Carol Vorderman reacts to Tories being insanely weird
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- We had the pleasure of being joined at JOE Towers by Carol Vorderman for a chat about all things political.
Here Carol reacts to some choice moments of the last few years of Conservative rule, pinpointing the downfall of the government, and what Keir Starmer needs to do in power to win back the trust of the British public.
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For a former teacher, Gullis can barely construct a sentence.
Writing one of the letters of the alphabet might be a challenge.
A throwback from the days when all a teacher needed as a qualification was a cane. I know, all my male teachers back in the 1960s were "Gulis" with a cane and 100 excuses to use it.
Entered Parliament on a Teaching salary. Is now a millionaire. On an MPs salary of £90.000/ per year plus expenses. 😂
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My teachers needed absolutely no excuses to use the belt, most of them were ex army and thought that the way to teach children was to terrorise them into silence, that was the sixties hopefully modern teachers are more intelligent than then
And he’s extremely scary! Even when he speaks reasonably normally he snarls!
Carols laughter is infectious, and clearly gets the absurdity of Tory politics, and their refusal to take running our country seriously.
It's an education problem. They thought they were supposed to be RUINING the country. Easy mistake, yeah?
Every time I hear about or think of the Tory leadership election and the candidates a dark cloud of depression settles over my mood, but Carol's laughter was an instant panacea that kept on improving my mood as it rolled on and on (I wish I could clip it and save it for when I need a lift - along with James May being rendered insensible by laughter and Charlotte Green after she mispronounced Jeremy Hunt's name during a bulletin)
TL:DR I did not know how much I needed to hear Carol have a good laugh.
Yes shill 😂
@@smokerjimand starmers government is soooo much better 😂😂😂😂
@@JohnnyRingo-c5v you're preaching to the perverted, the Tories are only having a leadership contest because the blue faction lost the election to the red faction...or is it the other way? It's so hard to tell the difference
A monthly pod with these two drinking a couple white wine spritzers and catching up on the month's political highlights would go so hard.
Omg YES
The alcohol is not necessary. They do not need to lose their inhibitions.
As an 84 year old male, who has lived through and survived over a dozen Tory sessions of power, which represents almost 70% of my political years of casting my vote in the ballot box, so I would love to ask Carol Vorderman this question, and see her reaction. - What has the Conservative Party ever done for the working people of Britain? Unemployment Benefit was started by the Liberal Party in 1911. Means Test in 1931 by Ramsey McDonald Labour, The NHS started 1946 by Aneorin Bevan Labour, 1997 Winter fuel Allowance started by Labour. The only thing they have done is to keep thje Labour Party out of office for almost 30% of that time. God Bless you Carol.
I'm so relieved my children grew up mostly under a labour government.
The Housing Act 1980
@@adaml2910 Is that Thatcher's 'right to buy'? If so, you're delusional.
@@praguepersona9624 Why am I delusional? That scheme did not help working people get on the ladder?
@@adaml2910 Sure, it helped some people move into the middle class. However, the housing stock wasn't replaced, so all it did was divide society more.
I couldn't go to my grandmother's funeral while Johnson partied. I've never voted Tory, but that particular incident, along with allowing the referendum, firmly cemented me never being a Tory voter
If i recall Keir had a Chinese banquet as well and a Labour MP had Covid and went on a train journey for starters, but that's besides the point. Point is they were all doing it, whilst telling us that we could not. This was not a tory confined problem.
@JasononsaJ OK 5hey said this but th3n still let other people work as usual pretty much except for a few silly changes
@@JasononsaJ You are so correct when you say they are all in it, I would say that the Tories were 99% to blame to Labours 1% a fair judgement.
@@JasononsaJKeir Starmer’s working lunch was investigated twice by the Police. It was perfectly within the rules, as they stood at the time. The MP on the train with a positive Covid test was travelling to Glasgow from Westminster. Her name was Margaret, an SNP MP. She was suspended, sacked, recalled, charged by Police, prosecuted, fined and given community service. 6 punishments in total.
Gullies pretending to be 30P Lee.
Knuckle dragger
The Daily Fail
The Depress
The Torygraph.
don't forget the Murdoch rags:
The Scum
The Slimes (aka the "paper of discord" or "blunderer" )
The Sunday Slimes
Carol has hit the nail on the head Labour should have done exactly what she said and taxed the rich first 👏
Not first, at the same time. The means testing limit is approx £500 a week. I have no issue means testing the winter fuel allowance with that threshhold.
