the pick and roll.
great content as always!
Great video as always, you are undersubbed now, but I am sure it won't take too long before u really take off (you already kinda started taking off).
I'd like a video on Jokic, how good is he now? What is his ceiling? And can he lead team to a championship in the future?
Re Trae's propensity to take really deep 3s: Have you read Tom Haberstroh's recent piece about how deep 3s have been more likely to lead to an offensive rebound? One of the craziest nuggets to me was that since 2012 teams have rebounded over 50% of 3s taken from 34-35 feet. Do you think there's anything to that trend and could it make taking deeper 3s worthwhile even if it hurts your percentage?
Intriguing stat to be sure but I feel that those long rebounds produced by taking deeper threes will ignite more fast break opportunities for opposing team compounded by Trae being the last man back to stop said fast break is not ideal. Those deep threes are truly a boom or bust proposition.
Great analysis. I really like the channel. Could you also do an breakdown of the Hawks overachiving wing, Kevin Huerter?
even now when everything clicking with Trae's game he is allowing the same amount of points that he creates on offence. it is tough truth but it is. John Collins is the real franchise player for Hawks, his off ball play is just genious and this skill is crucial for modern bball.
neverterless Trae will be good NBA role player (DJ Augustin type) when the hype will calm down a little bit. he is decent pro player.
Please make a video of Jrue Holiday next and how you think he'll do now in a more prominent role as the leader and primary scoring option for the Pels next season. Is Lonzo a good fit at PG next to Jrue? I think that will be the best defensive backcourt in the league by far, great in transition too. Shooting will be the problem but that's why they signed JJ also.
Jrue Holiday video asap, please and thank you. Enjoy your channel.
4 years later… he still takes the deepest 3’s of anyone in the league… and shooting about 32% on them 🤣
Wow, this is the best NBA analysis I've ever seen.
Subscribed! Outstanding analysis.
Looking at this video 2 years later when Trae Young is an all star starter and one of the best points Gaurds in the league 😂
Everything he said is true, what are you trying to say?
Can we get a trae young update 🙏
Your gonna blow up my guy 🔥
He shoots from that far because his coaches endorse it. They plan on stretching the defense so they initiate offense from that far back. Hence the really open passing lanes. Especially if you have a threat that’s willing to launch from 30. There are articles on the Hawks’ coaching staff that back this
Can u do a video on Lauri Markkanen plz. BTW love your channel!
he should study a.i.'s defensive tactics. he learned how to make himself useful on defense by thinking a few steps ahead to make up for his height. he was regularly among the league leaders in steals.
Must say I stumbled on this channel & immediately had to sub. Love the content 👍
Way better than ESPN!!!
Real hoopers need this!
His best asset as a finisher is how physical he gets... *Oh My* 😈
Very Helpful 🙌🏾
Good analysis. I think he will tighten up the defense a bit with time. Iverson was the same size and he figured it out. I like this player even with the defensive liability.
He got passing skills and hes tough, he could be similar to Stockton or Kidd if he puts his mind to it and picks up his defense. He should also focus more on setting up plays instead of shooting so many 3s. Hes to focused on making himself better and not focused on making his team better. Not a true point guard mentality.
to answer your question all I say is: KYLE LOWRY is shorter. FRED VANVLEET even shorter, John Stockton was shorter too.
SO NOPE. SIZE is not a problem for him. If he was as short as IT yes, but at 6 foot 2 he is cool.
But those guys are stronger than Trae. Trae isn't only short, he lacks a bit of muscle as well, but that's something I have no doubt he'll gain over time in the gym. Hell you could even mention Eric Bledsoe, that dude is like 6'2'' i think and he's built like a pitbull lmao
@@TheBaconBasket1 True!
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He's a rookie. In 7-8 years, he'll be monstrous
Aaaand Traes in the conference finals this year lol
@Nnamdi Achebe they werent a good team they were fortunate
Aaaand Trae just got held to 16ppg on 43% True Shooting w/ 6 Turnovers per game against the heat in the 1st Rd. Say with me: Too Small. Size will always bother him.
@@blacknetsmed sound dumb. the problem was he is the only shot creator/playmaker on that team. and his two best teammates were out.
@@blacknetsmed size doesnt matter when your one of the best 3 point shooters with unlimited range and the best floater game in the world
@@povertypadresfan4420 size always matters
great stuff man big fan
He really does remind one of Steve Nash but can Steve Nash still excell in a time where Point Guard scoring isn't an afterthought anymore and most times even the first point of attack?
Just looking at Trae now, it’s clear he’s made up a lot of these mistakes. Obviously he’ll never be a great defender, but a lot of superstars aren’t, can be an ok defender given time. His shot selection and rim finishing has improved immensely
Meanwhile luka has the highest lay up percentage in the league
Hit the nail on the head with this one
anytime i play myleague he averages 26 points per game so i think he'll be fine
Faizan Shamsi he’s averaging 28 n 8 on mine😂 yeah trae gonna be a prob in the future
In DMS Like Deez lol
He be averaging 30ppg and never makes either of the allstar teams
@@NonameNoname-lp3hh While winning the mvp
Lol, on almost every single clip of young throwing a lob this vid, he jumps along with the person catching the lob. Lmfao
Love your vids dude! Suggestion for another analysis: Kostas Antetokoumpo
Please do Deandre Ayton! He’s so underrated for a number one pick
The good news is he can get better at all of these issues.he is a kid he will get better. Right now I see him as a Kobe Curry hybrid. Volume shooting point guard.