100%
Totally agree with Carol. The optics of a labour govt taking money away from pensioners before saying they'll tax extraordinary wealth is beyond mind boggling
It's not just the optics, it's the type of policy Labour will continue with for the next 5 years. Some of us tried to warn of Starmer's duplicity, it was there for all to see, and even though some took heed, not nearly enough listened and now he has a parliamentary dictatorship and he's already shown he'll use it.
Big business, energy companies, tech giants, et cetera are all friends of Labour now, so ask yourself why. Understandably, Carol was laser-focused on destroying the Tories, unfortunately, she (I'm assuming) didn't realise she'd be unleashing Tories in red ties on the country in their stead.
Meh, yea. But Labour have been awful about the defence. The means test is earning of approx £500 a week, you qualify for the allowance if below this threshold. You automatically receive the payment if you get Pension Credit. This is way above the benefit cap of £284pw for a single adult applying for Universal Credit.
So I agree that the WFA should be removed as a benefit for all pensioners. What must happen is that no pensioners fall through the cracks as is likely to happen for people who have cognitive issues and/or are isolated.
@@gmonkman Well you seem like for being a dedicated Conservative, your party has let you down in a big way.
@@Loneman_OG rhat a joke? labour have fixed triple lock making OAPs £460 a year better off an £900 by end next year plues the 154 for gas prices ..an with triple locked they be beating inflation for 5 years an that is better then anyone else has got
@@robertmaitland8728 I was a Labour member and door knocked during JC's campaign, I left becsuse Keir's parliamentary Labour party is too far to the right, and they no longer need my cash as they are getting enough from lobbyists nowadays.
You see though that we can use our brains and not our feelings to analyse policy detail and form an independent opinion. You could also address what I posted.
Do you think that the means test limit is unreasonable? Do you think that all pensioners should get the winter fuel allowance with no means test? Give me a ficken point of dicussion here.
The only Tory who had ‘new ideas’ was Liz Truss - and she’s batshit crazy.
The Tories are reading too much of The Trump Playbook & really think that it’ll do the trick
I utterly despise the very existence of Tories.
If they never set foot in the Houses of Parliament then I'd be a very happy man. Phkn Tories
It's the same government today, your vote is a illusion of choice.
And what do you think of the current government ??
They probably don't like you much.
@@MixedRaceAndProud1690 Do you mean 'Single Term Starmer? He's useless!
The Tories should never be allowed back in power ever again
@@marythorpe928 I will do my best.
what about democracy?
What Carol says about "I don't want to look up what neo-liberalism means" is actually such an important point. Because people will often go "Ah well of course you don't understand, because you don't know about political theory". And to that I have two major counters. 1) Tell me what it is, if you're so smart so we can debate on a level playing field and 2) Political theory doesn't matter as much as political reality - i.e. how are things affecting people now. I don't care what Keynes or anyone else says about economics. I care about the things I see right in front of me every day that demonstrate that the way we're running things now doesn't work. Carol gets that and does a bloody good job of making other people who don't care about political theory care about the political reality!
I am so fed up with these ex-colonial powers who are glorifying their dirty past! Colonies were made for profit, and because dispatching the poor abroad (to make a new life (that is if they did not die, keeping in mind that convicts were sent and lived in awful conditions, or that the first slaves in North America were whites who had sold themselves for 7 years) while being exploited by the government to colonise) entailes they did not have to address poverty etc at home. There are countries who do not look back on glory, but get their government elected on what they have achieved for people's welfare: Finland etc.
Why are the Tories not looking at why they lost instead of carrying on in their usual way. ?
I'm 61, and I've lived under 14 prime ministers ,man, woman and boy- 9 Conservative (4 in the last 5 years), 5 Labour.
The decline in Tory PMs is painful to contemplate.
From Douglas-Hume and Heath (both public servants who thought they should serve all the people), to Thatcher ("no such thing as society"), Major ( a nice guy, just not up to the job), Cameron (posh boy who had no idea how the other 99.9% lived), May (merely incompetent ), BloJo (dishonest crook, only PM to be found guilty of an offence when in office), Truss (the Lettuce, 'nuff said) and Sunak (so unpopular he presided over the worst defeat in Tory Party history).
To be fair, The Lettuce had already dug the Tories' grave in her 7 weeks as PM, so Sunak can't take all the blame for his role in the 2024 disaster is painful to behold.
Next up-possibly Bad Enoch, who's major enemy is Dr. Who.
Jesus wept☹☹
The issue of immigration is that there are NO LEGAL ROUTES TO ASYLUM IN UK.
"Technically" there are some, i.e the Ukraine scheme which was being wound down under the tories and then there is flawed and beyond appalling implementation of the route for the people in Afghanistan who helped the UK military and allied forces. But yeah.... due to Brexit which needs to be undone asap unless people want universities to collapse completely. International Students had long subsidised universities for domestic/home students.
It doesn't matter how many times these right-wing nutters are told this, they still don't get it.
Reform UK Ltd = Tories without restraints
Carol is spot on as always. Labour need to make those who profited from 14 years of tory corruption and choas, PAY to rebuild what they broke.
Thank you absolutely refreshing to hear these people being held to account , Always Love a bit of Carol lol
Carol is an absolute Queen! I love seeing her on Politicsjoe
The tories are not on planet earth
Tories are in denial.
If the Tories want to return to government they need to govern in the interests of the many, not the very few.
The reality is the Tories will never, ever do this.
This factor alone makes them unfit to govern.
Why isn't Mone in prison? Beggars belief.
It’s not just Mone, there are hundreds of them. Look up Good Law Project.£21,000 million went astray to fraud and corruption. There is an actual Government report on this.
Yes, nick £400,000,000 odd from the British public purse and that's perfectly ok if your one of the establishment. However, if you nick a couple of thousand pounds from the country by fraudulently claiming benefits, it's straight to prison for you if you're poor. It's a funny old world.
The Tories are ultra successful for the people they truly represent. Aneorin Bevin once said “How is it that those with extreme wealth who are also in power, convince those in relative poverty to use their political votes to keep the people with extreme wealth in power”
It's because the general public are politically dumb and very gullible, more so the English than any other, sadly the English as a whole tend to be very hateful compared to the rest of the UK, they are also more right wing as well, and since England gives biggest support to right wing politics, this is a result we see with parties we keep getting put in.
@@alanjessop5572 I would say the answer to that question is dumb people down. Most brits could not describe proportional representation. Don't really know how first passed the post works. Has no idea about Churchill's failings before ww2, that he was originally Liberal before they kicked him out and his role in millions dying during the Bengal Famine. I blame the average brit.
@@smellslikethinice1107 Tony Benn summed it up quite nicely, the wealthy and powerful don't want people (the average Brit) to be educated, healthy and confident. Check out (if you haven't already) Michael Moore interviewing him and you'll find the confirmation to how Brits have been dumbed down.
They keep them down by brainwashing them through the use of the main stream media, which is owned by the aforementioned ultra rich people. Not really rocket science, but it may as well be to the dumb working class people that go out and vote Tory.
Teresa May helped Boris Johnson on his way to no 10 by making him Foreign Secretary. Unbelievable.
No one calls it like carol.the tories are indeed weird.lets hope we never forget.or forgive.
I'm not overly thrilled with Labour so far though - let's hope they redeem themselves in the budget.
I'm relieved.
@@Captain-l2p- I’d be intrigued to your opinion in 6-12 months
@@Captain-l2p This government are going to be worse
Whether she intends it or not- Vorders is comedy gold when it comes to rubbing salt into Tory wounds 😂
What a wonderful person Carol Voderman is long may she continue to bring truth to power ❤
Straight to the point, no stupid banter to start with.
Excellent interview. I would add IMO the Speaker of the House should have a team of fact-checkers, computers poised, for ALL Parliamentary debates PMQs etc, whereby the MOMENT any MP or Minister says something incorrect or false, the Speaker will interrupt them and state the true situation/facts, and demanding an IMMEDIATE apology to the House. If the MP in question refuses to do so, they should be expelled from the House for, say 6 months - AND have their pay docked straight away.
THAT would change the behaviour of MPs at a stroke.
Boris was the best liar we ever had as prime minister!!
The policies that Tory leadership camdidates present shows 2 things:
1. Who Tory Party members are.
2. Hiw stupid they think members of the public are.
My generation (pensioners) are the richest demographic in the UK by a huge margin ! We benefited from cheap housing, final salary pensions, early retirement on full pension from public sector jobs, massive profits from house values, and a triple lock scheme which guaranteed bigger pension rises than workers pay rises. And yet my contemporaries are whinging about losing a £200 energy payment when young parents can't feed or clothe their children.