Trae is fine he’s a hell of a rookie and it only gets better from here, he always has some of the best court vision in the league and when I saw him play his playmaking stood out the most to me it’s so elite not too many player jump out the gun passing like that and it’s been pretty overlooked by him. He’s definitely a better playmaker than curry, curry is really good but he likes to do risky flashy passes were trae just likes to get the job done. things that trae has to do to get better is, work on his handle, offensive consistency, shot selection and stop chasing steph curry but rather worrying about being the best trae young he could be, that could be for better or worse it all depends on how bad trae wants it and I’m not the type of player to put a ceiling on shorter players. Trae isn’t athletic but he has very high offensive iq he just has to keep working on his game there’s been way too many undersized players that dominated their position at one point to bring that up
"Flutters like a plastic bag like in American beauty" had be dead
1:48 "and then his gun is always ready to fire" proceeded by the airball
Hey, I love your analysis on players, by far the best on UA-cam! I’m a Cavs fan, so any chance you could analyze Collin Sexton, Cedi Osman, or Ante Zizic? They are all young players with plenty of potential. Thanks.
He’s working with Kobe this off season!!!!
He’s a damn rookie, this is expected
israel santiago exactly , he’s also faring better than almost all rookies this season
He's undersized and shoots unnecessary deep three's
Do a video on Collin Sexton!
Do Marvin Bagley or Mitchell Robinson next
The deep bombs from 3 are a product of the cultural Steph Curry craze. You hit a few of those in practice as a teen and suddenly everyone is starting to call you the next Steph Curry. Then you prematurely try and make it a staple of your game. If he doesnt become more efficient on those shots next year, I believe we will see him fire up fewer and fewer (that is if he wants to grow as a player).
Besides, I actually see him as more of a less efficient Steve Nash. His court vision is off the charts. He has never shown the Steph Curry-esque efficiency from 3 to be considered a Curry clone.
jquaite wtf?? are you comparing rookie trae to mvp curry? trae is actually doing better than rookie curry at the moment
@@tae12364 notice I said Curry-esque efficiency is the difference. What makes Steph Curry Steph Curry is the fact that he can shoot crazy looking 3s and still shoot 43% from 3 for his career. Even in college Steph was shooting in the 40s percent-wise. Trae has never shot the 3 like that. He shot like 36% in college and is shooting 33% from 3 now. Curry shot 43% from 3 in his rookie season. I dont believe they are comparable
I dreamed about this, for real!
It’s funny to me. A 6’0” point guard isn’t tall enough today but just 15 years ago a great name AI ran the league
I still believe when its all set and done Trae Young will be known as the best player from his draft. Luka is great and will be great. And his stats will reflect more of an all-around game than Trae but I believe Trae Young's offensive impact can be close to if not already like Nash's, Kidd's, and Parker's. And all though he is no where as lethal a Curry from range and deep deep range. Defnders are still drawn to him from that far out because of his wiliness to take it and he has made them. The Hawks generally had these same players last year outside of Kevin Hurter and Trae makes them look different offensively. In fact Collins has gotten better as Trae has gotten better. Luka has a better all-around game, yes and for his career stats will reflect that. But Trae's impact can be beyond the normal numbers. Carmelo Anthony in his prime had better numbers than Steve Nash but who was the better player. Its debatable because of how Nash affected his team in comparison to Anthony. Not saying Luka is Melo or Trae is Nash but it I use it more as a general comparison.
Its a nonsense comparison. Lukas impact on the game is undenianble. There is value to his stats. They are not empty stats and they result in Winning. You are kidding yourself if you think anyone but Luka is the best player in this draft.
That pass @1:55 is amazing
Iverson was a 5’11” slasher who won an MVP and carried his team to the NBA Finals as the lone superstar on the roster.
Trae Young will be fine.
Iverson's balls handling and stature is way different than trae young comparing trae to him you're out of your mind
Ryan Jones
You’re out of your mind if you took my comment as me making a gameplay/style comparison.
The subject of this video was “Does size limit Trae’s ceiling”.
My point was that Alen Iverson made it as a 5’11” slasher who primarily scored his points by attacking the rim.
He also played in an era where big men dominated the league, so he took abuse every night and still found success.
When I said “Trae will be fine”, I was once again speaking on par with this video.
Not sure if you watched it, but the video highlighted Trae‘a skill set.
Trae is 6’1” and he is a sniper. He is also playing in an era where 3pt shooting and ball handling are the most coveted skills in the league.
So not only is Trae “taller” than AI, but he also plays in an era that benefits his style of play.
Hence, Trae will be fine.
Idk where you got this impression on me comparing Trae and Iverson’s style of play, but ok.
Dikembe mutombo...was a great player don't forget that dude
THE RETRO SAVAGE
lol ok 👌🏾
@@dropoff2986 mutombo dropping 30 a game ...grabbing 25 boards ...blocking 8 shots a night
Can you please do Donte DiVincenzo, Sterling Brown or DJ Wilson from the bucks, all solid young talents. Great videos!
I think you should have highlighted that he may think throwing up deep 3 makes more room for his passing off the drive... which it does
He's an undersized rookie that was in the running to be rookie of the year. I have no worries about him improving