Carol is fantastic! ✊❤️🖤
I heard Carol on Woman’s Hour this week and now watched this, I have to say she has my vote, Carol for PM! I totally agree and support everything she says and I just have to add this about accountability of MPs. They absolutely NEED performance criteria against which they are measured and if they fail to meet those criteria , they are sacked - just like the rest of us, if I had performed in my job to the same standard as Johnson or the awful Liz Truss I would have been sacked long before any serious damage was done to the company and yet MPs are rewarded for incompetence Johnson & Truss have £115k and a car for life and yet they both were failures - outrageous, it is time the political class were held accountable just like the rest of us. Well done Carol for speaking out, keep it up!
Totally agree. Lets start with Jas Athwal and move to Angela 'party girl' Rayner.
Carol is a bandwagon champagne socialist. PM…behave!😂
Carol for PM seriously??? Absolutely not.....she was the one who tried to convince people to vote labour knowing exactly what their plans was......she may have a math degree but if you saw her other videos she comes across completely thick...... especially when she laughed when she got asked about Jordan Peterson who is far more intelligent than she'll ever be she got absolutely slammed for her comments making her look very silly......I'm glad she got sacked.
There are people i work with who still believe, Boris was treated badly and that he'd done nothing wrong. As for Liz Truss, the same people think she just wasn't allowed to have enough time. Mind you, they love Tommy Robinson. 😮
As for television, Kwasi Kwarteng on Good Morning Britain. He should be locked up.
Yet again you have presented a straight talking, interesting interview.
Oh Carol! You speak the truth always. Brilliant lady! Love you.
I love Carol, she's been a part of my childhood as a TV presenter for How and Countdown as well as many other things. She's a down to earth working girl. I especially loved the touching meetup between her and Supertanskiii at Politics Social's general election party, the way they cuddled each other like long lost sisters. 😊
Carol Vorderman is a national treasure!
Gullis has a major problem in that I think that his mouth is not connected to his brain, and this can be dangerous.
She's bl00dy brilliant, its as simple as that. She's been a trooper this past couple of years and I couldn't respect her more.... G'warn Carol, stick it to em!!!!!!!
Love Carol, we need more like her
The tories SHOULD have a platform but it should be part of a scaffold.
Aussie here, Carol is a national UK treasure, but I can just hear the publishers shouting at her watching this vid in the last few mins... JUST SAY THE NAME OF THE BOOK!!!
Mone says she's sorry but she's not.
Mone is only sorry she got caught.
Being "weird " is a right-wing thing not only in the UK but also America, it's like a prerequisite for the right.
It's wherever they pop up in the world!
North, South, East or West. They use and abuse politics or/and religion to gain power.
Keep it up Carol 👍
Loved watching Johnson squirm. 'Oh, I didn't break that specific rule at that specific time and specific place.'
It's just not the 4d chess move he thinks it is.
And I agree, a media strike would be useful. Sadly, due to all the paid-for client media whores, it'd make things worse. Pity the free press is anything but, really.
I lover Carol! Her bellowing laugh at the Dr Who bit, is sooo the appropriate reaction.
I managed to appeal ( £3000 or so ) late fees once on the basis that I never received the letters from HMRC I had sold the property in question ( on which I had never owed any tax ) and was successful in case anyone finds thenselves in this situation
Shame you had to appeal it....They would soon be chasing anybody who owes them🇬🇧
Loved it Joe gave it a thumbs up. Carols no bad either only one comment Carol made regarding not mentioning neolibralism, This is what the Tories do you will never hear a Tory MP say neo and libralism in the same sentance because they want the voters to think that it is the seven principles of conservatism that motavates them when in reality they support austerity, privatisation, eliminate price control
Labour has one year! To give us pain!
Then people need to feel better off!
Its not about GDP etc
Labour was the only one in the room.
The last leader got more votes. He failed hard.
The Tories and Labour are done if this keeps up.
I love when you have Carol on!
I will buy her book!
2:01 the people Gullis was so disparaging about are the same people that put him in parliament.
I hate the tories caused nothing be misery for 14 year's and now labour cutting the heating allowance
I just ❤ Carol ....you go girl !!!
This tories are not just off this planet, but of the Richter scale ↗️
Oh Carol is such a joy that uproar of laughter at the doctor who thing is so infectious
Well done gal👍👍👍
'Weirdo' shaming seems to be having an affect in the USA.
Something that cost £10 in 2020 most likely costs £30 now in a lot of cases. I'm amazed by Carol Vorderman I never realised she held these views, I just assumed she was another overpayed, rich TV celebrity who only cared about her self . But good on her for speaking out about the corruption and tory government failures etc. Also she helped to get the message thru on tactical voting, i just hope our new Labour government does the right things & makes things better for the majority of people in the UK. It's very early days yet , but i won't be voting for Kier Starmer come the next election if he doesn't deliver. I Just don't want a return of the con party
Probably stating the obvious but Carol is so much more intelligent than any of the D team cabinet ministers we've had in recent years. Case in point: Cameron and Chris Grayling put in the House of Lords.
Sensible tories (Rory Stewart, Tobias Ellwood) saw the writing on the wall and left the tory camp (Ellwood lost his seat but was hardly supportive in recent years).
Carol is a national treasure. Labour would be wise to listen to her on an ongoing basis.
In Australia im sure you know Carol everyone of an age has to vote!
Vorders is a legend! Why can't all of politic Joe's shows start and go on like this one? No pointless dribble, just solid content.
Follow Finland, ban all private education
Bravo Carol and Ava😊
Yes they were, but so are the new front bench of British politics
Lets put this into perspective. I come from an era where we had to budget for our survival, if we did not set aside monies to cover winter fuel, fpe example, we did not have anyone to help ay our bills, and neither did we expect it. Now we have an era of entitled people who expect to get help from Government, there are those who really do not need these handouts, and there are those who need it and there is systems put into place to help these unfortunate ones.
Boris Johnson/ Donald Trump…the worst.
Carrol explains this so easily the
tax reform
Spending reviews
Claw backs from bad contracts
All of these should have been the November budget priory then stating in a spring budget winter fuel allowance would be changed with the guidance laid out in November
That Dr Who guffaw holy hell that was excellent
Caril is right about Kier Starmer that he should apologise for cutting pensioners winter fuel payments.
Mandatory voting - like Australia!
Vorders is class.
As always with "Vord of the Board" she's always correct (I nearly wrote "right"), and her saying "Bad Enoch" is a pun I've been using for ages, and it's apt in every direction, the very last being her heritage and skin colour. If I could time travel her back to Powell's time as a Tory MP (people seem to forget this) I wonder what he'd have made of her and whether he'd actually accept and recognise her in part of his "rivers of blood" vile campaigning..
"What planet are they on?" Still ours unfortunately.
labour should get Carol in as a minister, minister of accountability
Her maths is better than Rachel’s
There is no way that she would be invited into a state controlled organisation.
I thought Boris might be a Minister for Outer Space but perhaps Kemi Badenoch should be the one.
Ahh Carol, what a little legend ☺️
I'm crying with laughter watching this
The Tories are still saying that they left the economy in fine fettle. There is nothing working in the UK. Austerity and Brexit are responsible for the decline of the UK, particularly Austerity. Brexit, Johnson, Truss and Sunak made matters worse. The problem is that the poor have suffered more while the rich have prospered. Infrastructure has been ignored for 14 years. As a consequence, nothing is working.
I agree with every word Carol said during this interview.
The tories have had a long, long history of this behaviour of corruption, because legally, corruption is Not illegal in the prosecution sense.
Johnson was exceptionally bad, but all of them are truly wicked in the own way...Churchill and thatcher being up there in the Premier division, for being exceptionally cruel ...the two heroes of tories.
I'm amazed at the British public, for their complete ignorance...with not an nodding acquaintance with the Bengal Famine (Churchill), or churchills refusal of women's rights, during the Suffragettes movement. Like I say wicked.
Carol's bang on, the Tories definitely are a nightmare brain cell rotation.
Good to have some good people about making a difference. At 82 I hope Carol will always be there to campaign & cheer up the workers trying to get a half way decent deal for us all.
Excellent 😊
parliamentary privilege means MPs can knowingly lie in parliament, also MPs are not permitted to point out a known lie ... go figure
The first bloke thought he was Donald Trump! Politics of hate!
She is cleaver lady! At the end she explained everything.
Only for the people who know what terms means lol
Well done for getting it out there.
whenever i remember that the tories lost by their worst margin in history, I grin
Liz Truss…good for a laugh…not long enough to hurt.
Well said Carol! Top marks.
Tories: Never, ever again.
This is a very interesting conversation, more of these please
Thank you Carol for your clarity and insight. Excellent.
This interviewer was more upset about palestinian protest placards than about right wing riots.
How does Vorders get on with Labour killing the elderly then. Let's all vote Labour in huh Carol.
Ava, if it meant could have both you and Vorderman lead PoliticsJoe I would do unspeakably evil things. However, I must make do with these little snippets of delight.
And before tinpot Dugmore gets jealous, I love you too, buddy.